From MAILER-DAEMON Sun Jan 01 06:18:15 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1RhJQd-0000E0-O8 for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Jan 2012 06:18:15 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:45484) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RhJQb-0000DQ-SA for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Jan 2012 06:18:14 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RhJQa-0000Eu-5s for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Jan 2012 06:18:13 -0500 Received: from mail-iy0-f169.google.com ([209.85.210.169]:37145) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RhJQa-0000Eo-2t for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Jan 2012 06:18:12 -0500 Received: by iacb35 with SMTP id b35so30414230iac.0 for ; Sun, 01 Jan 2012 03:18:10 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=XuGlM/nAUpyODFUDvzAbZbVdB817HpF+bPqlZhs2aI4=; b=pzHYYNV58z9kJvKOP8xATl7m7Y/8CRn5RuqzBXQR8wGvQLWxMukXMXolmtx0rFeIRM 62sltSb3/2OszrnFguYbjQlhzjmhUjb8EIhRrgBhGkCZLBibCp8W1SgC4Hu+sEwKoVaX lPfsQ6sAGpzk0Vy35U1IMMJNnCUTy9xBBb0o8= Received: by 10.50.207.72 with SMTP id lu8mr54122654igc.0.1325416689383; Sun, 01 Jan 2012 03:18:09 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: faurecalixte@gmail.com Received: by 10.43.51.196 with HTTP; Sun, 1 Jan 2012 03:17:48 -0800 (PST) From: Calixte FAURE Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2012 12:17:48 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 9FG3GVSRgWUoNZkVEAdgiXJvkyU Message-ID: Subject: Cresc. poco a poco To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=14dae93407bbf339ad04b5759e96 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 209.85.210.169 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Jan 2012 11:18:14 -0000 --14dae93407bbf339ad04b5759e96 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bonjour, En utilisant la commande \crpoco comme d=C3=A9finit dans la doc : http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.14/Documentation/notation/writing-text.fr.html#t= ext-spanners Je souhaiterais que le texte *cresc. poco a poco* s=E2=80=99=C3=A9tale du d= =C3=A9but =C3=A0 la fin du crescendo. Est-ce possible ? Merci beaucoup. Meilleurs v=C5=93ux ! Calixte. --14dae93407bbf339ad04b5759e96 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bonjour,

En utilisant la commande \crpoco comme d=C3=A9finit dans la= doc :
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.14/Documentat= ion/notation/writing-text.fr.html#text-spanners

Je souhaiterais que le texte cresc. poco a poco s=E2=80=99=C3=A9= tale du d=C3=A9but =C3=A0 la fin du crescendo.
Est-ce possible ?

= Merci beaucoup.
Meilleurs v=C5=93ux !
Calixte.
--14dae93407bbf339ad04b5759e96-- From MAILER-DAEMON Sun Jan 01 08:37:02 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1RhLaw-0003AX-B8 for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Jan 2012 08:37:02 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:41550) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RhLat-0003AQ-Ng for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Jan 2012 08:37:00 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RhLas-0002F2-LW for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Jan 2012 08:36:59 -0500 Received: from sam.nabble.com ([216.139.236.26]:58609) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RhLas-0002Ed-Hv for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Jan 2012 08:36:58 -0500 Received: from jim.nabble.com ([192.168.236.80]) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RhLal-0000K2-Sm for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Jan 2012 05:36:51 -0800 Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2012 05:36:51 -0800 (PST) From: bameylan To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Message-ID: <1325425011851-7141976.post@n2.nabble.com> Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Bonne_ann=C3=A9e_et_est-ce_un_bogue,_?= =?UTF-8?Q?des_Ped_qui_embrassent_la_port=C3=A9e=3F?= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 216.139.236.26 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Jan 2012 13:37:00 -0000 Tout d'abord une tr=C3=A8s belle ann=C3=A9e =C3=A0 tous, et en particulier = =C3=A0 tous ceux qui font que Mam'zelle Lily est tous les jours un peu mieux comprise... c'est important pour ses angoisses existentielles...=20 J'ai install=C3=A9 la derni=C3=A8re mouture de Frescobaldi, la 2.0, et me v= oil=C3=A0 avec mon premier probl=C3=A8me: j'utilise des indications de p=C3=A9dale pour qu= elques pi=C3=A8ces pour piano; j'ai cr=C3=A9=C3=A9 un contexte \new Dynamic pour p= ouvoir les positionner o=C3=B9 je veux et afin de ne pas les faire se cogner avec les indications de doigt=C3=A9s de la main gauche (plac=C3=A9s eux aussi au des= sous de la port=C3=A9e), j'ai abaiss=C3=A9 ce contexte: \override SustainPedal #'extra= -offset =3D #'(0 . 4). Tout va comme sur des roulettes... jusqu'au dernier syst=C3=A8me= de la page, les indications de p=C3=A9dales se retrouvent en plein dans la port= =C3=A9e de la main gauche. Pourtant je n'ai rien chang=C3=A9 dans cette port=C3=A9e et to= ut va bien dans les pr=C3=A9c=C3=A9dentes. Un bogue? Bernard http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabble.com/file/n7141976/tarantelle= .ly tarantelle.ly=20 -- View this message in context: http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabbl= e.com/Bonne-annee-et-est-ce-un-bogue-des-Ped-qui-embrassent-la-portee-tp714= 1976p7141976.html Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From MAILER-DAEMON Sun Jan 01 10:10:05 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1RhN2z-0005oW-OP for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Jan 2012 10:10:05 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:52234) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RhN2x-0005mk-6n for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Jan 2012 10:10:04 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RhN2v-0005Km-Ka for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Jan 2012 10:10:03 -0500 Received: from mail-pz0-f41.google.com ([209.85.210.41]:60597) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RhN2v-0005KN-DW for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Jan 2012 10:10:01 -0500 Received: by dakl33 with SMTP id l33so12023008dak.0 for ; Sun, 01 Jan 2012 07:10:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=wcC5Q3r5z5E1fkwtPkAkHvd+fp5GAFttlFlxlEAYw5s=; b=Vmijcr+MLNwCn4oq4hUT3fKLakSyeGslr8Kjl0S+7JmIeEGsVOIPdZX/7hGH8rYWNq /U37t+WdZxQnA8WiZDCyqh5+ja2t9gRFiDLXOptM6O1tXkYg1MReo/S8lsSK3IEm95WB 3bxBmMNxXQJ+FMcvONUamBhLzpku8cCKa23Vk= Received: by 10.68.189.198 with SMTP id gk6mr54620010pbc.34.1325430600405; Sun, 01 Jan 2012 07:10:00 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.58.21 with HTTP; Sun, 1 Jan 2012 07:09:39 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1325425011851-7141976.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1325425011851-7141976.post@n2.nabble.com> From: Xavier Scheuer Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2012 16:09:39 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re=3A_Bonne_ann=C3=A9e_et_est=2Dce_un_bogue=2C_des_Ped_qui_emb?= =?UTF-8?Q?rassent_la_port=C3=A9e=3F?= To: bameylan Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 209.85.210.41 Cc: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Jan 2012 15:10:04 -0000 2012/1/1 bameylan : > Tout d'abord une tr=C3=A8s belle ann=C3=A9e =C3=A0 tous, et en particulie= r =C3=A0 tous ceux qui > font que Mam'zelle Lily est tous les jours un peu mieux comprise... c'est > important pour ses angoisses existentielles... > > J'ai install=C3=A9 la derni=C3=A8re mouture de Frescobaldi, la 2.0, et me= voil=C3=A0 avec > mon premier probl=C3=A8me: j'utilise des indications de p=C3=A9dale pour = quelques > pi=C3=A8ces pour piano; j'ai cr=C3=A9=C3=A9 un contexte \new Dynamic pour= pouvoir les > positionner o=C3=B9 je veux et afin de ne pas les faire se cogner avec le= s > indications de doigt=C3=A9s de la main gauche (plac=C3=A9s eux aussi au d= essous de la > port=C3=A9e), j'ai abaiss=C3=A9 ce contexte: \override SustainPedal #'ext= ra-offset =3D > #'(0 . 4). Tout va comme sur des roulettes... jusqu'au dernier syst=C3=A8= me de la > page, les indications de p=C3=A9dales se retrouvent en plein dans la port= =C3=A9e de la > main gauche. Pourtant je n'ai rien chang=C3=A9 dans cette port=C3=A9e et = tout va bien > dans les pr=C3=A9c=C3=A9dentes. Un bogue? En fait c'est le comportement actuel qui est un bogue ! Si tu regardes attentivement tu observeras que tes indications de p=C3=A9dale se trouvent centr=C3=A9es entre la derni=C3=A8re port=C3=A9e du= syst=C3=A8me courant et la premi=C3=A8re port=C3=A9e du syst=C3=A8me suivant (si on supprime ton \override SustainPedal #''extra-offset qui les remonte !). Ce bug est d=C3=A9j=C3=A0 corrig=C3=A9 pour la version 2.15.24 qui va sorti= r. http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=3D2102 Pour modifier l'espacement entre le Dynamics des indications de p=C3=A9dale= s et la port=C3=A9e rattach=C3=A9 (i.e. celle juste au-dessus), je te conseil= le d'oublier cette mauvaise id=C3=A9e de jouer sur SustainPedal #'extra-offse= t et d'utilis=C3=A9e les variables qui sont faites pour cela. %%%% \new Dynamics \with { % la port=C3=A9e rattach=C3=A9e se trouve au-dessus \override VerticalAxisGroup #'staff-affinity =3D #UP % augmenter l'espacement entre les indications de p=C3=A9dale et la % port=C3=A9e rattach=C3=A9e (related) \override VerticalAxisGroup #'nonstaff-relatedstaff-spacing #'padding = =3D #5 } { % indications de p=C3=A9dale } %%%% Cf. NR 4.4.1 Espacement vertical au sein d=E2=80=99un syst=C3=A8me > Espace= ment des lignes rattach=C3=A9es =C3=A0 des port=C3=A9es http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/notation/flexible-vertical-spac= ing-within-systems#spacing-of-non_002dstaff-lines Et bonne ann=C3=A9e 2012 =C3=A0 tous ! Cordialement, Xavier --=20 Xavier Scheuer From MAILER-DAEMON Sun Jan 01 13:20:25 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1RhQ1B-0000kS-Fq for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Jan 2012 13:20:25 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:56382) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RhQ19-0000kM-6v for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Jan 2012 13:20:24 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RhQ17-0002kT-6p for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Jan 2012 13:20:23 -0500 Received: from smtp05.smtpout.orange.fr ([80.12.242.127]:22821 helo=smtp.smtpout.orange.fr) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RhQ16-0002kJ-M6 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Jan 2012 13:20:21 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([81.49.60.245]) by mwinf5d40 with ME id GJLH1i00E5HTyXl03JLJc2; Sun, 01 Jan 2012 19:20:19 +0100 Message-ID: <4F00A3E1.30703@free.fr> Date: Sun, 01 Jan 2012 19:20:17 +0100 From: Jean Goujon User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.24) Gecko/20111110 Mageia/3.1.16-1.mga1 (1) Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.16 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Liste Lilypond-fr Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?d=E9caler_des_paroles_=28pas_des_sons!=29?= Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------060803070300010308040405" X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.12.242.127 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Jan 2012 18:20:24 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------060803070300010308040405 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Bonjour, deux couplets au début, un refrain puis de nouveau les deux couplets et je ne retrouve plus comment avoir une partie au milieu avec qu'une ligne de paroles, dans la doc 2.1.1 sur la gestion des paroles, si je rajoute 4 après les sillabes, pas de modif. et les s4 aussi c'est ce passage dans le fichier joint généré avec Frescobaldi. ------------------------- sopranoVerseTwo = \lyricmode { \set stanza = "2." % Ajouter ici des paroles. Dans la dou -- ceur __ De nos ten -- dres ca -- res -- ses Cha -- que sai -- son semble un au -- tre prin -- temps Et dan mon coeur __ C'est ta seu -- le ten -- dres -- se Qui fait la pluie Et sur -- tout le beau temps __ % aller à la mesure 44 \set stanza = "2." Dès l'ins -- tant que je suis dans tes bras Le bon -- heur est } ----------------------- merci pour les conseils. -- Jean GOUJON, http://aperturaXVI.org (Ensemble Vocal& Instrumental) - www.abul.org (Linux& logiciels libres) - Téléchargez et essayez linux! http://wiki.mandriva.com/fr/Accueil ou http://www.mageia.org/fr/ --------------060803070300010308040405 Content-Type: text/x-lilypond; name="ferrari-rumbadelapluie.ly" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="ferrari-rumbadelapluie.ly" \version "2.15.23" \header { title = "Rumba de la pluie" composer = "Louis FERRARI" arranger = "Léo Laurent" poet = "André Hornez" } tempoMark = { \once \override Score.RehearsalMark #'self-alignment-X = #LEFT \once \override Score.RehearsalMark #'break-align-symbols = #'(time-signature key-signature) \once \override Staff.TimeSignature #'break-align-anchor-alignment = #LEFT \mark \markup \bold "Rumba" } global = { \tempoMark \key c \minor \time 2/2 } soprano = \relative c'' { \global % En avant la musique ! \repeat volta 2 { \times 2/3 { g4 c d } ees2 ~ \times 2/3 { ees4 d cis } \times 2/3 { d ees d } c2 g4 r R1 c4 r b d f r b,2 c4 r ees2 d4 a b r \times 2/3 { g4 c d } ees2 ~ \times 2/3 { ees4 d cis } \times 2/3 { d f d } c!2 g4 r R1 \times 2/3 { fis4 g gis } a2 \times 2/3 { r4 a b } \times 2/3 { c b c } d1 ~ d4 r r2 \bar "||" \key c \major R1*3^\markup "Refrain" r2 \times 2/3 { r4 e e } \times 2/3 { e d d } \times 2/3 { d c c } \times 2/3 { c b b } \times 2/3 { b a g } f1 ~ f4 r r2 R1*3 r2 \times 2/3 { r4 d' d } \times 2/3 { d c c } \times 2/3 { c b b } \times 2/3 { b a a } \times 2/3 { a g f } e1 ~ e4 r r2 R1*3 r2 fis8 g a b! a2 gis4 a c2 b4 a \times 2/3 { g4 a ais } b2 ~ b4 r r2 R1 r2 fis8 g a g e'1 e2 \times 2/3 { r4 g g } \times 2/3 { g f f } \times 2/3 { f e e } \times 2/3 { e r d } \times 2/3 { d c b } \bar "||" } \alternative { { c4 r c2 c b } { c1 r4 d \times 2/3 { d c b } } } c1 r4 d \times 2/3 { d c d } g1 ~ g \fermata \bar "|." } alto = \relative c' { \global % En avant la musique ! } tenor = \relative c' { \global % En avant la musique ! } bass = \relative c { \global % En avant la musique ! } sopranoVerseOne = \lyricmode { \set stanza = "1." % Ajouter ici des paroles. Le ciel est gris __ Et les ar -- bres fris -- son -- nent Viens près de moi tan -- dis que meurt le jour Le vent gé -- mit, __ Voi -- ci dé -- jà l'au -- tom -- ne En -- la -- ce -- moi n'é -- cou -- tons que l'a -- mour __ Mais le ciel sem -- ble rire aux é -- clats Quand je suis dans tes bras __ Mais je rêve au par -- fum des li -- las Quand je suis dans tes bras __ Car c'est dans tes yeux Que je vois les nu -- an -- ces du ciel __ Pour -- tant que m'im -- por -- te Mon a -- mour quand je suis dans tes bras Le bon -- heur es là, Il est là. là. Tout chan -- te la joie Au creux de tes bras. __ } altoVerseOne = \lyricmode { \set stanza = "1." % Ajouter ici des paroles. } tenorVerseOne = \lyricmode { \set stanza = "1." % Ajouter ici des paroles. } bassVerseOne = \lyricmode { \set stanza = "1." % Ajouter ici des paroles. } sopranoVerseTwo = \lyricmode { \set stanza = "2." % Ajouter ici des paroles. Dans la dou -- ceur __ De nos ten -- dres ca -- res -- ses Cha -- que sai -- son semble un au -- tre prin -- temps Et dan mon coeur __ C'est ta seu -- le ten -- dres -- se Qui fait la pluie Et sur -- tout le beau temps __ % aller à la mesure 44 S2 \set stanza = "2." Dès l'ins -- tant que je suis dans tes bras Le bon -- heur est } altoVerseTwo = \lyricmode { \set stanza = "2." % Ajouter ici des paroles. } tenorVerseTwo = \lyricmode { \set stanza = "2." % Ajouter ici des paroles. } bassVerseTwo = \lyricmode { \set stanza = "2." % Ajouter ici des paroles. } pianoReduction = \new PianoStaff \with { fontSize = #-1 \override StaffSymbol #'staff-space = #(magstep -1) } << \new Staff \with { \consists "Mark_engraver" \consists "Metronome_mark_engraver" \remove "Staff_performer" } { #(set-accidental-style 'piano) << \soprano \\ \alto >> } \new Staff \with { \remove "Staff_performer" } { \clef bass #(set-accidental-style 'piano) << \tenor \\ \bass >> } >> rehearsalMidi = #(define-music-function (parser location name midiInstrument lyrics) (string? string? ly:music?) #{ \unfoldRepeats << \new Staff = "soprano" \new Voice = "soprano" { s1*0\f \soprano } \new Staff = "alto" \new Voice = "alto" { s1*0\f \alto } \new Staff = "tenor" \new Voice = "tenor" { s1*0\f \tenor } \new Staff = "bass" \new Voice = "bass" { s1*0\f \bass } \context Staff = $name { \set Score.midiMinimumVolume = #0.5 \set Score.midiMaximumVolume = #0.5 \set Score.tempoWholesPerMinute = #(ly:make-moment 100 4) \set Staff.midiMinimumVolume = #0.8 \set Staff.midiMaximumVolume = #1.0 \set Staff.midiInstrument = $midiInstrument } \new Lyrics \with { alignBelowContext = $name } \lyricsto $name $lyrics >> #}) \book { \score { << \new ChoirStaff << \new Staff \with { midiInstrument = "choir aahs" instrumentName = "Soprano" % shortInstrumentName = "Sopr." \consists "Ambitus_engraver" } { \soprano } \addlyrics { \sopranoVerseOne } \addlyrics { \sopranoVerseTwo } \new Staff \with { midiInstrument = "choir aahs" instrumentName = "Alto" shortInstrumentName = "Alt." \consists "Ambitus_engraver" } { \alto } \addlyrics { \altoVerseOne } \addlyrics { \altoVerseTwo } \new Staff \with { midiInstrument = "choir aahs" instrumentName = "Ténor" shortInstrumentName = "Tén." \consists "Ambitus_engraver" } { \clef "treble_8" \tenor } \addlyrics { \tenorVerseOne } \addlyrics { \tenorVerseTwo } \new Staff \with { midiInstrument = "choir aahs" instrumentName = "Basse" shortInstrumentName = "Bas." \consists "Ambitus_engraver" } { \clef bass \bass } \addlyrics { \bassVerseOne } \addlyrics { \bassVerseTwo } >> % \pianoReduction >> \layout { } \midi { \context { \Score tempoWholesPerMinute = #(ly:make-moment 100 4) } } } } % Fichiers MIDI pour répétitions : #(define output-suffix "soprano") \book { \score { \rehearsalMidi "soprano" "soprano sax" \sopranoVerseOne \midi { } } } #(define output-suffix "alto") \book { \score { \rehearsalMidi "alto" "soprano sax" \altoVerseOne \midi { } } } #(define output-suffix "tenor") \book { \score { \rehearsalMidi "tenor" "tenor sax" \tenorVerseOne \midi { } } } #(define output-suffix "bass") \book { \score { \rehearsalMidi "bass" "tenor sax" \bassVerseOne \midi { } } } --------------060803070300010308040405-- From MAILER-DAEMON Mon Jan 02 05:54:51 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1RhfXX-000455-51 for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2012 05:54:51 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:39166) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RhfXU-00044y-8l for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2012 05:54:49 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RhfXS-00028V-Tf for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2012 05:54:48 -0500 Received: from mirapoint7.brutele.be ([212.68.199.151]:55327) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RhfXS-00028P-Nb for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2012 05:54:46 -0500 Received: from [192.168.0.100] (host-85-27-79-9.brutele.be [85.27.79.9]) by mirapoint7.brutele.be (MOS 4.2.3-GA) with ESMTP id AYR98320; Mon, 2 Jan 2012 11:54:42 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?G=E9rard_Degrez?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Frescobaldi/LilyPondTool Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 11:54:42 +0100 Message-Id: <6FEA87CF-FE41-4DD9-B7CF-1B7A40D2BA60@yahoo.fr> To: Lilypond Liste Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-Junkmail-Status: score=10/50, host=mirapoint7.brutele.be X-Junkmail-Signature-Raw: score=unknown, refid=str=0001.0A0B020A.4F018CF5.01A7,ss=1,fgs=0, ip=0.0.0.0, so=2010-12-23 16:51:53, dmn=2009-09-10 00:05:08, mode=single engine X-Junkmail-IWF: false X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. 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Mon, 02 Jan 2012 06:22:29 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:32836) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RhfyE-0007Dk-Qw for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2012 06:22:27 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RhfyD-0005yj-LQ for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2012 06:22:26 -0500 Received: from sam.nabble.com ([216.139.236.26]:53592) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RhfyD-0005yV-Ho for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2012 06:22:25 -0500 Received: from jim.nabble.com ([192.168.236.80]) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RhfyB-0007WG-Dq for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2012 03:22:23 -0800 Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 03:22:23 -0800 (PST) From: flup To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Message-ID: <1325503343414-7143551.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <6FEA87CF-FE41-4DD9-B7CF-1B7A40D2BA60@yahoo.fr> References: <6FEA87CF-FE41-4DD9-B7CF-1B7A40D2BA60@yahoo.fr> Subject: Re: Frescobaldi/LilyPondTool MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 216.139.236.26 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2012 11:22:28 -0000 Bonjour, Ce qui suit n'est que mon avis subjectif, mais c'est mieux que pas d'avis d= u tout :) JEdit-LilyPondTool :=20 + multi-plateformes (gr=C3=A2ce =C3=A0 Java) + relative simplicit=C3=A9 de mise en =C5=93uvre (gr=C3=A2ce entre autres a= ux tutoriels de Valentin Villenave) + utilisation pour d'autres langages =C3=A9galement (pour ceux qui n'utilis= ent pas que LilyPond comme code), vu que JEdit en g=C3=A8re une quantit=C3=A9 impressionnante + aide =C3=A0 la modification des liaisons de phras=C3=A9 =20 - interface assez rebutante quand on a l'habitude d'interfaces adapt=C3=A9e= s =C3=A0 sa plateforme (sur ce point, certaines plateformes sont "plus =C3=A9gales que d'autres" :p ) - fonctions d'aides =C3=A0 l'=C3=A9dition moins riches que dans Frescobaldi - r=C3=A9activit=C3=A9 m=C3=A9diocre (en tout cas sur Mac) Frescobaldi (je parle ici de la version 2.0, la 1.2 =C3=A9tant r=C3=A9serv= =C3=A9e =C3=A0 Linux) : + interface plus en phase avec chaque plateforme (gr=C3=A2ce =C3=A0 Qt4) et= beaucoup plus r=C3=A9active (en tout cas sur Mac) + fonctions d'=C3=A9ditions tr=C3=A8s puissantes (hauteurs relatives <-> ab= solues, transpositions, application d'une s=C3=A9quence rythmique =C3=A0 un passage= , copier-coller d'un rythme sur des s=C3=A9quences de notes diff=C3=A9rentes = etc, r=C3=A9pertoire de fragments de code et j'en passe). + applications d'articulations ou phras=C3=A9s mieux g=C3=A9r=C3=A9es que d= ans JEdit-LilyPondTool - installation complexe pour l'instant (il faut installer toutes les d=C3=A9pendances), mais =C3=A0 terme il y aura des installateurs d=C3=A9di= =C3=A9s pour Windows et Mac OS De mani=C3=A8re g=C3=A9n=C3=A9rale, Frescobaldi est mis =C3=A0 jour plus so= uvent que LilyPondTool; LilyPondTool =C3=A9tant un add-on de JEdit, il souffre parfoi= s des bugs de JEdit. N'h=C3=A9sitez pas =C3=A0 poser des questions plus pr=C3=A9cises, ce ne son= t l=C3=A0 que les points auxquels j'ai pens=C3=A9 de prime abord. Philippe -- View this message in context: http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabbl= e.com/Frescobaldi-LilyPondTool-tp7143495p7143551.html Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From MAILER-DAEMON Mon Jan 02 06:36:10 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1RhgBW-0000HC-5y for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2012 06:36:10 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:57763) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RhgBT-0000GG-6p for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2012 06:36:08 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RhgBR-0007t3-S6 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2012 06:36:07 -0500 Received: from sam.nabble.com ([216.139.236.26]:54758) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RhgBR-0007so-Ly for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2012 06:36:05 -0500 Received: from jim.nabble.com ([192.168.236.80]) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RhgBQ-0000Xg-Rk for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2012 03:36:04 -0800 Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 03:36:04 -0800 (PST) From: flup To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Message-ID: <1325504164845-7143577.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: References: <4EFF56D4.9030407@orange.fr> Subject: Re: Basse continue MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 216.139.236.26 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2012 11:36:08 -0000 Je confirme : ce 6 "contrebarr=C3=A9" est =C3=A9quivalent au #6, x6, +6, 6#= ou 6x, bref la "petite sixte". On trouve parfois la notation 643 (les uns au-dessus des autres, avec le 6 parfois contrebarr=C3=A9 ou #). C'est un accord plac=C3= =A9 sur le IIe degr=C3=A9, d'o=C3=B9 son nom de sixte sensible (si la fondamentale est= sur le IIe, la sixte constitue logiquement la sensible). Attention cependant : hors du IIe degr=C3=A9, les m=C3=AAmes notations peuv= ent indiquer simplement un accord dont la sixte est alt=C3=A9r=C3=A9e (sans qua= rte, du coup) et non une "petite sixte". Une r=C3=A9f=C3=A9rence en la mati=C3=A8re (fort on=C3=A9reuse, malheureuse= ment) est la "M=C3=A9thode pour apprendre la basse continue =C3=A0 l'usage des amateurs" de Bourmayan = et Frisch. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabbl= e.com/Basse-continue-tp7141015p7143577.html Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From MAILER-DAEMON Mon Jan 02 06:40:33 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1RhgFl-0000uG-LP for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2012 06:40:33 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:57463) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RhgFi-0000u8-Qy for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2012 06:40:31 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RhgFh-0008Qk-PP for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2012 06:40:30 -0500 Received: from sam.nabble.com ([216.139.236.26]:55139) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RhgFh-0008Qf-Ll for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2012 06:40:29 -0500 Received: from jim.nabble.com ([192.168.236.80]) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RhgFf-0000zv-Tt for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2012 03:40:27 -0800 Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 03:40:27 -0800 (PST) From: Dim To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Message-ID: <1325504427915-7143585.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <6FEA87CF-FE41-4DD9-B7CF-1B7A40D2BA60@yahoo.fr> References: <6FEA87CF-FE41-4DD9-B7CF-1B7A40D2BA60@yahoo.fr> Subject: Re: Frescobaldi/LilyPondTool MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 216.139.236.26 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2012 11:40:31 -0000 j'ai beaucoup boss=C3=A9 sur les deux et pour l'instant je choisis jedit + LilypondTools, d=C3=A9j=C3=A0 parce que j'ai d=C3=A9but=C3=A9 dessus gr=C3= =A2ce aux tutos de Valentin Villenave et parce que jEdit est mon =C3=A9diteur de texte pour tout autres= codes que Lilypond,=20 Fresco est sous KDE et je ne suis pas fan, un peu moins facile quand on veu= t mettre =C3=A0 jour seulement Lilypond mais par contre beaucoup plus facile = =C3=A0 installer rapidement chez les p=C3=B4tes quand on veut reprendre une partoc= he vite fait, un apt-get install et c'est r=C3=A9gl=C3=A9 alors que j'ai souve= nt des probl=C3=A8mes sur les d=C3=A9pendances de lilypondtools et c'est un peu ga= l=C3=A8re =C3=A0 installer manuellement. Niveau stabilit=C3=A9 jEdit me fait de dr=C3=B4les de trucs =C3=A0 l'affich= age (surtout =C3=A0 l'extinction) mais rien de m=C3=A9chant. Dim -- View this message in context: http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabbl= e.com/Frescobaldi-LilyPondTool-tp7143495p7143585.html Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From MAILER-DAEMON Mon Jan 02 06:46:31 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1RhgLX-0001Qu-Ho for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2012 06:46:31 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:41079) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RhgLT-0001LC-2W for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2012 06:46:27 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RhgLR-0000YH-KQ for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2012 06:46:27 -0500 Received: from mail-qy0-f169.google.com ([209.85.216.169]:54493) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RhgLR-0000Y3-8Y for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2012 06:46:25 -0500 Received: by qcsd17 with SMTP id d17so10579056qcs.0 for ; Mon, 02 Jan 2012 03:46:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=mMDw7DsTQjUt80Z5xaAkmmRaxgDF3P+RiYWY+LYwtiw=; b=OXKQWfJxiJWYQF5YgoQ+Jxs/IZMK3oFIp2SoeA6QhlVYS+qpAV/lqyrv2mu4NSEYf8 KLvS5nMNrpZF/f76ynAMC8d0hMWeYstmodNlMlAvbB3haEHaTNKDcQsleDvJfUyaH22j ccBCKazlR9EDDslh3OD8kNQcjqQ1t1zSVeNW0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.35.68 with SMTP id o4mr6475152qad.75.1325504784432; Mon, 02 Jan 2012 03:46:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.229.7.75 with HTTP; Mon, 2 Jan 2012 03:46:24 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1325504164845-7143577.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <4EFF56D4.9030407@orange.fr> <1325504164845-7143577.post@n2.nabble.com> Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 12:46:24 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Basse continue From: Bertrand Bordage To: flup Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf306f77f2d2fdf304b58a21a9 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 209.85.216.169 Cc: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2012 11:46:27 -0000 --20cf306f77f2d2fdf304b58a21a9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Petite pr=E9cision : J'avais pr=E9cis=E9 "sur le sixi=E8me degr=E9 descendant" car sur le second= degr=E9 (ce sont des faux degr=E9s, hein, c'est la note de la basse et non pas de l= a basse fondamentale) on omet tr=E8s souvent de chiffrer la petite sixte car c'est un r=E9flexe que tout continuiste apprend =E0 l'=E2ge de 3 ans :D --20cf306f77f2d2fdf304b58a21a9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Petite pr=E9cision :
J'avais pr=E9cis=E9 "sur le sixi=E8me deg= r=E9 descendant" car sur le second degr=E9 (ce sont des faux degr=E9s,= hein, c'est la note de la basse et non pas de la basse fondamentale) o= n omet tr=E8s souvent de chiffrer la petite sixte car c'est un r=E9flex= e que tout continuiste apprend =E0 l'=E2ge de 3 ans :D
--20cf306f77f2d2fdf304b58a21a9-- From MAILER-DAEMON Mon Jan 02 12:29:14 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1RhlhC-0007mG-NK for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2012 12:29:14 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:33059) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RhlhA-0007lW-Bv for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2012 12:29:13 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rhlh9-0005NS-8b for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2012 12:29:12 -0500 Received: from sam.nabble.com ([216.139.236.26]:59892) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rhlh9-0005NK-28 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2012 12:29:11 -0500 Received: from jim.nabble.com ([192.168.236.80]) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rhlh7-0005Pd-KE for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2012 09:29:09 -0800 Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 09:29:09 -0800 (PST) From: flup To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Message-ID: <1325525349603-7144333.post@n2.nabble.com> Subject: Sacem et Common Creatives MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 216.139.236.26 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2012 17:29:13 -0000 J'imagine que les Lilypondiens de l'Hexagone sont au courant, mais je n'en avais pas entendu parler en Belgique : il semble que la Sacem envisage la possibilit=C3=A9 pour ses affili=C3=A9s de lui c=C3=A9der la gestion des ut= ilisations commerciales, tout en permettant les utilisations non commerciales (ce qui est jusqu'=C3=A0 pr=C3=A9sent impossible) dans le cadre des licences Common= Creatives. http://www.numerama.com/magazine/19863-la-sacem-acceptera-les-creative-comm= ons-maj.html http://www.numerama.com/magazine/19863-la-sacem-acceptera-les-creative-comm= ons-maj.html=20 Rien de tel =C3=A0 ma connaissance en Belgique. Peut-=C3=AAtre certains par= mi vous ont-ils des informations plus pr=C3=A9cises sur le sujet. Philippe -- View this message in context: http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabbl= e.com/Sacem-et-Common-Creatives-tp7144333p7144333.html Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From MAILER-DAEMON Mon Jan 02 13:29:21 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1RhmdN-0001Ax-FI for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2012 13:29:21 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:56165) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RhmdK-00018T-NW for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2012 13:29:19 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RhmdJ-0004c3-E8 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2012 13:29:18 -0500 Received: from mail-vx0-f169.google.com ([209.85.220.169]:54807) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RhmdJ-0004av-A4 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2012 13:29:17 -0500 Received: by vcge1 with SMTP id e1so13449448vcg.0 for ; Mon, 02 Jan 2012 10:29:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=/4tmjJQ4Ut/aKmqqcjV5g3wdjuswHmhArdJi8f9rq7s=; b=Sdc1Gx+9slDRCBgUjuvNUHj/50ZalUEtzJnv8sKYYjpjX8n8JAQtbwcjXFQvoJR3gb KZ0EMCkb4QZ1w3tc+jj45hLZqI6Pl+Qa1E2fLPEBsu2wM7cninFPc+nu+sgI5g+wRKNU HqLCLqutSYXxSglexg9oINnwT4ifVbGv54whk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.178.229 with SMTP id db5mr11805379vdc.101.1325528955983; Mon, 02 Jan 2012 10:29:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.52.183.163 with HTTP; Mon, 2 Jan 2012 10:29:15 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1325525349603-7144333.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1325525349603-7144333.post@n2.nabble.com> Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 19:29:15 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Sacem et Common Creatives From: phijazz To: flup Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec517a9848f979004b58fc233 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 209.85.220.169 Cc: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2012 18:29:19 -0000 --bcaec517a9848f979004b58fc233 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable J'avais demand=E9 il y a quelques temps sur un tchat sur lesoir.be alors qu'ils recevaient un responsable de la Sabam. D'apr=E8s ses dires, les contrats avec la Sabam ne sont pas incompatibles avec les licences libres. Pour en =EAtre certain, tu peux te renseigner sur place. Sinon, il reste la solution d'utiliser un pseudo pour publier en CC. De toutes fa=E7ons, la Sabam, =E7a sert surtout pour les royalties lorsque = tu es diffus=E9. Autrement, la meilleure solution reste l'enveloppe scell=E9e = en recommand=E9 ou faire appel =E0 des services de d=E9pots =E0 vie des oeuvre= s, dont certains sont online. Le 2 janvier 2012 18:29, flup a =E9crit : > J'imagine que les Lilypondiens de l'Hexagone sont au courant, mais je n'e= n > avais pas entendu parler en Belgique : il semble que la Sacem envisage la > possibilit=E9 pour ses affili=E9s de lui c=E9der la gestion des utilisati= ons > commerciales, tout en permettant les utilisations non commerciales (ce qu= i > est jusqu'=E0 pr=E9sent impossible) dans le cadre des licences Common > Creatives. > > > http://www.numerama.com/magazine/19863-la-sacem-acceptera-les-creative-co= mmons-maj.html > > http://www.numerama.com/magazine/19863-la-sacem-acceptera-les-creative-co= mmons-maj.html > > Rien de tel =E0 ma connaissance en Belgique. Peut-=EAtre certains parmi v= ous > ont-ils des informations plus pr=E9cises sur le sujet. > > Philippe > > -- > View this message in context: > http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabble.com/Sacem-et-Common-Creati= ves-tp7144333p7144333.html > Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > liste de diffusion lilypond-user-fr > lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user-fr > --=20 Philippe --bcaec517a9848f979004b58fc233 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable J'avais demand=E9 il y a quelques temps sur un tchat sur lesoir.be alors qu'ils recevaient un responsable de = la Sabam. D'apr=E8s ses dires, les contrats avec la Sabam ne sont pas i= ncompatibles avec les licences libres.
Pour en =EAtre certain, tu peux te renseigner sur place. Sinon, il reste la= solution d'utiliser un pseudo pour publier en CC.

De toutes fa= =E7ons, la Sabam, =E7a sert surtout pour les royalties lorsque tu es diffus= =E9. Autrement, la meilleure solution reste l'enveloppe scell=E9e en re= command=E9 ou faire appel =E0 des services de d=E9pots =E0 vie des oeuvres,= dont certains sont online.

Le 2 janvier 2012 18:29, flup <philippe@philmassart.ne= t> a =E9crit :
J'imagine que les Lilypondiens de l'Hexagone sont au courant, mais = je n'en
avais pas entendu parler en Belgique : il semble que la Sacem envisage la possibilit=E9 pour ses affili=E9s de lui c=E9der la gestion des utilisation= s
commerciales, tout en permettant les utilisations non commerciales (ce qui<= br> est jusqu'=E0 pr=E9sent impossible) dans le cadre des licences Common C= reatives.

http://www.numerama.com/magazine= /19863-la-sacem-acceptera-les-creative-commons-maj.html
http://www.numerama.com/magazine= /19863-la-sacem-acceptera-les-creative-commons-maj.html

Rien de tel =E0 ma connaissance en Belgique. Peut-=EAtre certains parmi vou= s
ont-ils des informations plus pr=E9cises sur le sujet.

Philippe

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--bcaec517a9848f979004b58fc233-- From MAILER-DAEMON Mon Jan 02 14:19:25 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1RhnPp-0001Ek-Hx for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2012 14:19:25 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:44612) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RhnPm-0001Dh-JW for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2012 14:19:23 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RhnPl-0002Do-P0 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2012 14:19:22 -0500 Received: from ld64.inmotionhosting.com ([205.134.255.128]:33079) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RhnPl-0002Dk-JI for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2012 14:19:21 -0500 Received: from aputeaux-652-1-205-125.w86-217.abo.wanadoo.fr ([86.217.68.125]:49551 helo=new-host.home) by ld64.inmotionhosting.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RhnPl-0003c1-4T for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2012 11:19:21 -0800 From: "mike@apollinemike.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: FOSDEM Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 20:19:17 +0100 Message-Id: <6929584A-6EC3-4A55-B29F-6F572E7549B9@apollinemike.com> To: lilypondeurs FR Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - ld64.inmotionhosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - apollinemike.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Windows 98 (1) X-Received-From: 205.134.255.128 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2012 19:19:23 -0000 Bonsoir, Je viens de voir un mail sur la liste internationale sur FOSDEM - un = congr=E8s de d=E9veloppement open-source =E0 Bruxelles le week-end du 4 = f=E9vrier. 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Cordialement, ~Mike= From MAILER-DAEMON Mon Jan 02 14:35:21 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1RhnfF-0003KA-LG for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2012 14:35:21 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:57349) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RhnfD-0003K0-4M for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2012 14:35:19 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RhnfC-0003sv-2D for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2012 14:35:19 -0500 Received: from sam.nabble.com ([216.139.236.26]:43780) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RhnfB-0003sr-TU for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2012 14:35:18 -0500 Received: from jim.nabble.com ([192.168.236.80]) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RhnfA-0002tk-B4 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2012 11:35:16 -0800 Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 11:35:16 -0800 (PST) From: flup To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Message-ID: <1325532916333-7144612.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <6929584A-6EC3-4A55-B29F-6F572E7549B9@apollinemike.com> References: <6929584A-6EC3-4A55-B29F-6F572E7549B9@apollinemike.com> Subject: Re: FOSDEM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 216.139.236.26 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2012 19:35:19 -0000 J'en serais heureux (je suis =C3=A0 Bruxelles 6 jours / 7) mais mon horaire= de cette ann=C3=A9e rendra probablement la chose impossible :( Philippe -- View this message in context: http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabbl= e.com/FOSDEM-tp7144575p7144612.html Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From MAILER-DAEMON Mon Jan 02 18:38:45 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1RhrSn-0008SZ-UI for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2012 18:38:45 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:39641) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RhrSl-0008SR-OZ for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2012 18:38:44 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RhrSg-0000PL-TD for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2012 18:38:43 -0500 Received: from sam.nabble.com ([216.139.236.26]:60007) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RhrSg-0000PF-PZ for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2012 18:38:38 -0500 Received: from jim.nabble.com ([192.168.236.80]) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RhrSe-0007ui-Ck for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2012 15:38:36 -0800 Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 15:38:36 -0800 (PST) From: Jean-Christophe D To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Message-ID: <1325547516373-7145174.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <4F00A3E1.30703@free.fr> References: <4F00A3E1.30703@free.fr> Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re:_d=C3=A9caler_des_paroles_(pas_des_sons!)?= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 216.139.236.26 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2012 23:38:44 -0000 Jean GOUJON wrote >=20 > Qui fait la pluie Et sur -- tout le beau temps __ > % aller =C3=A0 la mesure 44 > \set stanza =3D "2." D=C3=A8s l'ins -- tant que je suis dans tes bras = Le bon > -- heur est Solution simpliste: Qui fait la pluie Et sur -- tout le beau temps __ % aller =C3=A0 la mesure 44 " " _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ % etc. % =3D> autant de soulign=C3=A9s que de notes =C3=A0 sauter pour rejoindr= e la fameuse mesure 44... \set stanza =3D "2." D=C3=A8s l'ins -- tant que je suis dans tes bras Le= bon -- heur est (note: /...pas s=C3=BBr que le second \set stanza =3D "2." soit bien pris e= n compte.../) Sinon: - d=C3=A9couper \soprano en trois parties qui seront nomm=C3=A9es ind=C3= =A9pendamment les unes des autres par \new Voice =3D "nom" (plusieurs solutions possibles: d= ans la variable m=C3=AAme, ou bien en trois variables...), puis lier les trois parties de texte correspondantes (de pr=C3=A9f=C3=A9rence trois variables..= .) aux notes avec \lyricsto Bonne ann=C3=A9e =C3=A0 tous, Jean-Christophe -- View this message in context: http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabbl= e.com/decaler-des-paroles-pas-des-sons-tp7142357p7145174.html Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From MAILER-DAEMON Tue Jan 03 03:55:24 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1Ri09U-0003Wl-4Z for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jan 2012 03:55:24 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:34672) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ri09P-0003NN-Pn for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jan 2012 03:55:21 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ri09N-00057f-CI for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jan 2012 03:55:19 -0500 Received: from smtp05.smtpout.orange.fr ([80.12.242.127]:19924 helo=smtp.smtpout.orange.fr) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ri09M-00057D-Nl for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jan 2012 03:55:17 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([81.49.60.245]) by mwinf5d52 with ME id GwvD1i00B5HTyXl03wvE64; Tue, 03 Jan 2012 09:55:14 +0100 Message-ID: <4F02C271.5060309@free.fr> Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2012 09:55:13 +0100 From: Jean Goujon User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.24) Gecko/20111110 Mageia/3.1.16-1.mga1 (1) Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.16 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Subject: Re: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?d=E9caler_des_paroles_=28pas_des_so?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?ns!=29?= References: <4F00A3E1.30703@free.fr> <1325547516373-7145174.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <1325547516373-7145174.post@n2.nabble.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.12.242.127 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2012 08:55:22 -0000 Le 03/01/2012 00:38, Jean-Christophe D a écrit : > > Jean GOUJON wrote >> >> Qui fait la pluie Et sur -- tout le beau temps __ >> % aller à la mesure 44 >> \set stanza = "2." Dès l'ins -- tant que je suis dans tes bras Le bon >> -- heur est > > Solution simpliste: > > Qui fait la pluie Et sur -- tout le beau temps __ > % aller à la mesure 44 > " " _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ % etc. > % => autant de soulignés que de notes à sauter pour rejoindre la fameuse > mesure 44... > \set stanza = "2." Dès l'ins -- tant que je suis dans tes bras Le bon -- > heur est > > (note: /...pas sûr que le second \set stanza = "2." soit bien pris en > compte.../) > > Sinon: > - découper \soprano en trois parties qui seront nommées indépendamment les > unes des autres par \new Voice = "nom" (plusieurs solutions possibles: dans > la variable même, ou bien en trois variables...), puis lier les trois > parties de texte correspondantes (de préférence trois variables...) aux > notes avec \lyricsto > > Bonjour, merci pour cette solution toute simple qui fait ce que je veux. Pas de problème pour le \set stanza = "2."qui est repris en cours de paroles. salut. -- Jean GOUJON, http://aperturaXVI.org (Ensemble Vocal & Instrumental) - www.abul.org (Linux & logiciels libres) - Téléchargez et essayez linux! http://wiki.mandriva.com/fr/Accueil ou http://www.mageia.org/fr/ From MAILER-DAEMON Tue Jan 03 09:06:59 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1Ri511-0007o4-EQ for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jan 2012 09:06:59 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:37496) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ri50t-0007lF-Ue for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jan 2012 09:06:57 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ri50s-00014z-H0 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jan 2012 09:06:51 -0500 Received: from sam.nabble.com ([216.139.236.26]:40122) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ri50s-00014e-Cl for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jan 2012 09:06:50 -0500 Received: from jim.nabble.com ([192.168.236.80]) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Ri50r-00050D-8X for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jan 2012 06:06:49 -0800 Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 06:06:49 -0800 (PST) From: Damien To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Message-ID: <1325599609245-7146813.post@n2.nabble.com> Subject: Notation nolets MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 216.139.236.26 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2012 14:06:57 -0000 Bonjour =C3=A0 tous, Ma question d=C3=A9borde s=C3=BBrement un peu le cadre de ce forum puisqu'e= lle concerne plus la notation musicale elle-m=C3=AAme que LilyPond. Je vous pri= e de bien vouloir m'en excuser par avance... Je souhaite remplacer un triolet de double-croches (soit la valeur d'une croche) par un huiti=C3=A8me de soupir suivit d'un nolet de ??? (l=C3=A0 es= t la question...) toujours pour la valeur totale d'une croche. Sur l'image jointe ce que j'estime =C3=AAtre la solution. Cependant, n'=C3= =A9tant pas sp=C3=A9cialiste en notation musicale, j'ai juste tent=C3=A9 de r=C3=A9soud= re l'=C3=A9quation math=C3=A9matique suivante : "je veux trois notes de dur=C3=A9es identiques= dans l'=C3=A9quivalent de 7 triples croches..." Suis-je dans le vrai ? A vrai dire, j'aurais pr=C3=A9f=C3=A9r=C3=A9 avoir g= raphiquement des doubles-croches que des triples mais est-ce possible ? Merci pour vos commentaires que je sais =C3=AAtre =C3=A9clair=C3=A9s. Damien http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabble.com/file/n7146813/Essai_nole= t.jpg=20 -- View this message in context: http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabbl= e.com/Notation-nolets-tp7146813p7146813.html Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From MAILER-DAEMON Tue Jan 03 09:26:41 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1Ri5K5-0004jy-Ay for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jan 2012 09:26:41 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:47304) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ri5K2-0004jn-BC for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jan 2012 09:26:39 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ri5K1-0004S1-9I for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jan 2012 09:26:38 -0500 Received: from mail-qw0-f41.google.com ([209.85.216.41]:42303) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ri5K1-0004Rr-6l for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jan 2012 09:26:37 -0500 Received: by qabg40 with SMTP id g40so8718256qab.0 for ; Tue, 03 Jan 2012 06:26:35 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=LyWiyN4vm30VjVqjbtX4gOd3tgWlChKoVANEfYdNIYU=; b=qsh7qz1T++C2DIik7mNJjz9gJbNXX5URFxIbIMdWnmRyVCcMSK603FWTHzJga7Cmd1 33YaufT13GFWhr3yMOU71j0G/F1gzpzmuFW6jw7GnDlOySvKKJg8qEiZFk1tOg4g7VTG tiaXw0VlPqtQfk7FHbpKmB3xTFdL5cMOe7D40= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.200.197 with SMTP id ex5mr17501899qab.88.1325600795873; Tue, 03 Jan 2012 06:26:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.229.7.75 with HTTP; Tue, 3 Jan 2012 06:26:35 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1325599609245-7146813.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1325599609245-7146813.post@n2.nabble.com> Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 15:26:35 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Notation nolets From: Bertrand Bordage To: Damien Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3010ed838d512704b5a07c32 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 209.85.216.41 Cc: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2012 14:26:40 -0000 --20cf3010ed838d512704b5a07c32 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Je ne suis pas s=FBr de comprendre... Dans une croche, on case quatre trip= le croches et non huit... Du coup je noterais simplement : r32 a a a --20cf3010ed838d512704b5a07c32 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Je ne suis pas s=FBr de comprendre... =A0Dans une croche, on case quat= re triple croches et non huit... =A0Du coup je noterais simplement :
<= div>r32 a a a --20cf3010ed838d512704b5a07c32-- From MAILER-DAEMON Tue Jan 03 09:36:53 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1Ri5Tx-0007H3-Kn for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jan 2012 09:36:53 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:44106) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ri5Tr-0007FE-3e for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jan 2012 09:36:51 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ri5Tm-0006Nh-Uo for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jan 2012 09:36:47 -0500 Received: from sam.nabble.com ([216.139.236.26]:42985) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ri5Tm-0006Nc-Pz for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jan 2012 09:36:42 -0500 Received: from jim.nabble.com ([192.168.236.80]) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Ri5Tl-0008Li-T0 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jan 2012 06:36:41 -0800 Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 06:36:41 -0800 (PST) From: Damien To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Message-ID: <1325601401891-7146891.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: References: <1325599609245-7146813.post@n2.nabble.com> Subject: Re: Notation nolets MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 216.139.236.26 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2012 14:36:51 -0000 Bonjour Bertrand, j'ai corrig=C3=A9 ma question. Je cherche =C3=A0 remplacer une noire et non= une croche... -- View this message in context: http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabbl= e.com/Notation-nolets-modifiee-suite-remarque-de-Bertrand-tp7146813p7146891= .html Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From MAILER-DAEMON Tue Jan 03 09:52:18 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1Ri5is-0000iI-0E for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jan 2012 09:52:18 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:43647) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ri5il-0000es-M0 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jan 2012 09:52:15 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ri5ij-00008h-W1 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jan 2012 09:52:11 -0500 Received: from smtp2-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.2]:39873) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ri5ij-00007x-9m for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jan 2012 09:52:09 -0500 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [82.238.183.78]) by smtp2-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E3654B01C8 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2012 15:52:02 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4F031610.9010406@laposte.net> Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2012 15:52:00 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?C=E9cile_Huneau?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Subject: Re: Notation nolets References: <1325599609245-7146813.post@n2.nabble.com> <1325601401891-7146891.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <1325601401891-7146891.post@n2.nabble.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 120103-0, 03/01/2012), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 212.27.42.2 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2012 14:52:15 -0000 Le voil=E0 ! Enfin si j'ai bien compris ;-) \score { \relative c'' { r32 \once \override TupletNumber #'text =3D=20 #(tuplet-number::non-default-fraction-with-notes 3 "16" 7 "32") \times 7/6 {c16 [c c]} c4 c c c c c c} } Bonne journ=E9e, C=E9cile Le 03/01/2012 15:36, Damien a =E9crit : > Bonjour Bertrand, > > j'ai corrig=E9 ma question. Je cherche =E0 remplacer une noire et non u= ne > croche... > > -- > View this message in context: http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.n= abble.com/Notation-nolets-modifiee-suite-remarque-de-Bertrand-tp7146813p7= 146891.html > Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > liste de diffusion lilypond-user-fr > lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user-fr > From MAILER-DAEMON Tue Jan 03 09:53:15 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1Ri5jn-0001QO-O6 for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jan 2012 09:53:15 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:43816) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ri5jk-0001OZ-Do for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jan 2012 09:53:14 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ri5jj-0000Er-AS for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jan 2012 09:53:12 -0500 Received: from mail-qw0-f48.google.com ([209.85.216.48]:51966) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ri5jj-0000Ei-8D for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jan 2012 09:53:11 -0500 Received: by qadc16 with SMTP id c16so11558513qad.0 for ; Tue, 03 Jan 2012 06:53:10 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=NcjphB4dF5eW18LIxqk1/g2WQXpjoIHMsShkZ/Mb4DI=; b=mHp47Iem0H3FansWISYDp1tpZreSxxjbE/z7DqvPKxlsEYyD3kMOUk+twKNrZVmd7o ryQ+QeFSdckj7WEaVV42R+zbnJSBmjXdneg6EzFiT6GMJoW3KL95gOhK7L8zZG5OaCM+ mZW9tdrY/7VwZxykZIJZu5c4U+PPrFP/vVvwU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.35.68 with SMTP id o4mr11346676qad.75.1325602390696; Tue, 03 Jan 2012 06:53:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.229.7.75 with HTTP; Tue, 3 Jan 2012 06:53:10 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1325601401891-7146891.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1325599609245-7146813.post@n2.nabble.com> <1325601401891-7146891.post@n2.nabble.com> Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 15:53:10 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Notation nolets From: Bertrand Bordage To: Damien Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf306f77f29c61fc04b5a0db92 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 209.85.216.48 Cc: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2012 14:53:14 -0000 --20cf306f77f29c61fc04b5a0db92 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alors la proportion est de 7/3. Petite explication : une triple croche vaut 1/32 de ronde et on cherche =E0 en mettre 3 pour remplir l'espace de 7. Cela donne donc (avec x la proportion cherch=E9e) : x * 3 * 1/32 =3D 7 * 1/32 Avec la notation "classique", cela donne : r32 \times 7/3 { a a a } Mais comme cela n'affiche que le d=E9nominateur, =E0 savoir le 3, on ne comprend rien (noter le d=E9nominateur n'est de toutes fa=E7ons pas clair, = mais cela se fait tellement...). La notation la plus courante dans ce cas est d'afficher l'inverse de la proportion (donc ce que tu as bien =E9crit) : r32 \override TupletNumber #'text =3D #tuplet-number::calc-fraction-text \times 7/3 { a a a } Et non, ce n'est pas possible d'utiliser des doubles-croches, =E0 moins d'avoir une proportion plus tordue encore. --20cf306f77f29c61fc04b5a0db92 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alors la proportion est de 7/3.
Petite explication : une triple croche = vaut 1/32 de ronde et on cherche =E0 en mettre 3 pour remplir l'espace = de 7.
Cela donne donc (avec x la proportion cherch=E9e) :
x * 3 * 1/32 =3D 7 * 1/32
Avec la notation "classique",= cela donne :
r32 \times 7/3 { a a a }
Mais comme cela = n'affiche que le d=E9nominateur, =E0 savoir le 3, on ne comprend rien (= noter le d=E9nominateur n'est de toutes fa=E7ons pas clair, mais cela s= e fait tellement...).
La notation la plus courante dans ce cas est d'afficher l'inve= rse de la proportion (donc ce que tu as bien =E9crit) :

r32 \override TupletNumber #'text =3D #tuplet-number::calc-fracti= on-text \times 7/3 { a a a }

Et non, ce n'est pas possible d'utiliser des do= ubles-croches, =E0 moins d'avoir une proportion plus tordue encore. --20cf306f77f29c61fc04b5a0db92-- From MAILER-DAEMON Tue Jan 03 10:02:47 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1Ri5t1-0005ge-M8 for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jan 2012 10:02:47 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:34658) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ri5su-0005eu-Cy for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jan 2012 10:02:46 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ri5st-0001y7-1a for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jan 2012 10:02:40 -0500 Received: from smtp2-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.2]:49901) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ri5ss-0001xz-F6 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jan 2012 10:02:39 -0500 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [82.238.183.78]) by smtp2-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D6984B0080 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2012 16:02:32 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4F031886.2000906@laposte.net> Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2012 16:02:30 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?C=E9cile_Huneau?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Subject: Re: Notation nolets References: <1325599609245-7146813.post@n2.nabble.com> <1325601401891-7146891.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------030808080807070606050205" X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 120103-0, 03/01/2012), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 212.27.42.2 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2012 15:02:46 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------030808080807070606050205 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ah mais si =E7a marche avec les doubles croches ! Il suffit de vouloir=20 faire des =E9quivalences avec des unit=E9s semblables. 3 doubles croches = =3D 6=20 triples croches, donc veut 6 triples croches dans la dur=E9e de 7. On cr=E9= e=20 donc notre multiplet de 7:6 ce qui est convaincant au niveau des valeurs=20 mais tr=E8s perturbant =E0 cause du petit 6 qui s'affiche. D'o=F9 la peti= te=20 astuce constitant =E0 changer le texte. Parenth=E8se : les doubles croches donnent quelque chose de bien plus=20 lisible puisqu'en triple d'instinct on essaierait de remplir une croche=20 et non une noire. Parenth=E8se 2 : mes condol=E9ances au musicien qui devra jouer ce rythme= :-p Le 03/01/2012 15:53, Bertrand Bordage a =E9crit : > Alors la proportion est de 7/3. > Petite explication : une triple croche vaut 1/32 de ronde et on=20 > cherche =E0 en mettre 3 pour remplir l'espace de 7. > Cela donne donc (avec x la proportion cherch=E9e) : > x * 3 * 1/32 =3D 7 * 1/32 > Avec la notation "classique", cela donne : > r32 \times 7/3 { a a a } > Mais comme cela n'affiche que le d=E9nominateur, =E0 savoir le 3, on ne= =20 > comprend rien (noter le d=E9nominateur n'est de toutes fa=E7ons pas cla= ir,=20 > mais cela se fait tellement...). > La notation la plus courante dans ce cas est d'afficher l'inverse de=20 > la proportion (donc ce que tu as bien =E9crit) : > > r32 \override TupletNumber #'text =3D #tuplet-number::calc-fraction-tex= t=20 > \times 7/3 { a a a } > > Et non, ce n'est pas possible d'utiliser des doubles-croches, =E0 moins= =20 > d'avoir une proportion plus tordue encore. > > > _______________________________________________ > liste de diffusion lilypond-user-fr > lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user-fr --------------030808080807070606050205 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ah mais si ça marche avec les doubles croches ! Il suffit de vouloir faire des équivalences avec des unités semblables. 3 doubles croches = 6 triples croches, donc veut 6 triples croches dans la durée de 7. On crée donc notre multiplet de 7:6 ce qui est convaincant au niveau des valeurs mais très perturbant à cause du petit 6 qui s'affiche. D'où la petite astuce constitant à changer le texte.

Parenthèse : les doubles croches donnent quelque chose de bien plus lisible puisqu'en triple d'instinct on essaierait de remplir une croche et non une noire.
Parenthèse 2 : mes condoléances au musicien qui devra jouer ce rythme :-p


Le 03/01/2012 15:53, Bertrand Bordage a écrit :
Alors la proportion est de 7/3.
Petite explication : une triple croche vaut 1/32 de ronde et on cherche à en mettre 3 pour remplir l'espace de 7.
Cela donne donc (avec x la proportion cherchée) :
x * 3 * 1/32 = 7 * 1/32
Avec la notation "classique", cela donne :
r32 \times 7/3 { a a a }
Mais comme cela n'affiche que le dénominateur, à savoir le 3, on ne comprend rien (noter le dénominateur n'est de toutes façons pas clair, mais cela se fait tellement...).
La notation la plus courante dans ce cas est d'afficher l'inverse de la proportion (donc ce que tu as bien écrit) :

r32 \override TupletNumber #'text = #tuplet-number::calc-fraction-text \times 7/3 { a a a }

Et non, ce n'est pas possible d'utiliser des doubles-croches, à moins d'avoir une proportion plus tordue encore.


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--------------030808080807070606050205-- From MAILER-DAEMON Tue Jan 03 10:06:55 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1Ri5x1-0006cP-Gh for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jan 2012 10:06:55 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:39996) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ri5ws-0006bv-0i for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jan 2012 10:06:53 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ri5wn-0002j0-4B for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jan 2012 10:06:45 -0500 Received: from sam.nabble.com ([216.139.236.26]:46130) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ri5wm-0002iu-WA for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jan 2012 10:06:41 -0500 Received: from jim.nabble.com ([192.168.236.80]) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Ri5wl-0003gW-7y for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jan 2012 07:06:39 -0800 Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 07:06:39 -0800 (PST) From: flup To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Message-ID: <1325603199239-7146996.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <1325601401891-7146891.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1325599609245-7146813.post@n2.nabble.com> <1325601401891-7146891.post@n2.nabble.com> Subject: Re: Notation nolets MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 216.139.236.26 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2012 15:06:53 -0000 Personnellement, je mettrais, apr=C3=A8s le 8e de soupir, un groupe de 3 do= ubles, mais avec une =C3=A9quivalence not=C3=A9es 3 doubles : 7 triples comme le p= ropose C=C3=A9cile Visuellement, les 3 notes sonneront "presque" comme des doubles= , il est donc logique qu'=C3=A0 premi=C3=A8re vue, pour celui qui doit d=C3=A9ch= iffrer, ce soit la valeur qui saute le plus aux yeux. De la m=C3=AAme fa=C3=A7on qu'un quin= tolet de croches constitu=C3=A9 de seulement 2 notes (noire + noire point=C3=A9e, pa= r exemple) sera not=C3=A9 de fa=C3=A7on similaire, les valeurs "visuelles" donnant une= meilleure id=C3=A9e du r=C3=A9sultat final. Philippe -- View this message in context: http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabbl= e.com/Notation-nolets-modifiee-suite-remarque-de-Bertrand-tp7146813p7146996= .html Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From MAILER-DAEMON Tue Jan 03 10:10:06 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1Ri606-00075U-Ae for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jan 2012 10:10:06 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:34378) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ri5zv-00073T-NY for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jan 2012 10:10:05 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ri5zq-0003FL-P2 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jan 2012 10:09:55 -0500 Received: from smtp2-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.2]:54219) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ri5zp-0003F7-UF for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jan 2012 10:09:50 -0500 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [82.238.183.78]) by smtp2-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E77B4B021B for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2012 16:09:44 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4F031A36.604@laposte.net> Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2012 16:09:42 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?C=E9cile_Huneau?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Subject: Re: Notation nolets References: <1325599609245-7146813.post@n2.nabble.com> <1325601401891-7146891.post@n2.nabble.com> <1325603199239-7146996.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <1325603199239-7146996.post@n2.nabble.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 120103-0, 03/01/2012), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 212.27.42.2 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2012 15:10:05 -0000 Bon, une notation plus simple : r32 \override TupletNumber #'text =3D #tuplet-number::calc-fraction-text \times 7/3 { c16*1/2 c c } C'est un peu tir=E9 par les cheveux, d'accord, mais on garde l'affichage=20 demand=E9 au d=E9part sans =E9crire de chiffres "=E0 la main" C=E9cile Le 03/01/2012 16:06, flup a =E9crit : > Personnellement, je mettrais, apr=E8s le 8e de soupir, un groupe de 3 d= oubles, > mais avec une =E9quivalence not=E9es 3 doubles : 7 triples comme le pro= pose > C=E9cile Visuellement, les 3 notes sonneront "presque" comme des double= s, il > est donc logique qu'=E0 premi=E8re vue, pour celui qui doit d=E9chiffre= r, ce soit > la valeur qui saute le plus aux yeux. De la m=EAme fa=E7on qu'un quinto= let de > croches constitu=E9 de seulement 2 notes (noire + noire point=E9e, par = exemple) > sera not=E9 de fa=E7on similaire, les valeurs "visuelles" donnant une m= eilleure > id=E9e du r=E9sultat final. > > Philippe > > -- > View this message in context: http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.n= abble.com/Notation-nolets-modifiee-suite-remarque-de-Bertrand-tp7146813p7= 146996.html > Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > liste de diffusion lilypond-user-fr > lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user-fr > From MAILER-DAEMON Tue Jan 03 11:17:36 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1Ri73Q-0000FU-Dy for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jan 2012 11:17:36 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:53816) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ri73N-0008Lh-G8 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jan 2012 11:17:34 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ri73M-0005uY-9R for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jan 2012 11:17:33 -0500 Received: from sam.nabble.com ([216.139.236.26]:52558) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ri73M-0005uU-10 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jan 2012 11:17:32 -0500 Received: from jim.nabble.com ([192.168.236.80]) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Ri73L-0002o4-AS for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jan 2012 08:17:31 -0800 Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 08:17:31 -0800 (PST) From: Damien To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Message-ID: <1325607451308-7147236.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <4F031886.2000906@laposte.net> References: <1325599609245-7146813.post@n2.nabble.com> <1325601401891-7146891.post@n2.nabble.com> <4F031886.2000906@laposte.net> Subject: Re: Notation nolets MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 216.139.236.26 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2012 16:17:34 -0000 C=C3=A9cile Huneau wrote >=20 > Parenth=C3=A8se 2 : mes condol=C3=A9ances au musicien qui devra jouer ce = rythme :-p >=20 C'est pour une partition de piano. La main gauche est cal=C3=A9e sur la m= =C3=A9trique et c'est la main droite qui a cette respiration avant l'attaque du nolet. L'objectif est de cr=C3=A9er un effet d=C3=A9structur=C3=A9 sur la main dro= ite. Initialement je l'avais =C3=A9crit en " r32 a16 a a16. " mais =C3=A7=C3=A0 = sonnait pas comme je le souhaitais. Apr=C3=A8s moulte t=C3=A2tonnements (merci le midi = pour faire des essais), je suis arriv=C3=A9 =C3=A0 la conclusion que je voulais vraime= nt ce huiti=C3=A8me de soupir suivi du nolet... Pour la repr=C3=A9sentation graphique finale, je me t=C3=A2te entre la vers= ion Bertrand qui est =C3=A0 mon sens la plus logique math=C3=A9matiquement parl= ant... et votre version qui est la plus logique graphiquement parlant (instinctivemen= t c'est pas gagn=C3=A9 d'imaginer quasiment la dur=C3=A9e d'une noire avec 3 = triples croches d'imprim=C3=A9...) En tout cas, un grand merci =C3=A0 tous pour toutes ces propositions. Cdlt. Damien -- View this message in context: http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabbl= e.com/Notation-nolets-modifiee-suite-remarque-de-Bertrand-tp7146813p7147236= .html Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From MAILER-DAEMON Tue Jan 03 14:08:59 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1Ri9jH-0000hX-V0 for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jan 2012 14:08:59 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:39765) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ri9jG-0000gC-86 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jan 2012 14:08:58 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ri9jF-0001QF-9N for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jan 2012 14:08:58 -0500 Received: from smtp04.smtpout.orange.fr ([80.12.242.126]:44173 helo=smtp.smtpout.orange.fr) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ri9jF-0001Os-00 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jan 2012 14:08:57 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([92.153.161.74]) by mwinf5d27 with ME id H78u1i0091ccmp00378ubf; Tue, 03 Jan 2012 20:08:54 +0100 Message-ID: <4F035246.5030901@orange.fr> Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2012 20:08:54 +0100 From: Jean-Charles Malahieude User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111115 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bertrand Bordage Subject: Re: Basse continue References: <4EFF56D4.9030407@orange.fr> <1325504164845-7143577.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.12.242.126 Cc: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2012 19:08:59 -0000 Le 02/01/2012 12:46, Bertrand Bordage disait : > Petite pr=C3=A9cision : > J'avais pr=C3=A9cis=C3=A9 "sur le sixi=C3=A8me degr=C3=A9 descendant" c= ar sur le second > degr=C3=A9 (ce sont des faux degr=C3=A9s, hein, c'est la note de la bas= se et non > pas de la basse fondamentale) on omet tr=C3=A8s souvent de chiffrer la = petite > sixte car c'est un r=C3=A9flexe que tout continuiste apprend =C3=A0 l'=C3= =A2ge de 3 ans :D > J'aurais donc tendance =C3=A0 dire, en guise de pseudo-conclusion : =C2=AB Avec tous ces faux fr=C3=A8res et ces cousins au n-i=C3=A8me degr=C3= =A9, les=20 continuistes forment une sacr=C3=A9e famille ! =C2=BB J'en ai pourtant saisi dans Arthur, mais je ne me rappelle plus la=20 remarque de Virginie, la prof de clavecin... Pour faire court dans le texte, je l'appelle =C2=AB petite sixte =C2=BB. Meilleurs v=C5=93ux =C3=A0 tous, Jean-Charles From MAILER-DAEMON Wed Jan 04 02:35:02 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1RiLNG-0006NH-D3 for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 02:35:02 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:42621) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RiLNE-0006Ms-2H for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 02:35:00 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RiLND-0005Y6-5s for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 02:35:00 -0500 Received: from sam.nabble.com ([216.139.236.26]:33507) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RiLND-0005Y0-0z for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 02:34:59 -0500 Received: from jim.nabble.com ([192.168.236.80]) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RiLNB-00029F-By for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jan 2012 23:34:57 -0800 Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 23:34:57 -0800 (PST) From: flup To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Message-ID: <1325662497338-7149528.post@n2.nabble.com> Subject: Nuance en fin de mesure MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 216.139.236.26 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2012 07:35:01 -0000 Bonjour, Dans une mesure finale, j'aimerais qu'une nuance (sur une note tenue) se trouve tout =C3=A0 la fin d'une mesure. J'utilise un contexte \new Dynamic = et pla=C3=A7ant ces nuances avec des skip, mais la nuance (un \ffff pr=C3=A9c= =C3=A9d=C3=A9 d'un \< ) est encore trop =C3=A9loign=C3=A9e de la barre finale. Y a-t-il un moyen = de la rapproche, voire la placer sous la barre de mesure ? J'ai tent=C3=A9 un \override DynamicText #'to-barline =3D ##t mais rien n'= y fait, pas plus que le changement de valeur rythmique des skip; un \override DynamicText #'X-offset aura comme effet secondaire de compresser le reste des nuances. Bref, j'aimerais donner un petit coup de pied au derri=C3=A8re du \ffff san= s bouger le reste. Philippe -- View this message in context: http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabbl= e.com/Nuance-en-fin-de-mesure-tp7149528p7149528.html Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From MAILER-DAEMON Wed Jan 04 07:58:39 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1RiQQR-0005pL-OX for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 07:58:39 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:38544) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RiQQM-0005nf-J4 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 07:58:38 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RiQQL-0006Oe-6E for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 07:58:34 -0500 Received: from mail-pz0-f41.google.com ([209.85.210.41]:37185) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RiQQL-0006OG-1K for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 07:58:33 -0500 Received: by dakl33 with SMTP id l33so14449961dak.0 for ; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 04:58:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=emDClPhl6GuIxALNalnquwksRasVfTX6Paj6wHfvMsM=; b=ujE4GbDzxTTarLhHIHtRo0v18ld/D+JKayE6R5xxbLVhKqa5XwCVZGWiRbCvAXSkhW m/nNU0jObqdswCSnk+Ha7p2VNVp3SNrMjWWR6SUMMunhIeR75uTNoZk8KLNXSUFEUpl4 goNrJKmJ/kGaKhDBa2l56/DAsLcws0oCNqv0c= Received: by 10.68.191.74 with SMTP id gw10mr4310403pbc.34.1325681911377; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 04:58:31 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.58.21 with HTTP; Wed, 4 Jan 2012 04:58:09 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1325662497338-7149528.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1325662497338-7149528.post@n2.nabble.com> From: Xavier Scheuer Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 13:58:09 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Nuance en fin de mesure To: flup Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 209.85.210.41 Cc: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2012 12:58:38 -0000 2012/1/4 flup : > Bonjour, > > Dans une mesure finale, j'aimerais qu'une nuance (sur une note tenue) se > trouve tout =C3=A0 la fin d'une mesure. J'utilise un contexte \new Dynami= c et > pla=C3=A7ant ces nuances avec des skip, mais la nuance (un \ffff pr=C3=A9= c=C3=A9d=C3=A9 d'un \< > ) est encore trop =C3=A9loign=C3=A9e de la barre finale. Y a-t-il un moye= n de la > rapproche, voire la placer sous la barre de mesure ? Salut, c'1\< s4*0\ffff donne une "erreur de programmation : bounds of this piece aren't breakable. poursuite ; croisons les doigts." mais g=C3=A9n=C3=A8re le PDF et la nuance= est sous la barre de mesure finale. > J'ai tent=C3=A9 un \override DynamicText #'to-barline =3D ##t mais rien = n'y fait, > pas plus que le changement de valeur rythmique des skip; un \override > DynamicText #'X-offset aura comme effet secondaire de compresser le rest= e > des nuances. Pas suivi. Si tu utilises \once cela ne risque pas de "compresser le reste des nuances". Ou alors je n'ai pas compris ce que tu voulais dire. Il se peut que le fait que cela soit dans un contexte Dynamics change quelq= ue chose. Il y a aussi le bug #1861 qui a =C3=A9t=C3=A9 corrig=C3=A9 par Mike= dans la version qui _va_ sortir (2.15.24). http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=3D1861 Cordialement, Xavier --=20 Xavier Scheuer From MAILER-DAEMON Wed Jan 04 08:24:55 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1RiQpr-0004bQ-6p for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 08:24:55 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:45940) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RiQpk-0004bJ-VY for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 08:24:53 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RiQpg-000231-Dn for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 08:24:48 -0500 Received: from sam.nabble.com ([216.139.236.26]:37881) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RiQpg-00022x-5k for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 08:24:44 -0500 Received: from jim.nabble.com ([192.168.236.80]) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RiQpd-0005vw-Ca for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 05:24:41 -0800 Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 05:24:41 -0800 (PST) From: Jean-Christophe D To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Message-ID: <1325683481383-7150388.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <1325662497338-7149528.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1325662497338-7149528.post@n2.nabble.com> Subject: Re: Nuance en fin de mesure MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 216.139.236.26 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2012 13:24:53 -0000 flup wrote >=20 > J'ai tent=C3=A9 un \override DynamicText #'to-barline =3D ##t mais rien = n'y > fait, pas plus que le changement de valeur rythmique des skip; un > \override DynamicText #'X-offset aura comme effet secondaire de > compresser le reste des nuances. >=20 Bonjour, Il est tout =C3=A0 fait possible d'indiquer le \ffff sur le dernier temps d= e la derni=C3=A8re mesure, voire le dernier demi-temps, quart... Ici, on ne pour= ra pas etre "sous" la barre de mesure finale, mais seulement tr=C3=A8s pr=C3=A8s..= . Ceci dit, je n'ai pas de probl=C3=A8mes (v2.14.1) avec : \once \override DynamicText #'extra-offset =3D #'(12.0 . 0)... Avec cette m=C3=A9thode, le soufflet pr=C3=A9c=C3=A9dent s'arrete =C3=A0 la= barre de mesure pr=C3=A9c=C3=A9dente (si une seule note dans la derni=C3=A8re mesure --sans= exemple mini, j'ai improvis=C3=A9--, avec plus d'une note, on devrait avoir =C3=A0 peu pr= =C3=A8s le meme comportement que pr=C3=A9c=C3=A9demment). Ici j'arrive tranquillement sous la barre de mesure finale et au-del=C3=A0. J'ai suppos=C3=A9 que le \< est sous une note pr=C3=A9c=C3=A9dente... Si le= s deux nuances \< puis \ffff sont sous la MEME note finale, alors l=C3=A0, faut voir... Da= ns ce cas, un petit \mark devrait faire l'affaire... (pas pour le midi, =C3=A9videmment, seulement pour le pdf...) Voir tous les exemples en pi=C3=A8ce jointe. Cordialement, Jean-Christophe http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabble.com/file/n7150388/TEST.ly TEST.ly=20 -- View this message in context: http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabbl= e.com/Nuance-en-fin-de-mesure-tp7149528p7150388.html Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From MAILER-DAEMON Wed Jan 04 08:27:36 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1RiQsS-0005Gi-Kn for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 08:27:36 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:46157) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RiQsP-0005GX-RN for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 08:27:34 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RiQsL-0002GB-VY for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 08:27:33 -0500 Received: from sam.nabble.com ([216.139.236.26]:38011) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RiQsL-0002G7-LY for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 08:27:29 -0500 Received: from jim.nabble.com ([192.168.236.80]) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RiQsL-00067Q-8s for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 05:27:29 -0800 Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 05:27:29 -0800 (PST) From: Jean-Christophe D To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Message-ID: <1325683649251-7150398.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: References: <1325662497338-7149528.post@n2.nabble.com> Subject: Re: Nuance en fin de mesure MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 216.139.236.26 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2012 13:27:35 -0000 Xavier Scheuer wrote >=20 > Xavier Scheuer <x.scheuer@> >=20 ... et encore un m=C3=A9tro de retard (pour moi)... le temps de r=C3=A9dige= r la r=C3=A9ponse et les tests, et Xavier a d=C3=A9j=C3=A0 r=C3=A9pondu !... :-)= )) -- View this message in context: http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabbl= e.com/Nuance-en-fin-de-mesure-tp7149528p7150398.html Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From MAILER-DAEMON Wed Jan 04 09:24:45 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1RiRll-0007UH-CY for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 09:24:45 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:58234) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RiRli-0007St-Kl for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 09:24:43 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RiRlc-0003lW-P0 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 09:24:42 -0500 Received: from mirapoint21.brutele.be ([212.68.199.158]:29195) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RiRlc-0003lH-5c for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 09:24:36 -0500 Received: from [192.168.0.100] (host-85-27-79-9.brutele.be [85.27.79.9]) by mirapoint21.brutele.be (MOS 4.2.3-GA) with ESMTP id AXQ02634; Wed, 4 Jan 2012 15:24:33 +0100 Subject: Re: Combinaison de parties Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?G=E9rard_Degrez?= In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 15:24:33 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <8F00AD4A-B14F-468F-B888-77136F4C39AC@yahoo.fr> References: <4A92FBD8-40AC-4CF6-A370-EF1E2B17560C@yahoo.fr> To: Lilypond Liste X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-Junkmail-Status: score=10/50, host=mirapoint21.brutele.be X-Junkmail-Signature-Raw: score=unknown, refid=str=0001.0A0B0205.4F046122.006B,ss=1,fgs=0, ip=0.0.0.0, so=2010-12-23 16:51:53, dmn=2009-09-10 00:05:08, mode=single engine X-Junkmail-IWF: false X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 212.68.199.158 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2012 14:24:43 -0000 Bonjour, D'abord, bonne ann=E9e =E0 tous. >> J'essaie de combiner deux parties de basson sur une port=E9e en >> utilisant la commande \partcombine comme indiqu=E9 dans la doc. >> Dans l'ensemble, tout se passe bien, mais =E0 certains endroits >> (comme dans l'exemple ci-dessous), les indications de nuances sont >> r=E9p=E9t=E9es aux deux voix, bien qu'elles soient identiques. >> Je ne comprends pas bien pourquoi, et comment je pourrais l'=E9viter. >=20 > Je ne comprends pas bien pourquoi non plus, mais je sais que > \partcombine est loin d'avoir un comportement id=E9al d=E8s que l'on > s'=E9loigne du cas tr=E8s simple de base. >=20 > Pour l'=E9viter on peux supprimer (momentan=E9ment ou de mani=E8re = permanente) > l'impression des indications de nuance pour la voix "one". >=20 > %%%% >=20 > \version "2.15.23" >=20 > \header{ > instrument =3D "Bassons" > } >=20 > \score { > \new Staff << > \context Voice =3D "one" \with { > \remove "New_dynamic_engraver" Merci pour le tuyau. Mais le comportement devient de plus en plus = =E9trange comme l'illustrent les exemples suivants (le code source est = inclus ci-dessous) 1) version de base (code source tel quel): on retrouve le comportement = mentionn=E9 pr=E9c=E9demment, c.-=E0-d. avec les indications de nuances = r=E9p=E9t=E9es aux deux voix 2) en d=E9commentant les 3 lignes suivant \new Staff<< (c.-=E0-d. en = suivant ta suggestion): les indications de nuances ne sont plus r=E9p=E9t=E9= es =E0 la voix sup=E9rieure, mais par contre les accents le sont = toujours. 3) version de base (sans supprimer les indications de nuances de la voix = sup=E9rieure) + deux mesures ajout=E9es au d=E9but de chaque partie (en = d=E9commentant les lignes suivant \time 4/4 dans chaque partie: cette = fois, ni les indications de nuance, ni les accents ne sont r=E9p=E9t=E9s = (comportement souhait=E9). En comparant la gravure des deux derni=E8res = mesures, on peut constater que la non-r=E9p=E9tition des accents va de = pair avec le placement des notes des deux voix sur une m=EAme hampe. En r=E9alit=E9, les mesures de l'exemple sont extraites d'une partition = (pour un orchestre d'Harmonie) plus longue, dans laquelle Lilypond passe = d'un comportement =E0 l'autre sans raison apparente. Je peux fournir le = code complet si cela int=E9resse quelqu'un. Bon, cela dit, ce n'est pas = tr=E8s important, je peux simplement fournir uniquement sa propre voix =E0= chaque musicien (c'est d'ailleurs plus clair) ou encore la partition = avec les deux voix s=E9par=E9es. Mais pour la directrice, il est utile = de pouvoir combiner les voix de chaque pupitre sur une seule port=E9e. Cordialement, G=E9rard Code source: *************** \header{ instrument =3D "Bassons" } \score { \new Staff << % \context Voice =3D "one" \with { % \remove "New_dynamic_engraver" % } \partcombine=20 \relative c'{ \clef bass \key f \major \time 4/4 %r8\ff ees,\accent g\accent bes!\accent des2\accent~ des8 c\accent = bes\accent aes\accent g2\accent \bar "||" \tempo "Grandioso" bes1\ff\> bes\> a\> b\> c4\!\accent c\accent c\accent = c\accent=20 c8\accent r c8\>\accent r c8\!\accent r r4\fermata \bar "||" }=20 \relative c{ \clef bass \key f \major \time 4/4 %r8\ff ees\accent g,\accent bes!\accent des2\accent~ des8 c\accent = bes\accent aes\accent g2\accent \bar "||" \tempo "Grandioso" c1\ff\> c\> f\> b,\> c4\!\accent c\accent c\accent = c\accent=20 c8\accent r c8\>\accent r c8\!\accent r r4\fermata \bar "||" } >>=20 } \version "2.12.3" % necessary for upgrading to future LilyPond = versions. From MAILER-DAEMON Wed Jan 04 13:51:11 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1RiVvb-0006R4-NA for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 13:51:11 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:43393) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RiVvY-0006OE-OC for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 13:51:09 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RiVvX-0005eE-1o for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 13:51:08 -0500 Received: from sam.nabble.com ([216.139.236.26]:41525) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RiVvW-0005dc-UU for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 13:51:07 -0500 Received: from jim.nabble.com ([192.168.236.80]) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RiVvT-0007ll-SA for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 10:51:03 -0800 Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 10:51:03 -0800 (PST) From: flup To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Message-ID: <1325703063358-7151502.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <1325683649251-7150398.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1325662497338-7149528.post@n2.nabble.com> <1325683649251-7150398.post@n2.nabble.com> Subject: Re: Nuance en fin de mesure MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 216.139.236.26 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2012 18:51:09 -0000 Bonsoir et merci, L'indication \override DynamicText #'extra-offset fonctionne mais, du coup, seule la nuance a boug=C3=A9 (au bon endroit, certes), mais pas le crescend= o graphique qui y m=C3=A8ne. Voici ce =C3=A0 quoi ressemble mon code : s4\p\<=20 \once \override DynamicText #'extra-offset =3D #'(7.0 . 0) s4\ffff=20 =20 Comment faire pour quoi le crescendo se prolonge jusqu'au nouvel emplacemen= t du \ffff (sans bouger son point de d=C3=A9part)? J'ai tent=C3=A9 \override DynamicLineSpanner #'X-extent =3D #'(7.0 . 0.0) avant le code ci-dessus, ma= is ce n'est visiblement pas la bonne fa=C3=A7on de faire. Philippe -- View this message in context: http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabbl= e.com/Nuance-en-fin-de-mesure-tp7149528p7151502.html Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Jan 05 18:32:17 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1RiwnB-00006q-6A for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2012 18:32:17 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:37703) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Riwn8-00005d-JA for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2012 18:32:15 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Riwn7-00029B-JB for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2012 18:32:14 -0500 Received: from sam.nabble.com ([216.139.236.26]:60277) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Riwn7-000290-Fa for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2012 18:32:13 -0500 Received: from jim.nabble.com ([192.168.236.80]) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Riwn4-0002Wu-Ur for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2012 15:32:10 -0800 Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2012 15:32:10 -0800 (PST) From: Jean-Christophe D To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Message-ID: <1325806330949-7156610.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <1325703063358-7151502.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1325662497338-7149528.post@n2.nabble.com> <1325683649251-7150398.post@n2.nabble.com> <1325703063358-7151502.post@n2.nabble.com> Subject: Re: Nuance en fin de mesure MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 216.139.236.26 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2012 23:32:15 -0000 flup wrote >=20 > L'indication \override DynamicText #'extra-offset fonctionne mais, du > coup, seule la nuance a boug=C3=A9 (au bon endroit, certes), mais pas le > crescendo graphique qui y m=C3=A8ne. >=20 J'ai l'impression que \override DynamicText #'extra-offset n'est pas la solution, car cette instruction d=C3=A9cale */par d=C3=A9finition/* l'objet= concern=C3=A9 ("\ffff") vers la droite, donc forc=C3=A9ment, /l'=C3=A9loigne/ de la fin d= u \< (exemples p.2) Reste l'autre solution : placer le \ffff sur */la fin/* de la derni=C3=A8re= noire (dern. dbl-croche ou plus petit encore)... (ex.p.1) Voire sur le temps... suivant, avec un X-offset n=C3=A9gatif...! mais l=C3= =A0; faut raccourcir le soufflet, et la barre finale est en retrait sur la marge (cause derni=C3=A8re mesure invisible...) (p.3) Rien de bien propre... en fin de compte. Jean-Christophe http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabble.com/file/n7156610/TEST2.ly TEST2.ly=20 -- View this message in context: http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabbl= e.com/Nuance-en-fin-de-mesure-tp7149528p7156610.html Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From MAILER-DAEMON Sat Jan 07 12:16:36 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1RjZsi-0005dD-8b for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2012 12:16:36 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:59007) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RjZse-0005c3-UF for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2012 12:16:33 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RjZsd-0003P8-Vh for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2012 12:16:32 -0500 Received: from smtp04.osg.ufl.edu ([128.227.74.71]:59434 helo=smtp.ufl.edu) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RjZsd-0003P4-P0 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2012 12:16:31 -0500 Received: from new-host.home (APuteaux-652-1-99-65.w90-2.abo.wanadoo.fr [90.2.26.65]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.ufl.edu (8.14.0/8.14.0/3.0.0) with ESMTP id q07HGSIc025253 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 7 Jan 2012 12:16:30 -0500 From: "mike@apollinemike.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Garder_toutes_les_nuances_dans_le_m=EAme_DynamicL?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?ineSpanner?= Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 18:16:27 +0100 Message-Id: To: lilypondeurs FR Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.5.7110, 1.0.211, 0.0.0000 definitions=2012-01-07_06:2012-01-06, 2012-01-07, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 bulkscore=2 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1201070175 X-UFL-Spam-Level: * X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 128.227.74.71 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2012 17:16:33 -0000 Bonsoir, Connaissez-vous un moyen de garder toutes les nuances dans un document = dans le m=EAme DynamicLineSpanner ? Avec la configuration normale de = LilyPond, le Dynamic_align_engraver cr=E9e un nouveau DynamicLineSpanner = =E0 chaque fois qu'une nuance arrive qui n'est pas suivie par soit un = crescendo soit decrescendo. Merci ! ~Mike= From MAILER-DAEMON Sat Jan 07 12:34:01 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1Rja9Z-00085C-Or for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2012 12:34:01 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:52062) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rja9X-000822-4u for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2012 12:34:00 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rja9V-0006Us-By for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2012 12:33:59 -0500 Received: from mail-pw0-f41.google.com ([209.85.160.41]:33590) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rja9V-0006Ul-7H for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2012 12:33:57 -0500 Received: by pbdd2 with SMTP id d2so2201378pbd.0 for ; Sat, 07 Jan 2012 09:33:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=LkNMg7AlU4BVElDLcRE+m6o6TYSUp1k1z8YO0/6LKkM=; b=pDaUeXWmXNdcgzX3kUqCNXO7ozB+NDTOk1eCveRVXBkXdrH4e4dxi5/0Tizc4X3g01 HLYjfda19Vr5Ym5fV4oNtZHvjZi3dSeoxMoFN/m5vjQKrnEwJOy4na8dYw5/3fXt5MLS Sa5m8SqLTPgycs/Iv229wWgn8whtjVW7cIMXQ= Received: by 10.68.72.230 with SMTP id g6mr25627804pbv.119.1325957634367; Sat, 07 Jan 2012 09:33:54 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.58.21 with HTTP; Sat, 7 Jan 2012 09:33:33 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: Xavier Scheuer Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 18:33:33 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re=3A_Garder_toutes_les_nuances_dans_le_m=C3=AAme_DynamicL?= =?UTF-8?Q?ineSpanner?= To: "mike@apollinemike.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 209.85.160.41 Cc: lilypondeurs FR X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2012 17:34:00 -0000 2012/1/7 mike@apollinemike.com : > Bonsoir, > > Connaissez-vous un moyen de garder toutes les nuances dans un document > dans le m=C3=AAme DynamicLineSpanner ? Avec la configuration normale de > LilyPond, le Dynamic_align_engraver cr=C3=A9e un nouveau DynamicLineSpann= er > =C3=A0 chaque fois qu'une nuance arrive qui n'est pas suivie par soit un > crescendo soit decrescendo. Bonsoir Mike, Amusant de voir le grand d=C3=A9veloppeur (qui r=C3=A8gle tant de probl=C3= =A8mes des utilisateurs) venir poser ses questions =C3=A0 ces utilisateurs. :-D Voici deux propositions, avec des avantages et inconv=C3=A9nients propres : 1. Utiliser un contexte Dynamics (\new Dynamics , puis utiliser des silences invisibles et les nuances, cela fonctionne du tonnerre, surtout depuis que tu as corrig=C3=A9 certains bugs !). ;-) 2. Dans la doc, NR 1.3.1 Signes d=E2=80=99interpr=C3=A9tation attach=C3=A9s= =C3=A0 des notes > Nuances il y a un snippet "Alignement vertical des nuances [et] indications textuelles". Ils utilisent (pour les nuances) \override DynamicLineSpanner #'staff-padding =3D #2.0 \override DynamicLineSpanner #'Y-extent =3D #'(-1.5 . 1.5) http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/notation/expressive-marks-attac= hed-to-notes.fr.html#dynamics Cordialement, Xavier --=20 Xavier Scheuer From MAILER-DAEMON Sat Jan 07 13:26:51 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1Rjayh-0001OO-U0 for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2012 13:26:51 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:47072) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rjayf-0001Mz-9u for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2012 13:26:50 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rjayd-0004sz-SV for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2012 13:26:49 -0500 Received: from smtp02.osg.ufl.edu ([128.227.74.165]:37450 helo=smtp.ufl.edu) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rjayd-0004sv-La for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2012 13:26:47 -0500 Received: from new-host.home (APuteaux-652-1-99-65.w90-2.abo.wanadoo.fr [90.2.26.65]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.ufl.edu (8.14.0/8.14.0/3.0.0) with ESMTP id q07IQfUQ029946 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Sat, 7 Jan 2012 13:26:44 -0500 Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re=3A_Garder_toutes_les_nuances_dans_le_m=EAme_Dy?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?namicLineSpanner?= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 From: "mike@apollinemike.com" In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 19:26:38 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <5C04AB65-A7BE-4257-AB69-A5F76A8EE0A2@apollinemike.com> References: To: Xavier Scheuer X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.5.7110, 1.0.211, 0.0.0000 definitions=2012-01-07_07:2012-01-06, 2012-01-07, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1201070198 X-UFL-Spam-Level: * X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 128.227.74.165 Cc: lilypondeurs FR X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2012 18:26:50 -0000 On Jan 7, 2012, at 6:33 PM, Xavier Scheuer wrote: > 2012/1/7 mike@apollinemike.com : >> Bonsoir, >>=20 >> Connaissez-vous un moyen de garder toutes les nuances dans un = document >> dans le m=EAme DynamicLineSpanner ? Avec la configuration normale de >> LilyPond, le Dynamic_align_engraver cr=E9e un nouveau = DynamicLineSpanner >> =E0 chaque fois qu'une nuance arrive qui n'est pas suivie par soit un >> crescendo soit decrescendo. >=20 > Bonsoir Mike, >=20 > 1. Utiliser un contexte Dynamics (\new Dynamics , puis utiliser des > silences invisibles et les nuances, cela fonctionne du tonnerre, = surtout > depuis que tu as corrig=E9 certains bugs !). ;-) >=20 > 2. Dans la doc, NR 1.3.1 Signes d=92interpr=E9tation attach=E9s =E0 = des notes >> Nuances il y a un snippet "Alignement vertical des nuances [et] > indications textuelles". Ils utilisent (pour les nuances) >=20 > \override DynamicLineSpanner #'staff-padding =3D #2.0 > \override DynamicLineSpanner #'Y-extent =3D #'(-1.5 . 1.5) >=20 Les deux solutions marchent impeccablement - merci ! ~Mike From MAILER-DAEMON Sat Jan 07 14:32:42 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1Rjc0Q-0004Ky-DY for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2012 14:32:42 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:37215) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rjc0O-0004Ks-KI for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2012 14:32:41 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rjc0N-0005pK-Lt for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2012 14:32:40 -0500 Received: from mail-wi0-f169.google.com ([209.85.212.169]:54092) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rjc0N-0005pG-Gj for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2012 14:32:39 -0500 Received: by wibhq12 with SMTP id hq12so2601727wib.0 for ; Sat, 07 Jan 2012 11:32:38 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:date:from:reply-to:to:references:subject:message-id:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=3FCGQ9rGmvYbpnHlFCW9MJmni2WAnTZbnePq0k1dWxA=; b=yDXeNn39uwwOy2ZdZH0aI+yVOQXnGNXj3n/Giowwowj7+g2NzDBp6h52B1BZDHylPK UP//wPKXSKUHTyELh99YNBg8weWUZ8+tz2tShYy7ibQ/un8WJtOyD/Ssgj+GS9bNaxNl r6Mu2uQCPpRm00fvcLu1b9B+qymu8DR455f3A= Received: by 10.180.19.42 with SMTP id b10mr4251985wie.13.1325964757198; Sat, 07 Jan 2012 11:32:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from domicile (ptrb-178-51-110-110.mobistar.be. 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MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 216.139.236.26 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2012 08:16:23 -0000 Bonjour =C3=A0 tous, j'ai le code suivant pour cr=C3=A9er le nolet repr=C3=A9sent=C3=A9 dans le = premier fichier joint : r32 \once \override TupletNumber #'text =3D #(tuplet-number::non-default-fraction-with-notes 3 "16" 7 "32") \once \override TupletBracket #'direction =3D #-1 \once \override TupletBracket #'bracket-visibility =3D ##t \times 7/3 { 16*1/2 [ c8*1/2 ] } Comme vous le voyez, c'est tr=C3=A8s moche =C3=A0 cause du peu de place lai= ss=C3=A9 pour le TupletNumber. D'habitude dans cette configuration j'utilise l'expression suivante pour agrandir l=C3=A9g=C3=A8rement : \once \override TupletBracket #'control-points =3D #'( ( -1 . -3.5) ( 7.5 . -3.25) ) Seulement l=C3=A0, je suis coinc=C3=A9 avec le huiti=C3=A8me de soupir qui = ne me permet pas de me d=C3=A9caler vers la gauche. Mon esprit f=C3=A9cond s'est alors dit, "bon sang mais c'est bien sur, il s= uffit de faire un \once \override NoteColumn #'X-offset =3D #4 avant le do et c'e= st gagn=C3=A9". Perdu, parce que seul ce foutu do se d=C3=A9place (bon franche= ment je m'en doutais un poil...) comme repr=C3=A9sent=C3=A9 dans le deuxi=C3=A8me f= ichier joint... Donc je sollicite votre aide pour augmenter un chouilla l'espacement entre le huiti=C3=A8me de soupir et l'accord et augmenter l'espacement entre l'a= ccord et la do pour laisser la place pour l'indication du TupletNumber... Bien =C3=A9videmment tout le reste doit bouger en fonction de fa=C3=A7on =C3=A0 = laisser plac=C3=A9s logiquement l'indication de m=C3=A9trique au-dessus et les notes de la main gauche... J'esp=C3=A8re avoir =C3=A9t=C3=A9 clair. Merci d'avance pour votre aide. Cdlt. Damien http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabble.com/file/n7164206/Exemple_No= let_Lilypond_001.jpg=20 http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabble.com/file/n7164206/Exemple_No= let_Lilypond_002.jpg=20 -- View this message in context: http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabbl= e.com/Espacer-les-notes-au-sein-d-un-seul-nolet-tp7164206p7164206.html Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From MAILER-DAEMON Tue Jan 10 04:55:43 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1RkYQh-0005Aa-SJ for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 04:55:43 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:48109) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RkYQb-0005A1-Ek for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 04:55:42 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RkYQa-0008Rq-Eo for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 04:55:37 -0500 Received: from sam.nabble.com ([216.139.236.26]:33569) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RkYQa-0008Rm-9q for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 04:55:36 -0500 Received: from jim.nabble.com ([192.168.236.80]) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RkYQZ-0002fO-MO for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 01:55:35 -0800 Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 01:55:35 -0800 (PST) From: Celano To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Message-ID: <1326189335673-7171449.post@n2.nabble.com> Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Port=C3=A9e_vide_pour_compl=C3=A9ter_manuellement?= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 216.139.236.26 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 09:55:43 -0000 Bonjour, j'ai copi=C3=A9 une partition, et je dois rajouter une port=C3=A9e vide pou= r compl=C3=A9ter =C3=A0 la main dans un premier temps, en vue de le faire avec lilypond plus= tard. Pour le moment, je n'arrive qu'=C3=A0 faire appara=C3=AEtre la cl=C3=A9 au = d=C3=A9but, qui dispara=C3=AFt par la suite. Comment faire pour que la port=C3=A9e apparaisse quoi qu'il en soit? -- View this message in context: http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabbl= e.com/Portee-vide-pour-completer-manuellement-tp7171449p7171449.html Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From MAILER-DAEMON Tue Jan 10 05:08:30 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1RkYd4-0007oq-0d for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 05:08:30 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:59358) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RkYcw-0007oX-Ul for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 05:08:28 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RkYcr-0001cd-2E for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 05:08:22 -0500 Received: from sam.nabble.com ([216.139.236.26]:34557) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RkYcq-0001cK-UU for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 05:08:17 -0500 Received: from jim.nabble.com ([192.168.236.80]) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RkYcp-0004Ok-5c for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 02:08:15 -0800 Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 02:08:15 -0800 (PST) From: bameylan To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Message-ID: <1326190095153-7171495.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <1326189335673-7171449.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1326189335673-7171449.post@n2.nabble.com> Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re:_Port=C3=A9e_vide_pour_compl=C3=A9ter_manuellement?= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 216.139.236.26 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 10:08:28 -0000 Ceci?: emptyStaffPart = \new Staff { \override Staff.Barline #'stencil = ##f %\override Staff.Clef #'stencil = ##f (clef ou non) \emptyStaff } Bernard -- View this message in context: http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabble.com/Portee-vide-pour-completer-manuellement-tp7171449p7171495.html Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From MAILER-DAEMON Tue Jan 10 06:15:05 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1RkZfV-0004Jo-Q3 for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 06:15:05 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:57160) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RkZfO-0004CU-K6 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 06:15:04 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RkZfN-0004P3-1N for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 06:14:58 -0500 Received: from sam.nabble.com ([216.139.236.26]:39634) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RkZfM-0004Ol-Tr for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 06:14:57 -0500 Received: from jim.nabble.com ([192.168.236.80]) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RkZfL-0003cJ-Rd for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 03:14:55 -0800 Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 03:14:55 -0800 (PST) From: Celano To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Message-ID: <1326194095849-7171651.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <1326190095153-7171495.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1326189335673-7171449.post@n2.nabble.com> <1326190095153-7171495.post@n2.nabble.com> Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re:_Port=C3=A9e_vide_pour_compl=C3=A9ter_manuellement?= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_172785_424181.1326194095850" X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 216.139.236.26 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 11:15:04 -0000 ------=_Part_172785_424181.1326194095850 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable bameylan wrote >=20 > \override Staff.Barline #'stencil =3D ##f >=20 Si je ne me trompe pas, =C3=A7a permet d'enlever les barres de mesure ? Mai= s ce que j'aimerais, c'est faire appara=C3=AEtre la port=C3=A9e =C3=A0 tout prix= , m=C3=AAme sans notes, jusqu'=C3=A0 la fin du conducteur: une port=C3=A9e vierge pour =C3= =A9crire les diminutions =C3=A0 la main. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabbl= e.com/Portee-vide-pour-completer-manuellement-tp7171449p7171651.html Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ------=_Part_172785_424181.1326194095850 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
bameylan wrote
\override Staff.Barline #'stencil =3D ##f
Si je ne me trompe pas, =C3=A7a permet d'enlever les barres de mesure ? Mai= s ce que j'aimerais, c'est faire appara=C3=AEtre la port=C3=A9e =C3=A0 tout= prix, m=C3=AAme sans notes, jusqu'=C3=A0 la fin du conducteur: une port=C3= =A9e vierge pour =C3=A9crire les diminutions =C3=A0 la main. =09
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------=_Part_172785_424181.1326194095850-- From MAILER-DAEMON Tue Jan 10 06:26:55 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1RkZqx-00076Z-Ha for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 06:26:55 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:33423) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RkZqr-00076H-0B for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 06:26:54 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RkZqp-0006H5-MR for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 06:26:48 -0500 Received: from mail-pw0-f41.google.com ([209.85.160.41]:42427) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RkZqp-0006Gs-Hs for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 06:26:47 -0500 Received: by pbdd2 with SMTP id d2so3780589pbd.0 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 03:26:46 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=c/WzBcw+i69ufjfI/IClyahvqxlxzyVQwnikRpLQ9nQ=; b=k7dw18TooE7b3WuT/zzUlkI//SUBlsKjMFueL9To1ChPeFvDZi+LRHLkQ7X5B3AbYR Q6XH2sOnFKCeuAQpX4cME1s3PAXex5j3xpVAyjDyBz/YV0uajaroQAzBBUUAMY5wz/Pv l/RRhGah4ynMl2KmaBngKJkY9cHQQVlIz9Yns= Received: by 10.68.117.45 with SMTP id kb13mr38323440pbb.68.1326194806336; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 03:26:46 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.241.8 with HTTP; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 03:26:25 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1326194095849-7171651.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1326189335673-7171449.post@n2.nabble.com> <1326190095153-7171495.post@n2.nabble.com> <1326194095849-7171651.post@n2.nabble.com> From: Xavier Scheuer Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 12:26:25 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re=3A_Port=C3=A9e_vide_pour_compl=C3=A9ter_manuellement?= To: Celano Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 209.85.160.41 Cc: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 11:26:54 -0000 2012/1/10 Celano : > > Si je ne me trompe pas, =C3=A7a permet d'enlever les barres de mesure ? M= ais ce > que j'aimerais, c'est faire appara=C3=AEtre la port=C3=A9e =C3=A0 tout pr= ix, m=C3=AAme sans > notes, jusqu'=C3=A0 la fin du conducteur: une port=C3=A9e vierge pour =C3= =A9crire les > diminutions =C3=A0 la main. Il faut conserver le contexte Staff actif, par exemple en y mettant une voix contenant des silences invisibles pendant toute la dur=C3=A9e du morceau. C'est expliqu=C3=A9 dans le manuel de notation, NR 5.1.3 Conservation d=E2=80=99un contexte http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/notation/keeping-contexts-alive "skip-of-length" peut =C3=AAtre utile, cf. (2.14) NR 1.2.6 Fonctionnalit=C3=A9s rythmiques particuli=C3=A8res > Aligne= ment et cadences http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.14/Documentation/notation/special-rhythmic-conce= rns#aligning-to-cadenzas (2.15) NR 1.2.6 Fonctionnalit=C3=A9s rythmiques particuli=C3=A8res > Aligne= ment et cadences http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/notation/special-rhythmic-conce= rns#aligning-to-cadenzas Cordialement, Xavier --=20 Xavier Scheuer From MAILER-DAEMON Tue Jan 10 07:11:57 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1RkaYX-0007LF-CD for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 07:11:57 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:47322) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RkaYQ-0006zx-EC for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 07:11:55 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RkaYK-0005m0-CA for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 07:11:50 -0500 Received: from sam.nabble.com ([216.139.236.26]:45752) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RkaYK-0005lH-6W for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 07:11:44 -0500 Received: from jim.nabble.com ([192.168.236.80]) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RkaYD-0003Bq-MG for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 04:11:37 -0800 Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 04:11:37 -0800 (PST) From: bameylan To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Message-ID: <1326197497681-7171792.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: References: <1326189335673-7171449.post@n2.nabble.com> <1326190095153-7171495.post@n2.nabble.com> <1326194095849-7171651.post@n2.nabble.com> Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re:_Port=C3=A9e_vide_pour_compl=C3=A9ter_manuellement?= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 216.139.236.26 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 12:11:56 -0000 Je ne sais pas si ce qui va suivre te sera utile: sopranoVoiceIPart =3D \new Staff \with {\override StaffSymbol #'thickness = =3D #1.5 } { \clef soprano \sopranoVoiceI } \addlyrics { \verseSopranoVoiceI } sopranoVoiceIIPart =3D \new Staff \with {\override StaffSymbol #'thickness = =3D #1.5 \consists "Mark_engraver" } { \clef soprano \sopranoVoiceII } \addlyrics { \verseSopranoVoiceII } emptyStaffPart =3D \new Staff { \override Staff.Barline #'stencil =3D ##f %\override Staff.Clef #'stencil =3D ##f \emptyStaff=20 } =20 celloPart =3D \new Staff \with {\override StaffSymbol #'thickness =3D #1.5 \consists "Mark_engraver"} { \clef bass \cello } \score { << \sopranoVoiceIPart \sopranoVoiceIIPart \emptyStaffPart \celloPart >> plac=C3=A9 juste avant le \layout, il me donne une port=C3=A9e vide, barres= de mesures comprises, qui tient compte de tous les changements de m=C3=A9trique. S'il = s'agit de diminutions =C3=A0 placer, comme c'est un exercice assez gourmand en esp= ace horizontal, on peut supprimer les barres de mesures afin de pouvoir tricher un peu avec l'espace. Bernard -- View this message in context: http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabbl= e.com/Portee-vide-pour-completer-manuellement-tp7171449p7171792.html Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From MAILER-DAEMON Tue Jan 10 17:10:13 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1RkjtV-0000AD-2v for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 17:10:13 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:34447) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RkjtS-0000A6-DC for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 17:10:11 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RkjtR-0003RH-9h for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 17:10:10 -0500 Received: from sam.nabble.com ([216.139.236.26]:55542) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RkjtR-0003Qq-4c for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 17:10:09 -0500 Received: from jim.nabble.com ([192.168.236.80]) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RkjtP-0002Tl-WA for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 14:10:08 -0800 Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 14:10:07 -0800 (PST) From: Celano To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Message-ID: <1326233407972-7174039.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: References: <1326189335673-7171449.post@n2.nabble.com> <1326190095153-7171495.post@n2.nabble.com> <1326194095849-7171651.post@n2.nabble.com> Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re:_Port=C3=A9e_vide_pour_compl=C3=A9ter_manuellement?= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 216.139.236.26 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 22:10:11 -0000 Xavier Scheuer wrote >=20 > Il faut conserver le contexte Staff actif, par exemple en y mettant > une voix contenant des silences invisibles pendant toute la dur=C3=A9e du > morceau. Merci =C3=A0 tous pour votre aide. Xavier, j'arrive =C3=A0 mettre la voix e= n parall=C3=A8le, mais un probl=C3=A8me est survenu: impossible de mettre la = cl=C3=A9 de fa pour la derni=C3=A8re voix... Comment =C3=A7a se fait ? Je mets en pi=C3=A8= ce-jointe =20 http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabble.com/file/n7174039/retest.pdf retest.pdf et=20 http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabble.com/file/n7174039/retest.ly retest.ly . -- View this message in context: http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabbl= e.com/Portee-vide-pour-completer-manuellement-tp7171449p7174039.html Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From MAILER-DAEMON Tue Jan 10 17:15:51 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1Rkjyx-0000nJ-7W for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 17:15:51 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:59334) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rkjyu-0000mh-OO for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 17:15:49 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rkjyt-0004L4-Ml for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 17:15:48 -0500 Received: from smtp2-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.2]:36243) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rkjys-0004Kv-Tl for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 17:15:47 -0500 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [82.238.183.78]) by smtp2-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59ECD4B0069 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 23:15:40 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4F0CB88F.8040002@laposte.net> Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 23:15:43 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?C=E9cile_Huneau?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Subject: Re: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Port=E9e_vide_pour_compl=E9ter_manuel?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?lement?= References: <1326189335673-7171449.post@n2.nabble.com> <1326190095153-7171495.post@n2.nabble.com> <1326194095849-7171651.post@n2.nabble.com> <1326233407972-7174039.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <1326233407972-7174039.post@n2.nabble.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 120110-1, 10/01/2012), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 212.27.42.2 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 22:15:49 -0000 Bonsoir, Petite erreur d'inattention je pense : tu as d=E9fini la clef dans la=20 variable musicDPart et pour la g=E9n=E9ration de la partition tu utilises= =20 musicD ;-) Bonne soir=E9e ! C=E9cile Le 10/01/2012 23:10, Celano a =E9crit : > Xavier Scheuer wrote >> Il faut conserver le contexte Staff actif, par exemple en y mettant >> une voix contenant des silences invisibles pendant toute la dur=E9e du >> morceau. > Merci =E0 tous pour votre aide. Xavier, j'arrive =E0 mettre la voix en > parall=E8le, mais un probl=E8me est survenu: impossible de mettre la cl= =E9 de fa > pour la derni=E8re voix... Comment =E7a se fait ? Je mets en pi=E8ce-jo= inte > http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabble.com/file/n7174039/retest= .pdf > retest.pdf et > http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabble.com/file/n7174039/retest= .ly > retest.ly . > > -- > View this message in context: http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.n= abble.com/Portee-vide-pour-completer-manuellement-tp7171449p7174039.html > Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > liste de diffusion lilypond-user-fr > lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user-fr > From MAILER-DAEMON Wed Jan 11 08:18:58 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1Rky4w-0002Y7-1X for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Jan 2012 08:18:58 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:44230) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rky4s-0002W5-Rp for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Jan 2012 08:18:55 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rky4m-00035H-PO for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Jan 2012 08:18:54 -0500 Received: from smtp1-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.1]:52144) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rky4m-00034q-3M for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Jan 2012 08:18:48 -0500 Received: from [IPv6:2a01:e34:ef32:80c0:224:8cff:fe56:9d45] (unknown [IPv6:2a01:e34:ef32:80c0:224:8cff:fe56:9d45]) by smtp1-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96C70940240 for ; Wed, 11 Jan 2012 14:18:41 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4F0D8C30.1000703@free.fr> Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 14:18:40 +0100 From: moebius User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.24) Gecko/20111108 Thunderbird/3.1.16 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Subject: Re: 2 pages sur une seule References: <4EC7C04C.4080502@free.fr> In-Reply-To: <4EC7C04C.4080502@free.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 212.27.42.1 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 13:18:56 -0000 Bonjour, J'ai enfin la solution. J'avais pos=C3=A9 la question au cr=C3=A9ateur de pdfnup, Andreas Matthia= s, qui=20 semblait ne rien pouvoir faire ; puis, il m'a =C3=A9crit hier pour me don= ner=20 LA solution consistant =C3=A0 dire =C3=A0 pdftex de ne pas utiliser d'aut= res=20 polices que celles du document en lui donnant un mapfile vide. Voici la syntaxe pour ceux qui seraient int=C3=A9ress=C3=A9s : pdfnup --preamble '\pdfmapfile{}' mon-fichier-lilypond.pdf et hop !! cordialement, Le 19/11/2011 15:42, moebius a =C3=A9crit : > Bonjour, > > Je manufacture souvent des partitions comportant deux pages ; > existe-t-il un moyen pour obtenir un pdf de sortie comportant ces deux > pages c=C3=B4te =C3=A0 c=C3=B4te sur une m=C3=AAme feuille A4 en mode p= aysage ? > > Le but : quand j'ins=C3=A8re ma clef usb dans le copieur, je pourrais > imprimer directement ma partition sur une feuille a4, sans avoir besoin > de sortir les deux pages s=C3=A9par=C3=A9ment puis de poser ces deux pa= ges sur la > vitre pour op=C3=A9rer une r=C3=A9duction de a3 vers a4. > > J'ai cherch=C3=A9, cherch=C3=A9, recherch=C3=A9... > > Je m'en remets =C3=A0 votre sagacit=C3=A9 > > cordialement, > > > _______________________________________________ > liste de diffusion lilypond-user-fr > lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user-fr > > From MAILER-DAEMON Wed Jan 11 10:23:47 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1Rl01j-0006yV-Kt for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Jan 2012 10:23:47 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:57012) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rl01h-0006xz-2z for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Jan 2012 10:23:46 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rl01a-0001V4-Ul for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Jan 2012 10:23:45 -0500 Received: from sam.nabble.com ([216.139.236.26]:54514) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rl01a-0001TC-RC for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Jan 2012 10:23:38 -0500 Received: from jim.nabble.com ([192.168.236.80]) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rl01X-0001Ah-UG for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Jan 2012 07:23:35 -0800 Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 07:23:35 -0800 (PST) From: bameylan To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Message-ID: <1326295415915-7176563.post@n2.nabble.com> Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Supprimer_les_port=C3=A9es_vides_un?= =?UTF-8?Q?iquement_pour_un_endroit_d=C3=A9fini?= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 216.139.236.26 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 15:23:46 -0000 Bonjour =C3=A0 tous, est-il possible, au lieu d'ins=C3=A9rer un \context { \Staff \RemoveEmptySt= aves } qui supprime les port=C3=A9es vides pour toute la pi=C3=A8ce, d'ins=C3=A9re= r une commande semblable *=C3=A0 partir d'un certain point jusqu'=C3=A0 un autre point*? 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From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 13 12:45:37 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1RllC5-00071Z-G3 for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Jan 2012 12:45:37 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:47334) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RllBy-00071T-TN for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Jan 2012 12:45:36 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RllBt-0000ig-AF for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Jan 2012 12:45:30 -0500 Received: from smtp3-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.3]:44200) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RllBs-0000iR-R2 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Jan 2012 12:45:25 -0500 Received: from [192.168.0.1] (unknown [82.255.77.42]) by smtp3-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F52EA6798 for ; Fri, 13 Jan 2012 18:45:19 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4F106DAE.9080504@free.fr> Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 18:45:18 +0100 From: Jean-Jacques Gerbaud User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (X11/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Subject: placement de notes et objets Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 212.27.42.3 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 17:45:36 -0000 Bonjour =C3=A0 tous, Un probl=C3=A8me mineur mais dont je ne trouve pas de solution. dans le petit code ci-joint : \version "2.15.19" \paper { ragged-right =3D ##f } << \relative c { =09 \clef "bass" \key c \major c1^\markup \bold {\halign #CENTER {\fontsize #3 "I" }} _\markup \bold {\halign #CENTER "do majeur"} f1^\markup \bold {\halign #-4.5 {\fontsize #3 "IV" }} g1^\markup \bold {\halign #-7 {\fontsize #3 "V" } } c,1^\markup \bold { \halign #-4.5 {\fontsize #3 "I" } } } >> je chercher =C3=A0 faire appara=C3=AEtre les "I", "IV", "V", "I" ainsi q= ue les=20 notes rondes correspondantes au milieu des mesures. La solution est certainement toute simple mais encore faut il savoir=20 laquelle et mes recherches n'ont pas abouti. Un petit coup de main ? --=20 JJG From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 13 19:21:52 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1RlrNY-0005hY-Fw for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Jan 2012 19:21:52 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:56712) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RlrNV-0005h0-Po for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Jan 2012 19:21:50 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RlrNU-0001U5-56 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Jan 2012 19:21:49 -0500 Received: from sam.nabble.com ([216.139.236.26]:50142) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RlrNU-0001Tv-1T for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Jan 2012 19:21:48 -0500 Received: from jim.nabble.com ([192.168.236.80]) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RlrNS-0003s7-QI for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Jan 2012 16:21:46 -0800 Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 16:21:46 -0800 (PST) From: Eluze To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Message-ID: <1326500506788-7186242.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <4F106DAE.9080504@free.fr> References: <4F106DAE.9080504@free.fr> Subject: Re: placement de notes et objets MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 216.139.236.26 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 00:21:50 -0000 Jean-Jacques Gerbaud wrote >=20 > je chercher =C3=A0 faire appara=C3=AEtre les "I", "IV", "V", "I" ainsi q= ue les=20 > notes rondes correspondantes au milieu des mesures. >=20 > La solution est certainement toute simple mais encore faut il savoir=20 > laquelle et mes recherches n'ont pas abouti. >=20 > Un petit coup de main ? >=20 avec % (see LSR 768 for details) textScriptCenterOnNote =3D \override TextScript #'X-offset =3D #(lambda (gr= ob) (let* ((paper-col (ly:grob-parent grob X)) (elts (ly:grob-object paper-col 'elements)) (rhythmic-head (if (ly:grob-array? elts) (let loop ((array-idx 0)) (call/cc (lambda (return) (let ((array-len (ly:grob-array-length elts))) (if (< array-idx (1- array-len)) (let ((elt (ly:grob-array-ref elts array-idx))) (if (grob::has-interface elt =20 'rhythmic-head-interface) (return elt) (loop (1+ array-idx))))) grob)))) grob))) (+ (ly:self-alignment-interface::x-aligned-on-self grob) (interval-center (ly:grob-robust-relative-extent rhythmic-head rhythmic-head X))))) et ensuite=20 \override TextScript #'self-alignment-X =3D #CENTER \textScriptCenterOnNote on parvient =C3=A0 centrer les markup au dessus des notes - pour les mesure= s? Eluze -- View this message in context: http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabbl= e.com/placement-de-notes-et-objets-tp7184847p7186242.html Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 13 20:02:47 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1Rls19-00038F-6w for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Jan 2012 20:02:47 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:47706) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rls16-00036q-1v for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Jan 2012 20:02:45 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rls14-0005ol-UD for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Jan 2012 20:02:44 -0500 Received: from sam.nabble.com ([216.139.236.26]:52781) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rls14-0005oh-Qi for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Jan 2012 20:02:42 -0500 Received: from jim.nabble.com ([192.168.236.80]) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rls13-0008B2-QW for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Jan 2012 17:02:41 -0800 Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 17:02:41 -0800 (PST) From: crep4ever To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Message-ID: <1326502961814-7186355.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <1311856425454-6629674.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1311856425454-6629674.post@n2.nabble.com> Subject: Re: Bug en 2.14 avec make-footer ??? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 216.139.236.26 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 01:02:45 -0000 J'ai eu le m=C3=AAme probl=C3=A8me (lilypond 2.14.2). Le bug (segfault) peu= t =C3=AAtre contourn=C3=A9 en rempla=C3=A7ant make-footer=3D##f par oddFooterMarkup =3D \markup { \fill-line {} } -- View this message in context: http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabbl= e.com/Bug-en-2-14-avec-make-footer-tp6629674p7186355.html Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From MAILER-DAEMON Sat Jan 14 05:18:15 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1Rm0gg-0000bX-Rm for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Jan 2012 05:18:14 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:54059) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rm0ge-0000au-5x for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Jan 2012 05:18:13 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rm0gd-0003Nt-02 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Jan 2012 05:18:12 -0500 Received: from sam.nabble.com ([216.139.236.26]:36084) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rm0gc-0003Nh-QT for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Jan 2012 05:18:10 -0500 Received: from jim.nabble.com ([192.168.236.80]) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rm0gb-0001G3-Sb for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Jan 2012 02:18:09 -0800 Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 02:18:09 -0800 (PST) From: Eluze To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Message-ID: <1326536289878-7187152.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <1326500506788-7186242.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <4F106DAE.9080504@free.fr> <1326500506788-7186242.post@n2.nabble.com> Subject: Re: placement de notes et objets MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 216.139.236.26 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 10:18:13 -0000 Jean-Jacques Gerbaud wrote >=20 > je chercher =C3=A0 faire appara=C3=AEtre les "I", "IV", "V", "I" ainsi q= ue les=20 > notes rondes correspondantes au milieu des mesures. >=20 >=20 on peut centrer les markups sous les mesures en ajoutant une voix consistan= t de /multimeasure rest/. les markups ajout=C3=A9 l=C3=A0 sont automatiquemen= t centr=C3=A9s. << g,1 ^ \markup \bold \fontsize #3 "V" \\ { \once \override MultiMeasureRest #' transparent =3D ##t R1 _ \markup \bold \fontsize #3 "V" } >> Eluze -- View this message in context: http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabbl= e.com/placement-de-notes-et-objets-tp7184847p7187152.html Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From MAILER-DAEMON Sat Jan 14 06:46:32 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1Rm248-0001Ip-Py for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Jan 2012 06:46:32 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:40518) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rm245-0001IP-86 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Jan 2012 06:46:30 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rm244-00069a-3g for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Jan 2012 06:46:29 -0500 Received: from smtp4-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.4]:46404) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rm243-00069H-Dp for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Jan 2012 06:46:28 -0500 Received: from [192.168.0.1] (unknown [82.254.100.231]) by smtp4-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB8724C840D; Sat, 14 Jan 2012 12:46:20 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4F116B0B.8000702@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 12:46:19 +0100 From: JJG User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (X11/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Eluze Subject: Re: placement de notes et objets References: <4F106DAE.9080504@free.fr> <1326500506788-7186242.post@n2.nabble.com> <1326536289878-7187152.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <1326536289878-7187152.post@n2.nabble.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 212.27.42.4 Cc: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 11:46:30 -0000 Eluze a =E9crit : > Jean-Jacques Gerbaud wrote >> je chercher =E0 faire appara=EEtre les "I", "IV", "V", "I" ainsi que = les=20 >> notes rondes correspondantes au milieu des mesures. >> >> > on peut centrer les markups sous les mesures en ajoutant une voix consi= stant > de /multimeasure rest/. les markups ajout=E9 l=E0 sont automatiquement = centr=E9s. >=20 > << > g,1 ^ \markup \bold \fontsize #3 "V" > \\ > { > \once \override MultiMeasureRest #' transparent =3D ##t > R1 _ \markup \bold \fontsize #3 "V" > } > >> >=20 > Eluze >=20 Merci Eluze mais ta r=E9ponse ne correspond pas =E0 ce que je demande ! := -(=20 Celle de ton premier message non plus, d'ailleurs ! Avec la commande "{ \halign #-7} " j'arrive, en modifiant le dernier=20 chiffre, =E0 placer =E0 peu pr=E8s les "V" ou "IV" mais, ce que je veux=20 centrer, ce sont les *notes (rondes)* dans la port=E9e ! Et c'est =E7a que je n'arrive pas =E0 faire ! --=20 JJG From MAILER-DAEMON Sat Jan 14 07:12:42 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1Rm2TS-0003LE-J8 for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Jan 2012 07:12:42 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:55036) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rm2TQ-0003Kk-FI for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Jan 2012 07:12:41 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rm2TP-0001G7-4A for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Jan 2012 07:12:40 -0500 Received: from mail-we0-f169.google.com ([74.125.82.169]:39244) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rm2TO-0001Fj-Rt for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Jan 2012 07:12:39 -0500 Received: by wera13 with SMTP id a13so1262097wer.0 for ; Sat, 14 Jan 2012 04:12:37 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:date:from:reply-to:to:references:subject:message-id:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=T2nzKTDCGSKG3cu/E55LpAW7SVFZpdN6poljdr4GWic=; b=YB/9nkdOpd+IaUfc8+MGIi80CyxNJWK8zAngpBSjfBpItcCdLM1zhCXIKQRzWUTZdc 6+R4YOGBl5BL1U9ujUUZNVL5sxp0TiQ+al2TFw0nqzM4AxGnjOUPCWzjFYMVz2gl4pwp WHuhvWHJjHm0/3RhSgKjs4yJzV9MF5r8DBK0o= Received: by 10.216.132.204 with SMTP id o54mr1998877wei.27.1326543157689; Sat, 14 Jan 2012 04:12:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from domicile (ptrb-178-51-112-12.mobistar.be. [178.51.112.12]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y3sm30316wbn.13.2012.01.14.04.12.36 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 14 Jan 2012 04:12:36 -0800 (PST) Sender: =?UTF-8?Q?Jean=2DFran=C3=A7ois_Lucarelli?= Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 13:12:34 +0100 From: "j-f.lucarelli" To: "Eluze" , "lilypond-user-fr" References: <4F106DAE.9080504@free.fr>, <1326500506788-7186242.post@n2.nabble.com>, <1326536289878-7187152.post@n2.nabble.com> Subject: Re: Re: placement de notes et objets Message-ID: <201201141312326258265@espace-midi.com> X-mailer: Foxmail 6, 15, 201, 22 [cn] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 74.125.82.169 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: j-f.lucarelli@espace-midi.com List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 12:12:41 -0000 PT0gRW4gculwb25zZSBhdSBtZXNzYWdlIGR1IDE0LTAxLTIwMTIsIDExOjE4OjE5ID09DQoNCj4N Cj5KZWFuLUphY3F1ZXMgR2VyYmF1ZCB3cm90ZQ0KPj4gDQo+PiBqZSBjaGVyY2hlciDgIGZhaXJl IGFwcGFyYe50cmUgbGVzICJJIiwgIklWIiwgIlYiLCAiSSIgIGFpbnNpIHF1ZSBsZXMgDQo+PiBu b3RlcyByb25kZXMgY29ycmVzcG9uZGFudGVzIGF1IG1pbGlldSBkZXMgbWVzdXJlcy4NCj4+IA0K Pj4gDQo+b24gcGV1dCBjZW50cmVyIGxlcyBtYXJrdXBzIHNvdXMgbGVzIG1lc3VyZXMgZW4gYWpv dXRhbnQgdW5lIHZvaXggY29uc2lzdGFudA0KPmRlIC9tdWx0aW1lYXN1cmUgcmVzdC8uIGxlcyBt YXJrdXBzIGFqb3V06SBs4CBzb250IGF1dG9tYXRpcXVlbWVudCBjZW50culzLg0KPg0KPiAgPDwN Cj4gICAgZywxIF4gXG1hcmt1cCBcYm9sZCBcZm9udHNpemUgIzMgIlYiDQo+ICAgIFxcDQo+ICAg IHsNCj4gICAgICBcb25jZSBcb3ZlcnJpZGUgTXVsdGlNZWFzdXJlUmVzdCAjJyB0cmFuc3BhcmVu dCA9ICMjdA0KPiAgICAgIFIxIF8gXG1hcmt1cCBcYm9sZCBcZm9udHNpemUgIzMgIlYiDQo+ICAg IH0NCj4gID4+DQo+DQo+RWx1emUNCj4NCkZvcnQgdXRpbGUgY29tbWUgYXN0dWNlLiBFdCBwYXJm b2lzLCBpbCBzZXJhaXQgaW506XJlc3NhbnQgZGUgY2VudHJlciB1bmUgbm90ZSBzdXIgbGEgbWVz dXJlLg0KQWluc2ksIGRhbnMgbCdhY2NvcmQgZmluYWwgZCd1bmUgcGnoY2Ugb/kgZmlndXJlbnQg ZGVzIHNpbGVuY2VzIG11bHRpLW1lc3VyZXMgKGQndW5lIG1lc3VyZSkgZXQgZGVzIG5vdGVzLCBp bCB5IGEgZOljYWxhZ2UgZW50cmUgbGVzIGRldXguIExlcyBwYXJ0aXRpb25zIGNsYXNzaXF1ZXMg bW9udHJlbnQgZGFucyBjZSBjYXMgdW5lIG5vdGUgY2VudHLpZSBzdXIgbGEgbWVzdXJlLg0KDQpN YWlzIGzgLCBjJ2VzdCBtb2lucyDpdmlkZW50Lg0KDQpKZWFuLUZyYW7nb2lzDQo+DQo+DQo+LS0N Cj5WaWV3IHRoaXMgbWVzc2FnZSBpbiBjb250ZXh0OiBodHRwOi8vbGlseXBvbmQtZnJlbmNoLXVz ZXJzLjEyOTg5NjAubjIubmFiYmxlLmNvbS9wbGFjZW1lbnQtZGUtbm90ZXMtZXQtb2JqZXRzLXRw NzE4NDg0N3A3MTg3MTUyLmh0bWwNCj5TZW50IGZyb20gdGhlIExpbHlQb25kIEZyZW5jaCBVc2Vy cyBtYWlsaW5nIGxpc3QgYXJjaGl2ZSBhdCBOYWJibGUuY29tLg0KPg0KPl9fX19fX19fX19fX19f X19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fDQo+bGlzdGUgZGUgZGlmZnVzaW9uIGxp bHlwb25kLXVzZXItZnINCj5saWx5cG9uZC11c2VyLWZyQGdudS5vcmcNCj5odHRwczovL2xpc3Rz LmdudS5vcmcvbWFpbG1hbi9saXN0aW5mby9saWx5cG9uZC11c2VyLWZyDQoNCj09PT09PT09PT09 PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT0NCg== From MAILER-DAEMON Sat Jan 14 18:14:00 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1RmCnQ-0002s9-Av for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Jan 2012 18:14:00 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:39257) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RmCnN-0002q2-Me for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Jan 2012 18:13:58 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RmCnM-0004df-IN for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Jan 2012 18:13:57 -0500 Received: from sam.nabble.com ([216.139.236.26]:46217) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RmCnM-0004dW-9N for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Jan 2012 18:13:56 -0500 Received: from jim.nabble.com ([192.168.236.80]) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RmCnL-0004os-9Z for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Jan 2012 15:13:55 -0800 Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 15:13:55 -0800 (PST) From: Eluze To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Message-ID: <1326582835285-7188598.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <4F116B0B.8000702@gmail.com> References: <4F106DAE.9080504@free.fr> <1326500506788-7186242.post@n2.nabble.com> <1326536289878-7187152.post@n2.nabble.com> <4F116B0B.8000702@gmail.com> Subject: Re: placement de notes et objets MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 216.139.236.26 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 23:13:58 -0000 elviejo wrote >=20 >=20 > Merci Eluze mais ta r=C3=A9ponse ne correspond pas =C3=A0 ce que je deman= de ! :-(=20 > Celle de ton premier message non plus, d'ailleurs ! >=20 > Avec la commande "{ \halign #-7} " j'arrive, en modifiant le dernier=20 > chiffre, =C3=A0 placer =C3=A0 peu pr=C3=A8s les "V" ou "IV" mais, ce que = je veux=20 > centrer, ce sont les *notes (rondes)* dans la port=C3=A9e ! >=20 > Et c'est =C3=A7a que je n'arrive pas =C3=A0 faire ! >=20 justement, c'est ce que je disais: je n'y arrive pas (d'o=C3=B9 ma question= )!=20 une fois que la note est centr=C3=A9e on peut y attacher le markup de l'une= ou de l'autre fa=C3=A7on (automagique)! mais je viens de trouver qc d'int=C3=A9ressant: http://old.nabble.com/center-NoteColumn-td32885663.html#a32885663 bonne chance! Eluze -- View this message in context: http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabbl= e.com/placement-de-notes-et-objets-tp7184847p7188598.html Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. 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X-Received-From: 212.82.109.205 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Jean-Baptiste Dupont List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 21:13:12 -0000 --462688073-2100479783-1326661985=:69989 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bonjour,=0ADans une partition vocale o=F9 il n'est pas n=E9cessaire d'=E9cr= ire les shortInstrumentName =E0 chaque syst=E8me, je souhaiterais utiliser = \RemoveEmptyStaves pour am=E9liorer la lisibilit=E9 (ne pas =E9crire les po= rt=E9es vides pour un syst=E8me). Lorqu'une voix rentre, sa port=E9e s'=E9c= rit. Est-il possible d'=E9crire de quelle voix il s'agit ? Par exemple, si = l'intro n'est que pour les soprani, leur port=E9e est la seule =E0 s'=E9cri= re. Le nom s'=E9crit au premier syst=E8me. Quant une deuxi=E8me voix rentre= , on ne sait pas de qui il s'agit.=0AMerci d'avance de votre aide.=0AJB=0A --462688073-2100479783-1326661985=:69989 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Bonjour,
Dans une partition vocale o=F9 il n'est pas n=E9cessaire d'=E9crire les = shortInstrumentName =E0 chaque syst=E8me, je souhaiterais utiliser \RemoveE= mptyStaves pour am=E9liorer la lisibilit=E9 (ne pas =E9crire les port=E9es = vides pour un syst=E8me). Lorqu'une voix rentre, sa port=E9e s'=E9crit. Est= -il possible d'=E9crire de quelle voix il s'agit ? Par exemple, si l'intro = n'est que pour les soprani, leur port=E9e est la seule =E0 s'=E9crire. Le n= om s'=E9crit au premier syst=E8me. Quant une deuxi=E8me voix rentre, on ne = sait pas de qui il s'agit.
Merci d'avance de votre aide.
JB
--462688073-2100479783-1326661985=:69989-- From MAILER-DAEMON Sun Jan 15 16:28:35 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1RmXcx-0004NE-OZ for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Jan 2012 16:28:35 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:54947) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RmXcu-0004N8-Px for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Jan 2012 16:28:33 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RmXcu-0001V5-0c for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Jan 2012 16:28:32 -0500 Received: from smtp08.smtpout.orange.fr ([80.12.242.130]:27948 helo=smtp.smtpout.orange.fr) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RmXct-0001UJ-SU for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Jan 2012 16:28:31 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.102] ([81.249.191.50]) by mwinf5d15 with ME id MxUT1i00C15hrg103xUTRV; Sun, 15 Jan 2012 22:28:28 +0100 Message-ID: <4F1344E9.90003@cathemline.org> Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 22:28:09 +0100 From: Martial User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jean-Baptiste Dupont Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re=3A_=5CRemoveEmptyStaves_=3A_rappeler_l?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?es_instrumentname_=E0_l=27entr=E9e_des_voix_=3F?= References: <1326661985.69989.YahooMailNeo@web29019.mail.ird.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <1326661985.69989.YahooMailNeo@web29019.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.12.242.130 Cc: "lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org" X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: martial@cathemline.org List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 21:28:34 -0000 il suffit de mettre dans la portée qui entre \set Staff.instrumentName = "lavoixquientre" > Dans une partition vocale où il n'est pas nécessaire d'écrire les > shortInstrumentName à chaque système, je souhaiterais utiliser > \RemoveEmptyStaves pour améliorer la lisibilité (ne pas écrire les > portées vides pour un système). Lorqu'une voix rentre, sa portée > s'écrit. Est-il possible d'écrire de quelle voix il s'agit ? Par > exemple, si l'intro n'est que pour les soprani, leur portée est la seule > à s'écrire. Le nom s'écrit au premier système. Quant une deuxième voix > rentre, on ne sait pas de qui il s'agit. -- Martial From MAILER-DAEMON Sun Jan 15 16:46:05 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1RmXtt-0006BI-Jb for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Jan 2012 16:46:05 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:59154) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RmXtr-0006BA-G1 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Jan 2012 16:46:04 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RmXtq-000411-Ar for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Jan 2012 16:46:03 -0500 Received: from smtp08.smtpout.orange.fr ([80.12.242.130]:35914 helo=smtp.smtpout.orange.fr) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RmXtq-00040e-6V for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Jan 2012 16:46:02 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.102] ([81.249.191.50]) by mwinf5d15 with ME id Mxlz1i00L15hrg103xlzyP; Sun, 15 Jan 2012 22:45:59 +0100 Message-ID: <4F134904.8000602@cathemline.org> Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 22:45:40 +0100 From: Martial User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re=3A_=5CRemoveEmptyStaves_=3A_rappeler_l?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?es_instrumentname_=E0_l=27entr=E9e_des_voix_=3F?= References: <1326661985.69989.YahooMailNeo@web29019.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <4F1344E9.90003@cathemline.org> In-Reply-To: <4F1344E9.90003@cathemline.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.12.242.130 Cc: "lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org" X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 21:46:04 -0000 Oops c'est \set Staff.shortInstrumentName qu'il faut mettre %%------------------------------------------- \score { << \new Staff \relative c'{ \set Staff.instrumentName = "lavoix" \repeat unfold 24 c4 } \new Staff \relative c' { \repeat unfold 5 s1 \break \set Staff.shortInstrumentName = "voix2" g'4 g g g \break \set Staff.shortInstrumentName = "voix3" e e e e } >> \layout { \context { \RemoveEmptyStaffContext \override VerticalAxisGroup #'remove-first = ##t } } } %%------------------------------------------- > il suffit de mettre dans la portée qui entre > \set Staff.instrumentName = "lavoixquientre" -- Martial http://cathemline.org From MAILER-DAEMON Sun Jan 15 16:49:12 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1RmXwu-0006P0-Ln for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Jan 2012 16:49:12 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:59387) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RmXwr-0006Ot-PF for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Jan 2012 16:49:10 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RmXwr-0004Ny-26 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Jan 2012 16:49:09 -0500 Received: from smtp08.smtpout.orange.fr ([80.12.242.130]:21777 helo=smtp.smtpout.orange.fr) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RmXwq-0004Nt-SX for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Jan 2012 16:49:09 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.102] ([81.249.191.50]) by mwinf5d15 with ME id Mxp71i00515hrg103xp7Bs; Sun, 15 Jan 2012 22:49:08 +0100 Message-ID: <4F1349C1.5010302@cathemline.org> Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 22:48:49 +0100 From: Martial User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org" Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re=3A_=5CRemoveEmptyStaves_=3A_rappeler_l?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?es_instrumentname_=E0_l=27entr=E9e_des_voix_=3F?= References: <1326661985.69989.YahooMailNeo@web29019.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <4F1344E9.90003@cathemline.org> <4F134904.8000602@cathemline.org> In-Reply-To: <4F134904.8000602@cathemline.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.12.242.130 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: martial@cathemline.org List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 21:49:10 -0000 > Oops c'est \set Staff.shortInstrumentName qu'il faut mettre puis \set Staff.shortInstrumentName = "" Pour supprimer le nom dans les portées suivantes -- Martial From MAILER-DAEMON Sun Jan 15 17:55:20 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1RmYyu-0004GA-Hd for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Jan 2012 17:55:20 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:46297) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RmYyr-0004G4-PO for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Jan 2012 17:55:18 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RmYyq-0003sR-Hh for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Jan 2012 17:55:17 -0500 Received: from nm6.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([77.238.189.63]:44898) by eggs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RmYyq-0003sN-5h for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Jan 2012 17:55:16 -0500 Received: from [77.238.189.48] by nm6.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Jan 2012 22:55:15 -0000 Received: from [212.82.108.126] by tm1.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Jan 2012 22:55:15 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1035.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Jan 2012 22:55:15 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 194605.89115.bm@omp1035.mail.ird.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 31726 invoked by uid 60001); 15 Jan 2012 22:55:13 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.fr; s=s1024; t=1326668110; bh=gRFjcIUApivcq3W92LMWzWnoNNEtC+PPFXWLefbI1qk=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Owk4lHph7v2Vlpekiy43sGQBSjgEjBsAxVHmFWHIUctX0dA9QYvN2E0JKSCWl8Ivu0HummG6C7OKuiEVoQGprkF1Qk/lp9y3q0mNcKttNKqQASjgidq+7SyfdeDMVkvW3lC/32xOUzuwVAT8OaDgffgUd/+kG58zWbSbqk3PSGQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.fr; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ozHV7vUd4c4VgijVg67AwGJrtGThrZvuBrF7f1x/3RpJwND2ZmIfehJIDZy4KJBqZoGjHQJE/Jou9FoqKDI6Uh788Y1cHBI/XSZFxz+mdJMPjBNTzrTdy7+V2ycsa94//Qu2Q3azgJvAuFn6uhKBJ8NLxdGlgJbdVybC17VDzOw=; X-YMail-OSG: NAiqioUVM1l3vl_BO.v1f4WnxLPTyUP6kh42ELDaZvK.4Tg wyRN7ihphoGNiLwGruYkJRLcJf09AWI2teHzZkEVII2HJSYrnChhGjdtgeUC qLVqvs6c9Y7wdVYrGXYnN0A90Tb24InmKIE5EP_cn.fGs9c_y30lslsQ.MnQ ZiFheLEFBbCSFXcVcDGrcFlIlAtYQgS_I__gA1R8vhkzz5iMeThL0Jo9QWDe V72CohnK.3xnSTwqQ5l93wWyvwRqnYSZkK0YXsbKDujaoPFrfaI52G6gxveE 6j5bYQw_NWZA89LWJdpzR8_HWW7rBTlDHsMUPdU0ZBMlflRHScInOJaNt3qg q_79FaTxt_ytoqvWFpvdo6ds6sMm1wLll3AZEmBYJnYKf8IRd_CvH73oGYIt AEtNATCV9L0CvykTrAUjnb_yUvnxNnQ0- Received: from [88.161.163.143] by web29019.mail.ird.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 15 Jan 2012 22:55:09 GMT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.115.331698 References: <1326661985.69989.YahooMailNeo@web29019.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <4F1344E9.90003@cathemline.org> <4F134904.8000602@cathemline.org> <4F1349C1.5010302@cathemline.org> Message-ID: <1326668109.31397.YahooMailNeo@web29019.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 22:55:09 +0000 (GMT) From: Jean-Baptiste Dupont Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re_=3A_=5CRemoveEmptyStaves_=3A_rappeler_les_instrumentnam?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?e_=E0_l=27entr=E9e_des_voix_=3F?= To: "martial@cathemline.org" , "lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org" In-Reply-To: <4F1349C1.5010302@cathemline.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="462688073-269940979-1326668109=:31397" X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. 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--462688073-269940979-1326668109=:31397-- From MAILER-DAEMON Mon Jan 16 05:49:09 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1Rmk7h-0001Of-TA for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 16 Jan 2012 05:49:09 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:35229) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rmk7a-0001Mr-IU for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 16 Jan 2012 05:49:08 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rmk7U-0002ut-NO for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 16 Jan 2012 05:49:02 -0500 Received: from altern.org ([80.67.174.57]:58436 helo=filer2.altern.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rmk7U-0002n2-Gu for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 16 Jan 2012 05:48:56 -0500 Received: from altern.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by filer2.altern.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19CBB49728B5 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2012 11:17:41 +0100 (CET) Received: from 221.186.242.37 (SquirrelMail authenticated user aladdin) by altern.org with HTTP; Mon, 16 Jan 2012 11:17:41 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <53718.221.186.242.37.1326709061.squirrel@altern.org> Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 11:17:41 +0100 (CET) Subject: Position silence ? From: "Aladdin" To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4-2.6 X-Received-From: 80.67.174.57 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 10:49:08 -0000 Bonjour, Je n'arrive pas =E0 placer le silence sous l'accord... tel represent=E9 s= ur l'image : \version "2.12.3" \include "italiano.ly" { % time 3/4 % Comment avoir le silence sous l'accord ? 2. r4 sol2 } Image : http://imgur.com/h8BUQ http://openetherpad.org/pxcQK3EEPG From MAILER-DAEMON Mon Jan 16 10:06:34 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1Rmo8o-0005PA-L8 for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 16 Jan 2012 10:06:34 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:37683) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rmo8d-0005JR-T7 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 16 Jan 2012 10:06:31 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rmo8c-0005mJ-PD for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 16 Jan 2012 10:06:23 -0500 Received: from sam.nabble.com ([216.139.236.26]:55274) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rmo8c-0005m9-La for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 16 Jan 2012 10:06:22 -0500 Received: from jim.nabble.com ([192.168.236.80]) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rmo8b-0004LB-C8 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 16 Jan 2012 07:06:21 -0800 Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 07:06:21 -0800 (PST) From: Eluze To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Message-ID: <1326726381355-7192809.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <53718.221.186.242.37.1326709061.squirrel@altern.org> References: <53718.221.186.242.37.1326709061.squirrel@altern.org> Subject: Re: Position silence ? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 216.139.236.26 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 15:06:31 -0000 Aladdin wrote >=20 > Bonjour, >=20 > Je n'arrive pas =C3=A0 placer le silence sous l'accord... tel represent= =C3=A9 sur > l'image : >=20 > \version "2.12.3" > \include "italiano.ly" > { > % time 3/4 > % Comment avoir le silence sous l'accord ? > 2. r4 sol2 > } >=20 il s'agit d'une notation polyphonique \language italiano \new Staff << \time 3/4 \clef bass \new Voice \relative do' { \voiceOne 2. } \new Voice \relative do' { \voiceTwo r4 sol2 } >> la version 2.12.3 est d=C3=A9j=C3=A0 bien antiques=E2=80=A6 -- View this message in context: http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabbl= e.com/Position-silence-tp7192091p7192809.html Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From MAILER-DAEMON Wed Jan 18 06:19:41 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1RnTYL-0001w8-Ff for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2012 06:19:41 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:44997) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RnTYE-0001vk-1W for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2012 06:19:40 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RnTY9-0000uF-FQ for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2012 06:19:34 -0500 Received: from blu0-omc4-s33.blu0.hotmail.com ([65.55.111.172]:9445) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RnTY9-0000u5-Bt for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2012 06:19:29 -0500 Received: from BLU0-SMTP75 ([65.55.111.137]) by blu0-omc4-s33.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 18 Jan 2012 03:19:28 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [85.170.148.71] X-Originating-Email: [loic.chahine@hotmail.fr] Message-ID: Received: from MacBook-Pro-de-Loic-Chahine.local ([85.170.148.71]) by BLU0-SMTP75.phx.gbl over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 18 Jan 2012 03:19:27 -0800 Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 12:19:23 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Lo=EFc_Chahine?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Subject: LilyPond et Finale, la question qui tue Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------090109030109060000050805" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Jan 2012 11:19:27.0516 (UTC) FILETIME=[0A5685C0:01CCD5D3] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Windows 2000 SP4, XP SP1+ X-Received-From: 65.55.111.172 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 11:19:40 -0000 --------------090109030109060000050805 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Bonjour à tous ! Ma question est tout à fait indélicate. Moi-même, je ne l'aime pas. Je viens d'être contacté par quelqu'un pour mettre la main à la pâte dans un projet autour d'une partition restée inédite. Ce que nous avons, ce sont des brouillons. Dans ce projet, il y aurait trois niveaux : 1. des personnes qui "saisissent" la musique "au kilomètre", pour faciliter le travail du niveau 3, 2. un relecteur pour corriger les fautes, 3. un orchestrateur, qui sera aussi chargé de compléter ce qui manque (vu que c'est des brouillons...). J'ai été contacté pour le niveau 1. Problème : ces gens travaillent avec Finale. Y a-t-il un moyen d'envoyer une partition de LilyPond dans Finale ? Personnellement, je n'aurais jamais /(jamais !)/ eu une idée aussi piteuse, mais en gros, c'est comme ça ou rien. J'ai dit au responsable que de toute façon pour moi c'est LilyPond ou rien, qu'après ils en font ce qu'ils veulent, mais que pour ma part je ne travaillerai pas avec Finale. Mais le moment était mal choisi (les délais sont très courts et je suis un peu mal placé, hiérarchiquement) pour prosélyter ! Des idées ? Merci d'avance ! L. --------------090109030109060000050805 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bonjour à tous !

Ma question est tout à fait indélicate. Moi-même, je ne l’aime pas. Je viens d’être contacté par quelqu’un pour mettre la main à la pâte dans un projet autour d’une partition restée inédite. Ce que nous avons, ce sont des brouillons.
Dans ce projet, il y aurait trois niveaux :
1. des personnes qui “saisissent” la musique “au kilomètre”, pour faciliter le travail du niveau 3,
2. un relecteur pour corriger les fautes,
3. un orchestrateur, qui sera aussi chargé de compléter ce qui manque (vu que c’est des brouillons…).
J’ai été contacté pour le niveau 1. Problème : ces gens travaillent avec Finale. Y a-t-il un moyen d’envoyer une partition de LilyPond dans Finale ?
Personnellement, je n’aurais jamais (jamais !) eu une idée aussi piteuse, mais en gros, c’est comme ça ou rien. J’ai dit au responsable que de toute façon pour moi c’est LilyPond ou rien, qu’après ils en font ce qu’ils veulent, mais que pour ma part je ne travaillerai pas avec Finale. Mais le moment était mal choisi (les délais sont très courts et je suis un peu mal placé, hiérarchiquement) pour prosélyter !

Des idées ? Merci d’avance !
L.
--------------090109030109060000050805-- From MAILER-DAEMON Wed Jan 18 06:29:38 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1RnThy-0003P8-3k for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2012 06:29:38 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:39533) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RnThr-0003P2-I0 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2012 06:29:36 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RnThq-0003VD-AO for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2012 06:29:31 -0500 Received: from sam.nabble.com ([216.139.236.26]:39211) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RnThq-0003Uv-6n for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2012 06:29:30 -0500 Received: from jim.nabble.com ([192.168.236.80]) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RnThn-0002nC-CC for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2012 03:29:27 -0800 Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 03:29:27 -0800 (PST) From: bameylan To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Message-ID: <1326886167350-7199840.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: LilyPond et Finale, la question qui tue MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 216.139.236.26 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 11:29:37 -0000 =C3=87a sent le travail b=C3=A2cl=C3=A9 =C3=A0 tous les =C3=A9tages... Mais pour ce qui est de l'import LilyPond -> Finale, tu oublies. Le seul chemin possible =C3=A9tant de faire la saisie dans LilyPond, d'exporter le fichier .ly en .musicxml et =C3=A0 ma connaissance cela n'existe pas... Pour mettre un peu de liant et quand m=C3=AAme conserver ce travail, pourqu= oi ne pas travailler avec MuseScore (tr=C3=A8s bon logiciel) et faire l'export en .musicxml, ce qui est possible...? Bernard -- View this message in context: http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabbl= e.com/LilyPond-et-Finale-la-question-qui-tue-tp7199817p7199840.html Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From MAILER-DAEMON Wed Jan 18 08:30:52 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1RnVbI-0006qq-NS for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2012 08:30:52 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:45166) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RnVb7-0006p7-5F for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2012 08:30:50 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RnVb5-000373-VZ for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2012 08:30:41 -0500 Received: from sam.nabble.com ([216.139.236.26]:51060) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RnVb5-00036p-Rs for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2012 08:30:39 -0500 Received: from jim.nabble.com ([192.168.236.80]) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RnVb3-0008Sc-82 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2012 05:30:37 -0800 Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 05:30:37 -0800 (PST) From: Jean-Christophe D To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Message-ID: <1326893437213-7200134.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <1326886167350-7199840.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1326886167350-7199840.post@n2.nabble.com> Subject: Re: LilyPond et Finale, la question qui tue MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 216.139.236.26 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 13:30:50 -0000 bameylan wrote >=20 > Mais pour ce qui est de l'import LilyPond -> Finale, tu oublies. Le seul > chemin possible =C3=A9tant de faire la saisie dans LilyPond, d'exporter l= e > fichier .ly en .musicxml et =C3=A0 ma connaissance cela n'existe pas... >=20 Que nenni !!!!!=20 Finale exporte tr=C3=A8s bien vers musicXML, que LilyPond sait importer... = J'ai r=C3=A9cup=C3=A9r=C3=A9 comme cela une partition... L'outil concern=C3=A9 n'est pas dans le menu Fichier (enreg.sous ou exporte= r), mais dans le menu Plugin (dans la vieille version que j'ai, v4 je crois), puis "MusicXML export Light". Sinon il y a =C3=A9galement "etf2ly" apr=C3=A8s avoir "enregistr=C3=A9 sous= " format .etf mais cela semle "abominable" de l'avis d'une connaissance ayant essay=C3=A9= ... Bon courage, Jean-Christophe -- View this message in context: http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabbl= e.com/LilyPond-et-Finale-la-question-qui-tue-tp7199817p7200134.html Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From MAILER-DAEMON Wed Jan 18 09:45:16 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1RnWlI-0002Ft-3b for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2012 09:45:16 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:39177) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RnWl1-0000bS-HO for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2012 09:45:14 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RnWk8-00085p-HH for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2012 09:44:39 -0500 Received: from sam.nabble.com ([216.139.236.26]:58835) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RnWk8-0007vh-Dp for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2012 09:44:04 -0500 Received: from jim.nabble.com ([192.168.236.80]) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RnWij-0000XA-T4 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2012 06:42:37 -0800 Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 06:42:37 -0800 (PST) From: JeanPi To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Message-ID: <1326897757888-7200319.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <1326893437213-7200134.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1326886167350-7199840.post@n2.nabble.com> <1326893437213-7200134.post@n2.nabble.com> Subject: Re: LilyPond et Finale, la question qui tue MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 216.139.236.26 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 14:45:14 -0000 Bonjour, Peut-=C3=AAtre en exportant en MIDI la saisie (vu que c'est de la saisie au kilom=C3=A8tre sans fioritures ) puis en l'important dans finale ( Qui doit= au moins savoir lire le MIDI ) . Pas d'autre id=C3=A9e .... ----- Lily Pond et le Jazz=20 -- View this message in context: http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabbl= e.com/LilyPond-et-Finale-la-question-qui-tue-tp7199817p7200319.html Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From MAILER-DAEMON Wed Jan 18 10:25:40 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1RnXOO-0007Qh-DJ for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2012 10:25:40 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:49528) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RnXOG-0007Mr-AS for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2012 10:25:37 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RnXO9-0008M4-8I for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2012 10:25:32 -0500 Received: from sam.nabble.com ([216.139.236.26]:35849) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RnXO8-0008Lj-V2 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2012 10:25:25 -0500 Received: from jim.nabble.com ([192.168.236.80]) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RnXO7-0006VG-HN for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2012 07:25:23 -0800 Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 07:25:23 -0800 (PST) From: bameylan To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Message-ID: <1326900323528-7200451.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <1326893437213-7200134.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1326886167350-7199840.post@n2.nabble.com> <1326893437213-7200134.post@n2.nabble.com> Subject: Re: LilyPond et Finale, la question qui tue MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 216.139.236.26 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 15:25:37 -0000 Jean-Christophe D wrote >=20 > Que nenni !!!!!=20 > Finale exporte tr=C3=A8s bien vers musicXML, que LilyPond sait importer..= . J'ai > r=C3=A9cup=C3=A9r=C3=A9 comme cela une partition... >=20 Oh keusi!!=20 Il ne s'agit pas de la direction Finale -> Lily mais bien du contraire... j'aurais effectivement d=C3=BB parler d'*export* LilyPond -> Finale... et = =C3=A7a, LilyPond n'est pas -pas encore...- capable de le faire. Lire du musicxml, oui, le g=C3=A9n=C3=A9rer, non... J'ai encore test=C3=A9 cet apr=C3=A8s-midi le parcours MuseScore -> musicxm= l -> Finale: tr=C3=A8s concluant! Bernard -- View this message in context: http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabbl= e.com/LilyPond-et-Finale-la-question-qui-tue-tp7199817p7200451.html Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From MAILER-DAEMON Wed Jan 18 10:32:20 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1RnXUq-0000Dr-R5 for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2012 10:32:20 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:48601) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RnXUi-0000DH-3b for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2012 10:32:19 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RnXUd-0001Xy-S9 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2012 10:32:12 -0500 Received: from sam.nabble.com ([216.139.236.26]:36631) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RnXUd-0001Xs-OX for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2012 10:32:07 -0500 Received: from jim.nabble.com ([192.168.236.80]) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RnXUc-0007NM-EF for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2012 07:32:06 -0800 Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 07:32:06 -0800 (PST) From: Jean-Christophe D To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Message-ID: <1326900726434-7200477.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <1326900323528-7200451.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1326886167350-7199840.post@n2.nabble.com> <1326893437213-7200134.post@n2.nabble.com> <1326900323528-7200451.post@n2.nabble.com> Subject: Re: LilyPond et Finale, la question qui tue MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 216.139.236.26 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 15:32:20 -0000 bameylan wrote >=20 > Il ne s'agit pas de la direction Finale -> Lily mais bien du contraire... > j'aurais effectivement d=C3=BB parler d'*export* LilyPond -> Finale... et= =C3=A7a, > LilyPond n'est pas -pas encore...- capable de le faire. Lire du musicxml, > oui, le g=C3=A9n=C3=A9rer, non... >=20 Ouuups, c'est bien moi qui ai mal lu...=20 Mes excuses... J-c -- View this message in context: http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabbl= e.com/LilyPond-et-Finale-la-question-qui-tue-tp7199817p7200477.html Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. 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Effectivement, PDFtoMusic Pro permet de lire en XML une partition faite par un ordinateur (mais pas un PDF scanné, en effet). Et on peut tester : on ne peut lui faire jouer que la première page, et exporter en MusicXML une page à la fois (mais on peut toutes les faire ;) ) Par contre, je me demande ce que vaut le MusicXML résultant, vu que je n'y connais /rien/. Mon idée serait une triche : la plupart de mes partitions vont faire sans doute deux pages A4... je me dis que si je fourre ça sur une page A3, si ça se trouve il en voudra bien comme une seule page. Je teste et je vous réécris. Quelqu'un s'y connait en MusicXML, pour me dire si le fichier résultat est convenable ? Merci d'avance ! L. --------------090308040406070803090705 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bonsoir à tous,
Et merci de vos réponses !
Effectivement, PDFtoMusic Pro permet de lire en XML une partition faite par un ordinateur (mais pas un PDF scanné, en effet). Et on peut tester : on ne peut lui faire jouer que la première page, et exporter en MusicXML une page à la fois (mais on peut toutes les faire ;) )
Par contre, je me demande ce que vaut le MusicXML résultant, vu que je n’y connais rien.
Mon idée serait une triche : la plupart de mes partitions vont faire sans doute deux pages A4… je me dis que si je fourre ça sur une page A3, si ça se trouve il en voudra bien comme une seule page. Je teste et je vous réécris.
Quelqu’un s’y connait en MusicXML, pour me dire si le fichier résultat est convenable ?
Merci d’avance !
L.
--------------090308040406070803090705-- From MAILER-DAEMON Wed Jan 18 13:27:54 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1RnaEk-0001VJ-0v for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2012 13:27:54 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:45963) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RnaEh-0001Ut-1m for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2012 13:27:51 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RnaEd-0000ow-3x for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2012 13:27:51 -0500 Received: from mail-tul01m020-f169.google.com ([209.85.214.169]:65194) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RnaEd-0000oo-0u for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2012 13:27:47 -0500 Received: by obbta7 with SMTP id ta7so5452444obb.0 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2012 10:27:46 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=FgblnqAafb8Hfoih1GEr56c22sZabfVgKgIalLVbypk=; b=FoVNYY+hBH0Jzf2hyWW2Ymq/6quRjvdKYtUNUcuH+5yl8Ba1BUCYjOFzZOpNp2Y1Sg yEUC6bieOytuF0iEX6Unlcrfof9THfLIVJO4KAFRnzUJSPlcQ9mZdG8utjGwK4RVMK6s 2DCnveKMvbUj7o4e6jNzl0b+NbhnOZfb4nEm4= Received: by 10.182.59.13 with SMTP id v13mr20079629obq.74.1326911266199; Wed, 18 Jan 2012 10:27:46 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: faurecalixte@gmail.com Received: by 10.182.22.132 with HTTP; Wed, 18 Jan 2012 10:27:25 -0800 (PST) From: Calixte FAURE Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 19:27:25 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: FLxVBVo02TfwGmD8kLbBX27Cddg Message-ID: Subject: Quel logiciel ? To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=14dae93a12e7ab975504b6d19ad0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 209.85.214.169 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 18:27:51 -0000 --14dae93a12e7ab975504b6d19ad0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bonsoir, Je voulais savoir ce que vous utilisiez pour entrer votre musique ? J=E2=80=99ai utilis=C3=A9 Frescobaldi un petit moment, et en r=C3=A9install= ant mon syst=C3=A8me je n=E2=80=99ai pas voulu le r=C3=A9installer (=C3=A9tant sous GNOME, pour =C3= =A9viter les d=C3=A9pendances KDE) Et puis comme je n=E2=80=99avais plus trop besoin de l=E2=80=99interface po= int-clic, j=E2=80=99utilise d=C3=A9sormais Vim, de mani=C3=A8re brute. Alors je pourrais installer Frescobaldi 2, mais je voulais savoir comme vous faisiez, avec un clavier midi, quel logiciel, =E2=80=A6 ? Il n=E2=80=99y a pas de volont=C3=A9 de troll ou d=E2=80=99opposition, just= e par curiosit=C3=A9 :) Merci ! Calixte. --14dae93a12e7ab975504b6d19ad0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bonsoir,

Je voulais savoir ce que vous utilisiez pour entrer votre m= usique ?
J=E2=80=99ai utilis=C3=A9 Frescobaldi un petit moment, et en r= =C3=A9installant mon syst=C3=A8me je n=E2=80=99ai pas voulu le r=C3=A9insta= ller (=C3=A9tant sous GNOME, pour =C3=A9viter les d=C3=A9pendances KDE)
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A= lors je pourrais installer Frescobaldi 2, mais je voulais savoir comme vous= faisiez, avec un clavier midi, quel logiciel, =E2=80=A6 ?

Il n=E2=80=99y a pas de volont=C3=A9 de troll ou d=E2=80=99opposition, = juste par curiosit=C3=A9 :)

Merci !
Calixte.
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Wed, 18 Jan 2012 14:00:52 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:51828) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rnakc-0005Ye-MR for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2012 14:00:51 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RnakX-0006rO-1F for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2012 14:00:50 -0500 Received: from smtp1-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.1]:38918) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RnakW-0006qf-EI for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2012 14:00:45 -0500 Received: from [IPv6:2a01:e34:ef32:80c0:224:8cff:fe56:9d45] (unknown [IPv6:2a01:e34:ef32:80c0:224:8cff:fe56:9d45]) by smtp1-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DA099404FB for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2012 20:00:37 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4F1716D4.6070505@free.fr> Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 20:00:36 +0100 From: moebius User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.24) Gecko/20111108 Thunderbird/3.1.16 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Subject: Re: Quel logiciel ? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 212.27.42.1 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 19:00:51 -0000 Bonsoir, J'aime trop frescobaldi, la 2.0 est vraiment bien, facile =C3=A0 installe= r et=20 elle procure un confort exceptionnel. Rien qu'=C3=A0 la pens=C3=A9e de revenir =C3=A0 gedit =C3=A0 un terminal = et =C3=A0 evince, un=20 frisson d'effroi parcourt aussit=C3=B4t ma pauvre =C3=A9chine : plus jama= is =C3=A7a !! cordialement, Le 18/01/2012 19:27, Calixte FAURE a =C3=A9crit : > Bonsoir, > > Je voulais savoir ce que vous utilisiez pour entrer votre musique ? > J=E2=80=99ai utilis=C3=A9 Frescobaldi un petit moment, et en r=C3=A9ins= tallant mon syst=C3=A8me > je n=E2=80=99ai pas voulu le r=C3=A9installer (=C3=A9tant sous GNOME, p= our =C3=A9viter les > d=C3=A9pendances KDE) > Et puis comme je n=E2=80=99avais plus trop besoin de l=E2=80=99interfac= e point-clic, > j=E2=80=99utilise d=C3=A9sormais Vim, de mani=C3=A8re brute. > Alors je pourrais installer Frescobaldi 2, mais je voulais savoir comme > vous faisiez, avec un clavier midi, quel logiciel, =E2=80=A6 ? > > Il n=E2=80=99y a pas de volont=C3=A9 de troll ou d=E2=80=99opposition, = juste par curiosit=C3=A9 :) > > Merci ! > Calixte. > > > > _______________________________________________ > liste de diffusion lilypond-user-fr > lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user-fr From MAILER-DAEMON Wed Jan 18 14:20:31 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1Rnb3f-0001lh-RR for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2012 14:20:31 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:42690) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rnb3c-0001j0-Qa for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2012 14:20:29 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rnb3Y-0003JP-Te for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2012 14:20:28 -0500 Received: from sam.nabble.com ([216.139.236.26]:33258) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rnb3Y-0003JF-PC for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2012 14:20:24 -0500 Received: from jim.nabble.com ([192.168.236.80]) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rnb3V-0002WU-VE for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2012 11:20:21 -0800 Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 11:20:21 -0800 (PST) From: flup To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Message-ID: <1326914421917-7201277.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <4F1716D4.6070505@free.fr> References: <4F1716D4.6070505@free.fr> Subject: Re: Quel logiciel ? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 216.139.236.26 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 19:20:29 -0000 Mon c=C3=B4t=C3=A9 geek me pousserait bien vers emacs, mais uniquement pour= le sport :)=20 J'ai support=C3=A9 JEdit pendant longtemps, mais je suis pass=C3=A9 =C3=A0 = Frescobaldi 2 depuis les premi=C3=A8res versions de d=C3=A9veloppement et j'en suis encha= nt=C3=A9. Vivement une installation plus simple sur mac (comme c'est le cas sur windows depuis peu). Je n'utilise aucune entr=C3=A9e midi (la partition est rarement "fig=C3=A9e" au moment de l'encodage, le midi ne me fait donc gagn= er que peu de temps). J'utilise =C3=A9galement TeXShop (=C3=A9diteur LaTeX sur mac, donc s'inspir= e TeXworks), bien pratique pour lilypond-book. Philippe -- View this message in context: http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabbl= e.com/Quel-logiciel-tp7201087p7201277.html Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. 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[82.245.47.163]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id j4sm24157807lbf.6.2012.01.18.12.47.25 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 18 Jan 2012 12:47:26 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4F172FDA.3070908@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 21:47:22 +0100 From: =?UTF-8?B?SmVhbi1KYWNxdWVzIFLDqXRvcnLDqQ==?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.24) Gecko/20111114 Icedove/3.1.16 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Subject: Re: Quel logiciel ? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 209.85.215.41 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 20:47:32 -0000 Le 18/01/2012 19:27, Calixte FAURE a écrit : > Bonsoir, > > Je voulais savoir ce que vous utilisiez pour entrer votre musique ? > J’ai utilisé Frescobaldi un petit moment, et en réinstallant mon > système je n’ai pas voulu le réinstaller (étant sous GNOME, pour > éviter les dépendances KDE) > Et puis comme je n’avais plus trop besoin de l’interface point-clic, > j’utilise désormais Vim, de manière brute. > Alors je pourrais installer Frescobaldi 2, mais je voulais savoir > comme vous faisiez, avec un clavier midi, quel logiciel, … ? > > Il n’y a pas de volonté de troll ou d’opposition, juste par curiosité :) > > Merci ! > Calixte. Je saisis l'essentiel de ma partition avec Denemo et un clavier MIDI, puis j'exporte le code Lilipond que je fignole avec mon Emacs. Comme ne fais aussi des lilypond-book, le latex-mode d'AUCTeX auquel je suis habitué me facilite la tâche. J'ai un eeepc 4G que je branche à un de grande taille, un clavier (alphanumérique) et un clavier MIDI, je trouve l'ensemble très confortable. Je ne pense pas pouvoir faire la même chose sur cette machine avec jedit. -- JJR. From MAILER-DAEMON Wed Jan 18 17:59:26 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1RneTW-00021J-CX for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2012 17:59:26 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:50457) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RneTS-00020B-Mj for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2012 17:59:23 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RneTR-0005RD-Js for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2012 17:59:22 -0500 Received: from sam.nabble.com ([216.139.236.26]:51094) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RneTR-0005R6-Ey for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2012 17:59:21 -0500 Received: from jim.nabble.com ([192.168.236.80]) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RneTP-0008FD-UA for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2012 14:59:19 -0800 Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 14:59:19 -0800 (PST) From: Jean-Christophe D To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Message-ID: <1326927559909-7202071.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: References: <1326886167350-7199840.post@n2.nabble.com> <1326893437213-7200134.post@n2.nabble.com> <1326900323528-7200451.post@n2.nabble.com> <201201181705475001508@espace-midi.com> Subject: Re: LilyPond et Finale, la question qui tue MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 216.139.236.26 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 22:59:23 -0000 Lo=C3=AFc A. Chahine wrote >=20 > Effectivement, PDFtoMusic Pro permet de lire en XML une partition faite= =20 > par un ordinateur (mais pas un PDF scann=C3=A9, en effet). >=20 Audiveris =C3=A9galement, et il est gratuit. Mais Xavier avait l'air de dir= e qu'il n'=C3=A9tait pas top... (/ici:/ http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabble.com/Convertir-fichier-postsc= ript-en-fichier-lilypond-tp5246987p5247069.html ) Lily =3D> pdf =3D> Audiveris =3D> musicXml =3D> Finale JeanPi wrote >=20 > Peut-=C3=AAtre en exportant en MIDI la saisie (vu que c'est de la saisie = au > kilom=C3=A8tre sans fioritures ) puis en l'important dans finale ( Qui do= it au > moins savoir lire le MIDI ) . >=20 Oui, finale importe bien le midi, surtout si ce sont des tonalit=C3=A9s sim= ples sans trop d'enharmoniques (sensible de la gamme relative mineure...), c'est probablement la solution la plus rapide et la plus propre... s'il faut aboutir =C3=A0 du natif. Parce que sinon, j'ai cru comprendre qu'il est pos= sible d'importer et inclure des images .eps et autres formats... il scanne =C3=A9galement des TIFF, mais faut trouver le bon param=C3=A9trage (c=C3=A0= d g=C3=A9n=C3=A9rer le tiff au bon format..)... pas trop mal non plus... mais moins fiable que le midi. Jean-Christophe -- View this message in context: http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabbl= e.com/LilyPond-et-Finale-la-question-qui-tue-tp7199817p7202071.html Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From MAILER-DAEMON Wed Jan 18 18:17:52 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1RnelM-0007RE-Pd for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2012 18:17:52 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:45821) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RnelJ-0007Qu-Sm for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2012 18:17:52 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RnelH-0007qU-1B for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2012 18:17:49 -0500 Received: from blu0-omc4-s28.blu0.hotmail.com ([65.55.111.167]:58038) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RnelG-0007qI-Qh for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2012 18:17:46 -0500 Received: from BLU0-SMTP17 ([65.55.111.136]) by blu0-omc4-s28.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 18 Jan 2012 15:17:45 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [85.170.148.71] X-Originating-Email: [loic.chahine@hotmail.fr] Message-ID: Received: from MacBook-Pro-de-Loic-Chahine.local ([85.170.148.71]) by BLU0-SMTP17.phx.gbl over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 18 Jan 2012 15:17:44 -0800 Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 00:17:41 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Lo=EFc_Chahine?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Calixte FAURE , lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Subject: Re: Quel logiciel ? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------090903090002040805040706" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Jan 2012 23:17:44.0951 (UTC) FILETIME=[62693870:01CCD637] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Windows 2000 SP4, XP SP1+ X-Received-From: 65.55.111.167 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 23:17:52 -0000 --------------090903090002040805040706 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Bonsoir, Est-ce que la question de départ est /Quel logiciel utilisez-vous/ ou /Quel logiciel utilisez-vous avec un clavier MIDI/ ? Personnellement, je n'utilise pas de clavier MIDI. J'en ai pas. Depuis assez peu, j'utilise Frescobaldi, qui a plein de fonctionnalités intéressantes et pratiques. J'en citerais trois que j'ai bien aimées : --- Bonne gestion du point-and-click ! Je n'avais pas du tout ça, avant... --- Quand il y a des fautes, il met en couleur les lignes du code où elles sont. Pratique ! --- Une fonction "répéter l'accord précédent" : ce matin j'ai fait de la musique de piano, ça m'a fait gagner un peu de temps. Et je découvre, donc ce n'est qu'un début. Seul défaut, en effet, l'installation est assez lourde, et par ailleurs sur Mac encore un peu pénible. Ajoutons que sur Mac, comme cela a été signalé, l'intégration à l'OS n'est pas totale. Mais déjà en l'état, c'est vraiment, vraiment bien pratique. Par ailleurs, étant un peu LaTeXien, j'utilise aussi TeXShop. C'était l'éditeur que j'utilisais tout le temps avant, et si je double clique sur un fichier .ly, il s'ouvre avec TeXShop. Très utile en effet pour lilypond-book, puisqu'il est aussi facile de compiler dans TeXShop avec lilypond-book qu'avec lilypond ou pdflatex ou autres : un clic, ou un raccourci clavier. Avantages, à mon avis : légèreté et gestion de plein de formats, moyennant l'installation d'un petit plug-in pour LilyPond. Par contre, pas de point-and-click, pas de coloration syntaxique très développée... (même en LaTeX d'ailleurs) Sinon, Vim pour LilyPond, j'ai pas adhéré, c'était trop compliqué pour moi... Maintenant je m'en sers pas mal pour LaTeX, puisque je n'utilise presque que des commandes persos, donc je les "mappe". J'ai pas encore appris à enregistre mes mappages, alors je les refais à chaque fichier (alors qu'il y en a qui sont toujours les mêmes). Je ne maîtrise vraiment pas bien Vim : une fois fini mon fichier, je l'ouvre avec TeXShop pour compiler et faire les rechercher-remplacer (parce que j'ai des mappages avec :iab qui me mettent des espaces où j'en veux pas). Donc c'est pas très très bien comme méthode, mais j'ai la flemme de chercher tous les détails, de lire plein de pages, sûrement en anglais, alors que je m'en sors déjà à peu près comme ça ! L. --------------090903090002040805040706 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bonsoir,
Est-ce que la question de départ est Quel logiciel utilisez-vous ou Quel logiciel utilisez-vous avec un clavier MIDI ?
Personnellement, je n’utilise pas de clavier MIDI. J’en ai pas.
Depuis assez peu, j’utilise Frescobaldi, qui a plein de fonctionnalités intéressantes et pratiques. J’en citerais trois que j’ai bien aimées :
— Bonne gestion du point-and-click ! Je n’avais pas du tout ça, avant…
— Quand il y a des fautes, il met en couleur les lignes du code où elles sont. Pratique !
— Une fonction “répéter l’accord précédent” : ce matin j’ai fait de la musique de piano, ça m’a fait gagner un peu de temps.
Et je découvre, donc ce n’est qu’un début.
Seul défaut, en effet, l’installation est assez lourde, et par ailleurs sur Mac encore un peu pénible. Ajoutons que sur Mac, comme cela a été signalé, l’intégration à l’OS n’est pas totale. Mais déjà en l’état, c’est vraiment, vraiment bien pratique.

Par ailleurs, étant un peu LaTeXien, j’utilise aussi TeXShop. C’était l’éditeur que j’utilisais tout le temps avant, et si je double clique sur un fichier .ly, il s’ouvre avec TeXShop. Très utile en effet pour lilypond-book, puisqu’il est aussi facile de compiler dans TeXShop avec lilypond-book qu’avec lilypond ou pdflatex ou autres : un clic, ou un raccourci clavier.
Avantages, à mon avis : légèreté et gestion de plein de formats, moyennant l’installation d’un petit plug-in pour LilyPond.
Par contre, pas de point-and-click, pas de coloration syntaxique très développée… (même en LaTeX d’ailleurs)

Sinon, Vim pour LilyPond, j’ai pas adhéré, c’était trop compliqué pour moi… Maintenant je m’en sers pas mal pour LaTeX, puisque je n’utilise presque que des commandes persos, donc je les “mappe”. J’ai pas encore appris à enregistre mes mappages, alors je les refais à chaque fichier (alors qu’il y en a qui sont toujours les mêmes). Je ne maîtrise vraiment pas bien Vim : une fois fini mon fichier, je l’ouvre avec TeXShop pour compiler et faire les rechercher-remplacer (parce que j’ai des mappages avec :iab qui me mettent des espaces où j’en veux pas). Donc c’est pas très très bien comme méthode, mais j’ai la flemme de chercher tous les détails, de lire plein de pages, sûrement en anglais, alors que je m’en sors déjà à peu près comme ça !

L.
--------------090903090002040805040706-- From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Jan 19 03:45:17 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1RnncT-0003zn-VQ for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2012 03:45:17 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:57518) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RnncR-0003zW-4n for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2012 03:45:16 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RnncK-0007NH-VK for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2012 03:45:15 -0500 Received: from sam.nabble.com ([216.139.236.26]:34098) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RnncK-0007N5-Pq for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2012 03:45:08 -0500 Received: from jim.nabble.com ([192.168.236.80]) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RnncJ-0006zw-JP for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2012 00:45:07 -0800 Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 00:45:07 -0800 (PST) From: Calixte To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Message-ID: <1326962707587-7203032.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: Quel logiciel ? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 216.139.236.26 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 08:45:16 -0000 Bonjour, Merci pour vos r=C3=A9ponses. La question est bien quel Logiciel tout court, et dans quelles conditions. Je la pose pour savoir =C2=AB=C2=A0ce qui se fait=C2=A0=C2=BB, et trouver u= ne mani=C3=A8re peut-=C3=AAtre plus rapide d=E2=80=99=C3=A9crire mes fichiers lilypond :) Apparemment un clavier MIDI n=E2=80=99est pas forc=C3=A9ment plus rapide=E2= =80=A6 =C3=80 noter que Frescobaldi poss=C3=A8de une saisie =C2=AB =C3=A0 la ViM= =C2=A0=C2=BB :) Lo=C3=AFc : pour r=C3=A9p=C3=A9ter un accord il suffit d=E2=80=99=C3=A9crir= e /q/ ! Calixte. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabbl= e.com/Quel-logiciel-tp7201087p7203032.html Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Jan 19 08:52:26 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1RnsPi-0004Mr-CB for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2012 08:52:26 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:35695) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RnsPb-0004HZ-9w for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2012 08:52:23 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RnsPa-0008TV-19 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2012 08:52:19 -0500 Received: from mail-iy0-f169.google.com ([209.85.210.169]:39032) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RnsPZ-0008T9-NG for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2012 08:52:17 -0500 Received: by iadj38 with SMTP id j38so7419664iad.0 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2012 05:52:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=xnbWX1xqt4dpw62zh46xR5YSg4V74du6AWk1bcxWOKE=; b=qjC24hMaBJMK/bRE42VpJVhbixvHdKuu8gu/SYoPcJhRhemssTY135JNHTmlivdCRK vv5EgPeZs7rYuMEHh5MhmM9DQMDVWMX7mpqgt4d8OSjLJokADCd/WGw0oNhVRTJp4Kbf afn50tjaR4YBx4bWJ/dneiVo75h06T9Cf4ojI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.6.227 with SMTP id e3mr6381911iga.20.1326981136285; Thu, 19 Jan 2012 05:52:16 -0800 (PST) Sender: jgautierb@gmail.com Received: by 10.42.243.130 with HTTP; Thu, 19 Jan 2012 05:52:16 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 14:52:16 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: yWGPEeVfNpyIPhCPqLoJ8SsOFmw Message-ID: Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Alt=E9rations?= From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean_Gautier=2DBarill=E9?= To: LilyPond Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=e89a8f646abf40803b04b6e1dfa9 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 209.85.210.169 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 13:52:23 -0000 --e89a8f646abf40803b04b6e1dfa9 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8f646abf40803604b6e1dfa7 --e89a8f646abf40803604b6e1dfa7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bonjour =E0 tous et Bonne Ann=E9e, Je suis en train d'=E9crire une partition en LA mineur (Am), je n'ai pas rencontr=E9 de probl=E8mes particuliers, sauf une =E9criture d'alt=E9ration= qui me semble bizarre. Je joins une image pour plus de compr=E9hension: Sur la mesure consid=E9r=E9e, le* la *est diminu=E9 d'un demi-ton ,devient = *la b=E9mol*, mais dans la m=EAme mesure il faut le remonter d'un ton, donc il devient *la di=E8se* , Or, Lily me rajoute un b=E9carre ! , il est =E9vident que =E7=E0 coule de s= ource, mais est-ce que l'=E9criture du b=E9carre est obligatoire, je ne l'ai jamai= s vu dans d'autres partitions. Je m'en remets =E0 votre sagacit=E9. Merci d'avance. Jean. --e89a8f646abf40803604b6e1dfa7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bonjour =E0 tous et Bonne Ann=E9e,

Je suis en train d'=E9crire u= ne partition en LA mineur (Am), je n'ai pas rencontr=E9 de probl=E8mes = particuliers, sauf une =E9criture d'alt=E9ration qui me semble bizarre.=
Je joins une image pour plus de compr=E9hension:
Sur la mesure consid=E9r=E9e, le la est diminu=E9 d'un demi-ton = ,devient la b=E9mol, mais dans la m=EAme mesure il faut le remonter = d'un ton, donc il devient la di=E8se ,
Or, Lily me rajoute un= b=E9carre ! , il est =E9vident que =E7=E0 coule de source, mais est-ce que= l'=E9criture du b=E9carre est obligatoire, je ne l'ai jamais vu da= ns d'autres partitions.
Je m'en remets =E0 votre sagacit=E9.
Merci d'avance.
Jean.


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From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Jan 19 10:59:41 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1RnuOr-0007xg-1g for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2012 10:59:41 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:40955) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rnthk-0006xi-H9 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2012 10:15:14 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rntha-000841-P0 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2012 10:15:08 -0500 Received: from mail-gx0-f169.google.com ([209.85.161.169]:48564) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rntha-00083w-Km for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2012 10:14:58 -0500 Received: by ggnk5 with SMTP id k5so28548ggn.0 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2012 07:14:58 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=DrfPKeDozmXznyaZr+xm2LxQbB0MiSvbgfozWewHYek=; b=cwtRZhmsIx5Pr2um0wxvlGjI4+sh5SBLBTRR2z2Zgwk07FpJCa2dOoD5jEth1U4ndE fH24IabKKyloKU/kFnZbhQH70ybyMfxSC8lmOsMuABGmm/qe5yIvz4O+uUqls5wP8Rr+ 2UMUEkTi7cmjOXQG0dnE+jTEwYEBTUQ7LzHNU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.155.166 with SMTP id vx6mr25476895igb.16.1326986096403; Thu, 19 Jan 2012 07:14:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.42.243.130 with HTTP; Thu, 19 Jan 2012 07:14:56 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1326982143276-7204064.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1326982143276-7204064.post@n2.nabble.com> Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 16:14:56 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re=3A_Alt=E9rations?= From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean_Gautier=2DBarill=E9?= To: Eluze Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8f3ba963e5e35d04b6e30677 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 209.85.161.169 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 10:59:38 -0500 Cc: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 15:15:14 -0000 --e89a8f3ba963e5e35d04b6e30677 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Merci Eluze, je prends note, mais je pr=E9f=E8re quand m=EAme sans le b=E9c= arre. Jean Le 19 janvier 2012 15:09, Eluze a =E9crit : > > Jean Gautier wrote > > > > > > Sur la mesure consid=E9r=E9e, le* la *est diminu=E9 d'un demi-ton ,devi= ent *la > > b=E9mol*, mais dans la m=EAme mesure il faut le remonter d'un ton, donc= il > > devient *la di=E8se* , > > Or, Lily me rajoute un b=E9carre ! , il est =E9vident que =E7=E0 coule = de source, > > mais est-ce que l'=E9criture du b=E9carre est obligatoire, je ne l'ai j= amais > > vu > > dans d'autres partitions. > > > probablement une question de go=FBt! > > on peut =E9liminer ces cas avec > > \set Staff.extraNatural =3D ##f > > bonne ann=E9e! > > Eluze > > -- > View this message in context: > http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabble.com/Alterations-tp7204020p= 7204064.html > Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > liste de diffusion lilypond-user-fr > lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user-fr > --e89a8f3ba963e5e35d04b6e30677 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Merci Eluze, je prends note, mais je pr=E9f=E8re quand m=EAme sans le b=E9c= arre.
Jean

Le 19 janvier 2012 15:09, E= luze <EluzeW@gmail= .com> a =E9crit :

Jean Gautier wrote
>
>
> Sur la mesure consid=E9r=E9e, le* la *est diminu=E9 d'un demi-ton = ,devient *la
> b=E9mol*, mais dans la m=EAme mesure il faut le remonter d'un ton,= donc il
> devient *la di=E8se* ,
> Or, Lily me rajoute un b=E9carre ! , il est =E9viden= t que =E7=E0 coule de source,
> mais est-ce que l'=E9criture du b=E9carre est obligatoire, je ne l= 'ai jamais
> vu
> dans d'autres partitions.
>
probablement une question de go=FBt!

on peut =E9liminer ces cas avec

\set Staff.extraNatural =3D ##f

bonne ann=E9e!

Eluze

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--e89a8f3ba963e5e35d04b6e30677-- From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Jan 19 11:08:46 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1RnuXe-0002VE-1v for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2012 11:08:46 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:50023) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RnuXb-0002T6-7z for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2012 11:08:44 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RnuXT-00022t-Hw for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2012 11:08:43 -0500 Received: from blu0-omc4-s4.blu0.hotmail.com ([65.55.111.143]:33400) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RnuXT-00022a-FH for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2012 11:08:35 -0500 Received: from BLU0-SMTP158 ([65.55.111.135]) by blu0-omc4-s4.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Thu, 19 Jan 2012 08:08:33 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [85.170.148.71] X-Originating-Email: [loic.chahine@hotmail.fr] Message-ID: Received: from MacBook-Pro-de-Loic-Chahine.local ([85.170.148.71]) by BLU0-SMTP158.phx.gbl over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Thu, 19 Jan 2012 08:08:31 -0800 Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 17:08:30 +0100 From: =?windows-1252?Q?Lo=EFc_Chahine?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Subject: Re: =?windows-1252?Q?Alt=E9rations?= References: <1326982143276-7204064.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Jan 2012 16:08:32.0059 (UTC) FILETIME=[96E780B0:01CCD6C4] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Windows 2000 SP4, XP SP1+ X-Received-From: 65.55.111.143 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 16:08:44 -0000 J’en profite pour poser une petite question, juste parce que sans doute quelqu’un saura la réponse en 5 secondes alors que ça me prendra un quart d’heure de chercher dans la doc : si on veut des altérations de précaution, il y a moyen d’en avoir sans les mettre manuellement ? 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From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Jan 19 11:16:28 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1Rnuf6-0005Bf-8r for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2012 11:16:28 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:42548) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rnuf0-0005AK-K0 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2012 11:16:26 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rnuev-0003Xs-OQ for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2012 11:16:22 -0500 Received: from sam.nabble.com ([216.139.236.26]:38374) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rnuev-0003Xf-Ke for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2012 11:16:17 -0500 Received: from jim.nabble.com ([192.168.236.80]) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rnueu-0001lV-E3 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2012 08:16:16 -0800 Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 08:16:16 -0800 (PST) From: Eluze To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Message-ID: <1326989776268-7204527.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: References: <1326982143276-7204064.post@n2.nabble.com> Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re:_Alt=C3=A9rations?= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 216.139.236.26 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 16:16:26 -0000 Lo=C3=AFc A. Chahine wrote >=20 > J=E2=80=99en profite pour poser une petite question, juste parce que sans= doute=20 > quelqu=E2=80=99un saura la r=C3=A9ponse en 5 secondes alors que =C3=A7a m= e prendra un=20 > quart d=E2=80=99heure de chercher dans la doc : > si on veut des alt=C3=A9rations de pr=C3=A9caution, il y a moyen d=E2=80= =99en avoir sans=20 > les mettre manuellement ? >=20 je ne sais pas lequel de tous les stiles conviendra le mieux, mais il y en = a beaucoup - voir sous \accidentalStyle "=E2=80=A6" =20 Eluze -- View this message in context: http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabbl= e.com/Alterations-tp7204020p7204527.html Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Jan 19 11:19:33 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1Rnui5-0005fI-Ld for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2012 11:19:33 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:60155) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rnuhy-0005dx-EE for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2012 11:19:32 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rnuhs-0004N6-8I for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2012 11:19:26 -0500 Received: from mail-pz0-f41.google.com ([209.85.210.41]:64589) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rnuhr-0004LJ-Ts for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2012 11:19:20 -0500 Received: by dang27 with SMTP id g27so68059dan.0 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2012 08:19:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=7UYCB+QIknUiHPLV3VKBsP0GktVLg5U1HaRI7OCJnPk=; b=KHpNsRITYroge53kFnP8p5es6LOuUmWAdsBHMYEHW0yjuY0akrJOVCU159mxUtE/qZ VlVPXspErH0jYGJ45cdXFFScY+vWEH2OATbl68fLphKXGQvwmQBNOqlh3OqDysKH+jJv ZIx4SCRsiS3ZKvFa4GaSHGMncwHk2LKCY5odY= Received: by 10.68.74.233 with SMTP id x9mr53336146pbv.74.1326989958655; Thu, 19 Jan 2012 08:19:18 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.241.8 with HTTP; Thu, 19 Jan 2012 08:18:57 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <1326982143276-7204064.post@n2.nabble.com> From: Xavier Scheuer Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 17:18:57 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re=3A_Alt=C3=A9rations?= To: =?UTF-8?Q?Lo=C3=AFc_Chahine?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 209.85.210.41 Cc: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 16:19:32 -0000 2012/1/19 Lo=C3=AFc Chahine : > J=E2=80=99en profite pour poser une petite question, juste parce que sans= doute > quelqu=E2=80=99un saura la r=C3=A9ponse en 5 secondes alors que =C3=A7a m= e prendra un quart > d=E2=80=99heure de chercher dans la doc : > si on veut des alt=C3=A9rations de pr=C3=A9caution, il y a moyen d=E2=80= =99en avoir sans les > mettre manuellement ? Il existe des styles pour les alt=C3=A9rations accidentelles automatiques. \accidentalStyle #'Score "modern-cautionary" % syntaxe 2.15.r=C3=A9cent % #(set-accidental-style 'modern-cautionary 'Score) % 2.14.2 correspond par exemple =C3=A0 "lorsqu'une note non-alt=C3=A9r=C3=A9e appara= =C3=AEt =C3=A0 une octave diff=C3=A9rente, ou bien dans la mesure suivante, des b=C3=A9carres = de pr=C3=A9caution sont ajout=C3=A9s entre parenth=C3=A8ses". Cf. NR 1.1.3 Gravure des hauteurs > Alt=C3=A9rations accidentelles automati= ques http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/notation/displaying-pitches.fr.= html#automatic-accidentals Cordialement, Xavier --=20 Xavier Scheuer From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Jan 19 12:08:50 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1RnvTm-00072A-Fh for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2012 12:08:50 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:40127) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RnvTe-0006zc-11 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2012 12:08:48 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RnvTc-0007j6-Oa for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2012 12:08:41 -0500 Received: from smtp10.smtpout.orange.fr ([80.12.242.132]:17017 helo=smtp.smtpout.orange.fr) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RnvTc-0007iV-KM for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2012 12:08:40 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.13] ([82.120.208.242]) by mwinf5d45 with ME id PV8b1i00y5EKwpN03V8dSH; Thu, 19 Jan 2012 18:08:38 +0100 Message-ID: <4F184DEF.2010202@orange.fr> Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 18:07:59 +0100 From: discussions-sur-forums User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Subject: Interdit au nouveau romain References: <1235592042954-2385756.post@n2.nabble.com> <49A5D462.9020202@cathemline.org> <1235640137493-2388601.post@n2.nabble.com> <1307029307602-6431690.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <1307029307602-6431690.post@n2.nabble.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.12.242.132 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 17:08:48 -0000 Bonjour à tous, Je viens de tester le code suivant avec la 2.14.2 sous Windows 7: \markup { "azerty" } \markup { \override #'(font-name . "Times") "azerty" } \markup { "azerty" } \markup { \override #'(font-name . "Times New Roman") "azerty" } \markup { "azerty" } La ligne 2 sélectionne une police qui semble proche de "Times New Roman". La ligne 4 ne sélectionne pas du tout la police "Times New Roman". Est-ce normal? From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Jan 19 12:22:20 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1Rnvgq-0003Xi-6z for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2012 12:22:20 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:59586) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rnvgj-0003WF-8s for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2012 12:22:18 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rnvgh-0001yw-OE for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2012 12:22:13 -0500 Received: from smtp2-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.2]:34003) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rnvgh-0001yS-2w for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2012 12:22:11 -0500 Received: from [192.168.0.1] (unknown [82.254.176.185]) by smtp2-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEFD84B0226; Thu, 19 Jan 2012 18:22:03 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4F18513A.8030808@free.fr> Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 18:22:02 +0100 From: Jean-Jacques Gerbaud User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (X11/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?windows-1252?Q?Lo=EFc_Chahine?= Subject: Re: =?windows-1252?Q?Alt=E9rations?= References: <1326982143276-7204064.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 212.27.42.2 Cc: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 17:22:18 -0000 Lo=EFc Chahine a =E9crit : > J=92en profite pour poser une petite question, juste parce que sans dou= te=20 > quelqu=92un saura la r=E9ponse en 5 secondes alors que =E7a me prendra = un=20 > quart d=92heure de chercher dans la doc : > si on veut des alt=E9rations de pr=E9caution, il y a moyen d=92en avoir= sans=20 > les mettre manuellement ? Peut =EAtre que je r=E9ponds compl=E8tement =E0 c=F4t=E9 mais, pour moi, = en suivant=20 la doc, les alt=E9rations de pr=E9caution se mettent en mettant un "!" ou= =20 "?" . Avec cette derni=E8re commande, elles apparaissent entre parenth=E8= ses. exemple e!8 fis(?)4 etc... (attention =E0 la place du ! et ?) Si =E7a ne r=E9pond pas =E0 ta question, tant pis --=20 JJG From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Jan 19 13:58:11 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1RnxBb-0004rL-Jq for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2012 13:58:11 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:60574) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RnxBY-0004r8-EM for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2012 13:58:09 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RnxBX-0002FP-Ez for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2012 13:58:08 -0500 Received: from mail-ww0-f49.google.com ([74.125.82.49]:44911) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RnxBX-0002FH-9m for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2012 13:58:07 -0500 Received: by wgbdq13 with SMTP id dq13so250196wgb.30 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2012 10:58:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=OnRpqfyxQS9ERbKtPaqr4pAsRYJjPjiHYr4sU7B97k0=; b=ZdjYZCy6bAi7HJJHZAnlQiuOpQuj3MX4NK1/JhSpiiktz9cQ139o4fRVnYwlwNmhDa eCJ52E8XK3e9kCjaPoJ1YV8sKss40rNYgJlTlFZl/cyK5/JqsfQBbTv/txNxyYKdpt1I 93vsEHXSEOuIe2Re08S3wPKdY0drY6UCD2RGk= Received: by 10.180.77.228 with SMTP id v4mr46342842wiw.8.1326999486084; Thu, 19 Jan 2012 10:58:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from [78.129.5.155] (host-78-129-5-155.brutele.be. [78.129.5.155]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id n3sm786568wiz.9.2012.01.19.10.58.04 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 19 Jan 2012 10:58:05 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4F1867BC.7050103@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 19:58:04 +0100 From: Philippe Arnould User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:9.0) Gecko/20111224 Thunderbird/9.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Eluze Subject: Re: =?windows-1252?Q?Alt=E9rations?= References: <1326982143276-7204064.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <1326982143276-7204064.post@n2.nabble.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 74.125.82.49 Cc: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 18:58:09 -0000 Le 19/01/12 15:09, Eluze a écrit : > Jean Gautier wrote >> >> Sur la mesure considérée, le* la *est diminué d'un demi-ton ,devient *la >> bémol*, mais dans la même mesure il faut le remonter d'un ton, donc il >> devient *la dièse* , >> Or, Lily me rajoute un bécarre ! , il est évident que çà coule de source, >> mais est-ce que l'écriture du bécarre est obligatoire, je ne l'ai jamais >> vu >> dans d'autres partitions. >> > probablement une question de goût! > > on peut éliminer ces cas avec > > \set Staff.extraNatural = ##f > > bonne année! > > Eluze > > -- > View this message in context: http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabble.com/Alterations-tp7204020p7204064.html > Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > liste de diffusion lilypond-user-fr > lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user-fr Question de gouts, cela dépend de ce que tu écris aussi. Si tu écris un morceau remplis de triples croches avec 7# à la clé, cela devient une question de lisibilité aussi.^^ From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Jan 19 14:10:15 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1RnxNH-00082M-Hy for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2012 14:10:15 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:39563) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RnxNF-00082G-EB for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2012 14:10:14 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RnxNB-0004Wx-2m for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2012 14:10:13 -0500 Received: from sam.nabble.com ([216.139.236.26]:55821) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RnxNA-0004WI-S4 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2012 14:10:09 -0500 Received: from jim.nabble.com ([192.168.236.80]) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RnxN9-0004m6-11 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2012 11:10:07 -0800 Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 11:10:07 -0800 (PST) From: legoss To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Message-ID: <1327000207016-7205019.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: LilyPond et Finale, la question qui tue MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 216.139.236.26 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 19:10:14 -0000 Lo=C3=AFc A. Chahine wrote >=20 > Mais le moment =C3=A9tait mal choisi (les d=C3=A9lais sont tr=C3=A8s cour= ts et=20 > je suis un peu mal plac=C3=A9, hi=C3=A9rarchiquement) pour pros=C3=A9lyte= r ! Pros=C3=A9lytez quand-m=C3=AAme mon cher ! Pros=C3=A9lytez vous dis-je ! ... mais mets ton casque au cas o=C3=B9.=20 -- View this message in context: http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabbl= e.com/LilyPond-et-Finale-la-question-qui-tue-tp7199817p7205019.html Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 20 03:00:46 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1Ro9Ow-00056Y-Ac for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Jan 2012 03:00:46 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:45191) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ro9Op-00056H-CZ for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Jan 2012 03:00:44 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ro9Ok-0000Jw-Uj for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Jan 2012 03:00:39 -0500 Received: from mail-iy0-f169.google.com ([209.85.210.169]:35430) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ro9Ok-0000Jr-L7 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Jan 2012 03:00:34 -0500 Received: by iadj38 with SMTP id j38so660844iad.0 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2012 00:00:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=Jc+czdBjIgRrTlG1Gph6NvY4aatnFBKWV1Oote4o/SA=; b=lPkUJ0BkDxhNXxgj2CbHA34p47pOdld96c8o7FKnY2+cQbfOiezzlxWBMUxnMqokEQ ZFyTHfAoPzYHQdE93/izmwjdHuUIv6aVct3ACqm4eKX7vNW6tZP2IbydcsPoegiGrs34 Es+el2Ym4Vuc33JTaWnN3U3WhjqR1US1iKPrk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.6.227 with SMTP id e3mr1476501iga.20.1327046434128; Fri, 20 Jan 2012 00:00:34 -0800 (PST) Sender: jgautierb@gmail.com Received: by 10.42.243.130 with HTTP; Fri, 20 Jan 2012 00:00:33 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4F1867BC.7050103@gmail.com> References: <1326982143276-7204064.post@n2.nabble.com> <4F1867BC.7050103@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 09:00:33 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: st_DqMzEOMPh2jVo4U0o5EtAbtA Message-ID: Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re=3A_Alt=E9rations?= From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean_Gautier=2DBarill=E9?= To: Philippe Arnould Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8f646abf4e82ec04b6f1135f X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. 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Le 19 janvier 2012 19:58, Philippe Arnould a =E9crit : > Le 19/01/12 15:09, Eluze a =E9crit : > > Jean Gautier wrote > >> > >> Sur la mesure consid=E9r=E9e, le* la *est diminu=E9 d'un demi-ton ,dev= ient *la > >> b=E9mol*, mais dans la m=EAme mesure il faut le remonter d'un ton, don= c il > >> devient *la di=E8se* , > >> Or, Lily me rajoute un b=E9carre ! , il est =E9vident que =E7=E0 coule= de > source, > >> mais est-ce que l'=E9criture du b=E9carre est obligatoire, je ne l'ai = jamais > >> vu > >> dans d'autres partitions. > >> > > probablement une question de go=FBt! > > > > on peut =E9liminer ces cas avec > > > > \set Staff.extraNatural =3D ##f > > > > bonne ann=E9e! > > > > Eluze > > > > -- > > View this message in context: > http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabble.com/Alterations-tp7204020p= 7204064.html > > Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > liste de diffusion lilypond-user-fr > > lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org > > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user-fr > > Question de gouts, cela d=E9pend de ce que tu =E9cris aussi. Si tu =E9cri= s un > morceau remplis de triples croches avec 7# =E0 la cl=E9, cela devient une > question de lisibilit=E9 aussi.^^ > > _______________________________________________ > liste de diffusion lilypond-user-fr > lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user-fr > --e89a8f646abf4e82ec04b6f1135f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Enti=E8rement d'accord avec toi.

Le 1= 9 janvier 2012 19:58, Philippe Arnould <phi.jazz@gmail.com> a =E9crit :
Le 19/01/12 15:09, Eluze a =E9crit :
> Jean Gautier wrote
>>
>> Sur la mesure consid=E9r=E9e, le* la *est diminu=E9 d'un demi-= ton ,devient *la
>> b=E9mol*, mais dans la m=EAme mesure il faut le remonter d'un = ton, donc il
>> devient *la di=E8se* ,
>> Or, Lily me rajoute un b=E9carre ! , il est =E9vident que =E7=E0 c= oule de source,
>> mais est-ce que l'=E9criture du b=E9carre est obligatoire, je = ne l'ai jamais
>> vu
>> dans d'autres partitions.
>>
> probablement une question de go=FBt!
>
> on peut =E9liminer ces cas avec
>
> \set Staff.extraNatural =3D ##f
>
> bonne ann=E9e!
>
> Eluze
>
> --
> View this message in context: http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabble.com/Alterations-tp7204020p7= 204064.html
> Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com= .
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Question de gouts, cela d=E9pend de ce que tu =E9cris aussi. Si= tu =E9cris un
morceau remplis de triples croches avec 7# =E0 la cl=E9, cela devient une question de lisibilit=E9 aussi.^^

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--e89a8f646abf4e82ec04b6f1135f-- From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 20 14:37:43 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1RoKHP-0002fA-ST for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Jan 2012 14:37:43 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:38084) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RoKHN-0002eu-0A for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Jan 2012 14:37:41 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RoKHM-0006od-1A for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Jan 2012 14:37:40 -0500 Received: from sam.nabble.com ([216.139.236.26]:38935) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RoKHL-0006oT-TI for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Jan 2012 14:37:39 -0500 Received: from jim.nabble.com ([192.168.236.80]) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RoKHK-0007Ua-4x for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Jan 2012 11:37:38 -0800 Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 11:37:38 -0800 (PST) From: legoss To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Message-ID: <1327088258145-7208786.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: References: <1326982143276-7204064.post@n2.nabble.com> <4F1867BC.7050103@gmail.com> Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re:_Alt=C3=A9rations?= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 216.139.236.26 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 19:37:42 -0000 Je me demande si on ne trouverait pas la r=C3=A9ponse dans un bouquin de th= =C3=A9orie musicale... Je me souviens m'=C3=AAtre un jour pos=C3=A9 les 2 questions suivantes sans= avoir pu trancher. - soit une tonalit=C3=A9 de Do Mineur (3 b=C3=A9mols). Dans une m=C3=AAme m= esure la sensible (si b=C3=A9carre) appara=C3=AEt plusieurs fois. Faut-il le signale= r "b=C3=A9carre" =C3=A0 chaque fois ou pas ? - dans la mesure suivante le si redeviennent b=C3=A9mol. Faut-il ou pas le signaler "b=C3=A9mol", sachant qu'il est d=C3=A9j=C3=A0 pr=C3=A9sent =C3=A0= la cl=C3=A9? Ce ne sont pas des questions existentielles... mais quand-m=C3=AAme. Laurent. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabbl= e.com/Alterations-tp7204020p7208786.html Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 20 14:48:30 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1RoKRq-0006Vp-5c for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Jan 2012 14:48:30 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:40453) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RoKRn-0006U5-Ku for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Jan 2012 14:48:28 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RoKRm-0008Up-M7 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Jan 2012 14:48:27 -0500 Received: from blu0-omc4-s36.blu0.hotmail.com ([65.55.111.175]:47322) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RoKRm-0008UY-JH for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Jan 2012 14:48:26 -0500 Received: from BLU0-SMTP181 ([65.55.111.135]) by blu0-omc4-s36.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Fri, 20 Jan 2012 11:48:24 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [85.170.148.71] X-Originating-Email: [loic.chahine@hotmail.fr] Message-ID: Received: from MacBook-Pro-de-Loic-Chahine.local ([85.170.148.71]) by BLU0-SMTP181.phx.gbl over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Fri, 20 Jan 2012 11:48:19 -0800 Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 20:48:09 +0100 From: =?windows-1252?Q?Lo=EFc_Chahine?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: legoss , lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Subject: Re: =?windows-1252?Q?Alt=E9rations?= References: <1326982143276-7204064.post@n2.nabble.com> <4F1867BC.7050103@gmail.com> <1327088258145-7208786.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <1327088258145-7208786.post@n2.nabble.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Jan 2012 19:48:23.0276 (UTC) FILETIME=[77E53AC0:01CCD7AC] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Windows 2000 SP4, XP SP1+ X-Received-From: 65.55.111.175 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 19:48:28 -0000 Le 20/01/12 20:37, legoss a écrit : > Je me demande si on ne trouverait pas la réponse dans un bouquin de théorie > musicale... > Je me souviens m'être un jour posé les 2 questions suivantes sans avoir pu > trancher. > > - soit une tonalité de Do Mineur (3 bémols). Dans une même mesure la > sensible (si bécarre) apparaît plusieurs fois. Faut-il le signaler "bécarre" > à chaque fois ou pas ? Normalement, non. En revanche, on le faisait à l’époque baroque, où l’altération n’était valable que pour la note qui la suivait immédiatement, et jusqu’à ce qu’on change de hauteur (exemple : sol dièse, la, sol dièse = on met deux fois le dièse ; sol dièse, sol dièse, la = on met une fois le dièse). Actuellement, une altération, quelle qu’elle soit, est valable pour la mesure. Si elle rechange, elle doit être à nouveau signalée. Pour reprendre mes exemple : ça dépend ça chaque fois s’il y a une barre de mesure entre les deux sol dièses ! s’il y a barre, on remet, sinon, non. > - dans la mesure suivante le si redeviennent bémol. Faut-il ou pas le > signaler "bémol", sachant qu'il est déjà présent à la clé? Théoriquement, non, mais on le fait généralement pour le confort du lecteur ;) Je crois qu’on parle — en tout cas moi je le fais — d’ “altération de précaution”. Cordialement, L. From MAILER-DAEMON Sat Jan 21 04:19:16 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1RoX6S-0001R7-RC for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 04:19:16 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:50738) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RoX6N-0001R1-LG for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 04:19:15 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RoX6J-0005b9-Id for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 04:19:11 -0500 Received: from smtp4-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.4]:42669) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RoX6I-0005ZA-VD for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 04:19:07 -0500 Received: from [192.168.0.1] (unknown [82.252.23.250]) by smtp4-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 408BC4C8237 for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 10:19:00 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4F1A8303.10004@free.fr> Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 10:18:59 +0100 From: Jean-Jacques Gerbaud User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (X11/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lilypond-user-fr Subject: Frescobaldi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 212.27.42.4 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 09:19:15 -0000 Bonjour =C3=A0 tous, Normalement j'utilise Lilypond (2.15.19) et Jedit pour mes partitions. J'ai un peu de mal pour faire des *belles* partition mais j'y arrive quand m=C3=AAme. Il y a quelque temps j'ai demand=C3=A9 l'aide de la liste pour essayer de faire fonctionner le lecteur midi qui subitement, s'est mis =C3=A0 faire = des siennes et reste d=C3=A9sesp=C3=A9r=C3=A9ment muet. En consultant les messages de la liste, je remarque que beaucoup d'entre vous sont satisfaits de Frescobaldi et je voudrais bien l'essayer. (je suis sous LinuxMint . Je l'ai utilis=C3=A9 dans le temps lorsque j'=C3=A9= tais encore sous KDE mais maintenant, je sous sous Gnome. Je l'ai donc install=C3=A9 et ai ouvert un fichier lilypond avec Frescoba= ldi. Dans la partie de droite pr=C3=A9vue pour voir le r=C3=A9sultat de la com= pilation de la partie gauche, au lieu de la partition attendue, apparait un messag= e : impossible de charger le module popplerqt4. lorsque je clique sur "popplerqt4", j'arrive sur une page web me proposant de t=C3=A9l=C3=A9charger "python-poppler-qt4", ce que je fais p= uis l'installe avec les commande ad=C3=A9quates demand=C3=A9es . mint@LinuxMint ~/telechargements/python-poppler-qt4-0.16.2 $ python setup.py build running build running build_ext puis : mint@LinuxMint ~/telechargements/python-poppler-qt4-0.16.2 $ sudo python setup.py install --prefix /usr sudo: unable to resolve host LinuxMint [sudo] password for mint: running install running build running build_ext running install_lib creating /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages copying build/lib.linux-i686-2.7/popplerqt4.so -> /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages running install_egg_info Writing /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/python_poppler_qt4-0.16.2-py2.7.egg-info Il semble donc que tout ce soit pass=C3=A9 sans erreur mais.... le petit message "impossible de charger le module popplerqt4" est toujours l=C3=A0= =C3=A0 l'ouverture d'un fichier .ly avec Frescobaldi. J'ai d=C3=BB louper une =C3=A9tape ou quelque chose et je ne sais plus qu= oi faire. Des id=C3=A9es ? --=20 JJG From MAILER-DAEMON Sat Jan 21 05:07:57 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1RoXrZ-0007mY-LE for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 05:07:57 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:34634) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RoXrT-0007mE-MB for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 05:07:55 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RoXrP-0003Ny-GB for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 05:07:51 -0500 Received: from mail-pw0-f41.google.com ([209.85.160.41]:46575) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RoXrO-0003Nj-UE for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 05:07:47 -0500 Received: by pbdu6 with SMTP id u6so910829pbd.0 for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 02:07:45 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=1xWjw/I2Tl36dhRfqy5Dw/Q8waCpwYSK+ZXVzAPAvYk=; b=Yozy+0uf3ZCzXSSsZ48VvxM3pCSv8EytjDithW/NBOskFMH9fvsVy5XZYdJi7wyhlr T3NQkME/dbnNe9Qn37EzW7e4WrOzPJxtLaVsznT1Q0blqkZAgDg7aqtumTNlEjGQVgMx TtfUzfKJuc9oAPS5B9xyQD2tlscaxCKj9Yj44= Received: by 10.68.73.68 with SMTP id j4mr4170328pbv.40.1327140465417; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 02:07:45 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.241.8 with HTTP; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 02:07:24 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4F1A8303.10004@free.fr> References: <4F1A8303.10004@free.fr> From: Xavier Scheuer Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 11:07:24 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Frescobaldi To: Jean-Jacques Gerbaud Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 209.85.160.41 Cc: lilypond-user-fr X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 10:07:56 -0000 2012/1/21 Jean-Jacques Gerbaud : > > Il semble donc que tout ce soit pass=C3=A9 sans erreur mais.... le petit > message "impossible de charger le module popplerqt4" est toujours l=C3=A0= =C3=A0 > l'ouverture d'un fichier .ly avec Frescobaldi. > > J'ai d=C3=BB louper une =C3=A9tape ou quelque chose et je ne sais plus qu= oi faire. > > Des id=C3=A9es ? Salut, Wilbert a r=C3=A9pondu a quelqu'un qui avait un probl=C3=A8me similaire : http://groups.google.com/group/frescobaldi/browse_thread/thread/8b83526ff13= f6dd0/3401f8187a6bae3d?lnk=3Dgst&q=3Dpopplerqt4#3401f8187a6bae3d Essayer python setup.py install --install-layout=3Ddeb dans la commande d'installation de python-poppler-qt4 . Cordialement, Xavier --=20 Xavier Scheuer From MAILER-DAEMON Sat Jan 21 05:41:16 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1RoYNo-0003LY-RV for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 05:41:16 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:36254) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RoYNl-0003AN-IV for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 05:41:14 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RoYNk-0007sd-AB for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 05:41:13 -0500 Received: from sam.nabble.com ([216.139.236.26]:50616) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RoYNk-0007sU-6Y for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 05:41:12 -0500 Received: from jim.nabble.com ([192.168.236.80]) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RoYNg-0007xy-Ug for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 02:41:08 -0800 Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 02:41:08 -0800 (PST) From: bameylan To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Message-ID: <1327142468933-7210673.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: References: <4F1A8303.10004@free.fr> Subject: Re: Frescobaldi MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 216.139.236.26 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 10:41:14 -0000 Sans avoir tout lu, je te propose le lien suivant: http://www.pianopenguin.net/index.php?post/2011/12/20/Frescobaldi-2 qui m'a sauv=C3=A9 d'un suicide pr=C3=A9matur=C3=A9 apr=C3=A8s avoir =C3= =A0 peu pr=C3=A8s tout essay=C3=A9 concernant ce probl=C3=A8me irritant du joyeux drille poppler... hth Bernard -- View this message in context: http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabbl= e.com/Frescobaldi-tp7210532p7210673.html Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From MAILER-DAEMON Sat Jan 21 05:42:27 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1RoYOx-0003vZ-3S for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 05:42:27 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:36316) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RoYOu-0003vT-JB for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 05:42:25 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RoYOt-0007vH-Mz for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 05:42:24 -0500 Received: from sam.nabble.com ([216.139.236.26]:50742) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RoYOt-0007v8-JP for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 05:42:23 -0500 Received: from jim.nabble.com ([192.168.236.80]) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RoYOr-00089D-Uc for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 02:42:21 -0800 Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 02:42:21 -0800 (PST) From: nyko To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Message-ID: <1327142541938-7210678.post@n2.nabble.com> Subject: subdivideBeams et triolet MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 216.139.236.26 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 10:42:25 -0000 Bonjour =C3=A0 tous, Je souhaite grouper des triolets de double. \version "2.15.24" \relative c'' { \set tupletSpannerDuration =3D #(ly:make-moment 1 8) \set subdivideBeams =3D ##t \set baseMoment =3D #(ly:make-moment 1 8) =20 \times 2/3 {d16 e d d e d d e d d e d d e d d e d d e d d e d | d e d d e d d e d d e d d e d d e d d e d d e d } } Mais je n'obtiens pas le r=C3=A9sultat attendu. La subdivision ne fonctionn= e que sur le deuxi=C3=A8me temps. J'utilise la version de d=C3=A9veloppement 2.15. Ce comportement est-il normal? Merci d'avance pour votre aide. http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabble.com/file/n7210678/tupletSub.= png=20 -- View this message in context: http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabbl= e.com/subdivideBeams-et-triolet-tp7210678p7210678.html Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From MAILER-DAEMON Sat Jan 21 06:07:28 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1RoYnA-000614-6c for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 06:07:28 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:37751) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RoYn7-0005yG-8v for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 06:07:26 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RoYn6-0003ET-3L for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 06:07:25 -0500 Received: from smtp4-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.4]:42435) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RoYn5-0003EM-E9 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 06:07:24 -0500 Received: from [192.168.0.1] (unknown [82.252.23.250]) by smtp4-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3730A4C81D4; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 12:07:15 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4F1A9C62.3060101@free.fr> Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 12:07:14 +0100 From: Jean-Jacques Gerbaud User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (X11/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lilypond-user-fr Subject: Re: Frescobaldi References: <4F1A8303.10004@free.fr> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 212.27.42.4 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 11:07:26 -0000 Xavier Scheuer a =C3=A9crit : > 2012/1/21 Jean-Jacques Gerbaud : >> Il semble donc que tout ce soit pass=C3=A9 sans erreur mais.... le pet= it >> message "impossible de charger le module popplerqt4" est toujours l=C3= =A0 =C3=A0 >> l'ouverture d'un fichier .ly avec Frescobaldi. >> >> J'ai d=C3=BB louper une =C3=A9tape ou quelque chose et je ne sais plus= quoi faire. >> >> Des id=C3=A9es ? >=20 > Salut, >=20 > Wilbert a r=C3=A9pondu a quelqu'un qui avait un probl=C3=A8me similaire= : > http://groups.google.com/group/frescobaldi/browse_thread/thread/8b83526= ff13f6dd0/3401f8187a6bae3d?lnk=3Dgst&q=3Dpopplerqt4#3401f8187a6bae3d >=20 > Essayer python setup.py install --install-layout=3Ddeb > dans la commande d'installation de python-poppler-qt4 . >=20 > Cordialement, > Xavier >=20 Merci Xavier mais ta suggestion n'a pas =C3=A9t=C3=A9 suffisante ! il a f= allu que=20 je prenne celle de bameylan qui elle, a fonctionn=C3=A9 impeccablement b= ien ! Maintenant, une autre question qui n'a rien =C3=A0 voir : comment mettre les N=C2=B0 de lignes dans Frescobaldi, je n'ai pas trouv=C3= =A9. (je sais, j'aurais d=C3=BB changer de sujet mais la r=C3=A9ponse sera tel= lement=20 simple ...) --=20 JJG From MAILER-DAEMON Sat Jan 21 06:16:19 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1RoYvj-0007yo-Q3 for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 06:16:19 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:58568) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RoYvf-0007qv-MA for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 06:16:18 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RoYvd-0004Xw-KB for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 06:16:15 -0500 Received: from mail-pw0-f41.google.com ([209.85.160.41]:57217) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RoYvd-0004XU-3d for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 06:16:13 -0500 Received: by pbdu6 with SMTP id u6so931289pbd.0 for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 03:16:12 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=/1HKUG+J/FqphJNbPHLhY5LmVWejia2aVwMvkWCyo4k=; b=JQTJ5GRPFtBX1+hCnNtK+SJ6bTrK3nmEp7M7UyRdgWwfTqDwyVMe/z6jOFxTSULQsy n+jQpqtqxshUIVRLEdXzoRTs3K7+ObNtXTyi62jIQMUiKkKJNnlQHZlHGbPs0cpVfNzo DUZO5EQD2hPI3sOBBWRSr3QjRBwodr2mf6Gf4= Received: by 10.68.211.166 with SMTP id nd6mr4172612pbc.125.1327144572298; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 03:16:12 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.241.8 with HTTP; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 03:15:51 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1327142541938-7210678.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1327142541938-7210678.post@n2.nabble.com> From: Xavier Scheuer Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 12:15:51 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: subdivideBeams et triolet To: nyko Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 209.85.160.41 Cc: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 11:16:18 -0000 2012/1/21 nyko : > Mais je n'obtiens pas le r=C3=A9sultat attendu. La subdivision ne fonctio= nne que > sur le deuxi=C3=A8me temps. > J'utilise la version de d=C3=A9veloppement 2.15. > Ce comportement est-il normal? Non. Normalement tu aurais d=C3=BB mettre \set beatStructure =3D #'(2 2 2 2) apr=C3=A8s le \set baseMoment =3D #(ly:make-moment 1 8) mais m=C3=AAme ai= nsi le probl=C3=A8me est toujours pr=C3=A9sent. Je viens de le signaler aux d=C3=A9veloppeurs comme bug. Il s'agit d'une r=C3=A9gression par rapport =C3=A0 la derni=C3=A8re version stable 2.14.2 (= qui fournit un r=C3=A9sultat correct). Cordialement, Xavier --=20 Xavier Scheuer From MAILER-DAEMON Sat Jan 21 06:40:41 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1RoZJJ-0004Qp-CF for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 06:40:41 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:45007) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RoZJH-0004Qj-8j for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 06:40:40 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RoZJF-0007nz-RE for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 06:40:39 -0500 Received: from smtp4-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.4]:42908) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RoZJF-0007ni-2A for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 06:40:37 -0500 Received: from [192.168.0.1] (unknown [82.252.23.250]) by smtp4-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61AE24C8536 for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 12:40:31 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4F1AA42E.1010307@free.fr> Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 12:40:30 +0100 From: Jean-Jacques Gerbaud User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (X11/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Subject: frescobaldi (encore) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 212.27.42.4 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 11:40:40 -0000 Bonjour =C3=A0 tous, je remercie nos aimables correspondants ( :-) ) qui m'ont permis=20 d'installer correctement Frescobaldi. Il est bien plus rapide que=20 LilypondTool qui reste quand m=C3=AAme un excellent outil et que je=20 n'abandonne pas encore, malgr=C3=A9 la belle pr=C3=A9sentation de Frescob= aldi. Cependant ce dernier, comme Lilypond, refuse de me jouer un son, bien=20 que tout "semble" correctement install=C3=A9. Il y a quelque chose qui manque chez moi mais je ne sais pas quoi. Je rappelle que je suis sous LinuxMint Katya, que le son fonctionne=20 correctement mais que les lecteurs midi de Jedit ou Frescobaldi restent=20 muets. Pour =C3=A9couter une partition je dois passer par le lecteur Bans= hee=20 qui me donne le r=C3=A9sultat de mon travail. Y a-t-il parmi vous quelqu'un qui pourra me donner quelque piste ? Merci d'avance Ah, j'ai d=C3=A9j=C3=A0 pos=C3=A9 ma question dans un autre message mais = comment mettre=20 les lignes dans le code source de Frescobaldi ? --=20 JJG From MAILER-DAEMON Sat Jan 21 08:08:50 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1Roagc-0006F8-NS for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 08:08:50 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:58157) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RoagW-00069W-NS for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 08:08:45 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RoagV-0000ZT-JI for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 08:08:44 -0500 Received: from sam.nabble.com ([216.139.236.26]:36882) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RoagV-0000ZN-F1 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 08:08:43 -0500 Received: from jim.nabble.com ([192.168.236.80]) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RoagT-0007jw-W1 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 05:08:41 -0800 Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 05:08:41 -0800 (PST) From: legoss To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Message-ID: <1327151321981-7210943.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <1318263334217-6877505.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1234963452249-2346820.post@n2.nabble.com> <200902190927.15152.dan@cartron.org> <1235041323942-2352380.post@n2.nabble.com> <200902191238.55431.dan@cartron.org> <7F41C939-2F57-4C33-90F1-7913C77FCDFF@free.fr> <8BF91B50-43D5-464A-88BC-CB326E03EDC0@free.fr> <499DC5B6.3000804@orange.fr> <1318263334217-6877505.post@n2.nabble.com> Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re:_LilypondTool_pour_les_fain=C3=A9ants_=3F?= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 216.139.236.26 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 13:08:45 -0000 C'est pas en rapport avec LilypondTool, mais au point o=C3=B9 en est la discussion... Alors, voil=C3=A0 : j'ai continu=C3=A9 =C3=A0 potasser sur le html et le ja= vascript. Pas de la tarte.. Et j'ai trouv=C3=A9 le moyen de saisie qui, pour l'instant, correspond =C3= =A0 mes aptitudes et =C3=A0 mes besoins. Tout =C3=A7a se trouve dans l'archive zip jointe. Lisez d'abord le pdf, ess= ayez le fichier html et d=C3=AEtes-moi ce que vous en pensez... Cordialement, Laurent http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabble.com/file/n7210943/clavierlil= ypond.zip clavierlilypond.zip=20 -- View this message in context: http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabbl= e.com/LilypondTool-pour-les-faineants-tp2346820p7210943.html Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From MAILER-DAEMON Sat Jan 21 08:35:10 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1Rob66-0002Wd-ND for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 08:35:10 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:51289) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rob64-0002VM-4F for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 08:35:09 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rob62-0003pb-Qz for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 08:35:08 -0500 Received: from sam.nabble.com ([216.139.236.26]:39294) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rob62-0003oE-NK for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 08:35:06 -0500 Received: from jim.nabble.com ([192.168.236.80]) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rob60-00020D-TU for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 05:35:04 -0800 Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 05:35:04 -0800 (PST) From: legoss To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Message-ID: <1327152904905-7210984.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <4F1A9C62.3060101@free.fr> References: <4F1A8303.10004@free.fr> <4F1A9C62.3060101@free.fr> Subject: Re: Frescobaldi MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 216.139.236.26 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 13:35:09 -0000 touche F11 ou affichage/afficher les num=C3=A9ros de lignes -- View this message in context: http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabbl= e.com/Frescobaldi-tp7210532p7210984.html Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From MAILER-DAEMON Sat Jan 21 09:16:18 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1Robju-0008Ge-Kf for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 09:16:18 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:60552) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Robjq-0008Fr-2P for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 09:16:16 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Robjm-0000AQ-Pf for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 09:16:14 -0500 Received: from mail-ww0-f49.google.com ([74.125.82.49]:33048) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Robjm-0000AG-9l for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 09:16:10 -0500 Received: by wgbds1 with SMTP id ds1so40776wgb.30 for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 06:16:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=yVF1Dm/UJ0iLJv0rrOC844k2rhE0QYKW7RW55PtvWP8=; b=du/O3iujnx5JSkO/D123lYr+3pbmg4T1KyRJk5lVK7jHIWOnTY25kZDp/Bqyw9oNlD nG/H+aJsg6RqnqKvbHOycTHuyGWylE+b+OovseENHBg1ovvXfkf52pL4Qd7AX2AzU/42 x4HTzcHtNcQWG1Zhe2OhA0/1F+56TtBvxdi3Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.75.212 with SMTP id e20mr2945902wiw.11.1327155369062; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 06:16:09 -0800 (PST) Sender: joel.brassart@gmail.com Received: by 10.223.151.1 with HTTP; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 06:16:08 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 15:16:08 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: MmiRpgN8Einpa9vXaGF30Bviw-E Message-ID: Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re=3A_Num=E9rotation_des_lignes_dans_Frescobaldi?= From: joel brassart To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d043890a555af0c04b70a7079 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 74.125.82.49 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 14:16:16 -0000 --f46d043890a555af0c04b70a7079 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Pour r=E9pondre =E0 JJG, les num=E9ros de lignes dans Frescobaldi peuvent = =EAtre affich=E9s via la barre de menus (raccourci : F11) Jo=EBl * "In a world without walls and fences, who needs Windows and Gates ?"* (anon.) Le 21 janvier 2012 14:08, a =E9crit : > Envoyez vos messages pour la liste lilypond-user-fr =E0 > lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org > > Pour vous (d=E9s)abonner par le web, consultez > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user-fr > > ou, par email, envoyez un message avec 'help' dans le corps ou dans le > sujet =E0 > lilypond-user-fr-request@gnu.org > > Vous pouvez contacter l'administrateur de la liste =E0 l'adresse > lilypond-user-fr-owner@gnu.org > > Si vous r=E9pondez, n'oubliez pas de changer l'objet du message afin > qu'il soit plus sp=E9cifique que "Re: Contenu du digest de > lilypond-user-fr..." > > Th=E8mes du jour : > > 1. Re: Alt=E9rations (legoss) > 2. Re: Alt=E9rations (Lo=EFc Chahine) > 3. Frescobaldi (Jean-Jacques Gerbaud) > 4. Re: Frescobaldi (Xavier Scheuer) > 5. Re: Frescobaldi (bameylan) > 6. subdivideBeams et triolet (nyko) > 7. Re: Frescobaldi (Jean-Jacques Gerbaud) > 8. Re: subdivideBeams et triolet (Xavier Scheuer) > 9. frescobaldi (encore) (Jean-Jacques Gerbaud) > 10. Re: LilypondTool pour les fain=E9ants ? (legoss) > > > ---------- Message transf=E9r=E9 ---------- > From: legoss > To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org > Cc: > Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 11:37:38 -0800 (PST) > Subject: Re: Alt=E9rations > Je me demande si on ne trouverait pas la r=E9ponse dans un bouquin de th= =E9orie > musicale... > Je me souviens m'=EAtre un jour pos=E9 les 2 questions suivantes sans avo= ir pu > trancher. > > - soit une tonalit=E9 de Do Mineur (3 b=E9mols). Dans une m=EAme mesure l= a > sensible (si b=E9carre) appara=EEt plusieurs fois. Faut-il le signaler > "b=E9carre" > =E0 chaque fois ou pas ? > - dans la mesure suivante le si redeviennent b=E9mol. Faut-il ou pas le > signaler "b=E9mol", sachant qu'il est d=E9j=E0 pr=E9sent =E0 la cl=E9? > > Ce ne sont pas des questions existentielles... mais quand-m=EAme. > Laurent. > > -- > View this message in context: > http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabble.com/Alterations-tp7204020p= 7208786.html > Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > > > ---------- Message transf=E9r=E9 ---------- > From: "Lo=EFc Chahine" > To: legoss , lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org > Cc: > Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 20:48:09 +0100 > Subject: Re: Alt=E9rations > Le 20/01/12 20:37, legoss a =E9crit : > >> Je me demande si on ne trouverait pas la r=E9ponse dans un bouquin de >> th=E9orie >> musicale... >> Je me souviens m'=EAtre un jour pos=E9 les 2 questions suivantes sans av= oir pu >> trancher. >> >> - soit une tonalit=E9 de Do Mineur (3 b=E9mols). Dans une m=EAme mesure = la >> sensible (si b=E9carre) appara=EEt plusieurs fois. Faut-il le signaler >> "b=E9carre" >> =E0 chaque fois ou pas ? >> > Normalement, non. En revanche, on le faisait =E0 l=92=E9poque baroque, o= =F9 > l=92alt=E9ration n=92=E9tait valable que pour la note qui la suivait imm= =E9diatement, > et jusqu=92=E0 ce qu=92on change de hauteur (exemple : sol di=E8se, la, s= ol di=E8se =3D > on met deux fois le di=E8se ; sol di=E8se, sol di=E8se, la =3D on met une= fois le > di=E8se). > Actuellement, une alt=E9ration, quelle qu=92elle soit, est valable pour l= a > mesure. Si elle rechange, elle doit =EAtre =E0 nouveau signal=E9e. Pour r= eprendre > mes exemple : =E7a d=E9pend =E7a chaque fois s=92il y a une barre de mesu= re entre > les deux sol di=E8ses ! s=92il y a barre, on remet, sinon, non. > >> - dans la mesure suivante le si redeviennent b=E9mol. Faut-il ou pas le >> signaler "b=E9mol", sachant qu'il est d=E9j=E0 pr=E9sent =E0 la cl=E9? >> > Th=E9oriquement, non, mais on le fait g=E9n=E9ralement pour le confort du > lecteur ;) Je crois qu=92on parle =97 en tout cas moi je le fais =97 d=92 > =93alt=E9ration de pr=E9caution=94. > Cordialement, > L. > > > > > ---------- Message transf=E9r=E9 ---------- > From: Jean-Jacques Gerbaud > To: lilypond-user-fr > Cc: > Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 10:18:59 +0100 > Subject: Frescobaldi > Bonjour =E0 tous, > > Normalement j'utilise Lilypond (2.15.19) et Jedit pour mes partitions. > J'ai un peu de mal pour faire des *belles* partition mais j'y arrive > quand m=EAme. > > Il y a quelque temps j'ai demand=E9 l'aide de la liste pour essayer de > faire fonctionner le lecteur midi qui subitement, s'est mis =E0 faire des > siennes et reste d=E9sesp=E9r=E9ment muet. > > En consultant les messages de la liste, je remarque que beaucoup d'entre > vous sont satisfaits de Frescobaldi et je voudrais bien l'essayer. (je > suis sous LinuxMint . Je l'ai utilis=E9 dans le temps lorsque j'=E9tais > encore sous KDE mais maintenant, je sous sous Gnome. > > Je l'ai donc install=E9 et ai ouvert un fichier lilypond avec Frescobaldi= . > Dans la partie de droite pr=E9vue pour voir le r=E9sultat de la compilati= on > de la partie gauche, au lieu de la partition attendue, apparait un messag= e > : > > impossible de charger le module popplerqt4. > > lorsque je clique sur "popplerqt4", j'arrive sur une page web me > proposant de t=E9l=E9charger "python-poppler-qt4", ce que je fais puis > l'installe avec les commande ad=E9quates demand=E9es . > > mint@LinuxMint ~/telechargements/python-**poppler-qt4-0.16.2 $ python > setup.py build > running build > running build_ext > > puis : > > mint@LinuxMint ~/telechargements/python-**poppler-qt4-0.16.2 $ sudo pytho= n > setup.py install --prefix /usr > sudo: unable to resolve host LinuxMint > [sudo] password for mint: > running install > running build > running build_ext > running install_lib > creating /usr/lib/python2.7/site-**packages > copying build/lib.linux-i686-2.7/**popplerqt4.so -> > /usr/lib/python2.7/site-**packages > running install_egg_info > Writing > /usr/lib/python2.7/site-**packages/python_poppler_qt4-0.** > 16.2-py2.7.egg-info > > Il semble donc que tout ce soit pass=E9 sans erreur mais.... le petit > message "impossible de charger le module popplerqt4" est toujours l=E0 = =E0 > l'ouverture d'un fichier .ly avec Frescobaldi. > > J'ai d=FB louper une =E9tape ou quelque chose et je ne sais plus quoi fai= re. > > Des id=E9es ? > > -- > JJG > > > > > > > ---------- Message transf=E9r=E9 ---------- > From: Xavier Scheuer > To: Jean-Jacques Gerbaud > Cc: lilypond-user-fr > Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 11:07:24 +0100 > Subject: Re: Frescobaldi > 2012/1/21 Jean-Jacques Gerbaud : > > > > Il semble donc que tout ce soit pass=E9 sans erreur mais.... le petit > > message "impossible de charger le module popplerqt4" est toujours l=E0 = =E0 > > l'ouverture d'un fichier .ly avec Frescobaldi. > > > > J'ai d=FB louper une =E9tape ou quelque chose et je ne sais plus quoi f= aire. > > > > Des id=E9es ? > > Salut, > > Wilbert a r=E9pondu a quelqu'un qui avait un probl=E8me similaire : > > http://groups.google.com/group/frescobaldi/browse_thread/thread/8b83526ff= 13f6dd0/3401f8187a6bae3d?lnk=3Dgst&q=3Dpopplerqt4#3401f8187a6bae3d > > Essayer python setup.py install --install-layout=3Ddeb > dans la commande d'installation de python-poppler-qt4 . > > Cordialement, > Xavier > > -- > Xavier Scheuer > > > > > ---------- Message transf=E9r=E9 ---------- > From: bameylan > To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org > Cc: > Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 02:41:08 -0800 (PST) > Subject: Re: Frescobaldi > Sans avoir tout lu, je te propose le lien suivant: > > http://www.pianopenguin.net/index.php?post/2011/12/20/Frescobaldi-2 > > qui m'a sauv=E9 d'un suicide pr=E9matur=E9 apr=E8s avoir =E0 peu pr=E8s = tout essay=E9 > concernant ce probl=E8me irritant du joyeux drille poppler... > > hth > > Bernard > > -- > View this message in context: > http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabble.com/Frescobaldi-tp7210532p= 7210673.html > Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > > > ---------- Message transf=E9r=E9 ---------- > From: nyko > To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org > Cc: > Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 02:42:21 -0800 (PST) > Subject: subdivideBeams et triolet > Bonjour =E0 tous, > > Je souhaite grouper des triolets de double. > > \version "2.15.24" > > \relative c'' { > \set tupletSpannerDuration =3D #(ly:make-moment 1 8) > \set subdivideBeams =3D ##t > \set baseMoment =3D #(ly:make-moment 1 8) > > \times 2/3 {d16 e d d e d d e d d e d d e d d e d d e d d e d | > d e d d e d d e d d e d d e d d e d d e d d e d } > } > > Mais je n'obtiens pas le r=E9sultat attendu. La subdivision ne fonctionne= que > sur le deuxi=E8me temps. > J'utilise la version de d=E9veloppement 2.15. > Ce comportement est-il normal? > > Merci d'avance pour votre aide. > > http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabble.com/file/n7210678/tupletSu= b.png > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabble.com/subdivideBeams-et-trio= let-tp7210678p7210678.html > Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > > > ---------- Message transf=E9r=E9 ---------- > From: Jean-Jacques Gerbaud > To: lilypond-user-fr > Cc: > Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 12:07:14 +0100 > Subject: Re: Frescobaldi > Xavier Scheuer a =E9crit : > >> 2012/1/21 Jean-Jacques Gerbaud : >> >>> Il semble donc que tout ce soit pass=E9 sans erreur mais.... le petit >>> message "impossible de charger le module popplerqt4" est toujours l=E0 = =E0 >>> l'ouverture d'un fichier .ly avec Frescobaldi. >>> >>> J'ai d=FB louper une =E9tape ou quelque chose et je ne sais plus quoi f= aire. >>> >>> Des id=E9es ? >>> >> >> Salut, >> >> Wilbert a r=E9pondu a quelqu'un qui avait un probl=E8me similaire : >> http://groups.google.com/**group/frescobaldi/browse_**thread/thread/** >> 8b83526ff13f6dd0/**3401f8187a6bae3d?lnk=3Dgst&q=3D** >> popplerqt4#3401f8187a6bae3d >> >> Essayer python setup.py install --install-layout=3Ddeb >> dans la commande d'installation de python-poppler-qt4 . >> >> Cordialement, >> Xavier >> >> > Merci Xavier mais ta suggestion n'a pas =E9t=E9 suffisante ! il a fallu q= ue je > prenne celle de bameylan qui elle, a fonctionn=E9 impeccablement bien ! > > Maintenant, une autre question qui n'a rien =E0 voir : > > comment mettre les N=B0 de lignes dans Frescobaldi, je n'ai pas trouv=E9. > > (je sais, j'aurais d=FB changer de sujet mais la r=E9ponse sera tellement > simple ...) > > -- > JJG > > > > > > ---------- Message transf=E9r=E9 ---------- > From: Xavier Scheuer > To: nyko > Cc: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org > Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 12:15:51 +0100 > Subject: Re: subdivideBeams et triolet > 2012/1/21 nyko : > > Mais je n'obtiens pas le r=E9sultat attendu. La subdivision ne fonction= ne > que > > sur le deuxi=E8me temps. > > J'utilise la version de d=E9veloppement 2.15. > > Ce comportement est-il normal? > > Non. > Normalement tu aurais d=FB mettre \set beatStructure =3D #'(2 2 2 2) > apr=E8s le \set baseMoment =3D #(ly:make-moment 1 8) mais m=EAme ainsi = le > probl=E8me est toujours pr=E9sent. > > Je viens de le signaler aux d=E9veloppeurs comme bug. Il s'agit d'une > r=E9gression par rapport =E0 la derni=E8re version stable 2.14.2 (qui fou= rnit > un r=E9sultat correct). > > Cordialement, > Xavier > > -- > Xavier Scheuer > > > > > ---------- Message transf=E9r=E9 ---------- > From: Jean-Jacques Gerbaud > To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org > Cc: > Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 12:40:30 +0100 > Subject: frescobaldi (encore) > Bonjour =E0 tous, > > je remercie nos aimables correspondants ( :-) ) qui m'ont permis > d'installer correctement Frescobaldi. Il est bien plus rapide que > LilypondTool qui reste quand m=EAme un excellent outil et que je n'abando= nne > pas encore, malgr=E9 la belle pr=E9sentation de Frescobaldi. > > Cependant ce dernier, comme Lilypond, refuse de me jouer un son, bien que > tout "semble" correctement install=E9. > > Il y a quelque chose qui manque chez moi mais je ne sais pas quoi. > > Je rappelle que je suis sous LinuxMint Katya, que le son fonctionne > correctement mais que les lecteurs midi de Jedit ou Frescobaldi restent > muets. Pour =E9couter une partition je dois passer par le lecteur Banshee= qui > me donne le r=E9sultat de mon travail. > > Y a-t-il parmi vous quelqu'un qui pourra me donner quelque piste ? > > Merci d'avance > > Ah, j'ai d=E9j=E0 pos=E9 ma question dans un autre message mais comment m= ettre > les lignes dans le code source de Frescobaldi ? > > -- > JJG > > > > > > ---------- Message transf=E9r=E9 ---------- > From: legoss > To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org > Cc: > Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 05:08:41 -0800 (PST) > Subject: Re: LilypondTool pour les fain=E9ants ? > C'est pas en rapport avec LilypondTool, mais au point o=F9 en est la > discussion... > Alors, voil=E0 : j'ai continu=E9 =E0 potasser sur le html et le javascrip= t. Pas > de > la tarte.. > Et j'ai trouv=E9 le moyen de saisie qui, pour l'instant, correspond =E0 m= es > aptitudes et =E0 mes besoins. > Tout =E7a se trouve dans l'archive zip jointe. Lisez d'abord le pdf, essa= yez > le fichier html et d=EEtes-moi ce que vous en pensez... > > Cordialement, > Laurent > > http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabble.com/file/n7210943/clavierl= ilypond.zip > clavierlilypond.zip > > -- > View this message in context: > http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabble.com/LilypondTool-pour-les-= faineants-tp2346820p7210943.html > Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > > _______________________________________________ > liste de diffusion lilypond-user-fr > lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user-fr > > --f46d043890a555af0c04b70a7079 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Pour r=E9pondre =E0 JJG, les num=E9ros de lignes dans Frescobaldi peuvent = =EAtre affich=E9s via la barre de menus <Affichage><Afficher les n= um=E9ros de ligne> (raccourci : F11)

Jo=EBl
= =A0
"In a world without walls and fences,
who needs Windows and Gates ?"
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Le 21 janvier 2012 14:08, <lilypond-user-= fr-request@gnu.org> a =E9crit :
Envoyez vos messages pour la liste lilypond-user-fr =E0
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Pour vous (d=E9s)abonner par le web, consultez
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ou, par email, envoyez un message avec 'help' dans le corps ou dans= le
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Si vous r=E9pondez, n'oubliez pas de changer l'objet du message afi= n
qu'il soit plus sp=E9cifique que "Re: Contenu du digest de
lilypond-user-fr..."

Th=E8mes du jour :

=A0 1. Re: Alt=E9rations (legoss)
=A0 2. Re: Alt=E9rations (Lo=EFc Chahine)
=A0 3. Frescobaldi (Jean-Jacques Gerbaud)
=A0 4. Re: Frescobaldi (Xavier Scheuer)
=A0 5. Re: Frescobaldi (bameylan)
=A0 6. subdivideBeams et triolet (nyko)
=A0 7. Re: Frescobaldi (Jean-Jacques Gerbaud)
=A0 8. Re: subdivideBeams et triolet (Xavier Scheuer)
=A0 9. frescobaldi (encore) (Jean-Jacques Gerbaud)
=A010. Re: LilypondTool pour les fain=E9ants ? (legoss)


---------- Message transf=E9r=E9 ----------
From:=A0legoss <<= a href=3D"mailto:laurent.escolier@aliceadsl.fr">laurent.escolier@aliceadsl.= fr>
To:=A0lilypond-us= er-fr@gnu.org
Cc:=A0
Date:=A0Fri, 20 Jan 2012 11:37:38 -0800 (PST)
Subject:=A0Re: A= lt=E9rations
Je me demande si on ne trouverait pas la r=E9ponse dans un = bouquin de th=E9orie
musicale...
Je me souviens m'=EAtre un jour pos=E9 les 2 questions suivantes sans a= voir pu
trancher.

- soit une tonalit=E9 de Do Mineur (3 b=E9mols). Dans une m=EAme mesure la<= br> sensible (si b=E9carre) appara=EEt plusieurs fois. Faut-il le signaler &quo= t;b=E9carre"
=E0 chaque fois ou pas ?
- dans la mesure suivante le si redeviennent b=E9mol. Faut-il ou pas le
signaler "b=E9mol", sachant qu'il est d=E9j=E0 pr=E9sent =E0 = la cl=E9?

Ce ne sont pas des questions existentielles... mais quand-m=EAme.
Laurent.

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---------- Message transf=E9r=E9 ----------
From:=A0"Lo=EFc= Chahine" <loic.chahine@= hotmail.fr>
To:=A0legoss <laurent.escolier@aliceadsl.fr>, lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org
Cc:=A0
Date:=A0Fri, 20 Jan 2012 20:48:09 +0100
Subject:=A0Re: Alt=E9r= ations
Le 20/01/12 20:37, legoss a =E9crit :
Je me demande si on ne trouverait pas la r=E9ponse dans un bouquin de th=E9= orie
musicale...
Je me souviens m'=EAtre un jour pos=E9 les 2 questions suivantes sans a= voir pu
trancher.

- soit une tonalit=E9 de Do Mineur (3 b=E9mols). Dans une m=EAme mesure la<= br> sensible (si b=E9carre) appara=EEt plusieurs fois. Faut-il le signaler &quo= t;b=E9carre"
=E0 chaque fois ou pas ?
Normalement, non. En revanche, on le faisait =E0 l=92=E9poque baroque, o=F9= l=92alt=E9ration n=92=E9tait valable que pour la note qui la suivait imm= =E9diatement, et jusqu=92=E0 ce qu=92on change de hauteur (exemple : sol di= =E8se, la, sol di=E8se =3D on met deux fois le di=E8se ; sol di=E8se, sol d= i=E8se, la =3D on met une fois le di=E8se).
Actuellement, une alt=E9ration, quelle qu=92elle soit, est valable pour la = mesure. Si elle rechange, elle doit =EAtre =E0 nouveau signal=E9e. Pour rep= rendre mes exemple : =E7a d=E9pend =E7a chaque fois s=92il y a une barre de= mesure entre les deux sol di=E8ses ! s=92il y a barre, on remet, sinon, no= n.
- dans la mesure suivante le si redeviennent b=E9mol. Faut-il ou pas le
signaler "b=E9mol", sachant qu'il est d=E9j=E0 pr=E9sent =E0 = la cl=E9?
Th=E9oriquement, non, mais on le fait g=E9n=E9ralement pour le confort du l= ecteur ;) Je crois qu=92on parle =97 en tout cas moi je le fais =97 d=92 = =93alt=E9ration de pr=E9caution=94.
Cordialement,
L.




---------- Message transf=E9r=E9 ----------
From:=A0Jean-Jacques= Gerbaud <jjgerbaud@free.fr>=
To:=A0lilypond-user-fr <= lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org>
Cc:=A0
Date:=A0Sat, 21 Jan 2012 10:18:59 +0100
Subject:=A0Frescobaldi=
Bonjour =E0 tous,

Normalement j'utilise Lilypond (2.15.19) et Jedit pour mes partitions.<= br> J'ai un peu de mal pour faire des *belles* partition mais j'y arriv= e
quand m=EAme.

Il y a quelque temps j'ai demand=E9 l'aide de la liste pour essayer= de
faire fonctionner le lecteur midi qui subitement, s'est mis =E0 faire d= es
siennes et reste d=E9sesp=E9r=E9ment muet.

En consultant les messages de la liste, je remarque que beaucoup d'entr= e
vous sont satisfaits de Frescobaldi et je voudrais bien l'essayer. (je<= br> suis sous LinuxMint . Je l'ai utilis=E9 dans le temps lorsque j'=E9= tais
encore sous KDE mais maintenant, je sous sous Gnome.

Je l'ai donc install=E9 et ai ouvert un fichier lilypond avec Frescobal= di.
Dans la partie de droite pr=E9vue pour voir le r=E9sultat de la compilation=
de la partie gauche, au lieu de la partition attendue, apparait un message = :

impossible de charger le module popplerqt4.

lorsque je clique sur "popplerqt4", j'arrive sur une page web= me
proposant de t=E9l=E9charger "python-poppler-qt4", ce que je fais= puis
l'installe avec les commande ad=E9quates demand=E9es .

mint@LinuxMint ~/telechargements/python-poppler-qt4-0.16.2 $ python<= br> setup.py build
running build
running build_ext

puis :

mint@LinuxMint ~/telechargements/python-poppler-qt4-0.16.2 $ sudo py= thon
setup.py install --prefix /usr
sudo: unable to resolve host LinuxMint
[sudo] password for mint:
running install
running build
running build_ext
running install_lib
creating /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages
copying build/lib.linux-i686-2.7/popplerqt4.so ->
/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages
running install_egg_info
Writing
/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/python_poppler_qt4-0.16.2-py= 2.7.egg-info

Il semble donc que tout ce soit pass=E9 sans erreur mais.... le petit
message "impossible de charger le module popplerqt4" est toujours= l=E0 =E0
l'ouverture d'un fichier .ly avec Frescobaldi.

J'ai d=FB louper une =E9tape ou quelque chose et je ne sais plus quoi f= aire.

Des id=E9es ?

--
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---------- Message transf=E9r=E9 ----------
From:=A0Xavier Scheu= er <x.scheuer@gmail.com>To:=A0Jean-Jacques Gerbaud <jjger= baud@free.fr>
Cc:=A0lilypond-user-fr <lily= pond-user-fr@gnu.org>
Date:=A0Sat, 21 Jan 2012 11:07:24 +0100
= Subject:=A0Re: Frescobaldi
2012/1/21 Jean-Jacques Gerbaud <jjgerbaud@free.fr>:
>
> Il semble donc que tout ce soit pass=E9 sans erreur mais.... le petit<= br> > message "impossible de charger le module popplerqt4" est tou= jours l=E0 =E0
> l'ouverture d'un fichier .ly avec Frescobaldi.
>
> J'ai d=FB louper une =E9tape ou quelque chose et je ne sais plus q= uoi faire.
>
> Des id=E9es ?

Salut,

Wilbert a r=E9pondu a quelqu'un qui avait un probl=E8me similaire :
http://groups.google.com/group/frescobaldi/browse_t= hread/thread/8b83526ff13f6dd0/3401f8187a6bae3d?lnk=3Dgst&q=3Dpopplerqt4= #3401f8187a6bae3d

Essayer =A0python setup.py install --install-layout=3Ddeb
dans la commande d'installation de =A0python-poppler-qt4 .

Cordialement,
Xavier

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---------- Message transf=E9r=E9 ----------
From:=A0bameylan <= ;bameylan@bluewin.ch>
To:= =A0lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org=
Cc:=A0
Date:=A0Sat, 21 Jan 2012 02:41:08 -0800 (PST)
Subject:=A0Re: Frescobaldi=
Sans avoir tout lu, je te propose le lien suivant:

http://www.pianopenguin.net/index.php?post/2011/12/2= 0/Frescobaldi-2

qui m'a sauv=E9 d'un suicide pr=E9matur=E9 =A0apr=E8s avoir =E0 peu= pr=E8s tout essay=E9
concernant ce probl=E8me irritant du joyeux drille poppler...

hth

Bernard

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---------- Message transf=E9r=E9 ----------
From:=A0nyko <nykolily@sfr.fr>
To:=A0lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org
Cc:=A0Date:=A0Sat, 21 Jan 2012 02:42:21 -0800 (PST)
Subject:=A0subdivideBeams et triolet
Bonjour =E0 tous,

Je souhaite grouper des triolets de double.

\version "2.15.24"

\relative c'' {
=A0\set tupletSpannerDuration =3D #(ly:make-moment 1 8)
=A0\set subdivideBeams =3D ##t
=A0\set baseMoment =3D #(ly:make-moment 1 8)

=A0\times 2/3 {d16 e d d e d d e d d e d d e d d e d d e d d e d |
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0d e d d e d d e d d e d d e d d e d d e d d e d= }
}

Mais je n'obtiens pas le r=E9sultat attendu. La subdivision ne fonction= ne que
sur le deuxi=E8me temps.
J'utilise la version de d=E9veloppement 2.15.
Ce comportement est-il normal?

Merci d'avance pour votre aide.
http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.n= abble.com/file/n7210678/tupletSub.png


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---------- Message transf=E9r=E9 ----------
From:=A0Jean-Jacques= Gerbaud <jjgerbaud@free.fr>=
To:=A0lilypond-user-fr <= lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org>
Cc:=A0
Date:=A0Sat, 21 Jan 2012 12:07:14 +0100
Subject:=A0Re: Frescob= aldi
Xavier Scheuer a =E9crit :
2012/1/21 Jean-Jacques Gerbaud <jjgerbaud@free.fr>:
Il semble donc que tout ce soit pass=E9 sans erreur mais.... le petit
message "impossible de charger le module popplerqt4" est toujours= l=E0 =E0
l'ouverture d'un fichier .ly avec Frescobaldi.

J'ai d=FB louper une =E9tape ou quelque chose et je ne sais plus quoi f= aire.

Des id=E9es ?

Salut,

Wilbert a r=E9pondu a quelqu'un qui avait un probl=E8me similaire :
http://groups.google.com/group/frescobaldi/b= rowse_thread/thread/8b83526ff13f6dd0/3401f8187a6bae3d?= lnk=3Dgst&q=3Dpopplerqt4#3401f8187a6bae3d

Essayer =A0python setup.py install --install-layout=3Ddeb
dans la commande d'installation de =A0python-poppler-qt4 .

Cordialement,
Xavier


Merci Xavier mais ta suggestion n'a pas =E9t=E9 suffisante ! il a fallu= que je prenne celle de bameylan =A0qui elle, a fonctionn=E9 impeccablement= bien !

Maintenant, une autre question qui n'a rien =E0 voir :

comment mettre les N=B0 de lignes dans Frescobaldi, je n'ai pas trouv= =E9.

(je sais, j'aurais d=FB changer de sujet mais la r=E9ponse sera telleme= nt simple ...)

--
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---------- Message transf=E9r=E9 ----------
From:=A0Xavier Scheu= er <x.scheuer@gmail.com>To:=A0nyko <nykolily@sfr.fr>=
Cc:=A0lilypond-user-fr@gnu.= org
Date:=A0Sat, 21 Jan 2012 12:15:51 +0100
Subject:=A0Re: subdivideBeams et= triolet
2012/1/21 nyko <nykolily@= sfr.fr>:
> Mais je n'obtiens pas le r=E9sultat attendu. La subdivision ne fon= ctionne que
> sur le deuxi=E8me temps.
> J'utilise la version de d=E9veloppement 2.15.
> Ce comportement est-il normal?

Non.
Normalement tu aurais d=FB mettre =A0\set beatStructure =3D #'(2 2 2 2)=
apr=E8s le =A0\set baseMoment =3D #(ly:make-moment 1 8) =A0mais m=EAme ains= i le
probl=E8me est toujours pr=E9sent.

Je viens de le signaler aux d=E9veloppeurs comme bug. =A0Il s'agit d= 9;une
r=E9gression par rapport =E0 la derni=E8re version stable 2.14.2 (qui fourn= it
un r=E9sultat correct).

Cordialement,
Xavier

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---------- Message transf=E9r=E9 ----------
From:=A0Jean-Jacques= Gerbaud <jjgerbaud@free.fr>=
To:=A0lilypond-user-fr@gnu.= org
Cc:=A0
Date:=A0Sat, 21 Jan 2012 12:40:30 +0100
Subject:=A0frescobaldi= (encore)
Bonjour =E0 tous,

je remercie nos aimables correspondants ( :-) ) qui m'ont permis d'= installer correctement Frescobaldi. Il est bien plus rapide que LilypondToo= l qui reste quand m=EAme un excellent outil et que je n'abandonne pas e= ncore, malgr=E9 la belle pr=E9sentation de Frescobaldi.

Cependant ce dernier, comme Lilypond, refuse de me jouer un son, bien que t= out "semble" correctement install=E9.

Il y a quelque chose qui manque chez moi mais je ne sais pas quoi.

Je rappelle que je suis sous LinuxMint Katya, que le son fonctionne correct= ement mais que les lecteurs midi de Jedit ou Frescobaldi restent muets. Pou= r =E9couter une partition je dois passer par le lecteur Banshee qui me donn= e le r=E9sultat de mon travail.

Y a-t-il parmi vous quelqu'un qui pourra me donner quelque piste ?

Merci d'avance

Ah, j'ai d=E9j=E0 pos=E9 ma question dans un autre message mais comment= mettre les lignes dans le code source de Frescobaldi ?

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---------- Message transf=E9r=E9 ----------
From:=A0legoss <<= a href=3D"mailto:laurent.escolier@aliceadsl.fr">laurent.escolier@aliceadsl.= fr>
To:=A0lilypond-us= er-fr@gnu.org
Cc:=A0
Date:=A0Sat, 21 Jan 2012 05:08:41 -0800 (PST)
Subject:=A0Re: L= ilypondTool pour les fain=E9ants ?
C'est pas en rapport avec Lilypon= dTool, mais au point o=F9 en est la
discussion...
Alors, voil=E0 : j'ai continu=E9 =E0 potasser sur le html et le javascr= ipt. Pas de
la tarte..
Et j'ai trouv=E9 le moyen de saisie qui, pour l'instant, correspond= =E0 mes
aptitudes et =E0 mes besoins.
Tout =E7a se trouve dans l'archive zip jointe. Lisez d'abord le pdf= , essayez
le fichier html et d=EEtes-moi ce que vous en pensez...

Cordialement,
Laurent
http://lilypond-french-users.129896= 0.n2.nabble.com/file/n7210943/clavierlilypond.zip
clavierlilypond.zip

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--f46d043890a555af0c04b70a7079-- From MAILER-DAEMON Sat Jan 21 09:17:22 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1Robkw-0008SW-RF for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 09:17:22 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:60695) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Robku-0008SO-EZ for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 09:17:21 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Robkt-0000FN-Hp for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 09:17:20 -0500 Received: from sam.nabble.com ([216.139.236.26]:44525) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Robkt-0000FI-CX for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 09:17:19 -0500 Received: from jim.nabble.com ([192.168.236.80]) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Robks-0007Zl-2p for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 06:17:18 -0800 Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 06:17:18 -0800 (PST) From: bameylan To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Message-ID: <1327155438069-7211081.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <1327152904905-7210984.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <4F1A8303.10004@free.fr> <4F1A9C62.3060101@free.fr> <1327152904905-7210984.post@n2.nabble.com> Subject: Re: Frescobaldi MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 216.139.236.26 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 14:17:21 -0000 legoss wrote >=20 > touche F11 ou affichage/afficher les num=C3=A9ros de lignes >=20 Non, justement... la version 2 de Fresco a abandonn=C3=A9 ce raccourci... i= l=20 [F11] correspond maintenant =C3=A0 "Plein =C3=A9cran"... Je crois que pour l'instant il n'y a plus d'affichage du num=C3=A9ros des l= ignes, ce qui est un demi-mal: lorsqu'une erreur est constat=C3=A9e, la/les ligne(= s) se colore(nt) en rouge. Mais ce num=C3=A9ro manque =C3=A0 mon avis... peut-=C3= =AAtre pour la prochaine version...? Bernard -- View this message in context: http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabbl= e.com/Frescobaldi-tp7210532p7211081.html Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From MAILER-DAEMON Sat Jan 21 09:18:54 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1RobmQ-0000Oh-Ej for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 09:18:54 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:60844) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RobmN-0000Ka-Cq for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 09:18:52 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RobmL-0000SA-S2 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 09:18:51 -0500 Received: from sam.nabble.com ([216.139.236.26]:44660) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RobmL-0000S2-O4 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 09:18:49 -0500 Received: from jim.nabble.com ([192.168.236.80]) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RobmL-0007k0-66 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 06:18:49 -0800 Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 06:18:49 -0800 (PST) From: legoss To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Message-ID: <1327155529180-7211085.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <1295727848789-5951521.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1295432772488-5939034.post@n2.nabble.com> <201101191428.28084.daniel@cartron.org> <1295607166762-5947245.post@n2.nabble.com> <1295727848789-5951521.post@n2.nabble.com> Subject: Re: besoin d'un coup de pouce pour Ooolilypond MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 216.139.236.26 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 14:18:52 -0000 =C3=87a y est, je lui ai remis la main dessus ce matin. Pour utiliser Ooolilypond avec Libreoffice 3.3.2 sous Ubuntu. =C3=87a devra= it aussi marcher sous les autres OS. 1. Aller http://sourceforge.net/projects/ooolilypond/files/ooolilypond/ ic= i=20 et t=C3=A9l=C3=A9charger le fichier le plus r=C3=A9cent. 2. Cliquer sur le fichier t=C3=A9l=C3=A9charg=C3=A9 : Libreoffice s'ouvre. = "OK" puis "Fermer" 3. Red=C3=A9marrer Libreoffice. 4. Aller dans outils/personnaliser/ En haut =C3=A0 droite cocher "Libreoffice" au lieu de Wirter. - Dans le cadre "raccourcis clavier", choisir "Ctrl+L" par exemple. - Dans le cadre "Cat=C3=A9gorie" aller dans Macros Libreoffice/User/ooolily= pond/ et choisir "ooolilypond" - Dans le cadre "Fonction", choisir "ooolilypond" - Cliquer en haut =C3=A0 droite sur "modifier" puis "OK" 5. Red=C3=A9marrer Libreoffice pour =C3=AAtre s=C3=BBr. 6. Cliquer sur l'ic=C3=B4ne en haut =C3=A0 gauche nomm=C3=A9 "Oly" ou taper= "Ctrl+L" au clavier, une fen=C3=AAtre s'ouvre : c'est l=C3=A0 qu'on ins=C3=A8re le code= Lilypond habituel. Saisissez puis OK.=20 7. Et voil=C3=A0 le travail ! Cordialement, Laurent -- View this message in context: http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabbl= e.com/besoin-d-un-coup-de-pouce-pour-Ooolilypond-tp5939034p7211085.html Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From MAILER-DAEMON Sat Jan 21 09:24:57 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1RobsH-0000t1-TZ for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 09:24:57 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:34485) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RobsG-0000sl-17 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 09:24:56 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RobsE-0000wa-Tw for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 09:24:55 -0500 Received: from smtp2-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.2]:33981) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RobsE-0000wF-A5 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 09:24:54 -0500 Received: from [192.168.0.1] (unknown [82.253.85.31]) by smtp2-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 203AF4B0554; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 15:24:47 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4F1ACAAE.8030209@free.fr> Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 15:24:46 +0100 From: Jean-Jacques Gerbaud User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (X11/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: legoss Subject: Re: Frescobaldi References: <4F1A8303.10004@free.fr> <4F1A9C62.3060101@free.fr> <1327152904905-7210984.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <1327152904905-7210984.post@n2.nabble.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 212.27.42.2 Cc: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 14:24:56 -0000 legoss a =E9crit : > touche F11 ou affichage/afficher les num=E9ros de lignes >=20 Merci Legoss d'avoir r=E9pondu (du moins je suppose que c'est =E0 moi que= tu=20 t'adresses ! :-) D=E9sol=E9, je n'ai pas cette option dans affichage (je me doutais bien q= ue=20 =E7a devait =EAtre par l=E0 mais non...) Voil=E0 les options dans Affichage dans ma version de Frescobaldi - Document suivant - Document pr=E9c=E9dent - Coloration syntaxique (coch=E9e) - Aper=E7u - Rep=E9rer la ligne courante - Rep=E8re suivant - Rep=E8re pr=E9c=E9dent - Effacer tous les rep=E8res d'erreur - Effacer tous les rep=E8res - Message d'erreur suivant -Message d'erreur pr=E9c=E9dent. C'est tout. Cependant, dans la partie interm=E9diaire entre le code de lilypond et le= =20 r=E9sultat de la compilation (en bas =E0 gauche) j'ai une ligne qui me do= nne=20 le N=B0 de la ligne o=F9 est plac=E9 mon curseur. Evidemment, c'est mieux= que=20 rien mais je pr=E9f=E8rerais avoir les N=B0 des lignes pour un confort vi= suel. Quant =E0 la Touche F11, elle me met Frescobaldi en plein =E9cran. Et maintenant ? C'est quelque chose dans ma configuration qui n'est pas=20 bon ? --=20 JJG From MAILER-DAEMON Sat Jan 21 09:36:43 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1Roc3f-00025I-D0 for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 09:36:43 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:44102) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Roc3d-00023j-8t for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 09:36:42 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Roc3c-0002Da-8U for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 09:36:41 -0500 Received: from sam.nabble.com ([216.139.236.26]:46429) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Roc3c-0002DW-3Y for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 09:36:40 -0500 Received: from jim.nabble.com ([192.168.236.80]) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Roc3a-0001M7-Pg for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 06:36:38 -0800 Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 06:36:38 -0800 (PST) From: legoss To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Message-ID: <1327156598788-7211121.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <4F1ACAAE.8030209@free.fr> References: <4F1A8303.10004@free.fr> <4F1A9C62.3060101@free.fr> <1327152904905-7210984.post@n2.nabble.com> <4F1ACAAE.8030209@free.fr> Subject: Re: Frescobaldi MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 216.139.236.26 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 14:36:42 -0000 Ton config est OK ! C'est juste que toi et moi n'avons pas la m=C3=AAme version. M'enfin, c'est vrai que c'est pratique de pouvoir afficher ou pas les num=C3=A9ros de lignes =C3=A0 sa guise... -- View this message in context: http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabbl= e.com/Frescobaldi-tp7210532p7211121.html Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From MAILER-DAEMON Sat Jan 21 09:45:21 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1RocC1-0003Cl-1P for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 09:45:21 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:44817) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RocBz-0003Ca-1n for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 09:45:20 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RocBw-0003Dm-PY for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 09:45:19 -0500 Received: from smtp2-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.2]:50719) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RocBw-0003Cw-0w for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 09:45:16 -0500 Received: from [192.168.0.1] (unknown [82.253.85.31]) by smtp2-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D8354B056A; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 15:45:10 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4F1ACF74.7070806@free.fr> Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 15:45:08 +0100 From: Jean-Jacques Gerbaud User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (X11/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bameylan Subject: Re: Frescobaldi References: <4F1A8303.10004@free.fr> <4F1A9C62.3060101@free.fr> <1327152904905-7210984.post@n2.nabble.com> <1327155438069-7211081.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <1327155438069-7211081.post@n2.nabble.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 212.27.42.2 Cc: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 14:45:20 -0000 bameylan a =E9crit : > legoss wrote >> touche F11 ou affichage/afficher les num=E9ros de lignes >> >=20 > Non, justement... la version 2 de Fresco a abandonn=E9 ce raccourci... = il=20 > [F11] correspond maintenant =E0 "Plein =E9cran"... C'est ce que je viens de r=E9pondre =E0 Legoss. > Je crois que pour l'instant il n'y a plus d'affichage du num=E9ros des = lignes, > ce qui est un demi-mal: lorsqu'une erreur est constat=E9e, la/les ligne= (s) se > colore(nt) en rouge.=20 Effectivement. C'est d=E9j=E0 un bon rep=E8re visuel et, en faisant d=E9f= iler le=20 code, on rep=E8re imm=E9diatement la ligne fautive. Mais ce num=E9ro manque =E0 mon avis... oui, tout =E0 fait d'accord. peut-=EAtre pour la > prochaine version...? oui mais avec la gal=E8re que je viens de passer pour l'installer, je ne=20 pense pas que je passerai =E0 la prochaine version ces prochains mois... --=20 JJG (En raison du degr=E9 important de mon "oublitude", je demande =E0 mes correspondants de me pr=E9venir =E0 l'approche d'un rendez-vous prochain) From MAILER-DAEMON Sat Jan 21 09:45:36 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1RocCG-0003J9-4C for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 09:45:36 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:44874) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RocCD-0003Gx-1L for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 09:45:33 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RocCC-0003FJ-28 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 09:45:33 -0500 Received: from sam.nabble.com ([216.139.236.26]:47338) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RocCB-0003FF-P5 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 09:45:31 -0500 Received: from jim.nabble.com ([192.168.236.80]) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RocCA-0002N4-QK for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 06:45:30 -0800 Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 06:45:30 -0800 (PST) From: legoss To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Message-ID: <1327157130808-7211142.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <1327156598788-7211121.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <4F1A8303.10004@free.fr> <4F1A9C62.3060101@free.fr> <1327152904905-7210984.post@n2.nabble.com> <4F1ACAAE.8030209@free.fr> <1327156598788-7211121.post@n2.nabble.com> Subject: Re: Frescobaldi MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 216.139.236.26 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 14:45:34 -0000 D'ailleurs, je ne parviens pas =C3=A0 la mettre =C3=A0 jour. Peut-=C3=AAtre parce que je tourne sous une Tango Studio (D=C3=A9riv=C3=A9e= de Ubuntu 10.04). Si quelqu'un conna=C3=AEt la manip, qui me permettrait de mettre = =C3=A0 jour l'application sans mettre =C3=A0 niveau le syst=C3=A8me... Cordialement, Laurent -- View this message in context: http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabbl= e.com/Frescobaldi-tp7210532p7211142.html Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From MAILER-DAEMON Sat Jan 21 10:09:13 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1RocZ7-0005bO-6A for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 10:09:13 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:48998) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RocZ4-0005a5-O0 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 10:09:11 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RocZ3-0006Bg-Cp for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 10:09:10 -0500 Received: from sam.nabble.com ([216.139.236.26]:49903) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RocZ3-0006BC-3F for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 10:09:09 -0500 Received: from jim.nabble.com ([192.168.236.80]) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RocZ1-0005SN-Sr for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 07:09:07 -0800 Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 07:09:07 -0800 (PST) From: legoss To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Message-ID: <1327158547887-7211191.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <1327157130808-7211142.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <4F1A8303.10004@free.fr> <4F1A9C62.3060101@free.fr> <1327152904905-7210984.post@n2.nabble.com> <4F1ACAAE.8030209@free.fr> <1327156598788-7211121.post@n2.nabble.com> <1327157130808-7211142.post@n2.nabble.com> Subject: Re: Frescobaldi MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 216.139.236.26 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 15:09:11 -0000 Petit tour dans la console. Les d=C3=A9p=C3=B4ts sont tous mis =C3=A0 jour. =20 Une id=C3=A9e ? -- View this message in context: http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabbl= e.com/Frescobaldi-tp7210532p7211191.html Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From MAILER-DAEMON Sat Jan 21 10:09:41 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1RocZZ-0005fz-BS for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 10:09:41 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:41632) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RocZX-0005fm-FQ for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 10:09:40 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RocZW-0006JC-NX for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 10:09:39 -0500 Received: from sam.nabble.com ([216.139.236.26]:49923) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RocZW-0006Is-8s for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 10:09:38 -0500 Received: from jim.nabble.com ([192.168.236.80]) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RocZV-0005UF-5g for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 07:09:37 -0800 Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 07:09:37 -0800 (PST) From: bameylan To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Message-ID: <1327158577155-7211193.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <1327157130808-7211142.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <4F1A8303.10004@free.fr> <4F1A9C62.3060101@free.fr> <1327152904905-7210984.post@n2.nabble.com> <4F1ACAAE.8030209@free.fr> <1327156598788-7211121.post@n2.nabble.com> <1327157130808-7211142.post@n2.nabble.com> Subject: Re: Frescobaldi MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 216.139.236.26 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 15:09:40 -0000 Et puisqu'on est dans l'=C3=A9vocation de probl=C3=A8mes li=C3=A9s =C3=A0 F= resco, je ne suis pas arriv=C3=A9 =C3=A0 faire enregistrer mon fichier ailleurs que dans \tmp... = Lorsque je lance le visionnage pdf avec ctrl-M, le pdf g=C3=A9n=C3=A9r=C3=A9 l'est seu= lement =C3=A0 partir du fichier temporaire... Pour l'avoir dans le dossier habituel il faut d'abord l'enregistrer (ctrl-S) et seulement ensuite M=C3=B4ssieur lance sa visualisation dans le dossier originel... Dans la version pr=C3=A9c=C3=A9de= nte (1.2) cela se faisait de mani=C3=A8re automatique... Quid...? Bernard -- View this message in context: http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabbl= e.com/Frescobaldi-tp7210532p7211193.html Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From MAILER-DAEMON Sat Jan 21 10:12:41 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1RoccT-00063u-M9 for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 10:12:41 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:42343) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RoccR-00063m-Ci for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 10:12:40 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RoccN-0006f5-94 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 10:12:39 -0500 Received: from sam.nabble.com ([216.139.236.26]:50466) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RoccN-0006ez-5U for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 10:12:35 -0500 Received: from jim.nabble.com ([192.168.236.80]) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RoccM-00061M-BJ for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 07:12:34 -0800 Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 07:12:34 -0800 (PST) From: bameylan To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Message-ID: <1327158754342-7211202.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <1327158547887-7211191.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <4F1A8303.10004@free.fr> <4F1A9C62.3060101@free.fr> <1327152904905-7210984.post@n2.nabble.com> <4F1ACAAE.8030209@free.fr> <1327156598788-7211121.post@n2.nabble.com> <1327157130808-7211142.post@n2.nabble.com> <1327158547887-7211191.post@n2.nabble.com> Subject: Re: Frescobaldi MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 216.139.236.26 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 15:12:40 -0000 legoss wrote >=20 > Petit tour dans la console. [...] > Une id=C3=A9e ? >=20 La seule qui me vienne =C3=A0 l'esprit: la version 2.0 venant de sortir, utilisant des biblioth=C3=A8ques compl=C3=A8tement diff=C3=A9rentes, n'est = pas dans les d=C3=A9p=C3=B4ts... ce qui est plus =C3=A9trange c'est que tu n'obtiennes m= =C3=AAme pas la 1.2... cela fait un bout de temps qu'elle est sortie, celle-l=C3=A0. Bernard -- View this message in context: http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabbl= e.com/Frescobaldi-tp7210532p7211202.html Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From MAILER-DAEMON Sat Jan 21 10:33:11 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1RocwJ-0001CS-VH for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 10:33:11 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:34592) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RocwH-0001CM-O2 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 10:33:10 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RocwG-0000ge-Jn for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 10:33:09 -0500 Received: from sam.nabble.com ([216.139.236.26]:52378) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RocwG-0000gX-Du for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 10:33:08 -0500 Received: from jim.nabble.com ([192.168.236.80]) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RocwD-0008E6-6w for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 07:33:05 -0800 Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 07:33:05 -0800 (PST) From: flup To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Message-ID: <1327159985196-7211241.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <1327158754342-7211202.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <4F1A8303.10004@free.fr> <4F1A9C62.3060101@free.fr> <1327152904905-7210984.post@n2.nabble.com> <4F1ACAAE.8030209@free.fr> <1327156598788-7211121.post@n2.nabble.com> <1327157130808-7211142.post@n2.nabble.com> <1327158547887-7211191.post@n2.nabble.com> <1327158754342-7211202.post@n2.nabble.com> Subject: Re: Frescobaldi MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 216.139.236.26 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 15:33:10 -0000 Concernant la num=C3=A9rotation des lignes, elle est =C3=A0 l'=C3=A9tude; l= 'auteur envisage de la coupler avec un syst=C3=A8me permettant de "plier-d=C3=A9plier" des = =C3=A9l=C3=A9ments de structure (comme dans JEdit), ce qui serait bien pratique pour des grandes constructions. Pour ceux qui se d=C3=A9brouillent avec l'anglais, n'h=C3=A9= sitez pas =C3=A0 faire un tour sur la liste de diffusion de frescobaldi :=20 http://groups.google.com/group/frescobaldi http://groups.google.com/group/frescobaldi=20 Concernant l'installation sous Linux, elle ressemble =C3=A0 celle sous mac = (assez p=C3=A9nible la premi=C3=A8re fois); cependant, il ne faut pas s'y tromper = : ce qui est p=C3=A9nible, c'est l'installation des d=C3=A9pendances (et les d=C3=A9= p=C3=B4ts, si on passe par l=C3=A0). Une fois qu'elles y sont, la mise =C3=A0 jour de fresco= baldi lui-m=C3=AAme n'est absolument pas un souci. Pas de peur =C3=A0 avoir (une = fois que =C3=A7a marche) pour le futur, donc. Philippe -- View this message in context: http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabbl= e.com/Frescobaldi-tp7210532p7211241.html Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From MAILER-DAEMON Sat Jan 21 11:41:47 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1Roe0h-0005As-4v for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 11:41:47 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:54592) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Roe0e-00059b-Be for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 11:41:45 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Roe0d-0000Ab-DF for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 11:41:44 -0500 Received: from sam.nabble.com ([216.139.236.26]:59297) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Roe0d-0000AX-6a for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 11:41:43 -0500 Received: from jim.nabble.com ([192.168.236.80]) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Roe0c-0007Y4-0O for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 08:41:42 -0800 Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 08:41:41 -0800 (PST) From: legoss To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Message-ID: <1327164101891-7211397.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <1327158577155-7211193.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <4F1A8303.10004@free.fr> <4F1A9C62.3060101@free.fr> <1327152904905-7210984.post@n2.nabble.com> <4F1ACAAE.8030209@free.fr> <1327156598788-7211121.post@n2.nabble.com> <1327157130808-7211142.post@n2.nabble.com> <1327158577155-7211193.post@n2.nabble.com> Subject: Re: Frescobaldi MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 216.139.236.26 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 16:41:45 -0000 bameylan wrote >=20 > Dans la version pr=C3=A9c=C3=A9dente (1.2) cela se faisait de mani=C3=A8r= e automatique... > Quid...? >=20 Vu qu'on n'utilise pas tous la m=C3=AAme version de Frescobaldi, ni la m=C3= =AAme version d'Ubuntu, =C3=A7a ne va pas =C3=AAtre simple de r=C3=A9pondre aux q= uestions qu'on se pose ici... -- View this message in context: http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabbl= e.com/Frescobaldi-tp7210532p7211397.html Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From MAILER-DAEMON Sat Jan 21 12:50:02 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1Rof4k-0002EF-OW for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 12:50:02 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:44904) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rof4h-0002Ac-Ih for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 12:50:00 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rof4g-00081Y-IE for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 12:49:59 -0500 Received: from mail-pz0-f41.google.com ([209.85.210.41]:58786) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rof4g-00081T-C1 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 12:49:58 -0500 Received: by dang27 with SMTP id g27so1057076dan.0 for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 09:49:57 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=bjk7MgFdYriJMxZQ2bAja0Xn7xuq22ZFlE2sw+bx3jA=; b=bKTnZNI+PvXxNuybnBAmrT1n9TiMueyMZofoc/ui7klRxdWpBPLXi9xf7hvKbLrPD6 lV2YKQ9SH+0fTRGEgod8qCthBUE4Bwo900l7dyBwjej/JhXMM0YG+LejGj60atu/tfFJ dDYhJjbrZJUG+9yGqlUcfpTEktHM39bvEIWY8= Received: by 10.68.73.68 with SMTP id j4mr6359161pbv.40.1327168195306; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 09:49:55 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.241.8 with HTTP; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 09:49:35 -0800 (PST) From: Xavier Scheuer Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 18:49:35 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Frescobaldi To: joel brassart , Jean-Jacques Gerbaud Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 209.85.210.41 Cc: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 17:50:00 -0000 2012/1/21 joel brassart : > Pour r=C3=A9pondre =C3=A0 JJG, les num=C3=A9ros de lignes dans Frescobald= i peuvent =C3=AAtre > affich=C3=A9s via la barre de menus > (raccourci : F11) Bonsoir, Cela =C3=A9tait valable pour l'ancienne version de Frescobaldi. Je pense que cette fonctionnalit=C3=A9s n'est plus pr=C3=A9sente dans la ve= rsion 2.0. Elle me manque =C3=A9galement (m=C3=AAme si le num=C3=A9ro de la lign= e courante est affich=C3=A9) et d'autres l'ont mentionn=C3=A9. http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2011-05/msg00301.html Jean-Jacques, tu pourrais demander =C3=A0 Wilbert : http://groups.google.com/group/frescobaldi Cordialement, Xavier --=20 Xavier Scheuer From MAILER-DAEMON Sat Jan 21 15:31:38 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1Rohb8-0003Yg-MC for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 15:31:38 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:35449) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rohb6-0003WS-7X for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 15:31:37 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rohb4-0008Vz-JC for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 15:31:36 -0500 Received: from sam.nabble.com ([216.139.236.26]:47850) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rohb4-0008Vv-Ew for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 15:31:34 -0500 Received: from jim.nabble.com ([192.168.236.80]) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rohb2-0003PK-04 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 12:31:32 -0800 Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 12:31:31 -0800 (PST) From: bameylan To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Message-ID: <1327177891645-7211786.post@n2.nabble.com> Subject: Donner une valeur aux notes \grace MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 216.139.236.26 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 20:31:37 -0000 Bonsoir/jour =C3=A0 tous, je reproduis une partition de Cl=C3=A9rambault, o=C3=B9 dans une mesure, le= s notes se d=C3=A9roulent comme suit: noire point=C3=A9e - notes d'agr=C3=A9ment: 1 dblcroche, 2 trplcroches - no= ire point=C3=A9e - croche Le code: r4 d4~d16[ e fis g a b cis a] d4. d8 d2~d d4 e \afterGrace fis4. {e16[( d32 e])} e4. d8 Le probl=C3=A8me =C3=A9tant que, comme les aftergrace n'ayant pas de "dur= =C3=A9e" stricto sensu, la mesure est trop courte d'une croche. On pourrait -ce que j'ai fait- =C3=A9crire des notes: e16[( d32 e]) en notation normale, ce qui r=C3= =A9tablit l'=C3=A9quilibre m=C3=A9trique de la mesure. Mais j'aimerais respecter la g= raphie originale en r=C3=A9duisant la taille de ces 3 notes, non seulement pour le= s t=C3=AAtes de notes, mais aussi les hampes *et leur longueur*, et aussi les ligatures. En gros, les notes d'agr=C3=A9ment sont parfaite du point de vue proportions, mais ne prennent pas de place... d'o=C3=B9 la mesure trop cour= te. Quelle est =C3=A0 votre avis la meilleure solution: utiliser des notes "nor= males" en r=C3=A9duisant leur taille dans tous les sens, ou bien utiliser des note= s d'agr=C3=A9ment en leur donnant une valeur (ici: une croche)? Bernard -- View this message in context: http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabbl= e.com/Donner-une-valeur-aux-notes-grace-tp7211786p7211786.html Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From MAILER-DAEMON Sat Jan 21 16:40:17 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1RoifZ-0004Vl-Pu for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 16:40:17 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:40604) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RoifR-0004VL-TH for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 16:40:15 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RoifM-0006eU-4k for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 16:40:09 -0500 Received: from smtp5-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.5]:56737) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RoifL-0006dL-F8 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 16:40:04 -0500 Received: from [88.184.126.48] (unknown [88.184.126.48]) by smtp5-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10851D48359 for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 22:39:56 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4F1B30B6.40902@free.fr> Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 22:40:06 +0100 From: =?UTF-8?B?UGhpbCBIw6l6YWluZQ==?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:9.0) Gecko/20120117 Thunderbird/9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Subject: Re: LilypondTool pour les =?UTF-8?B?ZmFpbsOpYW50cyA/?= References: <1234963452249-2346820.post@n2.nabble.com> <200902190927.15152.dan@cartron.org> <1235041323942-2352380.post@n2.nabble.com> <200902191238.55431.dan@cartron.org> <7F41C939-2F57-4C33-90F1-7913C77FCDFF@free.fr> <8BF91B50-43D5-464A-88BC-CB326E03EDC0@free.fr> <499DC5B6.3000804@orange.fr> <1318263334217-6877505.post@n2.nabble.com> <1327151321981-7210943.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <1327151321981-7210943.post@n2.nabble.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 212.27.42.5 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 21:40:15 -0000 Le 21/01/2012 14:08, legoss a =C3=A9crit : > C'est pas en rapport avec LilypondTool, mais au point o=C3=B9 en est la > discussion... > Alors, voil=C3=A0 : j'ai continu=C3=A9 =C3=A0 potasser sur le html et l= e javascript. Pas de > la tarte.. > Et j'ai trouv=C3=A9 le moyen de saisie qui, pour l'instant, correspond = =C3=A0 mes > aptitudes et =C3=A0 mes besoins. > Tout =C3=A7a se trouve dans l'archive zip jointe. Lisez d'abord le pdf,= essayez > le fichier html et d=C3=AEtes-moi ce que vous en pensez... > > Cordialement, > Laurent > http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabble.com/file/n7210943/clavie= rlilypond.zip > clavierlilypond.zip > Hello, Ah oui, marrant. Je trouve =C3=A7a int=C3=A9ressant. Mon id=C3=A9e serait= surtout de=20 pouvoir l'utiliser pour entrer les symboles de percussions et comme tu=20 nous donnes tous les moyens pour configurer les boutons je ne vois pas=20 ce qui pourrait l'emp=C3=AAcher, bien que je ne connaisse pas java. Tout = le=20 travail semble m=C3=A2ch=C3=A9. Mais je me demande s'il est possible d'afficher sur les touches m=C3=AAme= s de=20 l'interface graphique le nom d'un symbole, par exemple sna ou cymch...=20 pour qu'il soit visible par un utilisateur. 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From MAILER-DAEMON Sat Jan 21 17:29:07 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1RojQp-0002ir-2w for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 17:29:07 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:45725) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RojQm-0002il-Od for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 17:29:05 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RojQl-0002mJ-OT for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 17:29:04 -0500 Received: from smtp10.smtpout.orange.fr ([80.12.242.132]:25559 helo=smtp.smtpout.orange.fr) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RojQl-0002m6-EK for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 17:29:03 -0500 Received: from drums ([90.1.104.221]) by mwinf5d19 with ME id QNUz1i00E4md80S03NV0cJ; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 23:29:01 +0100 Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 23:28:59 +0100 From: Denis =?ISO-8859-15?B?Qml0b3V66Q==?= To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Subject: Re: Frescobaldi Message-ID: <20120121232859.6ab5fb13@drums> In-Reply-To: <1327164101891-7211397.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <4F1A8303.10004@free.fr> <4F1A9C62.3060101@free.fr> <1327152904905-7210984.post@n2.nabble.com> <4F1ACAAE.8030209@free.fr> <1327156598788-7211121.post@n2.nabble.com> <1327157130808-7211142.post@n2.nabble.com> <1327158577155-7211193.post@n2.nabble.com> <1327164101891-7211397.post@n2.nabble.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.10 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i586-mandriva-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.12.242.132 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 22:29:05 -0000 Le samedi 21/01/12 =E0 08h41, legoss a =E9crit : > ni la m=EAme version d'Ubuntu Sans compter que je suis sous Mandriva, et que je ne parviens pas =E0 compiler popplerqt4 ;) --=20 Denis From MAILER-DAEMON Sat Jan 21 17:58:48 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1RojtY-0002Cc-71 for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 17:58:48 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:56244) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RojtV-0002CK-MU for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 17:58:46 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RojtU-0005jG-DO for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 17:58:45 -0500 Received: from sam.nabble.com ([216.139.236.26]:56445) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RojtU-0005j9-7i for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 17:58:44 -0500 Received: from jim.nabble.com ([192.168.236.80]) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RojtS-0006rz-Tz for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 14:58:42 -0800 Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 14:58:42 -0800 (PST) From: Eluze To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Message-ID: <1327186722923-7212069.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <1327177891645-7211786.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1327177891645-7211786.post@n2.nabble.com> Subject: Re: Donner une valeur aux notes \grace MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 216.139.236.26 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 22:58:46 -0000 bameylan wrote >=20 > Bonsoir/jour =C3=A0 tous, >=20 > r4 d4~d16[ e fis g a b cis a] d4. d8 d2~d d4 e \afterGrace fis4. {e16[( > d32 e])} e4. d8 >=20 > Le probl=C3=A8me =C3=A9tant que, comme les aftergrace n'ayant pas de "dur= =C3=A9e" stricto > sensu, la mesure est trop courte d'une croche. On pourrait -ce que j'ai > fait- =C3=A9crire des notes: e16[( d32 e]) en notation normale, ce qui r= =C3=A9tablit > l'=C3=A9quilibre m=C3=A9trique de la mesure. Mais j'aimerais respecter la= graphie > originale en r=C3=A9duisant la taille de ces 3 notes, non seulement pour = les > t=C3=AAtes de notes, mais aussi les hampes *et leur longueur*, et aussi l= es > ligatures. En gros, les notes d'agr=C3=A9ment sont parfaite du point de v= ue > proportions, mais ne prennent pas de place... d'o=C3=B9 la mesure trop co= urte. >=20 > Quelle est =C3=A0 votre avis la meilleure solution: utiliser des notes > "normales" en r=C3=A9duisant leur taille dans tous les sens, ou bien util= iser > des notes d'agr=C3=A9ment en leur donnant une valeur (ici: une croche)? >=20 r=C3=A9duire la taille de tous les grobs!? je pense qu'il doit y avoir une fonction qui en serait capable=E2=80=A6 une autre id=C3=A9e: mettre l'aftergrace dans une voix parall=C3=A8le/simultan=C3=A9e pendant qu= e la voix "normale" continue tout simplement avec des spacer: \new Voice =3D "1" \relative c'' { r4 d4~d16[ e fis g a b cis a] d4. d8 d2~ d d4 e << \context Voice =3D "1" { fis4. s8 } \context Voice =3D "2" { \afterGrace s4. {e16[( d32 e)]} } >> e4. d8 | } bonne soir=C3=A9e! Eluze -- View this message in context: http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabbl= e.com/Donner-une-valeur-aux-notes-grace-tp7211786p7212069.html Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From MAILER-DAEMON Sat Jan 21 18:41:43 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1RokZ5-0000yy-38 for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 18:41:43 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:57635) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RokZ3-0000ys-9h for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 18:41:41 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RokZ2-0001Xn-7U for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 18:41:41 -0500 Received: from smtp2-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.2]:45391) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RokZ1-0001XX-I3 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 18:41:40 -0500 Received: from [192.168.0.1] (unknown [82.253.85.31]) by smtp2-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0FAC4B0049; Sun, 22 Jan 2012 00:41:32 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4F1B4D2C.4090806@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 00:41:32 +0100 From: JJG User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (X11/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Eluze Subject: Re: Donner une valeur aux notes \grace References: <1327177891645-7211786.post@n2.nabble.com> <1327186722923-7212069.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <1327186722923-7212069.post@n2.nabble.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 212.27.42.2 Cc: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 23:41:42 -0000 Eluze a =C3=A9crit : > bameylan wrote >> Bonsoir/jour =C3=A0 tous, >> >> r4 d4~d16[ e fis g a b cis a] d4. d8 d2~d d4 e \afterGrace fis4. {e16[= ( >> d32 e])} e4. d8 >> >> Le probl=C3=A8me =C3=A9tant que, comme les aftergrace n'ayant pas de "= dur=C3=A9e" stricto >> sensu, la mesure est trop courte d'une croche. On pourrait -ce que j'a= i ......... (snip) ...... > une autre id=C3=A9e: >=20 > mettre l'aftergrace dans une voix parall=C3=A8le/simultan=C3=A9e pendan= t que la voix > "normale" continue tout simplement avec des spacer: >=20 > \new Voice =3D "1" \relative c'' { > r4 d4~d16[ e fis g a b cis a] > d4. d8 d2~ > d d4 e > << > \context Voice =3D "1" { fis4. s8 } > \context Voice =3D "2" { \afterGrace s4. {e16[( d32 e)]} > } > >> > e4. d8 | > } >=20 > bonne soir=C3=A9e! > Eluze Bonsoir =C3=A0 tous. Juste une remarque ! Je trouve que nous avons vraiment des cadors sur la liste ! Qui aurait=20 eu l'id=C3=A9e de mettre ces petites notes de fioritures sur deux voix ! = Mais=20 o=C3=B9 allez vous chercher tout =C3=A7a ? Comment vous faites pour vous = torturer=20 l'esprit et nous sortir des solutions finalement assez simples,=20 conformes =C3=A0 la grammaire de Lilypond mais surtout esth=C3=A9tiquemen= t parfaites ! Vous voyez pourquoi je me consid=C3=A8re encore et toujours comme un d=C3= =A9butant=20 ? Mon esprit n'est plus assez "souple" ! Bravo =C3=A0 Eluze et aux autres (Xavier, Jean-Charles, Lo=C3=AFc et beau= coup=20 d'autres qui vont se trouver vex=C3=A9s (et je leur demande de m'excuser.= ..).=20 Continuez =C3=A0 nous aider =C3=A0 faire de belles partitions. En attenda= nt, on=20 continue d'apprendre. --=20 JJG From MAILER-DAEMON Sat Jan 21 19:40:18 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1RolTm-00088l-Bd for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 19:40:18 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:50253) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RolTk-00088M-Q0 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 19:40:17 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RolTj-0008Tz-O2 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 19:40:16 -0500 Received: from sam.nabble.com ([216.139.236.26]:33606) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RolTj-0008Tr-HB for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 19:40:15 -0500 Received: from jim.nabble.com ([192.168.236.80]) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RolTi-0006Me-Ia for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 16:40:14 -0800 Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 16:40:14 -0800 (PST) From: Eluze To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Message-ID: <1327192814558-7212188.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <4F1B4D2C.4090806@gmail.com> References: <1327177891645-7211786.post@n2.nabble.com> <1327186722923-7212069.post@n2.nabble.com> <4F1B4D2C.4090806@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Donner une valeur aux notes \grace MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 216.139.236.26 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 00:40:17 -0000 merci, merci! mais je me suis gour=C3=A9 - il y a beaucoup plus facile: puisque les /(after)grace/ n'ont pas de dur=C3=A9e il suffit d'ajouter ce q= ui manque: \afterGrace fis4. {e16[( d32 e)]} *s8* e4. d8 | et plus besoin de surajouter une 2=C3=A8me voix! cette fois ... bonne nuit! Eluze -- View this message in context: http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabbl= e.com/Donner-une-valeur-aux-notes-grace-tp7211786p7212188.html Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From MAILER-DAEMON Sun Jan 22 06:25:20 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1RovY0-0007IJ-HW for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2012 06:25:20 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:40518) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RovXx-0007FV-JH for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2012 06:25:18 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RovXw-0005cX-5v for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2012 06:25:17 -0500 Received: from sam.nabble.com ([216.139.236.26]:38886) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RovXw-0005cT-1U for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2012 06:25:16 -0500 Received: from jim.nabble.com ([192.168.236.80]) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RovXs-0003aJ-V8 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2012 03:25:12 -0800 Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 03:25:12 -0800 (PST) From: bameylan To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Message-ID: <1327231512957-7213163.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <1327192814558-7212188.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1327177891645-7211786.post@n2.nabble.com> <1327186722923-7212069.post@n2.nabble.com> <4F1B4D2C.4090806@gmail.com> <1327192814558-7212188.post@n2.nabble.com> Subject: Re: Donner une valeur aux notes \grace MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 216.139.236.26 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 11:25:18 -0000 Eluze wrote >=20 > puisque les /(after)grace/ n'ont pas de dur=C3=A9e il suffit d'ajouter ce= qui > manque: > \afterGrace fis4. {e16[( d32 e)]} *s8* e4. d8 | > cette fois ... bonne nuit! >=20 Remarquable ce que les insomniaques peuvent =C3=AAtre =C3=A0 la pointe de l= a technique!!=20 Merci! Bernard -- View this message in context: http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabbl= e.com/Donner-une-valeur-aux-notes-grace-tp7211786p7213163.html Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From MAILER-DAEMON Sun Jan 22 08:36:15 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1Roxah-0008GW-Qt for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2012 08:36:15 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:57797) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Roxaf-0008GQ-NA for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2012 08:36:14 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Roxae-0004TH-Gx for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2012 08:36:13 -0500 Received: from sam.nabble.com ([216.139.236.26]:44917) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Roxae-0004TA-8G for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2012 08:36:12 -0500 Received: from jim.nabble.com ([192.168.236.80]) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Roxac-0004Ub-DO for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2012 05:36:10 -0800 Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 05:36:10 -0800 (PST) From: bameylan To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Message-ID: <1327239370408-7213389.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <1327231512957-7213163.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1327177891645-7211786.post@n2.nabble.com> <1327186722923-7212069.post@n2.nabble.com> <4F1B4D2C.4090806@gmail.com> <1327192814558-7212188.post@n2.nabble.com> <1327231512957-7213163.post@n2.nabble.com> Subject: Re: Donner une valeur aux notes \grace MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 216.139.236.26 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 13:36:14 -0000 Damned! Dans l'enthousiasme de la solution d'Eluze, j'avais oubli=C3=A9 qu'= il y avait... des paroles au dessous de mes notes... du coup, plus question d'utiliser des notes d'agr=C3=A9ment, li me faut tout refaire avec des note= s "normales", c-=C3=A0-d avec une dur=C3=A9e, pour que les syllabes s' "accro= chent" dessous... Bernard -- View this message in context: http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabbl= e.com/Donner-une-valeur-aux-notes-grace-tp7211786p7213389.html Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From MAILER-DAEMON Sun Jan 22 09:42:12 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1RoycW-0007hI-Qi for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2012 09:42:12 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:52383) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RoycT-0007gV-T8 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2012 09:42:10 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RoycS-0003MY-Jo for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2012 09:42:09 -0500 Received: from sam.nabble.com ([216.139.236.26]:47847) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RoycS-0003MQ-GA for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2012 09:42:08 -0500 Received: from jim.nabble.com ([192.168.236.80]) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RoycR-0000jp-3J for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2012 06:42:07 -0800 Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 06:42:07 -0800 (PST) From: legoss To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Message-ID: <1327243327095-7213505.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <4F1B30B6.40902@free.fr> References: <200902190927.15152.dan@cartron.org> <1235041323942-2352380.post@n2.nabble.com> <200902191238.55431.dan@cartron.org> <7F41C939-2F57-4C33-90F1-7913C77FCDFF@free.fr> <8BF91B50-43D5-464A-88BC-CB326E03EDC0@free.fr> <499DC5B6.3000804@orange.fr> <1318263334217-6877505.post@n2.nabble.com> <1327151321981-7210943.post@n2.nabble.com> <4F1B30B6.40902@free.fr> Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re:_LilypondTool_pour_les_fain=C3=A9ants_=3F?= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 216.139.236.26 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 14:42:11 -0000 En fait on peut modifier et ajouter des boutons =C3=A0 volont=C3=A9s. Chacu= n selon ses besoins. Ph. Hezaine wrote >=20 > Mais je me demande s'il est possible d'afficher sur les touches m=C3=AAme= s de=20 > l'interface graphique le nom d'un symbole, par exemple sna ou cymch...=20 > pour qu'il soit visible par un utilisateur.=20 C'est possible en modifiant le code source du fichier html. Tu dois pouvoir m=C3=AAme rajouter une image sur le bouton. Mais je n'ai pas creus=C3=A9 la= question. Par contre, si tu planches dessus, je serais int=C3=A9ress=C3=A9 par un fic= hier sp=C3=A9cial "batterie-percus". Ph. Hezaine wrote >=20 > Je trouve aussi que la saisie des chevrons < et > pour les accords=20 > manque cruellement dans ton exemple. Mais c'est un jeu d'enfant que de=20 > les rajouter.=20 Je ne travaille qu'exceptionnellement le polyphonique... En prenant pour base le fichier html, il est tout a fait possible de cr=C3= =A9er autant de fichiers que de besoins. Et d'y r=C3=A9pondre de fa=C3=A7on tr=C3= =A8s sp=C3=A9cifique. Faut au minimum les bases du html pour comprendre ce qu'il faut faire et comment le faire pour un r=C3=A9sultat souhait=C3=A9. Pour ma part, =C3=A7a= commence =C3=A0 rentrer... lentement. Il est aussi possible de tout rassembler dans un seul fichier avec le principe "d=C3=A9plier - plier" (expand - collapse)... pour peu qu'il soit = bien structur=C3=A9 afin de permettre =C3=A0 chacun de s'y retrouver pour l'enri= chir =C3=A0 nouveau. On peut par exemple ajouter des boutons pour les nuances, les ornements, des fonctions... Le javascript (tout un monde...) propose aussi des possibilit=C3=A9s tr=C3= =A8s nombreuses et vari=C3=A9es. Je n'en est pas les bases. Loin de l=C3=A0. Mai= s en potassant, on doit pouvoir cr=C3=A9er de bons outils utiles et pratiques po= ur tire le meilleur parti de Lilypond. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabbl= e.com/LilypondTool-pour-les-faineants-tp2346820p7213505.html Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From MAILER-DAEMON Sun Jan 22 12:55:56 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1Rp1e0-0004rA-92 for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2012 12:55:56 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:42168) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rp1dw-0004ph-GR for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2012 12:55:54 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rp1dt-0007c0-Qg for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2012 12:55:52 -0500 Received: from smtp5-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.5]:34518) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rp1ds-0007bL-4s for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2012 12:55:49 -0500 Received: from [88.184.126.48] (unknown [88.184.126.48]) by smtp5-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65748D48660 for ; Sun, 22 Jan 2012 18:55:41 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4F1C4DA9.5090508@free.fr> Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 18:55:53 +0100 From: =?UTF-8?B?UGhpbCBIw6l6YWluZQ==?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:9.0) Gecko/20120117 Thunderbird/9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Subject: Re: LilypondTool pour les =?UTF-8?B?ZmFpbsOpYW50cyA/?= References: <200902190927.15152.dan@cartron.org> <1235041323942-2352380.post@n2.nabble.com> <200902191238.55431.dan@cartron.org> <7F41C939-2F57-4C33-90F1-7913C77FCDFF@free.fr> <8BF91B50-43D5-464A-88BC-CB326E03EDC0@free.fr> <499DC5B6.3000804@orange.fr> <1318263334217-6877505.post@n2.nabble.com> <1327151321981-7210943.post@n2.nabble.com> <4F1B30B6.40902@free.fr> <1327243327095-7213505.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <1327243327095-7213505.post@n2.nabble.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------020208000800050908040301" X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 212.27.42.5 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 17:55:54 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020208000800050908040301 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Le 22/01/2012 15:42, legoss a =C3=A9crit : > En fait on peut modifier et ajouter des boutons =C3=A0 volont=C3=A9s. C= hacun selon ses > besoins. > > Ph. Hezaine wrote >> >> Mais je me demande s'il est possible d'afficher sur les touches m=C3=AA= mes de >> l'interface graphique le nom d'un symbole, par exemple sna ou cymch... >> pour qu'il soit visible par un utilisateur. > C'est possible en modifiant le code source du fichier html. Tu dois pou= voir > m=C3=AAme rajouter une image sur le bouton. Mais je n'ai pas creus=C3=A9= la question. > Par contre, si tu planches dessus, je serais int=C3=A9ress=C3=A9 par un= fichier > sp=C3=A9cial "batterie-percus". > Ph. Hezaine wrote >> >> Je trouve aussi que la saisie des chevrons< et> pour les accords >> manque cruellement dans ton exemple. Mais c'est un jeu d'enfant que de >> les rajouter. > Je ne travaille qu'exceptionnellement le polyphonique... > En prenant pour base le fichier html, il est tout a fait possible de cr= =C3=A9er > autant de fichiers que de besoins. Et d'y r=C3=A9pondre de fa=C3=A7on t= r=C3=A8s sp=C3=A9cifique. > Faut au minimum les bases du html pour comprendre ce qu'il faut faire e= t > comment le faire pour un r=C3=A9sultat souhait=C3=A9. Pour ma part, =C3= =A7a commence =C3=A0 > rentrer... lentement. > Il est aussi possible de tout rassembler dans un seul fichier avec le > principe "d=C3=A9plier - plier" (expand - collapse)... pour peu qu'il s= oit bien > structur=C3=A9 afin de permettre =C3=A0 chacun de s'y retrouver pour l'= enrichir =C3=A0 > nouveau. On peut par exemple ajouter des boutons pour les nuances, les > ornements, des fonctions... > Le javascript (tout un monde...) propose aussi des possibilit=C3=A9s tr= =C3=A8s > nombreuses et vari=C3=A9es. Je n'en est pas les bases. Loin de l=C3=A0.= Mais en > potassant, on doit pouvoir cr=C3=A9er de bons outils utiles et pratique= s pour > tire le meilleur parti de Lilypond. Je joins les r=C3=A9sultats de ma mumuse. Le but =C3=A9tant de tester=20 l'utilisation d'un clavier de saisie format=C3=A9 sp=C3=A9cialement pour = le Puzzle=20 du Batteur. Je n'ai pas r=C3=A9ussi =C3=A0 =C3=A9crire en blanc sur les touches noire= s, j'ai donc=20 vir=C3=A9 la couleur. Je n'ai pas encore la conviction que c'est la bonne fa=C3=A7on de saisir=20 cette jungle des 46 ou 47 symboles de percussions (je ne sais plus). Mais enfin je me suis bien amus=C3=A9 pour l'instant. Peut-=C3=AAtre me faudrait-il plut=C3=B4t regrouper par famille d'instrum= ents,=20 tous les toms ensemble dans un groupe, les cymbales ailleurs... L=C3=A0 j'ai simplement suivi le mapping clavier du midi, pour voir. Pas forc=C3=A9ment convaincant pour les percussions, =C3=A0 mon avis. 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for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2012 15:14:39 -0500 Received: from jim.nabble.com ([192.168.236.80]) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rp3oE-0004o1-5Q for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2012 12:14:38 -0800 Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 12:14:38 -0800 (PST) From: legoss To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Message-ID: <1327263278159-7214097.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <201201222024284064897@espace-midi.com> References: <200902191238.55431.dan@cartron.org> <7F41C939-2F57-4C33-90F1-7913C77FCDFF@free.fr> <8BF91B50-43D5-464A-88BC-CB326E03EDC0@free.fr> <499DC5B6.3000804@orange.fr> <1318263334217-6877505.post@n2.nabble.com> <1327151321981-7210943.post@n2.nabble.com> <4F1B30B6.40902@free.fr> <1327243327095-7213505.post@n2.nabble.com> <201201222024284064897@espace-midi.com> Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re:_Re:_LilypondTool_pour_les_fain=C3=A9ants_=3F?= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 216.139.236.26 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 20:14:41 -0000 Seventies wrote >=20 > la saisie se fait en absolu, ce qui est contraire =C3=A0 certaines habitu= des du > monde de LilyPond. Existe-t-il une moulinette permettant de passer de > l'une =C3=A0 l'autre version ? Comme indiqu=C3=A9 sur le pdf joint, Frescobaldi et probablement jEdit, te permettent en un clic de pass=C3=A9 du mode absolu au mode relative, et vice-versa. C'est en cela que le mode absolu n'est pas g=C3=AAnant. =C3=87a= =C3=A9vite les erreurs d'octave. Je con=C3=A7ois que les puristes de la saisie-clavier soit quelque peu destabilis=C3=A9s par le proc=C3=A9der. Mais vu que l'outil de conversion e= st parfaitement fonctionnel, pourquoi ne pas s'en servir? -- View this message in context: http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabbl= e.com/LilypondTool-pour-les-faineants-tp2346820p7214097.html Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From MAILER-DAEMON Sun Jan 22 15:27:35 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1Rp40l-0003uP-O7 for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2012 15:27:35 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:44086) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rp40k-0003uJ-3l for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2012 15:27:34 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rp40i-0007vY-UX for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2012 15:27:34 -0500 Received: from sam.nabble.com ([216.139.236.26]:42220) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rp40i-0007vU-Mb for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2012 15:27:32 -0500 Received: from jim.nabble.com ([192.168.236.80]) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rp40g-0005mw-Kq for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2012 12:27:30 -0800 Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 12:27:30 -0800 (PST) From: bameylan To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Message-ID: <1327264050637-7214122.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <1327239370408-7213389.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1327177891645-7211786.post@n2.nabble.com> <1327186722923-7212069.post@n2.nabble.com> <4F1B4D2C.4090806@gmail.com> <1327192814558-7212188.post@n2.nabble.com> <1327231512957-7213163.post@n2.nabble.com> <1327239370408-7213389.post@n2.nabble.com> Subject: Re: Donner une valeur aux notes \grace MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 216.139.236.26 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 20:27:35 -0000 Juste pour "finir" ce fil: en lieu et place de notes d'agr=C3=A9ment, j'ai = utilis=C3=A9 les commandes: \set fontSize =3D #-3 \override Stem #'length-fraction =3D #0.4 ... =20 =20 \unset fontSize \override Stem #'length-fraction =3D #(magstep 0)=20 =C3=87a, au moins, =C3=A7a respecte les valeurs... ;-) Bernard -- View this message in context: http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabbl= e.com/Donner-une-valeur-aux-notes-grace-tp7211786p7214122.html Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From MAILER-DAEMON Sun Jan 22 15:32:09 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1Rp45B-0004ks-AF for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2012 15:32:09 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:42228) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rp459-0004kg-8T for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2012 15:32:08 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rp458-0008RA-AI for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2012 15:32:07 -0500 Received: from sam.nabble.com ([216.139.236.26]:42422) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rp458-0008R4-6R for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2012 15:32:06 -0500 Received: from jim.nabble.com ([192.168.236.80]) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rp457-00065W-C7 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2012 12:32:05 -0800 Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 12:32:05 -0800 (PST) From: legoss To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Message-ID: <1327264325367-7214130.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <4F1C4DA9.5090508@free.fr> References: <200902191238.55431.dan@cartron.org> <7F41C939-2F57-4C33-90F1-7913C77FCDFF@free.fr> <8BF91B50-43D5-464A-88BC-CB326E03EDC0@free.fr> <499DC5B6.3000804@orange.fr> <1318263334217-6877505.post@n2.nabble.com> <1327151321981-7210943.post@n2.nabble.com> <4F1B30B6.40902@free.fr> <1327243327095-7213505.post@n2.nabble.com> <4F1C4DA9.5090508@free.fr> Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re:_LilypondTool_pour_les_fain=C3=A9ants_=3F?= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 216.139.236.26 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 20:32:08 -0000 Ph. Hezaine wrote >=20 > Je joins les r=C3=A9sultats de ma mumuse. Le but =C3=A9tant de tester=20 > l'utilisation d'un clavier de saisie format=C3=A9 sp=C3=A9cialement pour = le Puzzle=20 > du Batteur. Je n'ai pas du tout =C3=A9tudi=C3=A9 la proc=C3=A9dure de la saisie d'une p= artition "batteuse" pour l'instant. En tout cas, tu ne t'en es pas mal sorti! Ton code n=C3=A9cessiterait juste un petit lifting. Prens le temps de r=C3=A9fl=C3=A9chir =C3=A0 un agencement qui soit le plus= pratique selon toi, et =C3=A0 l'ajout de certains boutons etc... Le reste n'est que de la = mise en forme. - Je suis en train de penser que peut-=C3=AAtre le principe propos=C3=A9 po= urrait int=C3=A9resser notre accord=C3=A9oniste pour rendre plus simple la saisie = de ses partitions, et de ses diagrammes. - On pourrait m=C3=AAme imaginer une page html recensant un maximum de doig= t=C3=A9s guitare avec la g=C3=A9n=C3=A9ration de leur code Lilypond respectifs... Le= s gratteux de la listes auraient du taff. - J'ai vu aussi qu'on pouvait "dessiner" avec Lilypond. J'ai vu des lunettes, des baguettes... Une page =C3=A0 pourrait r=C3=A9pertorier ce typ= e d'=C3=A9l=C3=A9ments avec leurs codes au fur et =C3=A0 mesure de leur cr=C3= =A9ation. Je pense aussi aux m=C3=A9thodes d'apprentissage d'instrument comme la fl= =C3=BBte, la clarinette, le hautbois, le sax etc. une page pourrait r=C3=A9pertorier les doigt=C3=A9s de ces instruments-l=C3=A0. Ce qui aiderait et faciliterait l'= =C3=A9dition de ces m=C3=A9thodes. On peut multiplier les exemple =C3=A0 l'infini... histoire de ne pas r=C3= =A9inventer syst=C3=A9matiquement l'eau froide. Allez, je vais me coucher. Ma cafeti=C3=A8re commence =C3=A0 chauffer et je= me l=C3=A8ve de bonne heure.=20 -- View this message in context: http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabbl= e.com/LilypondTool-pour-les-faineants-tp2346820p7214130.html Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From MAILER-DAEMON Sun Jan 22 18:14:47 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1Rp6cZ-0005Y0-SC for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2012 18:14:47 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:59173) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rp6cY-0005Xu-4g for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2012 18:14:47 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rp6cX-00081g-5x for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2012 18:14:46 -0500 Received: from sam.nabble.com ([216.139.236.26]:51478) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rp6cW-00081W-VP for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2012 18:14:45 -0500 Received: from jim.nabble.com ([192.168.236.80]) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rp6cV-0002JP-Mx for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2012 15:14:43 -0800 Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 15:14:43 -0800 (PST) From: Eluze To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Message-ID: <1327274083704-7214430.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <1327264050637-7214122.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1327177891645-7211786.post@n2.nabble.com> <1327186722923-7212069.post@n2.nabble.com> <4F1B4D2C.4090806@gmail.com> <1327192814558-7212188.post@n2.nabble.com> <1327231512957-7213163.post@n2.nabble.com> <1327239370408-7213389.post@n2.nabble.com> <1327264050637-7214122.post@n2.nabble.com> Subject: Re: Donner une valeur aux notes \grace MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 216.139.236.26 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 23:14:47 -0000 bameylan wrote >=20 > Juste pour "finir" ce fil: en lieu et place de notes d'agr=C3=A9ment, j'a= i > utilis=C3=A9 les commandes: >=20 > \set fontSize =3D #-3 > \override Stem #'length-fraction =3D #0.4 >=20 > ... =20 > =20 > \unset fontSize > \override Stem #'length-fraction =3D #(magstep 0)=20 >=20 > =C3=87a, au moins, =C3=A7a respecte les valeurs... ;-) >=20 > Bernard >=20 j'ai recherch=C3=A9 un peu dans les fichiers lilypond et j'ai trouv=C3=A9 p= our les graceSettings: / \override Accidental #'font-size =3D #-4 \override AccidentalCautionary #'font-size =3D #-4 \override Beam #'beam-thickness =3D #0.384 \override Beam #'length-fraction =3D #0.8 \override Dots #'font-size =3D #-3 \override Fingering #'font-size =3D #-8 \override Flag #'font-size =3D #-3 \override NoteHead #'font-size =3D #-3 \override Script #'font-size =3D #-3 \override Stem #'length-fraction =3D #0.8 \override Stem #'no-stem-extend =3D ##t \override StringNumber #'font-size =3D #-8 \override TabNoteHead #'font-size =3D #-4/ apr=C3=A8s coup on peut les remettre =C3=A0 leur valeur initiale ( /\revert= / ) ce n'est peut-=C3=AAtre pas n=C3=A9cessaire pour ton cas, mais on ne sait j= amais=E2=80=A6 Eluze -- View this message in context: http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabbl= e.com/Donner-une-valeur-aux-notes-grace-tp7211786p7214430.html Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From MAILER-DAEMON Tue Jan 24 05:19:16 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1RpdT9-0003bb-Vi for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2012 05:19:15 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:42908) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RpdT3-0003bS-IJ for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2012 05:19:15 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RpdSy-0003JW-0x for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2012 05:19:09 -0500 Received: from sam.nabble.com ([216.139.236.26]:34652) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RpdSx-0003JN-Tc for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2012 05:19:03 -0500 Received: from jim.nabble.com ([192.168.236.80]) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RpdSw-0000lm-36 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2012 02:19:02 -0800 Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 02:19:02 -0800 (PST) From: bameylan To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Message-ID: <1327400342059-7219786.post@n2.nabble.com> Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Arp=C3=A8ge_se_terminant_en_accord?= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 216.139.236.26 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 10:19:15 -0000 Bonjour =C3=A0 tous, =C3=A0 la fin d'une variation (choral =C2=ABSei gegr=C3=BC=C3=9Fet=C2=BB) l= e bon papa Bach termine les 2 mains, chacune s'occupant de 2 voix, par un arp=C3=A8ge qui forme l'a= ccord final. Quelque chose comme =C3=A7a: http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabble.com/file/n7219786/arpege_acc= ord.png=20 L=C3=A0, je s=C3=A8che quand =C3=A0 la mani=C3=A8re de faire... introduire = d'autres voix dans les 4 d=C3=A9j=C3=A0 existantes? Bernard -- View this message in context: http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabbl= e.com/Arpege-se-terminant-en-accord-tp7219786p7219786.html Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From MAILER-DAEMON Tue Jan 24 05:40:58 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1RpdoA-0007nB-5e for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2012 05:40:58 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:32840) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rpdo3-0007n4-CO for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2012 05:40:57 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rpdnu-0005af-DN for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2012 05:40:51 -0500 Received: from mail-pz0-f41.google.com ([209.85.210.41]:46180) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rpdnu-0005aZ-8G for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2012 05:40:42 -0500 Received: by dang27 with SMTP id g27so2551071dan.0 for ; Tue, 24 Jan 2012 02:40:40 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=XMxdm7X8MkfCeTOMBsWXj1yUXknubXmQpo1je48nsdI=; b=AHV+GDkbYyEgupNAoGAEQqvkrdYvkZztIbrgcsgXXD+E1VKJoSEUjZhr+kQEj2MGu0 D+iJDGJ2k72KslcrVcc3EG53a2AbKyzBBAspzvHXdPK7pE67Y1PZ+CABzHNhUsWSy7oK WVpT/l6ARqyLMcBUfevrVo3oi0Bsf9OMqplYM= Received: by 10.68.211.166 with SMTP id nd6mr29482210pbc.125.1327401640351; Tue, 24 Jan 2012 02:40:40 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.241.8 with HTTP; Tue, 24 Jan 2012 02:40:19 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1327400342059-7219786.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1327400342059-7219786.post@n2.nabble.com> From: Xavier Scheuer Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 11:40:19 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re=3A_Arp=C3=A8ge_se_terminant_en_accord?= To: bameylan Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 209.85.210.41 Cc: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 10:40:57 -0000 2012/1/24 bameylan : > Bonjour =C3=A0 tous, > > =C3=A0 la fin d'une variation (choral =C2=ABSei gegr=C3=BC=C3=9Fet=C2=BB)= le bon papa Bach termine > les 2 mains, chacune s'occupant de 2 voix, par un arp=C3=A8ge qui forme l= 'accord > final. Quelque chose comme =C3=A7a: > > http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabble.com/file/n7219786/arpege_a= ccord.png > > L=C3=A0, je s=C3=A8che quand =C3=A0 la mani=C3=A8re de faire... introduir= e d'autres voix dans > les 4 d=C3=A9j=C3=A0 existantes? Salut, Il s'agit d'un cas typique de l'utilisation de \set tieWaitForNote =3D ##t non? NR 1.2.1 =C3=89criture du rythme > Liaisons de prolongation > Liaison de tenue et arp=C3=A8ge http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/notation/writing-rhythms#ties Ou bien on peut mettre la liaison de tenue dans chaque vois diff=C3=A9rente= . Mais effectivement, il faudrait je pense introduire une nouvelle voix pour les sol8.~ sol4 hampe vers le bas, une autre pour les si8~ si4 et encore une pour avoir l'agencement particulier du dernier accord avec les trois notes hampes vers le haut d=C3=A9cal=C3=A9es de valeurs diff= =C3=A9rentes. Cordialement, Xavier --=20 Xavier Scheuer From MAILER-DAEMON Tue Jan 24 05:43:20 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1RpdqS-0000ah-GM for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2012 05:43:20 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:33039) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RpdqN-0000aX-Ex for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2012 05:43:19 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RpdqH-0005iq-Se for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2012 05:43:15 -0500 Received: from ld64.inmotionhosting.com ([205.134.255.128]:32868) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RpdqH-0005ig-M2 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2012 05:43:09 -0500 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51643 helo=webmail.apollinemike.com) by ld64.inmotionhosting.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RpdqF-0004cG-Ol for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2012 02:43:07 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 11:43:07 +0100 From: mike@apollinemike.com To: Subject: Re: =?UTF-8?Q?Arp=C3=A8ge=20se=20terminant=20en=20accord?= In-Reply-To: <1327400342059-7219786.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1327400342059-7219786.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <626e115c458886be1c7e9d6b8cbbe6a7@apollinemike.com> X-Sender: mike@apollinemike.com User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/0.5.2 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - ld64.inmotionhosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - apollinemike.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Windows 98 (1) X-Received-From: 205.134.255.128 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 10:43:19 -0000 On Tue, 24 Jan 2012 02:19:02 -0800 (PST), bameylan wrote: > Bonjour à tous, > > à la fin d'une variation (choral «Sei gegrüßet») le bon papa Bach > termine > les 2 mains, chacune s'occupant de 2 voix, par un arpège qui forme > l'accord > final. Quelque chose comme ça: > > > http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabble.com/file/n7219786/arpege_accord.png > > > Là, je sèche quand à la manière de faire... introduire d'autres voix > dans > les 4 déjà existantes? > > Bernard Je pense que c'est la bonne solution. Les petits décalages entre les notes dans l'accord indiquent des voix séparées. Cordialement, Mike From MAILER-DAEMON Tue Jan 24 08:54:39 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1Rpgpb-0006FK-47 for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2012 08:54:39 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:41214) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RpgpU-0006FE-Cx for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2012 08:54:38 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RpgpQ-0000Of-2n for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2012 08:54:32 -0500 Received: from sam.nabble.com ([216.139.236.26]:37374) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RpgpP-0000OU-VO for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2012 08:54:28 -0500 Received: from jim.nabble.com ([192.168.236.80]) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RpgpM-0007E6-V2 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2012 05:54:24 -0800 Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 05:54:24 -0800 (PST) From: flup To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Message-ID: <1327413264946-7220416.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <1277915762434-5237947.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1261132492692-4185898.post@n2.nabble.com> <1261134905849-4186014.post@n2.nabble.com> <1261160954406-4188115.post@n2.nabble.com> <1277907508734-5237779.post@n2.nabble.com> <1277915762434-5237947.post@n2.nabble.com> Subject: Re: Polices compatibles avec Lilypond MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 216.139.236.26 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 13:54:38 -0000 Bonjour, Retour sur ce vieux topic; je ne sais pas si le souci vient de mon installation, mais je n'arrive plus =C3=A0 utiliser certaines polices dans Lilypond. Voici ce que je re=C3=A7ois comme message quand je veux int=C3=A9= grer la police Controla : =C3=A9chec de =C2=AB (fondu -force /Library/Fonts/Contr) =C2=BB (256) En mode verbose, =C3=A7a donne : Appel de =C2=AB fondu -force /Library/Fonts/Contr =C2=BB... Can't find an appropriate resource fork in /Library/Fonts/Contr =C3=A9chec de =C2=AB (fondu -force /Library/Fonts/Contr) =C2=BB (256) =C3=87a arrive avec de nombreuses polices (souvent celles qui ne sont pas a= u format .dfont) Dans d'autres cas, pas de message d'erreur, mais le r=C3=A9sultat reste le = m=C3=AAme (le texte appara=C3=AEt dans une police ressemblant =C3=A0 du courrier). J'ai =C3=A9videmment effac=C3=A9 le cache de polices de Lilypond, mais rien= n'y fait. Quelqu'un a-t-il une id=C3=A9e ? Philippe -- View this message in context: http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabbl= e.com/Polices-compatibles-avec-Lilypond-tp4185898p7220416.html Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From MAILER-DAEMON Tue Jan 24 16:34:54 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1Rpo10-00073s-L3 for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2012 16:34:54 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:42806) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rpo0x-00072c-RW for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2012 16:34:52 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rpo0r-0006NG-PH for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2012 16:34:51 -0500 Received: from sam.nabble.com ([216.139.236.26]:57332) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rpo0r-0006Mk-78 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2012 16:34:45 -0500 Received: from jim.nabble.com ([192.168.236.80]) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rpo0o-0002vx-VA for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2012 13:34:42 -0800 Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 13:34:42 -0800 (PST) From: bameylan To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Message-ID: <1327440882958-7221896.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: References: <1327400342059-7219786.post@n2.nabble.com> Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re:_Arp=C3=A8ge_se_terminant_en_accord?= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 216.139.236.26 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 21:34:52 -0000 Xavier Scheuer wrote > > Il s'agit d'un cas typique de l'utilisation de > \set tieWaitForNote = ##t > non? > Exactement! Merci. Bernard -- View this message in context: http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabble.com/Arpege-se-terminant-en-accord-tp7219786p7221896.html Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From MAILER-DAEMON Wed Jan 25 04:21:04 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1Rpz2O-0007or-Dm for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2012 04:21:04 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:52506) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rpz2H-0007kd-56 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2012 04:21:01 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rpz2B-00084K-L8 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2012 04:20:57 -0500 Received: from sam.nabble.com ([216.139.236.26]:48128) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rpz2B-00084A-GR for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2012 04:20:51 -0500 Received: from jim.nabble.com ([192.168.236.80]) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rpz29-0005tI-Qd for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2012 01:20:49 -0800 Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 01:20:49 -0800 (PST) From: legoss To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Message-ID: <1327483249789-7223280.post@n2.nabble.com> Subject: Enlever le nom de l'instrument MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 216.139.236.26 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 09:21:01 -0000 Bonjour =C3=A0 tous, J'ai un score de pr=C3=A8s de 20 parties. Chaque partie est import=C3=A9e d= ans le score par un \include "mapartie1.ly" Le fichier mapartie1.ly est du style: Le fichier principal se d=C3=A9compose ainsi: Je cherche =C3=A0 enlever le nom de l'instrument pour les 2 derniers \book. Merci pour aide, Laurent -- View this message in context: http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabbl= e.com/Enlever-le-nom-de-l-instrument-tp7223280p7223280.html Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From MAILER-DAEMON Wed Jan 25 05:01:51 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1Rpzfr-00065n-1r for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2012 05:01:51 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:45641) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rpzfn-0005yc-LI for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2012 05:01:49 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rpzfg-0005TL-C3 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2012 05:01:47 -0500 Received: from mail-vx0-f169.google.com ([209.85.220.169]:46472) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rpzfg-0005TF-9T for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2012 05:01:40 -0500 Received: by vcbfl11 with SMTP id fl11so4019014vcb.0 for ; Wed, 25 Jan 2012 02:01:39 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=KnphrSUyBu0SZUbky2QOh8U4t8gQrKkdF/8pZ7Gw8JA=; b=r+SCVgui4Vn2ef7Wh38UzAKjl5MuFvEYUQt4wBX/SkRPBOOHkjfC2xqxbEDYSw6g+s K6pe2nfFiWPc02KnXKLfUpypZ3rmPK1m4mLPRbY2++Y9mPb+SKswL8TVgO0TDAOa/wQX bSLL03JoqahT3HhWsimdWDrWWpQsrQMugP8Lk= Received: by 10.52.240.242 with SMTP id wd18mr8385901vdc.95.1327485699273; Wed, 25 Jan 2012 02:01:39 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: chrpochon@gmail.com Received: by 10.220.179.138 with HTTP; Wed, 25 Jan 2012 02:01:18 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1327483249789-7223280.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1327483249789-7223280.post@n2.nabble.com> From: Christophe Pochon Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 11:01:18 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: SIPEOSzT9L4lulIGJD5Yjjn_F8Y Message-ID: Subject: Re: Enlever le nom de l'instrument To: legoss Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf307ac3f98cb28404b75759c0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 209.85.220.169 Cc: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 10:01:49 -0000 --20cf307ac3f98cb28404b75759c0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Salut, du style quoi ? et, se d=E9compose comment ? On dirait qu'il manque quelque chose dans ton message.... Christophe Pochon http://www.christophe-pochon.com Le 25 janvier 2012 10:20, legoss a =E9crit = : > Bonjour =E0 tous, > > J'ai un score de pr=E8s de 20 parties. Chaque partie est import=E9e dans = le > score par un \include "mapartie1.ly" > Le fichier mapartie1.ly est du style: > > Le fichier principal se d=E9compose ainsi: > > Je cherche =E0 enlever le nom de l'instrument pour les 2 derniers \book. > Merci pour aide, > Laurent > > -- > View this message in context: > http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabble.com/Enlever-le-nom-de-l-in= strument-tp7223280p7223280.html > Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > liste de diffusion lilypond-user-fr > lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user-fr > --20cf307ac3f98cb28404b75759c0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Salut,

du style quoi ? et, se d=E9compose comment ?
On dirait qu&= #39;il manque quelque chose dans ton message....

Chris= tophe Pochon
http://www.chr= istophe-pochon.com



Le 25 janvier 2012 10:20, legoss <laurent.esc= olier@aliceadsl.fr> a =E9crit :
Bonjour =E0 tous,

J'ai un score de pr=E8s de 20 parties. Chaque partie est import=E9e dan= s le
score par un \include "mapartie1.ly"
Le fichier mapartie1.ly est du style:

Le fichier principal se d=E9compose ainsi:

Je cherche =E0 enlever le nom de l'instrument pour les 2 derniers \book= .
Merci pour aide,
Laurent

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--20cf307ac3f98cb28404b75759c0-- From MAILER-DAEMON Wed Jan 25 05:09:57 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1Rpznh-0007H7-HM for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2012 05:09:57 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:36136) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rpzna-0007FJ-B3 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2012 05:09:55 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RpznZ-0006W6-1Z for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2012 05:09:50 -0500 Received: from sam.nabble.com ([216.139.236.26]:51941) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RpznY-0006Vo-MX for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2012 05:09:48 -0500 Received: from jim.nabble.com ([192.168.236.80]) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RpznX-0002MP-HM for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2012 02:09:47 -0800 Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 02:09:47 -0800 (PST) From: legoss To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Message-ID: <1327486187529-7223367.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: References: <1327483249789-7223280.post@n2.nabble.com> Subject: Re: Enlever le nom de l'instrument MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 216.139.236.26 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 10:09:55 -0000 C'est l'option "Raw text" qui ne marche pas... Voici donc mon message brut : %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% J'ai un score de pr=C3=A8s de 20 parties. Chaque partie est import=C3=A9e d= ans le score par un \include "mapartie1.ly" Le fichier mapartie1.ly est du style: \relative c' { \set Staff.instrumentName =3D #"Violon 1" \set Staff.shortInstrumentName =3D #"V1" c4 d e f g1=20 } Le fichier principal se d=C3=A9compose ainsi: \book { \score { << \new StaffGroup=20 << \new Staff \include "mapartie1.ly" \new Staff \include "mapartie2.ly" >> >> } } \book { \score { \new Staff \include "mapartie1.ly" } } \book { \score { \new Staff \include "mapartie2.ly" } } Je cherche =C3=A0 enlever le nom de l'instrument pour les 2 derniers \book. Merci pour aide, Laurent=20 -- View this message in context: http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabbl= e.com/Enlever-le-nom-de-l-instrument-tp7223280p7223367.html Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From MAILER-DAEMON Wed Jan 25 05:48:23 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1Rq0Ot-0001KH-70 for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2012 05:48:23 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:48664) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rq0Ol-0001GM-Uo for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2012 05:48:20 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rq0Oj-0003E2-1a for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2012 05:48:15 -0500 Received: from mail-pz0-f41.google.com ([209.85.210.41]:58872) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rq0Oi-0003Db-SX for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2012 05:48:13 -0500 Received: by dang27 with SMTP id g27so3489263dan.0 for ; Wed, 25 Jan 2012 02:48:11 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=T6ti3LQ9h6SZ8c/24MU92L7c7x43x1+DCQ35CHEVX/s=; b=lZY/aoTkU8MyQOvJ2FhQ3s/F28nTPJdtfthrE12IeZJy+t6ke2X2izYGJg9ggOW29U g/f7EskgKg689T7qfn1cpJYHvSpeCwKDK7saEiK5+MmAs44YIwP70Ht9pADGW1LJgicC LaLgRqugRySLgH6BEGKGOH2DXhtGLYjqU4ZXc= Received: by 10.68.211.166 with SMTP id nd6mr39171433pbc.125.1327488491380; Wed, 25 Jan 2012 02:48:11 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.241.8 with HTTP; Wed, 25 Jan 2012 02:47:50 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <1327483249789-7223280.post@n2.nabble.com> From: Xavier Scheuer Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 11:47:50 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Enlever le nom de l'instrument To: legoss , Christophe Pochon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 209.85.210.41 Cc: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 10:48:20 -0000 2012/1/25 Christophe Pochon : > Salut, > > du style quoi ? et, se d=C3=A9compose comment ? > On dirait qu'il manque quelque chose dans ton message.... Encore un probl=C3=A8me Nabble -> la liste. Les bouts de codes manquant au message re=C3=A7u par e-mail sont visibles http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabble.com/Enlever-le-nom-de-l-inst= rument-td7223280.html Aux utilisateurs de Nabble, essayez de ne pas utiliser les balises de Nabble pour votre code LilyPond svp. Laurent, Je te conseille (pour tes prochaines partitions) de d=C3=A9finir les noms d'instrument dans ton fichier principal, pas dans tes parties import=C3=A9e= s. C'est ce que je fais. C'est peut-=C3=AAtre un peu plus lourd mais bien plu= s flexible si on souhaite ne pas imprimer le nom de l'instrument ou avoir plusieurs versions d'une partition en plusieurs langues diff=C3=A9rentes par exemple. De plus la syntaxe \with est plus robuste que \set Staff.instrumentName notamment dans le cas o=C3=B9 la pi=C3=A8ce co= mmence par une petite note ( \grace ou \acciaccatura ). 2012/1/25 legoss : > Je cherche =C3=A0 enlever le nom de l'instrument pour les 2 derniers \boo= k. Cela =C3=A9tant dit, un \layout { \context { \Staff \remove "Instrument_name_engraver" } } avant les deux derniers \book devrait le faire, non? Cordialement, Xavier --=20 Xavier Scheuer From MAILER-DAEMON Wed Jan 25 05:57:49 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1Rq0Y1-0002Kb-7q for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2012 05:57:49 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:58767) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rq0Xv-0002Jv-CK for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2012 05:57:47 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rq0Xp-0004Va-RA for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2012 05:57:43 -0500 Received: from sam.nabble.com ([216.139.236.26]:56388) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rq0Xp-0004VU-Kx for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2012 05:57:37 -0500 Received: from jim.nabble.com ([192.168.236.80]) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rq0Xo-0007YH-F8 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2012 02:57:36 -0800 Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 02:57:36 -0800 (PST) From: legoss To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Message-ID: <1327489056460-7223468.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: References: <1327483249789-7223280.post@n2.nabble.com> Subject: Re: Enlever le nom de l'instrument MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 216.139.236.26 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 10:57:47 -0000 C'est au poil ! 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[90.46.227.155]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ev5sm1530437bkb.4.2012.01.25.06.48.36 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 25 Jan 2012 06:48:37 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4F201643.9000801@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 15:48:35 +0100 From: simon User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.24) Gecko/20111108 Thunderbird/3.1.16 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Subject: frescobaldi, graver une simple partie References: <1327483249789-7223280.post@n2.nabble.com> <1327489056460-7223468.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <1327489056460-7223468.post@n2.nabble.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 209.85.214.41 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 14:48:51 -0000 Bonjour à tous, Je travaillais plutôt sur emacs auparavant, et puis soudain je me suis mis à vouloir essayer Frescobaldi, notamment parce que j'imagine que c'est plus simple pour persuader les gens que Lilypond c'est pas si compliqué que cela ! Je pouvais sur emacs faire une gravure temporaire d'un tout petit passage, juste quelques notes, je les noircissais et puis je pouvais voir juste à la volée les notes, histoire de me donner une idée, une sorte de WYSIWYG par intermittence assez efficace. Est-ce possible avec frescobaldi ? Merci From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Jan 26 18:01:53 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1RqYKH-0002pw-7Q for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2012 18:01:53 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:44386) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RqYKE-0002my-Ij for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2012 18:01:51 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RqYKA-0006pU-BW for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2012 18:01:50 -0500 Received: from sam.nabble.com ([216.139.236.26]:50893) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RqYKA-0006pP-6a for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2012 18:01:46 -0500 Received: from jim.nabble.com ([192.168.236.80]) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RqYK9-00015S-BJ for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2012 15:01:45 -0800 Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 15:01:45 -0800 (PST) From: Caocoa To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Message-ID: <1327618905329-7228668.post@n2.nabble.com> Subject: [piano] Barre de croche au milieu d'accords MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 216.139.236.26 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 23:01:51 -0000 Bonjour,=20 Pour m=E2=80=99entra=C3=AEner je recopie une partition grav=C3=A9e en 1910 = accessible ici :=20 http://imslp.org/wiki/Special:ImagefromIndex/00509 http://imslp.org/wiki/Special:ImagefromIndex/00509=20 Sur la premi=C3=A8re page, en bas =C3=A0 droite, il y a un motif que je ne = r=C3=A9ussis pas =C3=A0 reproduire. Je sais que d'autres artisans graveurs ont utilis=C3=A9s= deux barres de croches mais une seule fait plus joli et j'ai vu une partition r=C3=A9cente fait avec un autre logiciel (que je ne connais pas) qui avait = cette barre particuli=C3=A8re. Savez-vous si lilypond autorise ce motif ? -- View this message in context: http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabbl= e.com/piano-Barre-de-croche-au-milieu-d-accords-tp7228668p7228668.html Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Jan 26 18:22:15 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1RqYdz-0006cL-V2 for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2012 18:22:15 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:39372) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RqYdw-0006cF-Vm for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2012 18:22:13 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RqYdv-0000XC-SK for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2012 18:22:12 -0500 Received: from mail-pw0-f41.google.com ([209.85.160.41]:34966) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RqYdv-0000X8-Lo for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2012 18:22:11 -0500 Received: by pbaa12 with SMTP id a12so1214635pba.0 for ; Thu, 26 Jan 2012 15:22:10 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Vft/z18jYosC8nQH0x0oFVnbeTH8GDiwkiPSy1vsI5c=; b=KYA2l0mxr84mP9OMlDJvKZ1NlvM8JNo1vREyA9QlGNFax+U5B7mAms7BkaWXoOnttI Gl03kcRKPucoLdd+AF3GM8a4cCPNBOwj1tbp5VZZ1snP2yqFMB5zWmkWkesNUNpkXeMx YG5SwSpJnNRyo9RPPFAGm3qbGO+n4tdIjS0ZU= Received: by 10.68.232.103 with SMTP id tn7mr9078404pbc.74.1327620130302; Thu, 26 Jan 2012 15:22:10 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.241.8 with HTTP; Thu, 26 Jan 2012 15:21:50 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1327618905329-7228668.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1327618905329-7228668.post@n2.nabble.com> From: Xavier Scheuer Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 00:21:50 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [piano] Barre de croche au milieu d'accords To: Caocoa Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 209.85.160.41 Cc: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org, mike@apollinemike.com X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 23:22:13 -0000 2012/1/27 Caocoa : > Bonjour, > Pour m=E2=80=99entra=C3=AEner je recopie une partition grav=C3=A9e en 191= 0 accessible ici : > http://imslp.org/wiki/Special:ImagefromIndex/00509 > http://imslp.org/wiki/Special:ImagefromIndex/00509 > Sur la premi=C3=A8re page, en bas =C3=A0 droite, il y a un motif que je n= e r=C3=A9ussis pas > =C3=A0 reproduire. Je sais que d'autres artisans graveurs ont utilis=C3= =A9s deux > barres de croches mais une seule fait plus joli et j'ai vu une partition > r=C3=A9cente fait avec un autre logiciel (que je ne connais pas) qui avai= t cette > barre particuli=C3=A8re. > Savez-vous si lilypond autorise ce motif ? Bonsoir, La derni=C3=A8re mesure ? Cela doit =C3=AAtre possible via un "cross-staff= ". NR 2.2.1 Vue d=E2=80=99ensemble des claviers > Hampes et changements de por= t=C3=A9e http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/notation/common-notation-for-ke= yboards#cross_002dstaff-stems Si c'est pour reproduire les croches point=C3=A9es puis double croche qu'on retrouve premi=C3=A8re page apr=C3=A8s la double barre (fin du syst=C3=A8me= 2 et au syst=C3=A8me 3) et qui passent "derri=C3=A8re" les accords de la main dr= oite, il faudrait =C3=A0 mon avis jouer avec les "layer" et "whiteout". Je pense qu'il faudrait =C3=A9galement *d=C3=A9sactiver* (momentan=C3=A9ment) la r= =C3=A9solution de collision pour les barres de ligatures. Mais Mike est bien plus expert que moi dans ce domaine. Cordialement, Xavier --=20 Xavier Scheuer From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 27 05:31:35 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1Rqj5j-0002GR-Kg for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Jan 2012 05:31:35 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:33019) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rqj5g-0002GI-GR for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Jan 2012 05:31:34 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rqj5b-0006MG-RX for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Jan 2012 05:31:32 -0500 Received: from sam.nabble.com ([216.139.236.26]:36441) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rqj5b-0006M2-LD for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Jan 2012 05:31:27 -0500 Received: from jim.nabble.com ([192.168.236.80]) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rqj5a-0008MZ-SN for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Jan 2012 02:31:26 -0800 Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 02:31:26 -0800 (PST) From: Caocoa To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: <1327618905329-7228668.post@n2.nabble.com> Subject: Re: [piano] Barre de croche au milieu d'accords MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_3337_5430169.1327660286870" X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 216.139.236.26 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 10:31:34 -0000 ------=_Part_3337_5430169.1327660286870 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Merci de me r=C3=A9pondre. En fait, j'utilise Lilypond seulement depuis une semaine. J'ai copi=C3=A9 sans trop de soucis tout le d=C3=A9but de la parti= tion (exception du probl=C3=A8me de la fin du syst=C3=A8me deux que j'ai contour= n=C3=A9) jusqu'=C3=A0 cette mesure et mon manque d'exp=C3=A9rience se fait cruelleme= nt sentir. C'est la simultan=C3=A9it=C3=A9 des accords qui me g=C3=AAne, je ne sais pa= s comment utiliser Cross-staff pour cela. Sans me faire toute les croches (c'est r=C3=A9barbatif =C3=A0 copier !) pou= rrais-tu me montrer la structure =C3=A0 utiliser ? Merci encore, bonne journ=C3=A9e :-) Le 27 janvier 2012 07:22, Xavier Scheuer [via LilyPond French Users] < ml-node+s1298960n7228716h22@n2.nabble.com> a =C3=A9crit : > 2012/1/27 Caocoa <[hidden email]>: > > > > Bonjour, > > Pour m=E2=80=99entra=C3=AEner je recopie une partition grav=C3=A9e en 1= 910 accessible ici > : > > http://imslp.org/wiki/Special:ImagefromIndex/00509 > > http://imslp.org/wiki/Special:ImagefromIndex/00509 > > Sur la premi=C3=A8re page, en bas =C3=A0 droite, il y a un motif que je= ne r=C3=A9ussis > pas > > =C3=A0 reproduire. Je sais que d'autres artisans graveurs ont utilis=C3= =A9s deux > > barres de croches mais une seule fait plus joli et j'ai vu une partitio= n > > r=C3=A9cente fait avec un autre logiciel (que je ne connais pas) qui av= ait > cette > > barre particuli=C3=A8re. > > Savez-vous si lilypond autorise ce motif ? > > Bonsoir, > > La derni=C3=A8re mesure ? Cela doit =C3=AAtre possible via un "cross-sta= ff". > NR 2.2.1 Vue d=E2=80=99ensemble des claviers > Hampes et changements de p= ort=C3=A9e > > http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/notation/common-notation-for-= keyboards#cross_002dstaff-stems > > Si c'est pour reproduire les croches point=C3=A9es puis double croche qu'= on > retrouve premi=C3=A8re page apr=C3=A8s la double barre (fin du syst=C3=A8= me 2 et > au syst=C3=A8me 3) et qui passent "derri=C3=A8re" les accords de la main = droite, > il faudrait =C3=A0 mon avis jouer avec les "layer" et "whiteout". Je pen= se > qu'il faudrait =C3=A9galement *d=C3=A9sactiver* (momentan=C3=A9ment) la r= =C3=A9solution de > collision pour les barres de ligatures. > > Mais Mike est bien plus expert que moi dans ce domaine. > > Cordialement, > Xavier > > -- > Xavier Scheuer <[hidden email]> > > > _______________________________________________ > liste de diffusion lilypond-user-fr > [hidden email] > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user-fr > > > ------------------------------ > If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion > below: > > http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabble.com/piano-Barre-de-croche-= au-milieu-d-accords-tp7228668p7228716.html > To unsubscribe from [piano] Barre de croche au milieu d'accords, click > here > . > NAML > -- View this message in context: http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabbl= e.com/piano-Barre-de-croche-au-milieu-d-accords-tp7228668p7229581.html Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ------=_Part_3337_5430169.1327660286870 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Merci de me r=C3=A9pon= dre. En fait, j'utilise Lilypond seulement depuis une semaine. J'ai= copi=C3=A9 sans trop de soucis tout le d=C3=A9but de la partition (excepti= on du probl=C3=A8me de la fin du syst=C3=A8me deux que j'ai contourn=C3= =A9) jusqu'=C3=A0 cette mesure et mon manque d'exp=C3=A9rience se f= ait cruellement sentir. C'est la simultan=C3=A9it=C3=A9 des accords qui= me g=C3=AAne, je ne sais pas comment utiliser Cross-staff pour cela.
Sans me faire toute les croches (c'est r=C3=A9barbatif =C3=A0 copier !)= pourrais-tu me montrer la structure =C3=A0 utiliser ?
Merci encore, bon= ne journ=C3=A9e :-)

Le 27 janvier 2012 07:22, Xavier Scheuer [via LilyPond French U= sers] <[hidde= n email]> a =C3=A9crit :
=092012/1/27 Caocoa <[hidden email]>:

> Bonjour,
> Pour m=E2=80=99entra=C3=AEner je recopie une partition grav=C3=A9e= en 1910 accessible ici :
> http://imslp.org/wiki/Spe= cial:ImagefromIndex/00509
> http://imslp.org/wiki/Special:ImagefromIndex/00509
> Sur la premi=C3=A8re page, en bas =C3=A0 droite, il y a un motif que j= e ne r=C3=A9ussis pas
> =C3=A0 reproduire. Je sais que d'autres artisans graveurs ont = utilis=C3=A9s deux
> barres de croches mais une seule fait plus joli et j'ai vu une= partition
> r=C3=A9cente fait avec un autre logiciel (que je ne connais pas) q= ui avait cette
> barre particuli=C3=A8re.
> Savez-vous si lilypond autorise ce motif ?

Bonsoir,

La derni=C3=A8re mesure ? =C2=A0Cela doit =C3=AAtre possible via un= "cross-staff".
NR 2.2.1 Vue d=E2=80=99ensemble des claviers > Hampes et changements= de port=C3=A9e
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/notatio= n/common-notation-for-keyboards#cross_002dstaff-stems

Si c'est pour reproduire les croches point=C3=A9es puis double croc= he qu'on
retrouve premi=C3=A8re page apr=C3=A8s la double barre (fin du syst=C3= =A8me 2 et
au syst=C3=A8me 3) et qui passent "derri=C3=A8re" les accords= de la main droite,
il faudrait =C3=A0 mon avis jouer avec les "layer" et "w= hiteout". =C2=A0Je pense
qu'il faudrait =C3=A9galement *d=C3=A9sactiver* (momentan=C3=A9ment= ) la r=C3=A9solution de
collision pour les barres de ligatures.

Mais Mike est bien plus expert que moi dans ce domaine.

Cordialement,
Xavier

--=20
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------=_Part_3337_5430169.1327660286870-- From MAILER-DAEMON Sat Jan 28 16:04:44 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1RrFS0-0005fo-6D for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Jan 2012 16:04:44 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:48215) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RrFRx-0005fi-VN for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Jan 2012 16:04:42 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RrFRw-00018n-VC for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Jan 2012 16:04:41 -0500 Received: from ld64.inmotionhosting.com ([205.134.255.128]:49078) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RrFRw-00018R-Px for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Jan 2012 16:04:40 -0500 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39620 helo=webmail.apollinemike.com) by ld64.inmotionhosting.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RrFRr-0002KI-92 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Jan 2012 13:04:35 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2012 13:04:34 -0800 From: mike@apollinemike.com To: Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Dur=C3=A9es=20partition=20et=20dur=C3=A9es=20midi?= Message-ID: <53cb3d63419bce223065df50b1121051@apollinemike.com> X-Sender: mike@apollinemike.com User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/0.5.2 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - ld64.inmotionhosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - apollinemike.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Windows 98 (1) X-Received-From: 205.134.255.128 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2012 21:04:42 -0000 Bonsoir toute l'équipe, Je travaille sur une partition swing où la plupart de rythmes sont notés avec des paires de croches (raccourci classique où la première croche = 2 croches dans un triolet). Il y a toutefois quelques endroits où je dois utiliser des triolets écrits. Dans le MIDI, je ne veux pas de décalage entre la 3ème croche du triolet et la 2ème croche de la paire. Dans la partition, par contre, je veux l'espacement traditionnel des croches par rapport aux triolets. Ce serait facile à accomplir dans le MIDI avec une manip comme : << \new Staff { c8*4/3 c8*2/3 } \new Staff { \times 2/3 { c c c } } >> mais ça décale l'espacement des croches dans la partition. Est-ce qu'il y a un moyen de dire à LilyPond qu'on ne souhaite multiplier les valeurs rythmiques que dans le MIDI et pas dans le PDF ? Merci ! ~Mike From MAILER-DAEMON Sat Jan 28 16:15:27 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1RrFcN-0006s3-QL for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Jan 2012 16:15:27 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:59851) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RrFcM-0006rv-46 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Jan 2012 16:15:27 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RrFcL-0002TH-2l for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Jan 2012 16:15:26 -0500 Received: from ld64.inmotionhosting.com ([205.134.255.128]:49289) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RrFcK-0002TC-V0 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Jan 2012 16:15:25 -0500 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39831 helo=webmail.apollinemike.com) by ld64.inmotionhosting.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RrFcK-0003Jv-Lr for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Jan 2012 13:15:24 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2012 13:15:24 -0800 From: mike@apollinemike.com To: Subject: Re: =?UTF-8?Q?Dur=C3=A9es=20partition=20et=20dur=C3=A9es=20midi?= In-Reply-To: <53cb3d63419bce223065df50b1121051@apollinemike.com> References: <53cb3d63419bce223065df50b1121051@apollinemike.com> Message-ID: <1f21b25a0f4bab90e7d22a5fa014411e@apollinemike.com> X-Sender: mike@apollinemike.com User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/0.5.2 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - ld64.inmotionhosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - apollinemike.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Windows 98 (1) X-Received-From: 205.134.255.128 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2012 21:15:27 -0000 On Sat, 28 Jan 2012 13:04:34 -0800, mike@apollinemike.com wrote: > Bonsoir toute l'équipe, > > Je travaille sur une partition swing où la plupart de rythmes sont > notés avec des paires de croches (raccourci classique où la première > croche = 2 croches dans un triolet). Il y a toutefois quelques > endroits où je dois utiliser des triolets écrits. Dans le MIDI, je > ne > veux pas de décalage entre la 3ème croche du triolet et la 2ème > croche > de la paire. Dans la partition, par contre, je veux l'espacement > traditionnel des croches par rapport aux triolets. > > Ce serait facile à accomplir dans le MIDI avec une manip comme : > > << > \new Staff { c8*4/3 c8*2/3 } > \new Staff { \times 2/3 { c c c } } >>> > > mais ça décale l'espacement des croches dans la partition. Est-ce > qu'il y a un moyen de dire à LilyPond qu'on ne souhaite multiplier > les > valeurs rythmiques que dans le MIDI et pas dans le PDF ? > > Merci ! > ~Mike > Je rajoute une question supplémentaire qui n'est pas lilypondienne proprement dit mais plutôt une question de style. S'il y a trop de croches / triolets simultanés et le rythme est lent, est-ce qu'il vaut mieux passer en 6/8 ou 12/8 et reprendre le 4/4 quand le morceau reprend son tempo de départ (très rapide). ~Mike From MAILER-DAEMON Sat Jan 28 17:44:57 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1RrH0z-0000Qi-Hn for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Jan 2012 17:44:57 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:44376) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RrH0w-0000Qc-QH for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Jan 2012 17:44:55 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RrH0v-0004Aq-Jg for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Jan 2012 17:44:54 -0500 Received: from mail-pz0-f41.google.com ([209.85.210.41]:38526) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RrH0v-0004Ak-62 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Jan 2012 17:44:53 -0500 Received: by dake40 with SMTP id e40so2665996dak.0 for ; Sat, 28 Jan 2012 14:44:52 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=+QU1wt0A95mi08X7NvAZIlU4ycF3PFDTjMeAhVUTcAo=; b=XB/WzbMZRGwCoQefj8HMBEBnPsILgEEP5rgSHFBOMu5Zibx2knSjFOGrRgJN/djBqK GMezh88fFH41Z3NSxPW0qCemDkfdX+RWv6DS0sbiELZkZKoJeS8KrpFvOOZ/m5fCKyVT T+TUZ56+KAEkTO4C08K02Bn5DJFO7h9VBQ6vA= Received: by 10.68.218.231 with SMTP id pj7mr24079058pbc.63.1327790692282; Sat, 28 Jan 2012 14:44:52 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.237.15 with HTTP; Sat, 28 Jan 2012 14:44:32 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <1327618905329-7228668.post@n2.nabble.com> From: Xavier Scheuer Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2012 23:44:32 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [piano] Barre de croche au milieu d'accords To: Caocoa , mike@apollinemike.com Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=047d7b2ed26d8caf3b04b79e5cbf X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 209.85.210.41 Cc: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2012 22:44:56 -0000 --047d7b2ed26d8caf3b04b79e5cbf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 2012/1/27 Caocoa : > Merci de me r=C3=A9pondre. En fait, j'utilise Lilypond seulement depuis u= ne > semaine. J'ai copi=C3=A9 sans trop de soucis tout le d=C3=A9but de la par= tition > (exception du probl=C3=A8me de la fin du syst=C3=A8me deux que j'ai conto= urn=C3=A9) jusqu'=C3=A0 > cette mesure et mon manque d'exp=C3=A9rience se fait cruellement sentir. = C'est la > simultan=C3=A9it=C3=A9 des accords qui me g=C3=AAne, je ne sais pas comme= nt utiliser > Cross-staff pour cela. > Sans me faire toute les croches (c'est r=C3=A9barbatif =C3=A0 copier !) p= ourrais-tu me > montrer la structure =C3=A0 utiliser ? > Merci encore, bonne journ=C3=A9e :-) D=C3=A9sol=C3=A9, c'est plus compliqu=C3=A9 que ce que j'avais pens=C3=A9. Je n'avais pas remarqu=C3=A9 qu'ils trichaient pour avoir les hampes qui se rejoignent (hampes vers le bas t=C3=AAte de note =C3=A0 droite de la ham= pe et hampes vers le haut t=C3=AAte de la note =C3=A0 gauche de la hampe) en fais= ant des hampes pas droites et en d=C3=A9calant l=C3=A9g=C3=A8rement les t=C3=AA= tes de notes pour les croches en question. Mais on devrait pouvoir obtenir un bon r=C3=A9sultat sans cela avec une seule barre de ligature commune. Seulement =C3=A0 cause du point pr=C3=A9c= =C3=A9dent la "solution" d'utiliser uniquement la barre de ligature des notes de la port=C3=A9e du haut ou uniquement celle de la port=C3=A9e du bas en supp= rimant l'autre et en allongeant les hampes ne donne pas un bon r=C3=A9sultat pour respectivement la derni=C3=A8re ou la premi=C3=A8re croche qui se retrouver= ait sans que la barre de ligature ne la rejoigne (pas s=C3=BBr que je sois tr=C3=A8s clair). Bref, la "bonne" solution serait de garder les deux barres de ligature et de *simplement* les superposer (puisqu'elles ont la m=C3=AAme pente). Probl=C3=A8me : je n'arrive pas =C3=A0 d=C3=A9sactiver tous les m=C3=A9cani= smes qui emp=C3=AAchent justement ce genre de collision/superposition. J'ai essay=C3=A9 : \override Stem #'cross-staff =3D ##t \override NoteColumn #'ignore-collision =3D ##t \override Beam #'collision-interfaces =3D #'() mais aussi supprimer le "padding" entre les port=C3=A9es, sans succ=C3=A8s. Je te conseille d'attendre une =C3=A9ventuelle r=C3=A9ponse de Mike (l'expe= rt en r=C3=A9solution de collisions, sp=C3=A9cialement en ce qui concerne les bar= res de ligatures) qui expliquerait pour une fois comment *provoquer* une collision ! ;-D Ou bien de poser la question sur la liste internationale o=C3=B9 il y a des experts bien plus cal=C3=A9s que moi. Ci-joint un fichier reprenant les notes de la mesure en question ainsi que la mesure pr=C3=A9c=C3=A9dente (et mes tentatives infructueuses). 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Sat, 28 Jan 2012 14:52:34 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.237.15 with HTTP; Sat, 28 Jan 2012 14:52:14 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <53cb3d63419bce223065df50b1121051@apollinemike.com> References: <53cb3d63419bce223065df50b1121051@apollinemike.com> From: Xavier Scheuer Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2012 23:52:14 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re=3A_Dur=C3=A9es_partition_et_dur=C3=A9es_midi?= To: mike@apollinemike.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 209.85.160.41 Cc: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2012 22:52:39 -0000 2012/1/28 : > Bonsoir toute l'=C3=A9quipe, > > Je travaille sur une partition swing o=C3=B9 la plupart de rythmes sont n= ot=C3=A9s > avec des paires de croches (raccourci classique o=C3=B9 la premi=C3=A8re = croche =3D 2 > croches dans un triolet). Il y a toutefois quelques endroits o=C3=B9 je = dois > utiliser des triolets =C3=A9crits. Dans le MIDI, je ne veux pas de d=C3= =A9calage > entre la 3=C3=A8me croche du triolet et la 2=C3=A8me croche de la paire. = Dans la > partition, par contre, je veux l'espacement traditionnel des croches par > rapport aux triolets. > > Ce serait facile =C3=A0 accomplir dans le MIDI avec une manip comme : > > << > \new Staff { c8*4/3 c8*2/3 } > \new Staff { \times 2/3 { c c c } } > >> > >> > > mais =C3=A7a d=C3=A9cale l'espacement des croches dans la partition. Est= -ce qu'il y a > un moyen de dire =C3=A0 LilyPond qu'on ne souhaite multiplier les valeurs > rythmiques que dans le MIDI et pas dans le PDF ? Discut=C3=A9 il y a peu sur la liste internationale. http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2012-01/msg00282.html Mais aussi sur cette liste. http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabble.com/swing-et-sortie-midi-td7= 104134.html Les r=C3=A9ponses qui reviennent sont le "hack" de Christopher R. Maden http://crism.maden.org/music/swing.ly et ce qu'on retrouve dans les commentaires de l'issue #687 http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=3D687 Cordialement, Xavier --=20 Xavier Scheuer From MAILER-DAEMON Sat Jan 28 19:51:54 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1RrIzq-0006Va-9d for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Jan 2012 19:51:54 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:55306) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RrIzn-0006VT-Mj for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Jan 2012 19:51:53 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RrIzm-0001Hz-6X for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Jan 2012 19:51:51 -0500 Received: from sam.nabble.com ([216.139.236.26]:39261) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RrIzl-0001Ht-UI for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Jan 2012 19:51:50 -0500 Received: from jim.nabble.com ([192.168.236.80]) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RrIzl-0004CR-2h for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Jan 2012 16:51:49 -0800 Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2012 16:51:49 -0800 (PST) From: Caocoa To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: <1327618905329-7228668.post@n2.nabble.com> Subject: Re: [piano] Barre de croche au milieu d'accords MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_129980_21356118.1327798309077" X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 216.139.236.26 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2012 00:51:53 -0000 ------=_Part_129980_21356118.1327798309077 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Merci beaucoup de ta r=C3=A9ponse. Je fais encore quelques tentatives en attendant Mike puis je vais sur la liste internationale. Le 29 janvier 2012 06:45, Xavier Scheuer [via LilyPond French Users] < ml-node+s1298960n7233165h41@n2.nabble.com> a =C3=A9crit : > 2012/1/27 Caocoa <[hidden email]>: > > > Merci de me r=C3=A9pondre. En fait, j'utilise Lilypond seulement depuis= une > > semaine. J'ai copi=C3=A9 sans trop de soucis tout le d=C3=A9but de la p= artition > > (exception du probl=C3=A8me de la fin du syst=C3=A8me deux que j'ai con= tourn=C3=A9) > jusqu'=C3=A0 > > cette mesure et mon manque d'exp=C3=A9rience se fait cruellement sentir= . > C'est la > > simultan=C3=A9it=C3=A9 des accords qui me g=C3=AAne, je ne sais pas com= ment utiliser > > Cross-staff pour cela. > > Sans me faire toute les croches (c'est r=C3=A9barbatif =C3=A0 copier !) > pourrais-tu me > > montrer la structure =C3=A0 utiliser ? > > Merci encore, bonne journ=C3=A9e :-) > > D=C3=A9sol=C3=A9, c'est plus compliqu=C3=A9 que ce que j'avais pens=C3=A9= . > > Je n'avais pas remarqu=C3=A9 qu'ils trichaient pour avoir les hampes qui > se rejoignent (hampes vers le bas t=C3=AAte de note =C3=A0 droite de la h= ampe et > hampes vers le haut t=C3=AAte de la note =C3=A0 gauche de la hampe) en fa= isant > des hampes pas droites et en d=C3=A9calant l=C3=A9g=C3=A8rement les t=C3= =AAtes de notes > pour les croches en question. > > Mais on devrait pouvoir obtenir un bon r=C3=A9sultat sans cela avec une > seule barre de ligature commune. Seulement =C3=A0 cause du point pr=C3= =A9c=C3=A9dent > la "solution" d'utiliser uniquement la barre de ligature des notes de > la port=C3=A9e du haut ou uniquement celle de la port=C3=A9e du bas en su= pprimant > l'autre et en allongeant les hampes ne donne pas un bon r=C3=A9sultat pou= r > respectivement la derni=C3=A8re ou la premi=C3=A8re croche qui se retrouv= erait > sans que la barre de ligature ne la rejoigne (pas s=C3=BBr que je sois > tr=C3=A8s clair). > > Bref, la "bonne" solution serait de garder les deux barres de ligature > et de *simplement* les superposer (puisqu'elles ont la m=C3=AAme pente). > Probl=C3=A8me : je n'arrive pas =C3=A0 d=C3=A9sactiver tous les m=C3=A9ca= nismes qui > emp=C3=AAchent justement ce genre de collision/superposition. > > J'ai essay=C3=A9 : > > \override Stem #'cross-staff =3D ##t > \override NoteColumn #'ignore-collision =3D ##t > \override Beam #'collision-interfaces =3D #'() > > mais aussi supprimer le "padding" entre les port=C3=A9es, sans succ=C3=A8= s. > > Je te conseille d'attendre une =C3=A9ventuelle r=C3=A9ponse de Mike (l'ex= pert en > r=C3=A9solution de collisions, sp=C3=A9cialement en ce qui concerne les b= arres de > ligatures) qui expliquerait pour une fois comment *provoquer* une > collision ! ;-D Ou bien de poser la question sur la liste > internationale o=C3=B9 il y a des experts bien plus cal=C3=A9s que moi. > > Ci-joint un fichier reprenant les notes de la mesure en question ainsi > que la mesure pr=C3=A9c=C3=A9dente (et mes tentatives infructueuses). > > Cordialement, > Xavier > > -- > Xavier Scheuer <[hidden email]> > > > _______________________________________________ > liste de diffusion lilypond-user-fr > [hidden email] > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user-fr > > *coacoa.ly* (3K) Download Attachment > > > ------------------------------ > If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion > below: > > http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabble.com/piano-Barre-de-croche-= au-milieu-d-accords-tp7228668p7233165.html > To unsubscribe from [piano] Barre de croche au milieu d'accords, click > here > . > NAML > -- View this message in context: http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabbl= e.com/piano-Barre-de-croche-au-milieu-d-accords-tp7228668p7233331.html Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ------=_Part_129980_21356118.1327798309077 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Merci beaucoup de ta r= =C3=A9ponse. Je fais encore quelques tentatives en attendant Mike puis je v= ais sur la liste internationale.

Le 29 janvier 2012 06:45, Xavier Scheuer [via LilyPond French Users] = <[hidden emai= l]> a =C3=A9crit :
=092012/1/27 Caocoa <[hidden email]>:
> Merci de me r=C3=A9pondre. En fait,= j'utilise Lilypond seulement depuis une
> semaine. J'ai copi=C3=A9 sans trop de soucis tout le d=C3=A9bu= t de la partition
> (exception du probl=C3=A8me de la fin du syst=C3=A8me deux que j&#= 39;ai contourn=C3=A9) jusqu'=C3=A0
> cette mesure et mon manque d'exp=C3=A9rience se fait cruelleme= nt sentir. C'est la
> simultan=C3=A9it=C3=A9 des accords qui me g=C3=AAne, je ne sais pa= s comment utiliser
> Cross-staff pour cela.
> Sans me faire toute les croches (c'est r=C3=A9barbatif =C3=A0 = copier !) pourrais-tu me
> montrer la structure =C3=A0 utiliser ?
> Merci encore, bonne journ=C3=A9e :-)

D=C3=A9sol=C3=A9, c'e= st plus compliqu=C3=A9 que ce que j'avais pens=C3=A9.

Je n'avais pas remarqu=C3=A9 qu'ils trichaient pour avoir l= es hampes qui
se rejoignent (hampes vers le bas t=C3=AAte de note =C3=A0 droite de la= hampe et
hampes vers le haut t=C3=AAte de la note =C3=A0 gauche de la hampe) en = faisant
des hampes pas droites et en d=C3=A9calant l=C3=A9g=C3=A8rement les t= =C3=AAtes de notes
pour les croches en question.

Mais on devrait pouvoir obtenir un bon r=C3=A9sultat sans cela avec= une
seule barre de ligature commune. =C2=A0Seulement =C3=A0 cause du point = pr=C3=A9c=C3=A9dent
la "solution" d'utiliser uniquement la barre de ligature = des notes de
la port=C3=A9e du haut ou uniquement celle de la port=C3=A9e du bas en = supprimant
l'autre et en allongeant les hampes ne donne pas un bon r=C3=A9sult= at pour
respectivement la derni=C3=A8re ou la premi=C3=A8re croche qui se retro= uverait
sans que la barre de ligature ne la rejoigne (pas s=C3=BBr que je sois
tr=C3=A8s clair).

Bref, la "bonne" solution serait de garder les deux barre= s de ligature
et de *simplement* les superposer (puisqu'elles ont la m=C3=AAme pe= nte).
Probl=C3=A8me : je n'arrive pas =C3=A0 d=C3=A9sactiver tous les m= =C3=A9canismes qui
emp=C3=AAchent justement ce genre de collision/superposition.

J'ai essay=C3=A9 :

=C2=A0 \override Stem #'cross-staff =3D ##t
=C2=A0 \override NoteColumn #'ignore-collision =3D ##t
=C2=A0 \override Beam #'collision-interfaces =3D #'()

mais aussi supprimer le "padding" entre les port=C3=A9es,= sans succ=C3=A8s.

Je te conseille d'attendre une =C3=A9ventuelle r=C3=A9ponse de = Mike (l'expert en
r=C3=A9solution de collisions, sp=C3=A9cialement en ce qui concerne les= barres de
ligatures) qui expliquerait pour une fois comment *provoquer* une
collision ! =C2=A0;-D =C2=A0Ou bien de poser la question sur la liste
internationale o=C3=B9 il y a des experts bien plus cal=C3=A9s que moi.

Ci-joint un fichier reprenant les notes de la mesure en question ai= nsi
que la mesure pr=C3=A9c=C3=A9dente (et mes tentatives infructueuses).

Cordialement,
Xavier

--=20
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------=_Part_129980_21356118.1327798309077-- From MAILER-DAEMON Sun Jan 29 03:03:36 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1RrPjb-0007CH-Vn for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2012 03:03:35 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:59621) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RrPjZ-0007BC-4f for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2012 03:03:34 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RrPjX-0004hS-UL for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2012 03:03:33 -0500 Received: from ld64.inmotionhosting.com ([205.134.255.128]:56306) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RrPjX-0004hF-JI for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2012 03:03:31 -0500 Received: from aputeaux-652-1-247-63.w82-124.abo.wanadoo.fr ([82.124.182.63]:63251 helo=new-host.home) by ld64.inmotionhosting.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RrPjV-0005aW-Q3; Sun, 29 Jan 2012 00:03:30 -0800 Subject: Re: [piano] Barre de croche au milieu d'accords Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_78FC33F0-C0A6-4699-9A35-6CDB9FD27FF7" From: "mike@apollinemike.com" In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2012 09:03:26 +0100 Message-Id: References: <1327618905329-7228668.post@n2.nabble.com> To: Caocoa X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - ld64.inmotionhosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - apollinemike.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Windows 98 (1) X-Received-From: 205.134.255.128 Cc: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2012 08:03:34 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_78FC33F0-C0A6-4699-9A35-6CDB9FD27FF7 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 On Jan 29, 2012, at 1:51 AM, Caocoa wrote: > J'ai essay=E9 :=20 >=20 > \override Stem #'cross-staff =3D ##t=20 > \override NoteColumn #'ignore-collision =3D ##t=20 > \override Beam #'collision-interfaces =3D #'()=20 >=20 C'est le genre de collision qui est tr=E8s difficile =E0 =E9viter dans = LilyPond ! LilyPond ne croit pas qu'il s'agisse d'une collision entre 2 = barres de ligature - elle essaie d'=E9viter la collision des deux = syst=E8mes. D'abord, tu peux rajouter \override Beam #'cross-staff =3D = ##t =E0 la liste de Xavier ci-dessus. Si cela ne marche pas, te = conseillerais d'utiliser une seule barre de ligature et ensuite de faire = des hampes qui enjambent la lacune entre les port=E9es en augmentant la = propri=E9t=E9 `length': = http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.14/Documentation/notation/common-notation-for-k= eyboards#cross_002dstaff-stems Cordialement, ~Mike= --Apple-Mail=_78FC33F0-C0A6-4699-9A35-6CDB9FD27FF7 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1
J'ai essay=E9 :

  \override Stem #'cross-staff =3D ##t
  \override NoteColumn #'ignore-collision =3D ##t
  \override Beam #'collision-interfaces =3D #'() =


= C'est le genre de collision qui est tr=E8s difficile =E0 =E9viter dans = LilyPond !  LilyPond ne croit pas qu'il s'agisse d'une collision = entre 2 barres de ligature - elle essaie d'=E9viter la collision des = deux syst=E8mes.  D'abord, tu peux rajouter \override Beam = #'cross-staff =3D ##t =E0 la liste de Xavier ci-dessus.  Si cela ne = marche pas, te conseillerais d'utiliser une seule barre de ligature et = ensuite de faire des hampes qui enjambent la lacune entre les port=E9es = en augmentant la propri=E9t=E9 `length':


Cordialement,
~Mike
= --Apple-Mail=_78FC33F0-C0A6-4699-9A35-6CDB9FD27FF7-- From MAILER-DAEMON Sun Jan 29 03:35:13 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1RrQED-0002al-R0 for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2012 03:35:13 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:41923) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RrQE7-0002Y0-Te for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2012 03:35:11 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RrQE4-0008Lw-BS for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2012 03:35:07 -0500 Received: from smtp04.osg.ufl.edu ([128.227.74.71]:39593 helo=smtp.ufl.edu) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RrQE3-0008KY-St for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2012 03:35:04 -0500 Received: from new-host.home (APuteaux-652-1-247-63.w82-124.abo.wanadoo.fr [82.124.182.63]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.ufl.edu (8.14.0/8.14.0/3.0.0) with ESMTP id q0T8YxVL011616 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Sun, 29 Jan 2012 03:35:00 -0500 Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re=3A_Dur=E9es_partition_et_dur=E9es_midi?= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_835843FD-DFB5-45CB-BF78-DD4D621FB9A0" From: "mike@apollinemike.com" In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2012 09:34:58 +0100 Message-Id: References: <53cb3d63419bce223065df50b1121051@apollinemike.com> To: Xavier Scheuer X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.6.7361, 1.0.211, 0.0.0000 definitions=2012-01-29_01:2012-01-27, 2012-01-29, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1201290010 X-UFL-Spam-Level: * X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 128.227.74.71 Cc: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2012 08:35:11 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_835843FD-DFB5-45CB-BF78-DD4D621FB9A0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 On Jan 28, 2012, at 11:52 PM, Xavier Scheuer wrote: > 2012/1/28 : >> Bonsoir toute l'=E9quipe, >>=20 >> Je travaille sur une partition swing o=F9 la plupart de rythmes sont = not=E9s >> avec des paires de croches (raccourci classique o=F9 la premi=E8re = croche =3D 2 >> croches dans un triolet). Il y a toutefois quelques endroits o=F9 je = dois >> utiliser des triolets =E9crits. Dans le MIDI, je ne veux pas de = d=E9calage >> entre la 3=E8me croche du triolet et la 2=E8me croche de la paire. = Dans la >> partition, par contre, je veux l'espacement traditionnel des croches = par >> rapport aux triolets. >>=20 >> Ce serait facile =E0 accomplir dans le MIDI avec une manip comme : >>=20 >> << >> \new Staff { c8*4/3 c8*2/3 } >> \new Staff { \times 2/3 { c c c } } >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>=20 >> mais =E7a d=E9cale l'espacement des croches dans la partition. = Est-ce qu'il y a >> un moyen de dire =E0 LilyPond qu'on ne souhaite multiplier les = valeurs >> rythmiques que dans le MIDI et pas dans le PDF ? >=20 > Discut=E9 il y a peu sur la liste internationale. > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2012-01/msg00282.html >=20 > Mais aussi sur cette liste. > = http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabble.com/swing-et-sortie-midi-td= 7104134.html >=20 > Les r=E9ponses qui reviennent sont le "hack" de Christopher R. Maden > http://crism.maden.org/music/swing.ly > et ce qu'on retrouve dans les commentaires de l'issue #687 > http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=3D687 >=20 > Cordialement, > Xavier >=20 Merci, Xavier. Je n'ai pas test=E9 toutes les solutions, mais il me sembles qu'elles = m=E8nent toutes au m=EAme r=E9sultat (ci-joint). \version "2.14.0" \include "swing.ly" << \new Staff \swingIt #8 { a'8 a' a' a' a' a' a' a' } \new Staff { a'8 a' a' a' a' a' a' a' } \new Staff { \times 2/3 { a'8 a' a' } \times 2/3 { a' a' a' } \times = 2/3 { a' a' a' } \times 2/3 { a' a' a' } } >>=20 Ce dont j'aurais besoin, c'est une mani=E8re de traiter les donn=E9es = musicales qui sont interpr=E9t=E9es par les "Performers" (les objets = dans le code qui d=E9composent le flot Scheme pour en faire un fichier = MIDI) sans changer les donn=E9es =E0 destination des graveurs. Je = creuse un peu dans la source pour voir si c'est possible... 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id 1RrR9X-0000ng-TW for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2012 04:34:27 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:39459) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RrR9R-0000hO-0C for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2012 04:34:25 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RrR9P-0005lv-FM for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2012 04:34:20 -0500 Received: from mail-pw0-f41.google.com ([209.85.160.41]:49939) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RrR9P-0005lc-9P for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2012 04:34:19 -0500 Received: by pbaa12 with SMTP id a12so3144204pba.0 for ; Sun, 29 Jan 2012 01:34:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=dcShqiPmHbWjRkWV3I1u2R9DmcHuzew6XCFjSgGDfJY=; 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X-Received-From: 209.85.160.41 Cc: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2012 09:34:26 -0000 2012/1/29 mike@apollinemike.com : > > Ce dont j'aurais besoin, c'est une mani=C3=A8re de traiter les donn=C3=A9= es > musicales qui sont interpr=C3=A9t=C3=A9es par les "Performers" (les objet= s dans > le code qui d=C3=A9composent le flot Scheme pour en faire un fichier MIDI= ) > sans changer les donn=C3=A9es =C3=A0 destination des graveurs. Je creuse= un > peu dans la source pour voir si c'est possible... C'est ce que fait la solution de Christopher R. Maden http://crism.maden.org/music/swing.ly en les s=C3=A9parant via la partie suivante de sa fonction \tag #'layout { $notes } \tag #'midi { $swing } non ? (Je n'ai pas test=C3=A9) Cordialement, Xavier --=20 Xavier Scheuer From MAILER-DAEMON Sun Jan 29 04:41:08 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1RrRG0-0001N0-VU for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2012 04:41:08 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:44523) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RrRFw-0001Mu-GH for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2012 04:41:08 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RrRFp-0006Td-Iz for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2012 04:41:04 -0500 Received: from smtp04.osg.ufl.edu ([128.227.74.71]:41961 helo=smtp.ufl.edu) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RrRFp-0006TH-9r for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2012 04:40:57 -0500 Received: from new-host.home (APuteaux-652-1-247-63.w82-124.abo.wanadoo.fr [82.124.182.63]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.ufl.edu (8.14.0/8.14.0/3.0.0) with ESMTP id q0T9eqTH026817 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Sun, 29 Jan 2012 04:40:54 -0500 Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re=3A_Dur=E9es_partition_et_dur=E9es_midi?= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 From: "mike@apollinemike.com" In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2012 10:40:51 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <55D17887-A3B2-40DD-93EA-D67B25CF7DB6@apollinemike.com> References: <53cb3d63419bce223065df50b1121051@apollinemike.com> To: Xavier Scheuer X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.6.7361, 1.0.211, 0.0.0000 definitions=2012-01-29_01:2012-01-27, 2012-01-29, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1201290023 X-UFL-Spam-Level: * X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 128.227.74.71 Cc: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2012 09:41:08 -0000 On Jan 29, 2012, at 10:33 AM, Xavier Scheuer wrote: > 2012/1/29 mike@apollinemike.com : >>=20 >> Ce dont j'aurais besoin, c'est une mani=E8re de traiter les donn=E9es >> musicales qui sont interpr=E9t=E9es par les "Performers" (les objets = dans >> le code qui d=E9composent le flot Scheme pour en faire un fichier = MIDI) >> sans changer les donn=E9es =E0 destination des graveurs. Je creuse = un >> peu dans la source pour voir si c'est possible... >=20 > C'est ce que fait la solution de Christopher R. Maden > http://crism.maden.org/music/swing.ly > en les s=E9parant via la partie suivante de sa fonction >=20 > \tag #'layout { $notes } > \tag #'midi { $swing } >=20 > non ? (Je n'ai pas test=E9) >=20 > Cordialement, > Xavier Mais avec cette solution, j'ai l'impression qu'il faudrait compiler le = fichier deux fois en changeant le \removeWithTag =E0 chaque fois pour = =E9carter la musique qu'on n'utilise pas, non ? ~Mike= From MAILER-DAEMON Sun Jan 29 04:57:20 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1RrRVg-0004nu-13 for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2012 04:57:20 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:41917) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RrRVd-0004nn-ME for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2012 04:57:18 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RrRVc-0000g6-HH for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2012 04:57:17 -0500 Received: from mail-pw0-f41.google.com ([209.85.160.41]:38404) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RrRVc-0000fw-Cb for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2012 04:57:16 -0500 Received: by pbaa12 with SMTP id a12so3153627pba.0 for ; Sun, 29 Jan 2012 01:57:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=77ScP/Zrx9YN22mo7R8pTS+jg8kLn4DesjbfgkillJY=; b=s3OAeVxYZ5NMVkubKsljYmWPOqnQtrwCKABhTyFymN4BGps08tUb2m1NedXBb3Hdtb pjcFHF19MJxbX2gSZa9mmOvr/KI49Nf3C61HqXNMG5bso5izsLrHbxjs7OfAK7rkBnFS AmEg+f8PxDvIfNrvDWfc5FlFI+vH1IdufzWF8= Received: by 10.68.212.40 with SMTP id nh8mr30690270pbc.114.1327831035279; Sun, 29 Jan 2012 01:57:15 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.237.15 with HTTP; Sun, 29 Jan 2012 01:56:55 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <55D17887-A3B2-40DD-93EA-D67B25CF7DB6@apollinemike.com> References: <53cb3d63419bce223065df50b1121051@apollinemike.com> <55D17887-A3B2-40DD-93EA-D67B25CF7DB6@apollinemike.com> From: Xavier Scheuer Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2012 10:56:55 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re=3A_Dur=C3=A9es_partition_et_dur=C3=A9es_midi?= To: "mike@apollinemike.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 209.85.160.41 Cc: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2012 09:57:18 -0000 2012/1/29 mike@apollinemike.com : > > Mais avec cette solution, j'ai l'impression qu'il faudrait compiler > le fichier deux fois en changeant le \removeWithTag =C3=A0 chaque fois > pour =C3=A9carter la musique qu'on n'utilise pas, non ? Ou le compiler une seule fois mais avoir 2 blocs \score : un avec \keepWithTag #'layout et uniquement \layout (pas de \midi ) et un autre avec \keepWithTag #'midi et uniquement \midi (pas de \layout ). C'est une pratique assez courante et on la retrouve dans la doc par exemple lorsqu'on souhaite d=C3=A9velopper les reprises dans le midi avec \unfoldRepeats . http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/notation/repeats-in-midi Cordialement, Xavier --=20 Xavier Scheuer From MAILER-DAEMON Sun Jan 29 05:00:53 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1RrRZ7-00064a-P2 for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2012 05:00:53 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:53843) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RrRZ3-00061d-LE for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2012 05:00:50 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RrRZ1-0001By-6e for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2012 05:00:49 -0500 Received: from smtp01.osg.ufl.edu ([128.227.74.149]:44586 helo=smtp.ufl.edu) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RrRZ0-0001Bu-VV for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2012 05:00:47 -0500 Received: from new-host.home (APuteaux-652-1-247-63.w82-124.abo.wanadoo.fr [82.124.182.63]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.ufl.edu (8.14.0/8.14.0/3.0.0) with ESMTP id q0TA0hQF006392 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Sun, 29 Jan 2012 05:00:44 -0500 Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re=3A_Dur=E9es_partition_et_dur=E9es_midi?= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 From: "mike@apollinemike.com" In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2012 11:00:42 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <53cb3d63419bce223065df50b1121051@apollinemike.com> <55D17887-A3B2-40DD-93EA-D67B25CF7DB6@apollinemike.com> To: Xavier Scheuer X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.6.7361, 1.0.211, 0.0.0000 definitions=2012-01-29_01:2012-01-27, 2012-01-29, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1201290029 X-UFL-Spam-Level: * X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 128.227.74.149 Cc: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2012 10:00:51 -0000 On Jan 29, 2012, at 10:56 AM, Xavier Scheuer wrote: > 2012/1/29 mike@apollinemike.com : >>=20 >> Mais avec cette solution, j'ai l'impression qu'il faudrait compiler >> le fichier deux fois en changeant le \removeWithTag =E0 chaque fois >> pour =E9carter la musique qu'on n'utilise pas, non ? >=20 > Ou le compiler une seule fois mais avoir 2 blocs \score : > un avec \keepWithTag #'layout et uniquement \layout (pas de \midi = ) > et un autre avec \keepWithTag #'midi et uniquement \midi > (pas de \layout ). >=20 > C'est une pratique assez courante et on la retrouve dans la doc > par exemple lorsqu'on souhaite d=E9velopper les reprises dans le midi > avec \unfoldRepeats . > http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/notation/repeats-in-midi >=20 > Cordialement, > Xavier Aucun probl=E8me n'est trop grand pour toi ! Dank u ! ~Mike From MAILER-DAEMON Sun Jan 29 09:42:05 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1RrVxF-0004Hq-6J for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2012 09:42:05 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:56854) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RrVx7-0004Ep-KG for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2012 09:42:03 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RrVx6-0000Xq-GS for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2012 09:41:57 -0500 Received: from sam.nabble.com ([216.139.236.26]:42879) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RrVx6-0000Xk-AZ for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2012 09:41:56 -0500 Received: from jim.nabble.com ([192.168.236.80]) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RrVx4-0008Ty-Jj for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2012 06:41:54 -0800 Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2012 06:41:54 -0800 (PST) From: legoss To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Message-ID: <1327848114210-7234421.post@n2.nabble.com> Subject: Notation batterie MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 216.139.236.26 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2012 14:42:03 -0000 Bonjour =C3=A0 tous, Je dois saisir plusieurs partitions de batterie. Comme mon fils est dans sa 5=C3=A8me ann=C3=A9e en Conservatoire, je lui ai demand=C3=A9 de me montrer= ses m=C3=A9thodes et partitions pour voir un peut comment =C3=A7a se pr=C3=A9sente. Et, comme l'= aurait dit Herr Kapellmeister Stanislas Lefort, chef d'orchestre =C3=A0 l'Op=C3=A9ra d= e Paris :=20 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DlLV_zZr3spw "C'est l=C3=A0 qu'est l'os..."= : la notation de Lilypond est sensiblement diff=C3=A9rente.=20 1. Est-ce que je dois me r=C3=A9signer =C3=A0 une notation de la Belle au r= isque que les batteurs fran=C3=A7ais qui liraient mes toches soient dans la confusion= ? seraient-il dans la confusion d'ailleurs ? 2. Ou bien existe-t-il une option dans Lilypond permettant d'obtenir, avec une m=C3=AAme saisie un r=C3=A9sultat diff=C3=A9rent niveau partition ? 3. Une autre id=C3=A9e ? Merci pour votre aide, Laurent -- View this message in context: http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabbl= e.com/Notation-batterie-tp7234421p7234421.html Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From MAILER-DAEMON Sun Jan 29 11:26:25 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1RrXaD-0001jB-K7 for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2012 11:26:25 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:37266) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RrXaA-0001gE-Qy for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2012 11:26:23 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RrXa9-0004PK-Vl for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2012 11:26:22 -0500 Received: from smtp03.smtpout.orange.fr ([80.12.242.125]:27398 helo=smtp.smtpout.orange.fr) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RrXa9-0004PB-RU for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2012 11:26:21 -0500 Received: from daniel-ms-7204.localnet ([90.9.246.242]) by mwinf5d57 with ME id TUSH1i00H5EXLi203USJNX; Sun, 29 Jan 2012 17:26:18 +0100 From: Daniel Cartron To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Subject: Re: Notation batterie Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2012 17:26:38 +0100 Message-ID: <2624364.epMXufq9l9@daniel-ms-7204> User-Agent: KMail/4.7.3 (Linux/3.0.0-14-generic; KDE/4.7.4; i686; ; ) In-Reply-To: <1327848114210-7234421.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1327848114210-7234421.post@n2.nabble.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.12.242.125 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2012 16:26:23 -0000 Le Dimanche 29 Janvier 2012 06:41:54 legoss a =E9crit : > 2. Ou bien existe-t-il une option dans Lilypond permettant d'obtenir,= avec > une m=EAme saisie un r=E9sultat diff=E9rent niveau partition ? oui on peut d=E9fnir ses propres relations notes/instrument y compris l= a forme=20 des t=EAtes de note. je sais que =E7a a =E9t=E9 publi=E9 sur la liste en r=E9ponse =E0 une q= uestion de ma part=20 mais je cherche dans mes archives et je poste d=E8s que possible --=20 Cordialement, Daniel Cartron From MAILER-DAEMON Sun Jan 29 11:32:10 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1RrXfm-0002Ap-VW for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2012 11:32:10 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:49566) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RrXfk-0002Aj-K1 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2012 11:32:09 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RrXfh-00057W-Ml for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2012 11:32:08 -0500 Received: from smtp03.smtpout.orange.fr ([80.12.242.125]:31034 helo=smtp.smtpout.orange.fr) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RrXfh-00057K-Gt for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2012 11:32:05 -0500 Received: from daniel-ms-7204.localnet ([90.9.246.242]) by mwinf5d57 with ME id TUY31i00F5EXLi203UY4Mh; Sun, 29 Jan 2012 17:32:04 +0100 From: Daniel Cartron To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Subject: Re: Notation batterie Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2012 17:32:23 +0100 Message-ID: <4476213.IzXPsbag6q@daniel-ms-7204> User-Agent: KMail/4.7.3 (Linux/3.0.0-14-generic; KDE/4.7.4; i686; ; ) In-Reply-To: <1327848114210-7234421.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1327848114210-7234421.post@n2.nabble.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.12.242.125 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2012 16:32:09 -0000 Le Dimanche 29 Janvier 2012 06:41:54 legoss a =E9crit : > 2. Ou bien existe-t-il une option dans Lilypond permettant d'obtenir,= avec > une m=EAme saisie un r=E9sultat diff=E9rent niveau partition ? Ben finalement c'=E9tait pas bien loin De m=E9moire () veut dire t=EAte de note normale, sinon on pr=E9cise cr= oss, diamond=20 etc... le #f je sais plus vraiment, et le chiffre c'est le d=E9callage = par=20 rapport =E0 la ligne de base mais je dis peut-=EAtre des b=E9tises, en = tout cas en=20 testant un peu =E7a devrait aller. #(define drums-sonjon '( =09(bassdrum () #f -5) =09(pedalhihat cross #f -5) =09(snare () #f 0) =09(lowfloortom () #f -3) =09(himidtom () #f 1) =09(hightom () #f 3) =09(closedhihat cross #f 5) =09(openhihat xcircle #f 5) =09(ridecymbal cross #f 5) =09(crashcymbal xcircle #f 5) =09(splashcymbal diamond #f 5) =09(chinesecymbal mensural #f 5) )) Ensuite dans le score je met=20 =09\new DrumStaff \with { =09=09\override DrumStaff #'TimeSignature #'style =3D #'() =09=09fontSize =3D #1 =09=09\override StaffSymbol #'staff-space =3D #(magstep 1) =09=09drumStyleTable =3D #(alist->hash-table drums-sonjon)=20 =09=09\consists "Parenthesis_engraver" =09=09} et =E7a le fait, donc avec plusieurs definitions et des lignes drumStyl= eTable =E0=20 (d=E9)-commenter =E7a marchera entout cas j'esp=E8re --=20 Cordialement, Daniel Cartron From MAILER-DAEMON Sun Jan 29 12:56:34 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1RrYzS-0006W1-LS for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2012 12:56:34 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:47277) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RrYzQ-0006Vv-3Z for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2012 12:56:33 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RrYzN-0007O5-7f for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2012 12:56:32 -0500 Received: from smtp5-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.5]:41849) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RrYzM-0007Nt-DG for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2012 12:56:29 -0500 Received: from [88.184.126.48] (unknown [88.184.126.48]) by smtp5-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id A440AD48373 for ; Sun, 29 Jan 2012 18:56:21 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4F258806.6050401@free.fr> Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2012 18:55:18 +0100 From: =?UTF-8?B?UGhpbCBIw6l6YWluZQ==?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:9.0) Gecko/20120117 Thunderbird/9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Subject: Re: Notation batterie References: <1327848114210-7234421.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <1327848114210-7234421.post@n2.nabble.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 212.27.42.5 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2012 17:56:33 -0000 Le 29/01/2012 15:41, legoss a =C3=A9crit : > "C'est l=C3=A0 qu'est l'os..." : la > notation de Lilypond est sensiblement diff=C3=A9rente. Bonsoir, Je pense que Daniel t'as donn=C3=A9 la r=C3=A9ponse. Est-ce trop demander que de d=C3=A9tailler ce qui est diff=C3=A9rent entr= e les=20 partitions et la notation Lilypond? Phil. From MAILER-DAEMON Sun Jan 29 13:47:53 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1RrZn7-0004j8-F5 for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2012 13:47:53 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:45399) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RrZn4-0004iy-JR for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2012 13:47:51 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RrZn3-0005RQ-53 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2012 13:47:50 -0500 Received: from sam.nabble.com ([216.139.236.26]:35405) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RrZn3-0005RK-0f for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2012 13:47:49 -0500 Received: from jim.nabble.com ([192.168.236.80]) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RrZn1-0001bF-O1 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2012 10:47:47 -0800 Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2012 10:47:47 -0800 (PST) From: legoss To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Message-ID: <1327862867737-7234841.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <4F258806.6050401@free.fr> References: <1327848114210-7234421.post@n2.nabble.com> <4F258806.6050401@free.fr> Subject: Re: Notation batterie MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 216.139.236.26 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2012 18:47:51 -0000 Merci pour vos r=C3=A9ponse. Ph. Hezaine wrote >=20 > Est-ce trop demander que de d=C3=A9tailler ce qui est diff=C3=A9rent entr= e les=20 > partitions et la notation Lilypond? http://www.cnpmusic.com/plus/media/partition%20batterie.gif Bien s=C3=BBr q= ue non!=20 @Daniel : j'ai trouv=C3=A9=20 http://harry.fourmi.pagesperso-orange.fr/mn52_lilypond/Chapitre2/Lilypond_2= .html ceci ... Avec votre aide, je devrais m'en sortir. Quand m=C3=AAme du boulot en perspective... mais pas ce soir, je souffre de c=C3=A9phal=C3=A9es. Une pri= se de t=C3=AAte en plus et j'explose. Merci encore, Laurent -- View this message in context: http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabbl= e.com/Notation-batterie-tp7234421p7234841.html Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From MAILER-DAEMON Sun Jan 29 14:22:40 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1RraKm-0006TI-U8 for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2012 14:22:40 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:42074) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RraKj-0006PU-8X for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2012 14:22:38 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RraKh-0001z3-JK for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2012 14:22:37 -0500 Received: from smtp5-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.5]:56329) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RraKg-0001ym-S9 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2012 14:22:35 -0500 Received: from [88.184.126.48] (unknown [88.184.126.48]) by smtp5-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFEEDD481BD for ; Sun, 29 Jan 2012 20:22:28 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4F259C35.5030402@free.fr> Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2012 20:21:25 +0100 From: =?UTF-8?B?UGhpbCBIw6l6YWluZQ==?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:9.0) Gecko/20120117 Thunderbird/9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Subject: Re: Notation batterie References: <1327848114210-7234421.post@n2.nabble.com> <4F258806.6050401@free.fr> <1327862867737-7234841.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <1327862867737-7234841.post@n2.nabble.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 212.27.42.5 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2012 19:22:38 -0000 Le 29/01/2012 19:47, legoss a =C3=A9crit : > Merci pour vos r=C3=A9ponse. > Ph. Hezaine wrote >> >> Est-ce trop demander que de d=C3=A9tailler ce qui est diff=C3=A9rent e= ntre les >> partitions et la notation Lilypond? > http://www.cnpmusic.com/plus/media/partition%20batterie.gif Bien s=C3=BB= r que > non! > @Daniel : j'ai trouv=C3=A9 > http://harry.fourmi.pagesperso-orange.fr/mn52_lilypond/Chapitre2/Lilypo= nd_2.html > ceci ... > Avec votre aide, je devrais m'en sortir. Quand m=C3=AAme du boulot en > perspective... mais pas ce soir, je souffre de c=C3=A9phal=C3=A9es. Une= prise de t=C3=AAte > en plus et j'explose. > Merci encore, > Laurent Le lien vers le tuto de notation de batterie dans la page du 2=C3=A8me li= en=20 que tu cites devrait =C3=AAtre amplement suffisant. Je le remets ici pour m=C3=A9moire: http://sjoubert.pagesperso-orange.fr/lilypond/tuto.html Si tu as encore des probl=C3=A8mes, n'h=C3=A9site pas =C3=A0 demander. Phil. From MAILER-DAEMON Sun Jan 29 15:25:48 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1RrbJs-0003WW-Ti for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2012 15:25:48 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:54020) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RrbJq-0003WP-CE for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2012 15:25:47 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RrbJp-00015E-B5 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2012 15:25:46 -0500 Received: from sam.nabble.com ([216.139.236.26]:41244) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RrbJp-000158-31 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2012 15:25:45 -0500 Received: from jim.nabble.com ([192.168.236.80]) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RrbJn-0001o3-N9 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2012 12:25:43 -0800 Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2012 12:25:43 -0800 (PST) From: legoss To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Message-ID: <1327868743708-7234965.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <4F259C35.5030402@free.fr> References: <1327848114210-7234421.post@n2.nabble.com> <4F258806.6050401@free.fr> <1327862867737-7234841.post@n2.nabble.com> <4F259C35.5030402@free.fr> Subject: Re: Notation batterie MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 216.139.236.26 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2012 20:25:47 -0000 trop top cette liste. Il y des gars (et des filles ) vraiment comp=C3=A9te= nts. =C3=87a fait du bien de savoir que si on est largu=C3=A9 =C3=A0 un moment donn=C3= =A9, il y aura toujours quelqu'un pour vous lancer une bou=C3=A9e ou plus. C'est vraiment motivant. Bon ben, me reste plus qu'=C3=A0 apprendre =C3=A0 nager! Merci pour la disponibilit=C3=A9 et la patience des membres de la liste, Laurent -- View this message in context: http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabbl= e.com/Notation-batterie-tp7234421p7234965.html Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From MAILER-DAEMON Mon Jan 30 03:57:43 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1Rrn3X-0004bx-Qz for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 03:57:43 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:50742) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rrn3Q-0004bg-SB for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 03:57:42 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rrn3O-0007mI-PA for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 03:57:36 -0500 Received: from sam.nabble.com ([216.139.236.26]:60566) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rrn3O-0007ly-Ky for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 03:57:34 -0500 Received: from jim.nabble.com ([192.168.236.80]) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rrn3L-0000Da-Eq for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 00:57:31 -0800 Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 00:57:31 -0800 (PST) From: bameylan To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Message-ID: <1327913851439-7236009.post@n2.nabble.com> Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Emplacement_des_alt=C3=A9ration_en_basse_continue?= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 216.139.236.26 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 08:57:42 -0000 Bonjour =C3=A0 tous, comme indiqu=C3=A9 ici: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/notation/figured-bass (Morceaux choisis: Emplacement des alt=C3=A9ration en basse continue) j'ai introduit = ces deux commandes pour mettre les alt=C3=A9rations =C3=A0 droite des chiffres.= Seulement =C3=A9tant en \figuremode, cela n'a aucun effet. Si je passe en \figures to= ut est parfait mais j'utilise \figuremode pour pouvoir changer la fonte de mes chiffres et cela ne semble (ou pas...?) pas possible sous \figures (j'ai tent=C3=A9 et les chiffres reprennent leur fonte par d=C3=A9faut). J'ai aus= si essay=C3=A9 de remplacer: \set *figuredBass*AlterationDirection =3D #RIGHT par \set *Staff.BassFigure*AlterationDirection =3D #RIGHT mais cela n'est pas une commande accept=C3=A9e... Connaissez-vous un moyen de pouvoir profiter de cette fonctionnalit=C3=A9 (chiffres =C3=A0 droite) en =C3=A9tant en \figuremode? Bernard -- View this message in context: http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabbl= e.com/Emplacement-des-alteration-en-basse-continue-tp7236009p7236009.html Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From MAILER-DAEMON Mon Jan 30 04:16:25 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1RrnLd-0006GD-Uv for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 04:16:25 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:35957) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RrnLY-0006G3-KI for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 04:16:24 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RrnLU-0003Bx-Ek for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 04:16:20 -0500 Received: from smtp01.osg.ufl.edu ([128.227.74.149]:57574 helo=smtp.ufl.edu) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RrnLU-0003Bp-70 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 04:16:16 -0500 Received: from new-host.home (APuteaux-652-1-247-63.w82-124.abo.wanadoo.fr [82.124.182.63]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.ufl.edu (8.14.0/8.14.0/3.0.0) with ESMTP id q0U9G9aB009468 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Mon, 30 Jan 2012 04:16:11 -0500 Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re=3A_Emplacement_des_alt=E9ration_en_basse_conti?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?nue?= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 From: "mike@apollinemike.com" In-Reply-To: <1327913851439-7236009.post@n2.nabble.com> Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 10:16:08 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <1E2503DC-A347-4F42-B903-9D03B518FB60@apollinemike.com> References: <1327913851439-7236009.post@n2.nabble.com> To: bameylan X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.6.7361, 1.0.211, 0.0.0000 definitions=2012-01-30_02:2012-01-29, 2012-01-30, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1201300018 X-UFL-Spam-Level: * X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 128.227.74.149 Cc: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 09:16:24 -0000 On Jan 30, 2012, at 9:57 AM, bameylan wrote: > Bonjour =E0 tous, >=20 > comme indiqu=E9 ici: > http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/notation/figured-bass = (Morceaux > choisis: Emplacement des alt=E9ration en basse continue) j'ai = introduit ces > deux commandes pour mettre les alt=E9rations =E0 droite des chiffres. = Seulement > =E9tant en \figuremode, cela n'a aucun effet. Si je passe en \figures = tout est > parfait mais j'utilise \figuremode pour pouvoir changer la fonte de = mes > chiffres et cela ne semble (ou pas...?) pas possible sous \figures = (j'ai > tent=E9 et les chiffres reprennent leur fonte par d=E9faut). J'ai = aussi essay=E9 > de remplacer: \set *figuredBass*AlterationDirection =3D #RIGHT par = \set > *Staff.BassFigure*AlterationDirection =3D #RIGHT mais cela n'est pas = une > commande accept=E9e... >=20 > Connaissez-vous un moyen de pouvoir profiter de cette fonctionnalit=E9 > (chiffres =E0 droite) en =E9tant en \figuremode? >=20 Essaie d'emballer ton code dans un \new FiguredBass : \new FiguredBass { \figuremode { ton code } } Je ne sais pas si =E7a marchera, mais je pense que \figures est un = raccourci pour la syntaxe ci-dessus. Il y a certaines manips qui ne = sont possibles que dans un contexte bien d=E9fini (comme FiguredBass) - = il se peut que celle que tu essaies entre dans cette cat=E9gorie. Cordialement, ~Mike= From MAILER-DAEMON Mon Jan 30 05:24:33 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1RroPZ-0006M1-7P for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 05:24:33 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:56369) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RroPS-0006Lt-DP for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 05:24:31 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RroPR-0005cM-9N for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 05:24:26 -0500 Received: from sam.nabble.com ([216.139.236.26]:42117) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RroPR-0005cE-1u for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 05:24:25 -0500 Received: from jim.nabble.com ([192.168.236.80]) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RroPP-0002jr-PJ for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 02:24:23 -0800 Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 02:24:23 -0800 (PST) From: legoss To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Message-ID: <1327919063773-7236143.post@n2.nabble.com> Subject: Batterie et repeat percent MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 216.139.236.26 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 10:24:31 -0000 Bonjour =C3=A0 tous, Voici le code : %%%%%%%%%%%%%% \version "2.14.2" \new DrumStaff=20 << \drummode { \set countPercentRepeats =3D ##t \repeat percent 8 { << =20 { hh4:16 hh16 hh hh \times 2/3 { hh32 hh hh } hh4:16 hh4:16 }=20 \\=20 { bd4 r r2 } >> } } >> %%%%%%%%%%%%%% Je cherche =C3=A0 comprendre pourquoi mes s=C3=A9quences de mesures sont = =C3=A9tal=C3=A9es sur 4 lignes alors qu'elles pourraient ais=C3=A9ment rentrer sur une seule. Merci pour votre aide. Cordialement, Laurent -- View this message in context: http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabbl= e.com/Batterie-et-repeat-percent-tp7236143p7236143.html Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From MAILER-DAEMON Mon Jan 30 05:34:41 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1RroZN-0000Gd-05 for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 05:34:41 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:48793) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RroZK-0000GW-JL for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 05:34:39 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RroZE-0006wb-TT for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 05:34:38 -0500 Received: from sam.nabble.com ([216.139.236.26]:43004) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RroZE-0006wX-Oh for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 05:34:32 -0500 Received: from jim.nabble.com ([192.168.236.80]) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RroZC-0003lO-Kk for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 02:34:30 -0800 Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 02:34:30 -0800 (PST) From: bameylan To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Message-ID: <1327919670634-7236159.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <1E2503DC-A347-4F42-B903-9D03B518FB60@apollinemike.com> References: <1327913851439-7236009.post@n2.nabble.com> <1E2503DC-A347-4F42-B903-9D03B518FB60@apollinemike.com> Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re:_Emplacement_des_alt=C3=A9ration_en_basse_continue?= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 216.139.236.26 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 10:34:39 -0000 mike@apollinemike.com wrote >=20 > Essaie d'emballer ton code dans un \new FiguredBass : >=20 D=C3=A9j=C3=A0 fait Mike... et =C3=A7a ne marche pas. =C3=87a m'=C3=B4te *t= ous* les effets que j'y avait ins=C3=A9r=C3=A9s (fonte diff=C3=A9rente, lignes d'extensions sans ch= iffre, et autres), mais effectivement =C3=A7a permet de mettre les alt=C3=A9rations = =C3=A0 droite des chiffres... Non, je suis le client du style =C2=ABLes croissants=C2=BB... l= e beurre et l'argent du beurre... =20 Bernard -- View this message in context: http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabbl= e.com/Emplacement-des-alteration-en-basse-continue-tp7236009p7236159.html Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From MAILER-DAEMON Mon Jan 30 05:43:58 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1RroiM-0001LD-Ox for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 05:43:58 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:53775) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RroiF-0001JF-GT for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 05:43:56 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rroi9-0008D8-Q3 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 05:43:51 -0500 Received: from sam.nabble.com ([216.139.236.26]:43745) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rroi9-0008Cv-LD for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 05:43:45 -0500 Received: from jim.nabble.com ([192.168.236.80]) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rroi8-0004d4-MP for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 02:43:44 -0800 Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 02:43:44 -0800 (PST) From: legoss To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Message-ID: <1327920224679-7236173.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <1327919063773-7236143.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1327919063773-7236143.post@n2.nabble.com> Subject: Re: Batterie et repeat percent MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 216.139.236.26 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 10:43:57 -0000 Si je le pr=C3=A9sente comme cela, le probl=C3=A8me demeure : %%%%%%%%%%%%% \version "2.14.2" \new DrumStaff << \new DrumVoice {=20 \voiceOne \drummode { \set countPercentRepeats =3D ##t \repeat percent 8 {=20 hh4:16 hh16 hh hh \times 2/3 { hh32 hh hh } hh4:16 hh4:16=20 }=20 } } \new DrumVoice {=20 \voiceTwo \drummode { \set countPercentRepeats =3D ##t \repeat percent 8 {=20 bd4 r r2 } } } >> %%%%%%%%%%%%% En revanche, en rajoutant 2 pauses, mais pas moins, =C3=A7a revient =C3=A0 = la normale (sauf que j'ai 2 pauses =C3=A0 la fin de ma toche:=20 %%%%%%%%%%%%% \version "2.14.2" \new DrumStaff << \new DrumVoice {=20 \voiceOne \drummode { \set countPercentRepeats =3D ##t \repeat percent 8 {=20 hh4:16 hh16 hh hh \times 2/3 { hh32 hh hh } hh4:16 hh4:16=20 }=20 } } \new DrumVoice {=20 \voiceTwo \drummode { \set countPercentRepeats =3D ##t \repeat percent 8 {=20 bd4 r r2 } } r1 r } >> \new DrumStaff << \drummode { \set countPercentRepeats =3D ##t \repeat percent 8 { << =20 { hh4:16 hh16 hh hh \times 2/3 { hh32 hh hh } hh4:16 hh4:16 } \\ { bd4 r r2 } >> } r1 r } >> %%%%%%%%%%%%% -- View this message in context: http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabbl= e.com/Batterie-et-repeat-percent-tp7236143p7236173.html Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From MAILER-DAEMON Mon Jan 30 05:49:05 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1RronJ-0001zS-VP for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 05:49:05 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:53727) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RronC-0001tD-3x for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 05:49:03 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rron6-0000il-Ge for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 05:48:58 -0500 Received: from sam.nabble.com ([216.139.236.26]:44073) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rron6-0000ih-Bh for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 05:48:52 -0500 Received: from jim.nabble.com ([192.168.236.80]) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rron5-00052y-F6 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 02:48:51 -0800 Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 02:48:51 -0800 (PST) From: legoss To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Message-ID: <1327920531459-7236176.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <1327920224679-7236173.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1327919063773-7236143.post@n2.nabble.com> <1327920224679-7236173.post@n2.nabble.com> Subject: Re: Batterie et repeat percent MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 216.139.236.26 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 10:49:03 -0000 Mais voil=C3=A0 que =C3=A7a recommence : %%%%%%%%%%%% \new DrumStaff << \drummode { \compressFullBarRests \override MultiMeasureRest #'expand-limit =3D #1 \set countPercentRepeats =3D ##t % intro R1*8 % couplet 1 \bar"||" R1*8 % refrain \bar"||" R1*9 % couplet 2 \bar"||"=20 \repeat percent 8 { << =20 { hh4:16 hh16 hh hh \times 2/3 { hh32 hh hh } hh4:16 hh4:16 } \\ { bd4 r r2 } >> } % refrain \bar"||"=20 \repeat percent 8 { << =20 { hh4:16 hh16 hh hh \times 2/3 { hh32 hh hh } hh4:16 hh4:16 } \\ { bd4 r r2 } >> } r1 r } >> %%%%%%%%%%%% -- View this message in context: http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabbl= e.com/Batterie-et-repeat-percent-tp7236143p7236176.html Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From MAILER-DAEMON Mon Jan 30 06:08:22 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1Rrp5y-0004v2-Kd for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 06:08:22 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:46375) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rrp5q-0004sC-PL for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 06:08:20 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rrp5p-0003F9-La for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 06:08:14 -0500 Received: from smtp04.osg.ufl.edu ([128.227.74.71]:56067 helo=smtp.ufl.edu) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rrp5p-0003F0-Ft for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 06:08:13 -0500 Received: from new-host.home (APuteaux-652-1-247-63.w82-124.abo.wanadoo.fr [82.124.182.63]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.ufl.edu (8.14.0/8.14.0/3.0.0) with ESMTP id q0UB8732013157 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Mon, 30 Jan 2012 06:08:09 -0500 Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re=3A_Emplacement_des_alt=E9ration_en_basse_conti?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?nue?= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 From: "mike@apollinemike.com" In-Reply-To: <1327919670634-7236159.post@n2.nabble.com> Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 12:08:06 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <15CF2B8B-BCB5-4330-AD04-C597879E2CA0@apollinemike.com> References: <1327913851439-7236009.post@n2.nabble.com> <1E2503DC-A347-4F42-B903-9D03B518FB60@apollinemike.com> <1327919670634-7236159.post@n2.nabble.com> To: bameylan X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.6.7361, 1.0.211, 0.0.0000 definitions=2012-01-30_02:2012-01-29, 2012-01-30, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1201300049 X-UFL-Spam-Level: * X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 128.227.74.71 Cc: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 11:08:20 -0000 On Jan 30, 2012, at 11:34 AM, bameylan wrote: >=20 > mike@apollinemike.com wrote >>=20 >> Essaie d'emballer ton code dans un \new FiguredBass : >>=20 > D=E9j=E0 fait Mike... et =E7a ne marche pas. =C7a m'=F4te *tous* les = effets que j'y > avait ins=E9r=E9s (fonte diff=E9rente, lignes d'extensions sans = chiffre, et > autres), mais effectivement =E7a permet de mettre les alt=E9rations =E0 = droite des > chiffres... Non, je suis le client du style =ABLes croissants=BB... le = beurre et > l'argent du beurre... =20 >=20 > Bernard >=20 Pourrais-tu envoyer un exemple minimal =E0 la liste ? ~Mike From MAILER-DAEMON Mon Jan 30 06:38:36 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1RrpZE-0002YU-Im for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 06:38:36 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:53597) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RrpZ7-0002Rl-KO for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 06:38:35 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RrpZ0-0000MU-9R for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 06:38:29 -0500 Received: from sam.nabble.com ([216.139.236.26]:48039) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RrpZ0-0000Lt-5r for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 06:38:22 -0500 Received: from jim.nabble.com ([192.168.236.80]) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RrpYx-0001eD-QZ for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 03:38:19 -0800 Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 03:38:19 -0800 (PST) From: bameylan To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Message-ID: <1327923499811-7236281.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <15CF2B8B-BCB5-4330-AD04-C597879E2CA0@apollinemike.com> References: <1327913851439-7236009.post@n2.nabble.com> <1E2503DC-A347-4F42-B903-9D03B518FB60@apollinemike.com> <1327919670634-7236159.post@n2.nabble.com> <15CF2B8B-BCB5-4330-AD04-C597879E2CA0@apollinemike.com> Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re:_Emplacement_des_alt=C3=A9ration_en_basse_continue?= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 216.139.236.26 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 11:38:35 -0000 mike@apollinemike.com wrote >=20 > Pourrais-tu envoyer un exemple minimal =C3=A0 la liste ? >=20 Juste... =C3=A7a parle mieux qu'un long discours. Bernard http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabble.com/file/n7236281/quemad.ly quemad.ly=20 -- View this message in context: http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabbl= e.com/Emplacement-des-alteration-en-basse-continue-tp7236009p7236281.html Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. 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[90.46.227.155]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id cg2sm38599941bkb.12.2012.01.30.08.26.50 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 30 Jan 2012 08:26:51 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4F26C4C9.8040203@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 17:26:49 +0100 From: simon User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.24) Gecko/20111108 Thunderbird/3.1.16 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Subject: Chordmode et frescobaldi References: <1327913851439-7236009.post@n2.nabble.com> <1E2503DC-A347-4F42-B903-9D03B518FB60@apollinemike.com> <1327919670634-7236159.post@n2.nabble.com> <15CF2B8B-BCB5-4330-AD04-C597879E2CA0@apollinemike.com> <1327923499811-7236281.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <1327923499811-7236281.post@n2.nabble.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 209.85.214.41 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 16:27:05 -0000 Bonjour à tous, J'ai une drôle d'erreur quand je saisis sur frescobaldi un accord généré par le \chordmode "Firefox ne sait pas ouvrir cette adresse car le protocole (textedit) n'est associé à aucun programme." Que faut-il faire pour corriger cela selon vous? Avec les notes ça marche, mais le chordmode le perturbe... Bonne journée From MAILER-DAEMON Mon Jan 30 13:43:12 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1RrwC8-0000AF-66 for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 13:43:12 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:42788) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RrwC2-00009Z-Jw for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 13:43:10 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RrwC1-0003AV-5E for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 13:43:06 -0500 Received: from smtp03.smtpout.orange.fr ([80.12.242.125]:26877 helo=smtp.smtpout.orange.fr) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RrwC1-0003A0-0x for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 13:43:05 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([80.9.220.77]) by mwinf5d57 with ME id Tuj21i00B1gnXew03uj20A; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 19:43:03 +0100 Message-ID: <4F26E4B6.5070101@orange.fr> Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 19:43:02 +0100 From: Jean-Charles Malahieude User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:9.0) Gecko/20111222 Thunderbird/9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bameylan Subject: Re: Emplacement des =?UTF-8?B?YWx0w6lyYXRpb24gZW4gYmFzc2UgY29udGk=?= =?UTF-8?B?bnVl?= X-Priority: 2 (High) References: <1327913851439-7236009.post@n2.nabble.com> <1E2503DC-A347-4F42-B903-9D03B518FB60@apollinemike.com> <1327919670634-7236159.post@n2.nabble.com> <15CF2B8B-BCB5-4330-AD04-C597879E2CA0@apollinemike.com> <1327923499811-7236281.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <1327923499811-7236281.post@n2.nabble.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.12.242.125 Cc: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 18:43:10 -0000 Le 30/01/2012 12:38, bameylan disait : > > mike@apollinemike.com wrote >> >> Pourrais-tu envoyer un exemple minimal =C3=A0 la liste ? >> > Juste... =C3=A7a parle mieux qu'un long discours. > Chez moi, la d=C3=A9finition suivante marche imp=C3=A9cablement bien : --8<-- bcFigures =3D \figuremode { \global \override Staff.BassFigureAlignmentPositioning #'direction =3D #UP \override Staff.BassFigure #'font-name =3D #"DayRoman Regular" \override Staff.BassFigure #'font-size =3D # 1 \set Staff.figuredBassAlterationDirection =3D #RIGHT et c=C3=A6tera -->8-- @+ Jean-Charles From MAILER-DAEMON Mon Jan 30 16:29:47 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1RrynL-0000AS-CV for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 16:29:47 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:39692) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RrynG-00009n-OX for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 16:29:46 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RrynC-0000QY-SK for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 16:29:42 -0500 Received: from cagole-new.toile-libre.org ([212.85.158.17]:59225 helo=mx-pri.toile-libre.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RrynC-0000Q2-NA for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 16:29:38 -0500 Received: from 106-76.198-178.cust.bluewin.ch ([178.198.76.106] helo=gdze.home) by mx-pri.toile-libre.org with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.71 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1RrynB-000Ogb-U8 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 22:29:38 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: Chordmode et frescobaldi From: Jean-Alexis Montignies In-Reply-To: <4F26C4C9.8040203@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 22:29:37 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <4F67EFA8-6913-4B43-9201-7AD5DA894143@montignies.info> References: <1327913851439-7236009.post@n2.nabble.com> <1E2503DC-A347-4F42-B903-9D03B518FB60@apollinemike.com> <1327919670634-7236159.post@n2.nabble.com> <15CF2B8B-BCB5-4330-AD04-C597879E2CA0@apollinemike.com> <1327923499811-7236281.post@n2.nabble.com> <4F26C4C9.8040203@gmail.com> To: lilypond-user-fr X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-ToileLibre-AuthenticatedID: for mx-pri.toile-libre.org this mail came from ja@montignies.info X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 212.85.158.17 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 21:29:46 -0000 C'est je pense d=FB =E0 un bug de Lilypond: https://github.com/wbsoft/frescobaldi/issues/20 http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=3D1022 :Tu peux = 'voter' pour que le probl=E8me soit corrig=E9 en cliquant dans la = colonne 'Star' pour ce probl=E8me Jean-Alexis On 30 janv. 2012, at 17:26, simon wrote: > Bonjour =E0 tous, >=20 > J'ai une dr=F4le d'erreur quand je saisis sur frescobaldi un accord = g=E9n=E9r=E9 par le \chordmode >=20 > "Firefox ne sait pas ouvrir cette adresse car le protocole (textedit) = n'est associ=E9 =E0 aucun programme." >=20 > Que faut-il faire pour corriger cela selon vous? Avec les notes =E7a = marche, mais le chordmode le perturbe... >=20 > Bonne journ=E9e >=20 > _______________________________________________ > liste de diffusion lilypond-user-fr > lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user-fr From MAILER-DAEMON Mon Jan 30 17:04:58 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1RrzLO-0000Kn-BH for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 17:04:58 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:46937) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RrzLL-0000JU-LT for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 17:04:57 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RrzLF-0007qg-IP for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 17:04:55 -0500 Received: from smtp5-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.5]:43528) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RrzLE-0007mc-RH for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 17:04:49 -0500 Received: from [88.184.126.48] (unknown [88.184.126.48]) by smtp5-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0796FD483E8 for ; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 23:04:40 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4F2713BC.1050309@free.fr> Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 23:03:40 +0100 From: =?UTF-8?B?UGhpbCBIw6l6YWluZQ==?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:9.0) Gecko/20120117 Thunderbird/9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Subject: Re: Batterie et repeat percent References: <1327919063773-7236143.post@n2.nabble.com> <1327920224679-7236173.post@n2.nabble.com> <1327920531459-7236176.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <1327920531459-7236176.post@n2.nabble.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 212.27.42.5 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 22:04:57 -0000 Le 30/01/2012 11:48, legoss a =C3=A9crit : > Mais voil=C3=A0 que =C3=A7a recommence : > %%%%%%%%%%%% > \new DrumStaff > << > \drummode { > \compressFullBarRests > \override MultiMeasureRest #'expand-limit =3D #1 > \set countPercentRepeats =3D ##t > % intro > R1*8 > % couplet 1 > \bar"||" R1*8 > % refrain > \bar"||" R1*9 > % couplet 2 > \bar"||" > \repeat percent 8 { > << > { > hh4:16 hh16 hh hh \times 2/3 { hh32 hh hh } hh4:16 hh4:16 > } > \\ > { > bd4 r r2 > } > >> > } > % refrain > \bar"||" > \repeat percent 8 { > << > { > hh4:16 hh16 hh hh \times 2/3 { hh32 hh hh } hh4:16 hh4:16 > } > \\ > { > bd4 r r2 > } > >> > } > r1 r > } >>> > %%%%%%%%%%%% Est-ce la solution si tu mets les \repeat percent =C3=A0 l'int=C3=A9rieur= des=20 chevrons? Ex: << \repeat percent 8 { { hh4:16 hh16 hh hh \times 2/3 { hh32 hh hh } hh4:16 hh4:16 } \\ { bd4 r r2 } } >> Et juste pour rajouter mon grain de sel je pr=C3=A9f=C3=A8re utiliser: \voiceOne << { } \context Voice=3D"1" { \voiceTwo =09 \oneVoice } >> plut=C3=B4t que la construction: << {} \\ {} >> Phil. From MAILER-DAEMON Mon Jan 30 17:59:17 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1Rs0Bx-0006RY-4a for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 17:59:17 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:52268) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rs0Bq-0006OQ-4b for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 17:59:14 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rs0Bf-0002FG-TI for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 17:59:07 -0500 Received: from sam.nabble.com ([216.139.236.26]:43989) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rs0Bf-0002CL-0d for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 17:58:59 -0500 Received: from jim.nabble.com ([192.168.236.80]) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rs0Bc-0006bz-Le for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 14:58:56 -0800 Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 14:58:56 -0800 (PST) From: bameylan To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Message-ID: <1327964336662-7238350.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <4F26E4B6.5070101@orange.fr> References: <1327913851439-7236009.post@n2.nabble.com> <1E2503DC-A347-4F42-B903-9D03B518FB60@apollinemike.com> <1327919670634-7236159.post@n2.nabble.com> <15CF2B8B-BCB5-4330-AD04-C597879E2CA0@apollinemike.com> <1327923499811-7236281.post@n2.nabble.com> <4F26E4B6.5070101@orange.fr> Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re:_Emplacement_des_alt=C3=A9ration_en_basse_continue?= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 216.139.236.26 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 22:59:14 -0000 Jean-Charles MALAHIEUDE wrote >=20 > Chez moi, la d=C3=A9finition suivante marche imp=C3=A9cablement bien : > \set Staff.figuredBassAlterationDirection =3D #RIGHT >=20 Jean-Charles, tu as mis le doigt exactement l=C3=A0 o=C3=B9 il fallait: j'a= vais totalement omis le =C2=ABStaff=C2=BB dans la commande piqu=C3=A9e dans la d= oc: \set figuredBassAlterationDirection =3D #RIGHT...=20 Comme quoi, il suffit d'oublier un petit truc et plof...=20 Merci Bernard -- View this message in context: http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabbl= e.com/Emplacement-des-alteration-en-basse-continue-tp7236009p7238350.html Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From MAILER-DAEMON Tue Jan 31 01:16:48 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1Rs71L-00075Q-OR for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 01:16:47 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:57367) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rs71I-00074d-OQ for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 01:16:45 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rs71H-0002Ik-Lv for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 01:16:44 -0500 Received: from sam.nabble.com ([216.139.236.26]:42506) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rs71H-0002Ig-IM for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 01:16:43 -0500 Received: from jim.nabble.com ([192.168.236.80]) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rs71F-0001U0-PV for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 22:16:42 -0800 Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 22:16:41 -0800 (PST) From: legoss To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Message-ID: <1327990601774-7239056.post@n2.nabble.com> Subject: Nommer les pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 216.139.236.26 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 06:16:45 -0000 Bonjour =C3=A0 tous, J'ai un fichier du type : \version "2.14.2" \book { \score {=20 << ... >> } } \book { \score {=20 << ... >> } } ... J'ai vraiment beaucoup de contextes \book dans mon fichier. Pour =C3=AAtre pratique, existe-t-il un moyen de nommer pr=C3=A9cis=C3=A9me= nt et automatiquement chaque pdf au moment de la compilation, plut=C3=B4t que de = les renommer un par un par la suite ? d'autant qu'il faut recommencer =C3=A0 ch= aque nouvelle compilation si on apport=C3=A9 une correction au fichier... Merci pour votre aide, Laurent -- View this message in context: http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabbl= e.com/Nommer-les-pdf-tp7239056p7239056.html Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From MAILER-DAEMON Tue Jan 31 03:08:01 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1Rs8kz-00022t-As for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 03:08:01 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:51297) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rs8kr-000202-RU for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 03:07:59 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rs8kn-0007bs-79 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 03:07:53 -0500 Received: from sam.nabble.com ([216.139.236.26]:51301) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rs8kn-0007bl-3G for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 03:07:49 -0500 Received: from jim.nabble.com ([192.168.236.80]) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rs8kl-0003mM-PQ for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 00:07:47 -0800 Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 00:07:47 -0800 (PST) From: Eluze To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Message-ID: <1327997267762-7239228.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <1327990601774-7239056.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1327990601774-7239056.post@n2.nabble.com> Subject: Re: Nommer les pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 216.139.236.26 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 08:07:59 -0000 legoss wrote >=20 > Bonjour >=20 > J'ai vraiment beaucoup de contextes \book dans mon fichier. > Pour =C3=AAtre pratique, existe-t-il un moyen de nommer pr=C3=A9cis=C3=A9= ment et > automatiquement chaque pdf au moment de la compilation, plut=C3=B4t que d= e les > renommer un par un par la suite ? d'autant qu'il faut recommencer =C3=A0 = chaque > nouvelle compilation si on apport=C3=A9 une correction au fichier... >=20 >=20 >=20 je ne comprends pas le terme /automatiquement/ ici - mais LilyPond permet d= e donner un nom particulier =C3=A0 chauqe \book avec \bookOutputSuffix ou \bookOutputName, voir http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/notation/output-file-names cordialement Eluze -- View this message in context: http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabbl= e.com/Nommer-les-pdf-tp7239056p7239228.html Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From MAILER-DAEMON Tue Jan 31 07:11:55 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1RsCZ1-00031z-NS for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 07:11:55 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:50848) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RsCYv-0002zw-41 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 07:11:54 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RsCYp-00034r-HJ for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 07:11:49 -0500 Received: from smtp2-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.2]:47514) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RsCYo-00034U-TT for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 07:11:43 -0500 Received: from [192.168.0.1] (unknown [82.252.143.14]) by smtp2-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4336C4B0249 for ; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 13:11:37 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4F27DA77.3040803@free.fr> Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 13:11:35 +0100 From: Jean-Jacques Gerbaud User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (X11/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Subject: encore et toujours le MIDI dans JEdit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 212.27.42.2 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 12:11:54 -0000 Bonjour, Toujours ce m=C3=AAme probl=C3=A8me de MIDI qui ne veut pas se faire ente= ndre. Voici ma partie \score d'un e partition quelconque : \score { =09 << \new StaffGroup << \new Staff \with { \override SpacingSpanner #'uniform-stretching =3D ##t } {\cello } \new Staff \with { \override SpacingSpanner #'uniform-stretching =3D ##t } {\basson } >> >> \layout { =09 \context { \Score \override SpacingSpanner #'base-shortest-duration =3D #(ly:make-moment 1 2) } }=09 \midi { } } Avec ces indications, lilypond me sort une superbe partition avec deux voix mais lorsque je veux =C3=A9couter avec le lecteur midi de lilypond, celui ci avance mais ne me sort rien ! Pourtant ma carte son fonctionne (cdrom, dvd, radio, youtube) J'ai d=C3=A9j=C3=A0 pos=C3=A9 la question sur la liste mais je n'ai pas e= u de r=C3=A9sultat probant. Peut =C3=AAtre que cette fois-ci ?... Lilypond \version "2.15.25" JEdit 4.4pre1, mode serveur, utilisant la version Sun Microsystems Inc. de Java LinuxMint Katya Merci de votre aide --=20 JJG From MAILER-DAEMON Tue Jan 31 07:15:44 2012 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1RsCci-0003GH-4V for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 07:15:44 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:46118) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RsCcZ-0003EX-5K for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 07:15:42 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RsCcO-0003fA-J7 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 07:15:35 -0500 Received: from sam.nabble.com ([216.139.236.26]:52811) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RsCcO-0003es-EE for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 07:15:24 -0500 Received: from jim.nabble.com ([192.168.236.80]) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RsCRZ-000132-9R for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 04:04:13 -0800 Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 04:04:13 -0800 (PST) From: legoss To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Message-ID: <1328011453140-7239564.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <1327997267762-7239228.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1327990601774-7239056.post@n2.nabble.com> <1327997267762-7239228.post@n2.nabble.com> Subject: Re: Nommer les pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 216.139.236.26 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 12:15:42 -0000 Exactement ce que je cherchais ! 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X-Received-From: 209.85.210.169 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2012 00:20:51 -0000 --e89a8f22c68125f54e04b7dc0d78 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bonjour, Deux questions : =C2=B7 Quand un mot est coup=C3=A9 (par exemple Bon -- jour) et que le jour= se trouve sur un nouveau syst=C3=A8me, est-il possible d=E2=80=99ajouter un tiret de = liaison avant le =C2=AB jour =C2=BB ? =C2=B7 Comment mettre un trait d=E2=80=99union ? Exemple =C2=AB apr=C3=A8s-= midi =C2=BB : si l=E2=80=99on =C3=A9crit =C2=AB apr=C3=A8s -- mi -- di =C2=BB, on risque de ne pas avoir de tiret, s= i l=E2=80=99on =C3=A9crit =C2=AB apr=C3=A8s_- mi -- di =C2=BB ce n=E2=80=99est pas forc=C3=A9ment esth=C3=A9= tique=E2=80=A6 y a-t-il une solution bien ? Merci beaucoup ! --e89a8f22c68125f54e04b7dc0d78 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bonjour,

Deux questions :
=C2=B7 Quand un mot est coup=C3=A9 (par= exemple Bon -- jour) et que le jour se trouve sur un nouveau syst=C3=A8me,= est-il possible d=E2=80=99ajouter un tiret de liaison avant le =C2=AB jour= =C2=BB ?
=C2=B7 Comment mettre un trait d=E2=80=99union ? Exemple =C2= =AB apr=C3=A8s-midi =C2=BB : si l=E2=80=99on =C3=A9crit =C2=AB apr=C3=A8s -= - mi -- di =C2=BB, on risque de ne pas avoir de tiret, si l=E2=80=99on =C3= =A9crit =C2=AB apr=C3=A8s_- mi -- di =C2=BB ce n=E2=80=99est pas forc=C3=A9= ment esth=C3=A9tique=E2=80=A6 y a-t-il une solution bien ?

Merci beaucoup !
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