From MAILER-DAEMON Sat Sep 05 07:53:10 2009 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1MjtpM-0006NF-TY for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Sep 2009 07:53:09 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MjtpJ-0006MG-1B for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Sep 2009 07:53:05 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MjtpD-0006LA-PY for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Sep 2009 07:53:03 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=39917 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MjtpC-0006Ky-6l for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Sep 2009 07:52:58 -0400 Received: from smtp3-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.3]:58433) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MjtpB-000485-8E for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Sep 2009 07:52:57 -0400 Received: from smtp3-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp3-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCB5B818122 for ; Sat, 5 Sep 2009 13:52:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (wmh38-1-82-225-55-68.fbx.proxad.net [82.225.55.68]) by smtp3-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4F0B81811E for ; Sat, 5 Sep 2009 13:52:49 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4AA25111.9030701@laposte.net> Date: Sat, 05 Sep 2009 13:52:49 +0200 From: christophe Organization: Maison User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lily Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090904-0, 04/09/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Subject: conversion finale vers lilypond X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: christophe_cgy.godefroy@laposte.net List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Sep 2009 11:53:05 -0000 bonjour,
j'essaye de transformer un fichier provenant de finale pour le modifier avec Lilypond. je passe d'abord par un format musicxml.
voici la ligne de commande et l'erreur :


C:\Users\christophe\Documents>musicxml2ly KV421.xml
Reading MusicXML from KV421.xml ...
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "C:\Program Files (x86)\LilyPond\usr\bin\musicxml2ly.py", line 2955, in ?

    main()
  File "C:\Program Files (x86)\LilyPond\usr\bin\musicxml2ly.py", line 2950, in m
ain
    voices = convert (filename, options)
  File "C:\Program Files (x86)\LilyPond\usr\bin\musicxml2ly.py", line 2855, in c
onvert
    tree = read_musicxml (filename, options.compressed, options.use_lxml)
  File "C:\Program Files (x86)\LilyPond\usr\bin\musicxml2ly.py", line 2846, in r
ead_musicxml
    return read_xml (io_object, use_lxml)
  File "C:\Program Files (x86)\LilyPond\usr\bin\musicxml2ly.py", line 2808, in r
ead_xml
    doc = minidom.parse(io_object)
  File "C:\Program Files (x86)\LilyPond\usr\lib\python2.4\xml\dom\minidom.py", l
ine 1915, in parse
    return expatbuilder.parse(file)
  File "C:\Program Files (x86)\LilyPond\usr\lib\python2.4\xml\dom\expatbuilder.p
y", line 924, in parse
    result = builder.parseFile(fp)
  File "C:\Program Files (x86)\LilyPond\usr\lib\python2.4\xml\dom\expatbuilder.p
y", line 211, in parseFile
    parser.Parse("", True)
xml.parsers.expat.ExpatError: unclosed token: line 3901, column 19


C:\Users\christophe\Documents>musicxml2ly --version
musicxml2ly.py (LilyPond) 2.12.2

je suis sous vista x64


Avez-vous déjà rencontré ce type de problème ?

Merci pour  votre aide à tous

Christophe

From MAILER-DAEMON Sat Sep 05 08:40:54 2009 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1MjuZa-0001lT-7K for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Sep 2009 08:40:54 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MjuZY-0001jV-PW for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Sep 2009 08:40:52 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MjuZU-0001ec-7N for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Sep 2009 08:40:52 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=56220 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MjuZU-0001eZ-4z for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Sep 2009 08:40:48 -0400 Received: from 216-139-236-80.aus.us.siteprotect.com ([216.139.236.80]:1687 helo=jim.nabble.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MjuZT-000581-Nv for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Sep 2009 08:40:47 -0400 Received: from jim ([127.0.0.1]) by jim.nabble.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sat, 5 Sep 2009 07:40:45 -0500 Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 07:40:45 -0500 (CDT) From: lasconic To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Message-ID: <1252154445564-3585034.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <4AA25111.9030701@laposte.net> References: <4AA25111.9030701@laposte.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Nabble-From: lasconic@gmail.com X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Sep 2009 12:40:45.0580 (UTC) FILETIME=[169244C0:01CA2E26] X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Windows 2000 SP4, XP SP1+ Subject: Re: conversion finale vers lilypond X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Sep 2009 12:40:53 -0000 Sans le fichier MusicXML, =C3=A7a va =C3=AAtre rude... Ouvre ton fichier MusicXML avec un =C3=A9diteur de texte classique. Il y a = quoi =C3=A0 la ligne 3901, colonne 19 ? Sinon essaie d'ouvrir le fichier MusicXML avec un autre =C3=A9diteur de partitions comme MuseScore, voir s'il peut l'ouvrir pour v=C3=A9rifier que = ce n'est pas le Dolet qui importe un mauvais fichier MusicXML. lasconic --=20 View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/conversion-finale-vers-l= ilypond-tp3584909p3585034.html Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From MAILER-DAEMON Sat Sep 05 14:14:29 2009 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1MjzmP-0000SF-91 for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Sep 2009 14:14:29 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MjzmN-0000QY-8A for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Sep 2009 14:14:27 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MjzmI-0000MJ-9F for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Sep 2009 14:14:26 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=49392 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MjzmI-0000MD-2T for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Sep 2009 14:14:22 -0400 Received: from smtp3-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.3]:33257) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MjzmH-0003w7-7f for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Sep 2009 14:14:21 -0400 Received: from smtp3-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp3-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAB2C8180B8; Sat, 5 Sep 2009 20:14:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (wmh38-1-82-225-55-68.fbx.proxad.net [82.225.55.68]) by smtp3-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99164818127; Sat, 5 Sep 2009 20:14:13 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4AA2AA76.906@laposte.net> Date: Sat, 05 Sep 2009 20:14:14 +0200 From: christophe Organization: Maison User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lasconic , lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org References: <4AA25111.9030701@laposte.net> <1252154445564-3585034.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <1252154445564-3585034.post@n2.nabble.com> Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090904-0, 04/09/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Cc: Subject: Re: Re: conversion finale vers lilypond X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: christophe_cgy.godefroy@laposte.net List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Sep 2009 18:14:27 -0000 salut,

la ligne 3901 c'est la dernière ligne du fichier les voici:

          <step>B</step>
          <alter>-1</alter>
          <octave>5</octave>
        </pitch>
        <duration>6</duration>
        <voice>1</voice>
        <type>16th</type>
        <stem>down</stem>
        <beam number="1">continue</beam>
        <beam number="2">continue</beam>
      </note>
      <note>
        <pitch>
          <step>G</step>
          <octave>5</octave>
        </pitch>
        <duration>6</duration


voila comment ça ce fini !

est-ce une fin normale ?


Merci
christophe


lasconic a écrit :
Sans le fichier MusicXML, ça va être rude...
Ouvre ton fichier MusicXML avec un éditeur de texte classique. Il y a quoi à
la ligne 3901, colonne 19 ?
Sinon essaie d'ouvrir le fichier MusicXML avec un autre éditeur de
partitions comme MuseScore, voir s'il peut l'ouvrir pour vérifier que ce
n'est pas le Dolet qui importe un mauvais fichier MusicXML.

lasconic
  
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Vous pouvez en trouver la liste =C3=A0 l'adresse http://lists.lilynet.net ; - les "frogs" sont les apprentis d=C3=A9veloppeurs/d=C3=A9buggeurs de Lily - la liste "midi" est consacr=C3=A9e... au support du midi (Philippe, =C3= =A7a pourrait t'int=C3=A9resser ?) - "proposals" n'est pas encore lanc=C3=A9e officiellement (mais =C3=A7a ne saurait tarder) - "tablatures" est pour les guitaristes de tous poils (elle rencontre d'ailleurs un franc succ=C3=A8s) - "translations" est pour les traducteurs (Jean-Charles, John et moi-m=C3=AAme y sommes pr=C3=A9sents). - et s=C3=BBrement d'autres =C3=A0 venir. Ce sont des listes anglophones mais =C3=A0 faible trafic (par contraste avec les d=C3=A9bats hom=C3=A9riques de lilypond-user ou lilypond-devel), d= onc n'h=C3=A9sitez pas =C3=A0 vous y inscrire si l'une ou l'autre vous int=C3= =A9resse. Les archives sont publiques et fournies par Nabble. Par contre, je vous encourage vivement =C3=A0 ne PAS vous servir de l'interface Nabble pour poster vos messages, mais =C3=A0 vous inscrire par le formulaire en bas de page, puis =C3=A0 vous servir de pr=C3=A9f=C3=A9rence de votre clien= t de messagerie habituel pour recevoir et envoyer vos messages. Cordialement, Valentin From MAILER-DAEMON Sun Sep 06 07:19:42 2009 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1MkFmY-00070M-1G for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Sep 2009 07:19:42 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MkFmW-000708-4z for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Sep 2009 07:19:40 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MkFmR-0006yU-MY for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Sep 2009 07:19:39 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=38459 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MkFmR-0006yR-Ed for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Sep 2009 07:19:35 -0400 Received: from smtp1-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.1]:53044) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MkFmQ-00074q-M5 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Sep 2009 07:19:35 -0400 Received: from smtp1-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp1-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56AE1940049; Sun, 6 Sep 2009 13:19:28 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (pi469-1-82-228-114-228.fbx.proxad.net [82.228.114.228]) by smtp1-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58506940099; Sun, 6 Sep 2009 13:19:26 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4AA39ABD.5010105@free.fr> Date: Sun, 06 Sep 2009 13:19:25 +0200 From: jnmrclgrnd User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Valentin Villenave References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Cc: Lilypond Subject: Re: De nouvelles listes (MIDI, tablatures,...) X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Sep 2009 11:19:40 -0000 Bravissimo ! et merci d'avoir le courage de mettre un tel outil =C3=A0 no= tre disposition !

A bient=C3=B4t

JMarc

Valentin Villenave a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:
Bonjour =C3=A0 tous,

je sais qu'il y a sur la liste des gens int=C3=A9ress=C3=A9s par des fonc=
tions
bien sp=C3=A9cifiques de LilyPond ; comme John et moi avons ouvert le sit=
e
communautaire lilynet.net (uniquement en anglais malheureusement) et
qu'on peut y faire tout ce qu'on veut, j'ai pris l'initiative de cr=C3=A9=
er
des listes de discussions th=C3=A9matiques et informelles.

Vous pouvez en trouver la liste =C3=A0 l'adresse http://lists.lilynet.net=
 ;

 - les "frogs" sont les apprentis d=C3=A9veloppeurs/d=C3=A9buggeurs de Li=
ly
 - la liste "midi" est consacr=C3=A9e... au support du midi (Philippe, =C3=
=A7a
pourrait t'int=C3=A9resser ?)
 - "proposals" n'est pas encore lanc=C3=A9e officiellement (mais =C3=A7a =
ne
saurait tarder)
 - "tablatures" est pour les guitaristes de tous poils (elle rencontre
d'ailleurs un franc succ=C3=A8s)
 - "translations" est pour les traducteurs (Jean-Charles, John et
moi-m=C3=AAme y sommes pr=C3=A9sents).
 - et s=C3=BBrement d'autres =C3=A0 venir.

Ce sont des listes anglophones mais =C3=A0 faible trafic (par contraste
avec les d=C3=A9bats hom=C3=A9riques de lilypond-user ou lilypond-devel),=
 donc
n'h=C3=A9sitez pas =C3=A0 vous y inscrire si l'une ou l'autre vous int=C3=
=A9resse.

Les archives sont publiques et fournies par Nabble. Par contre, je
vous encourage vivement =C3=A0 ne PAS vous servir de l'interface Nabble
pour poster vos messages, mais =C3=A0 vous inscrire par le formulaire en
bas de page, puis =C3=A0 vous servir de pr=C3=A9f=C3=A9rence de votre cli=
ent de
messagerie habituel pour recevoir et envoyer vos messages.

Cordialement,
Valentin


  

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From MAILER-DAEMON Sun Sep 06 07:21:55 2009 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1MkFoh-0000GU-AT for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Sep 2009 07:21:55 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MkFof-0000Du-4i for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Sep 2009 07:21:53 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MkFoZ-00006U-42 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Sep 2009 07:21:51 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=38492 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MkFoY-000067-Pj for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Sep 2009 07:21:46 -0400 Received: from smtp20.orange.fr ([80.12.242.26]:10742) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MkFoX-0007qP-QD for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Sep 2009 07:21:46 -0400 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2027.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id DA8C220000A8 for ; Sun, 6 Sep 2009 13:21:43 +0200 (CEST) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2027.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id CDB0220000A9 for ; Sun, 6 Sep 2009 13:21:43 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.96] (ALagny-153-1-34-50.w86-212.abo.wanadoo.fr [86.212.185.50]) by mwinf2027.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 9B1F820000A8 for ; Sun, 6 Sep 2009 13:21:43 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20090906112143635.9B1F820000A8@mwinf2027.orange.fr Message-ID: <4AA39B3F.4000501@cathemline.org> Date: Sun, 06 Sep 2009 13:21:35 +0200 From: Martial User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. Subject: LSR demi =?utf-8?q?barr=C3=A9_pour_guitare_?= X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Martial List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Sep 2009 11:21:53 -0000 Bonjour Je viens d'ajouter une astuce pour avoir la notation d'un demi barr=C3=A9= sur=20 LSR. N'=C3=A9tant pas tr=C3=A8s dou=C3=A9 en anglais, s'il y a des fautes de l= angage une=20 correction avant validation ne me vexera pas ! http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?u=3D1&id=3D632 ps. Chouette les nouvelles listes --=20 Martial From MAILER-DAEMON Sun Sep 06 08:18:45 2009 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1MkGhh-0000T7-Kd for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Sep 2009 08:18:45 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MkGhe-0000Sx-NO for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Sep 2009 08:18:42 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MkGhZ-0000QS-2p for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Sep 2009 08:18:41 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=54584 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MkGhY-0000Q2-RB for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Sep 2009 08:18:36 -0400 Received: from 216-139-236-80.aus.us.siteprotect.com ([216.139.236.80]:1554 helo=jim.nabble.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MkGhY-0000fe-CN for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Sep 2009 08:18:36 -0400 Received: from jim ([127.0.0.1]) by jim.nabble.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 6 Sep 2009 07:18:33 -0500 Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2009 07:18:33 -0500 (CDT) From: jbminne To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Message-ID: <1252239513268-3592324.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <4A951339.2030802@cathemline.org> References: <1251037362207-3498742.post@n2.nabble.com> <4A92FB9E.9070306@cathemline.org> <1251201633430-3509297.post@n2.nabble.com> <1251283267928-3514688.post@n2.nabble.com> <4A951339.2030802@cathemline.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Nabble-From: jbminne@gmail.com X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Sep 2009 12:18:33.0268 (UTC) FILETIME=[26DD5740:01CA2EEC] X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Windows 2000 SP4, XP SP1+ Subject: =?utf-8?q?Re=3A_barres_de_mesure_=C3=A0_la_fin_des_syst=C3=A8mes?= X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Sep 2009 12:18:43 -0000 Mer ci pour toutes ces solutions et encore bravo pour la derni=C3=A8re, je = ne sais pas trop pourquoi elle marche, je ne me suis pas encore mis =C3=A0 triturer= le langage =C3=A0 fond, mais en tout cas =C3=A7=C3=A0 marche du tonnerre! A tr=C3=A8s bient=C3=B4t sur ce forum pour de nouvelles questions! jbminne Martial-2 wrote: >=20 > Ah oui > Bravo et merci ! >=20 >> =E2=80=A6 et une solution plus facile - et =C3=A9l=C3=A9gante: >> \override Score.SpanBar #'break-visibility =3D #'#( #t #f #t ) >=20 > --=20 > Martial >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > liste de diffusion lilypond-user-fr > lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user-fr >=20 >=20 --=20 View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/barres-de-mesure-a-la-fi= n-des-systemes-tp3498742p3592324.html Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From MAILER-DAEMON Sun Sep 06 08:40:09 2009 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1MkH2O-0002FQ-Uu for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Sep 2009 08:40:08 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MkH2N-0002En-7o for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Sep 2009 08:40:07 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MkH2I-0002Cu-AG for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Sep 2009 08:40:06 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=54958 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MkH2I-0002Cr-3Q for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Sep 2009 08:40:02 -0400 Received: from smtp1-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.1]:55558) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MkH2H-0003X6-C7 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Sep 2009 08:40:01 -0400 Received: from smtp1-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp1-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5122940136 for ; Sun, 6 Sep 2009 14:39:57 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [88.184.126.48] (gan34-1-88-184-126-48.fbx.proxad.net [88.184.126.48]) by smtp1-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id E002794013B for ; Sun, 6 Sep 2009 14:39:54 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4AA3ADC6.7080304@free.fr> Date: Sun, 06 Sep 2009 14:40:38 +0200 From: Philippe Hezaine User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090629) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lilypond-fr References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Subject: Re: De nouvelles listes (MIDI, tablatures,...) X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Sep 2009 12:40:07 -0000 Valentin Villenave a =C3=A9crit : > Bonjour =C3=A0 tous, Bonjour Valentin, >=20 > je sais qu'il y a sur la liste des gens int=C3=A9ress=C3=A9s par des fo= nctions > bien sp=C3=A9cifiques de LilyPond ; comme John et moi avons ouvert le s= ite > communautaire lilynet.net (uniquement en anglais malheureusement) et > qu'on peut y faire tout ce qu'on veut, j'ai pris l'initiative de cr=C3=A9= er > des listes de discussions th=C3=A9matiques et informelles. >=20 > Vous pouvez en trouver la liste =C3=A0 l'adresse http://lists.lilynet.n= et ; >=20 > - les "frogs" sont les apprentis d=C3=A9veloppeurs/d=C3=A9buggeurs de = Lily > - la liste "midi" est consacr=C3=A9e... au support du midi (Philippe, = =C3=A7a > pourrait t'int=C3=A9resser ?) >=20 > Cordialement, > Valentin Oui, bien s=C3=BBr. Et jusqu'=C3=A0 maintenant l'utilisation de mididings= sur des=20 fichiers .ly telle qu'elle est indiqu=C3=A9e dans le Puzzle ne m'a pos=C3= =A9 aucun=20 probl=C3=A8me. Je suis en train d'essayer avec un processus plus automati= s=C3=A9 mais tout n'est pas clair encore dans les conversions des CC7. Cependant=20 j'ai de bonnes raisons de penser que la solution ne va pas tarder, selon=20 les dires de Dominic Sacr=C3=A9. --=20 Phil. From MAILER-DAEMON Mon Sep 07 09:15:24 2009 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1Mke43-0005Wi-Sz for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2009 09:15:23 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mke42-0005Uj-56 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2009 09:15:22 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mke40-0005So-QG for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2009 09:15:21 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=46680 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Mke40-0005SP-H3 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2009 09:15:20 -0400 Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com ([72.14.220.154]:12434) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Mke40-0001aG-6K for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2009 09:15:20 -0400 Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id e21so619826fga.12 for ; Mon, 07 Sep 2009 06:15:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=mkKGWmMzRjzP830lWqaNgEzMaEcOF31esqqtqdhGlYY=; b=SgN3KTsoQgZHDTuIr15mppqSoTn1sDBW8dNzStEE8DK8gW80Kd0G8SyjYZb2hKWSU+ y+1q6wjb5Bg3jiDe3Ch8rFTmNqjgnZ8pd4bVKA8gXua2tzyiSATVVVFeiHxQrwfTn4u9 QJWkSL1i0SmW/pxa4EAmWhCILXxNazTqVFQvg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=Jj8t1+L9HcS+9SvelsG2fAFJlBwwXZgFOYeXO2RW3SSkzACTeZNWLmjpSBvVJB2/e1 8vRVxT17N0mYHVbOEHBcUtL5HzjB4jI6/oNq5CW1K4zxlrKHn0cMI9V1OwJ3ZFDThHbN kN1rNxd+bB9ivk/lpZRvbRFdqruvxdQhAdQ88= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.86.225.38 with SMTP id x38mr7775544fgg.59.1252329318945; Mon, 07 Sep 2009 06:15:18 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 15:15:18 +0200 Message-ID: From: Valentin Villenave To: Lilypond Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) Subject: Un article sur LilyPond et les licences libres X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Sep 2009 13:15:22 -0000 Bonjour tout le monde, Comme vous le savez, je ne d=C3=A9daigne pas un peu d'auto-pub de temps en temps ; voici un papier que j'ai r=C3=A9dig=C3=A9 pour le bulletin annuel d= e la F=C3=A9d=C3=A9ration Nationale des Associations de Parents d'=C3=89l=C3=A8v= es de Conservatoires, qui parle des probl=C3=A8mes li=C3=A9s au droit d'auteur et= =C3=A0 la diffusion de la culture. Cette publication est tr=C3=A8s largement diffus= =C3=A9e dans les =C3=A9coles de musique, donc c'est une bonne fa=C3=A7on de toucher= des publics d'ordinaires =C3=A9trangers au d=C3=A9bat sur le droit d'auteur et = le logiciel Libre. http://valentin.villenave.info/La-musique-Libre-c-est-maintenant Cordialement, Valentin From MAILER-DAEMON Mon Sep 07 10:30:03 2009 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1MkfEI-0008NB-Pi for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2009 10:30:02 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MkfEG-0008MF-Jq for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2009 10:30:00 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MkfEC-0008JD-7X for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2009 10:30:00 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=39350 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MkfEB-0008J3-U1 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2009 10:29:55 -0400 Received: from mail-yx0-f183.google.com ([209.85.210.183]:49937) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MkfEB-0006mA-LU for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2009 10:29:55 -0400 Received: by yxe13 with SMTP id 13so5390856yxe.14 for ; Mon, 07 Sep 2009 07:29:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=N+3GGGR6keBjgMIPzcx53vV5xnnbuEabrSTbgcXI7Hs=; b=OJgWUTFlO9QqSKiXH+GSAKYGwg58UXrPtsUTAMLJyr7uZI3pyhEWtzG4z/jkbJmMx7 e3+exmfZh+w+0MygVqH0L1BZ5vkkBXPirwi1YAla0M+G3nkF+MGWEnKSorUB7TeRg9dt VUu3KvXRnYwn0MXzRj0zIgquCgozPqrAWBukg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=gtU1Cgu+WYiqmEjbutPscB8eT3pT0vnBJrfYNOKCmv02/OizZPuEewgDa2TW2p/sni Lb/PfOESFL9/zRBWLhbPHDfV5dvcLEjbCTuX7mK2wNuBkoXRvnssvqVs77zJgfk21gEQ WclakrIRywOiRVP0hkj70vVh57hLnmeAVhS5Y= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.239.15 with SMTP id m15mr21280353ybh.336.1252333794598; Mon, 07 Sep 2009 07:29:54 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 16:29:54 +0200 Message-ID: From: Michel Villeneuve To: Valentin Villenave Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) Cc: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Subject: Re: Un article sur LilyPond et les licences libres X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Sep 2009 14:30:01 -0000 Le 7 septembre 2009 15:15, Valentin Villenave a =C3= =A9crit : > Bonjour tout le monde, > > Comme vous le savez, je ne d=C3=A9daigne pas un peu d'auto-pub de temps e= n > temps ; voici un papier que j'ai r=C3=A9dig=C3=A9 pour le bulletin annuel= de la > F=C3=A9d=C3=A9ration Nationale des Associations de Parents d'=C3=89l=C3= =A8ves de > Conservatoires, qui parle des probl=C3=A8mes li=C3=A9s au droit d'auteur = et =C3=A0 la > diffusion de la culture. Cette publication est tr=C3=A8s largement diffus= =C3=A9e > dans les =C3=A9coles de musique, donc c'est une bonne fa=C3=A7on de touch= er des > publics d'ordinaires =C3=A9trangers au d=C3=A9bat sur le droit d'auteur e= t le > logiciel Libre. > > http://valentin.villenave.info/La-musique-Libre-c-est-maintenant > > Cordialement, > Valentin G=C3=A9nial. Merci pour ces infos. Sinon : A quand une U.V. de 3=C2=B0 cycle lilypond ? Quel est le taux de p=C3=A9n=C3=A9tration r=C3=A9el de ce logiciel aupr=C3= =A8s des profs (je veux dire quelle ventilation entre : "c'est quoi =C3=A7a truc" et "oui je m'en sers quotidiennement"? Il y a-t-il de la r=C3=A9sistance de la part d'enseignants en MAO ou assimil=C3=A9s n'ayant connu que finale ou Sib=C3=A9lius ou autre solution propri=C3=A9taire ? Quid des profs de musique au lyc=C3=A9e (je me souviens de travaux en terminale sous sibelius, qui donnaient des r=C3=A9sultats catastrophiques ...) ? De mani=C3=A8re g=C3=A9n=C3=A9ral le corps enseignant en conservatoire est-= il r=C3=A9ceptif =C3=A0 la philosophie du LL et =C3=A0 Lilypond ? ou est-ce co= nsid=C3=A9r=C3=A9 comme un truc de geek inaccessible ? 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Oui. Une r=C3=A9sistance consid=C3=A9rable. > Quid des profs de musique au lyc=C3=A9e (je me souviens de travaux en > terminale sous sibelius, qui donnaient des r=C3=A9sultats catastrophiques > ...) ? Idem, sinon pire. > De mani=C3=A8re g=C3=A9n=C3=A9ral le corps enseignant en conservatoire es= t-il > r=C3=A9ceptif =C3=A0 la philosophie du LL et =C3=A0 Lilypond ? ou est-ce = consid=C3=A9r=C3=A9 > comme un truc de geek inaccessible ? Non, tr=C3=A8s peu r=C3=A9ceptif. C'est pourquoi je passe par la bande (par= ents d'=C3=A9l=C3=A8ves etc.) > Je soup=C3=A7onne une forte corr=C3=A9lation avec l'=C3=A2ge des enseigna= nts mais je > peux me tromper lourdement, ce n'est qu'un sentiment de l'ordre du > pr=C3=A9jug=C3=A9. Non, en fait c'est le contraire : les plus r=C3=A9sistants sont la g=C3=A9n=C3=A9ration 25-45 ans, qui ont l'habitude de se refiler des copies= de Finale, ont un achet=C3=A9 portable HP avec Vista pr=C3=A9install=C3=A9 et = sont parfaitement imperm=C3=A9ables =C3=A0 la notion de "choix" en informatique. Ceci pour mon pr=C3=A9jug=C3=A9 perso :-) Cordialement, Valentin From MAILER-DAEMON Mon Sep 07 11:46:01 2009 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1MkgPo-0002Nd-Rl for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2009 11:46:00 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MkgPn-0002NK-2p for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2009 11:45:59 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MkgPi-0002Mh-Gq for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2009 11:45:58 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=42904 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MkgPi-0002Me-B6 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2009 11:45:54 -0400 Received: from 216-139-236-80.aus.us.siteprotect.com ([216.139.236.80]:1106 helo=jim.nabble.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MkgPh-0008VR-TN for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2009 11:45:54 -0400 Received: from jim ([127.0.0.1]) by jim.nabble.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 7 Sep 2009 10:45:49 -0500 Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 10:45:49 -0500 (CDT) From: lasconic To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Message-ID: <1252338349121-3598048.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Nabble-From: lasconic@gmail.com X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Sep 2009 15:45:49.0168 (UTC) FILETIME=[45A6D700:01CA2FD2] X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Windows 2000 SP4, XP SP1+ Subject: Re: Un article sur LilyPond et les licences libres X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Sep 2009 15:45:59 -0000 Pour le cot=C3=A9 libre du logiciel, 100% OK... Photocopillage et tout ... Pareil... Pour le taux de p=C3=A9n=C3=A9tration de Lilypond, j'ai bien peur que ce so= it anecdotique... Malheureusement... Malgr=C3=A9 tous les efforts de documentation, Lilypond reste un language d= e description de page et je ne suis pas s=C3=BBr qu'au point de vue p=C3=A9da= gogique, il soit tr=C3=A8s facile/salutaire d'apprendre =C3=A0 la fois la musique et un= language. C'est pourquoi si un prof par exemple de secondaire me demandait mon avis pour un logicielpour cr=C3=A9er des partitions pour ces =C3=A9l=C3=A8ves je= l'orienterai vers un logiciel libre mais d'abord sur un WYSIWYG comme MuseScore et ensuite vers Lilypond.=20 La courbe d'apprentissage de MuseScore est plus courte et permet de se familiariser et de mettre en pratique des notions musicales assez rapidemen= t avec un r=C3=A9sultat imprim=C3=A9 valable m=C3=AAme si parfois moins bon q= ue Lilypond.=20 Lilypond reste un outil fantastique pour cr=C3=A9er des partitions magnifiq= ues. La mise en page automatique est un vrai r=C3=A9gal et il offre des possibil= it=C3=A9s que n'offre aucun autre programme. Mais je pense que pour un d=C3=A9butant = c'est mieux de voir ce qu'on =C3=A9crit ... Voire de l'entendre, ce que ne permet= pas le papier (au derni=C3=A8re nouvelle ;).=20 Je sais que certains utilisateurs de Lilypond, et parmi eux des compositeur= s pr=C3=A9f=C3=A8rent l'approche de Lilypond pour structurer leurs id=C3=A9es= et je peux le comprendre. Mais il s'agit de musiciens aguerris pas de jeunes gens en phas= e d'apprentissage de la musique.=20 http://twitter.com/davidsonpaulo/statuses/3784355127 Certains utilisateurs= =20 utilisent MuseScore en premier et Lilypond ensuite via l'export lilypond de MuseScore ou via musicXML2Ly.=20 Lasconic --=20 View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Un-article-sur-LilyPond-= et-les-licences-libres-tp3597326p3598048.html Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From MAILER-DAEMON Mon Sep 07 13:02:18 2009 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1Mkhbe-0006Ly-Hg for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2009 13:02:18 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mkhbc-0006Ky-CN for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2009 13:02:16 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mkhba-0006Jm-Nc for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2009 13:02:15 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=53595 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Mkhba-0006Ja-3l for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2009 13:02:14 -0400 Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com ([72.14.220.154]:58459) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MkhbZ-0004k6-GD for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2009 13:02:13 -0400 Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 22so1523462fge.12 for ; Mon, 07 Sep 2009 10:02:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=r+sRuD7s905lYyxUgjNJ5Soeo3w7wQt/kf5tWiEy9Hk=; b=JoJehHokhWn8sop7hiC1nDyCySjz7M/iHX//GGkqoVdA4yiYqc6m0Y+JjODis3Zr2H u2SCErFAJI4xIiZ60uegFX9rtLHESPLEdhrhFEpguki1on5TIHNXpViebOEQgd5dIvGn 3NFxszHVFgSpAUSpRhu9uLuaTTgmnRM+8wsPQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=tM3IbWgOrwPp/ysAEwkblx/wuhn5RDQ8Cm9vdjkfyECH6xoaNHrKFrLMg+5HnG55+r Fq0QFPAxD9tz6ySEE3SfLqalIveWjxwvAWwPLhzp3BI+NaMMM2D4SUnmTxcJUdNoq94S QLleMEmqbVJtMYBqMG1a9NeJa9RerJ4VZw2HI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.86.154.32 with SMTP id b32mr7795138fge.10.1252342931180; Mon, 07 Sep 2009 10:02:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1252338349121-3598048.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1252338349121-3598048.post@n2.nabble.com> Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 19:02:11 +0200 Message-ID: From: Valentin Villenave To: lasconic Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) Cc: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Subject: Re: Un article sur LilyPond et les licences libres X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Sep 2009 17:02:16 -0000 2009/9/7 lasconic : > Lilypond reste un outil fantastique pour cr=C3=A9er des partitions magnif= iques. > La mise en page automatique est un vrai r=C3=A9gal et il offre des possib= ilit=C3=A9s > que n'offre aucun autre programme. Mais je pense que pour un d=C3=A9butan= t c'est > mieux de voir ce qu'on =C3=A9crit ... Voire de l'entendre, ce que ne perm= et pas > le papier (au derni=C3=A8re nouvelle ;). C'est amusant, je pense *exactement* l'inverse. R=C3=A9diger du code LilyPond entra=C3=AEne une d=C3=A9marche de r=C3=A9fle= xion et de description de la musique extr=C3=AAmement int=C3=A9ressante aupr=C3=A8s de= s d=C3=A9butants (enfants comme adultes). C'est pour mes =C3=A9l=C3=A8ves (m= =C3=AAme jeunes, surtout jeunes) un moyen de s'approprier le langage musical d'une fa=C3=A7on diff=C3=A9rente et tr=C3=A8s compl=C3=A9mentaire de l'apprentiss= age de la musique, solf=C3=A8ge etc. > Je sais que certains utilisateurs de Lilypond, et parmi eux des composite= urs > pr=C3=A9f=C3=A8rent l'approche de Lilypond pour structurer leurs id=C3=A9= es et je peux le > comprendre. Mais il s'agit de musiciens aguerris pas de jeunes gens en ph= ase > d'apprentissage de la musique. > http://twitter.com/davidsonpaulo/statuses/3784355127 Certains utilisateur= s > utilisent MuseScore en premier et Lilypond ensuite via l'export lilypond = de > MuseScore ou via musicXML2Ly. Votre opinion m'am=C3=A8ne =C3=A0 penser que vous =C3=AAtes (historiquement= du moins) un utilisateur de logiciel graphique *avant* d'=C3=AAtre un utilisateur de LilyPond. J'exposais tout =C3=A0 l'heure qu'il y a =C3=A9norm=C3=A9ment de r=C3=A9sis= tances en conservatoire, et c'est pour cette raison pr=C3=A9cise. Les gens qui sont habitu=C3=A9s =C3=A0 un logiciel graphique ont =C3=A9norm=C3=A9ment de mal = =C3=A0 se faire =C3=A0 une interface textuelle, et quand bien m=C3=AAme ils y arrivent c'est en traduisant, dans leur t=C3=AAte, le code en =C3=A9l=C3=A9ments graphiques (= =C3=A7a a =C3=A9t=C3=A9 mon cas pendant longtemps). La chose est tr=C3=A8s diff=C3=A9rente dans le cas de quelqu'un qui d=C3=A9= couvre l'=C3=A9dition musicale par le biais du code. Pour ces personnes (quel que soit leur =C3=A2ge), le processus est =C3=A9vident et naturel, et leur mani= =C3=A8re d'appr=C3=A9hender l'objet musical est toute autre : il s'agit pour eux de "concevoir" plut=C3=B4t que de "voir". Aupr=C3=A8s de ce public-l=C3=A0, j'avoue n'avoir jamais rencontr=C3=A9 de r=C3=A9sistance, mais une curiosit=C3=A9 et un enthousiasme jamais d=C3=A9m= entis. Cordialement, Valentin. 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Subject: Re: Un article sur LilyPond et les licences libres X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Sep 2009 17:22:40 -0000 Le lundi 7 septembre 2009, Valentin Villenave a =C3=A9crit : > R=C3=A9diger du code LilyPond entra=C3=AEne une d=C3=A9marche de r=C3=A9f= lexion et de > description de la musique extr=C3=AAmement int=C3=A9ressante aupr=C3=A8s = des > d=C3=A9butants (enfants comme adultes). C'est pour mes =C3=A9l=C3=A8ves (= m=C3=AAme jeunes, > surtout jeunes) un moyen de s'approprier le langage musical d'une > fa=C3=A7on diff=C3=A9rente et tr=C3=A8s compl=C3=A9mentaire de l'apprenti= ssage de la > musique, solf=C3=A8ge etc. L=C3=A0 je suis extr=C3=AAmement int=C3=A9ress=C3=A9, mon fiston (11 ans) a= ime bien s'amuser avec=20 linux, et ne serait probablement pas contre retranscrire ses partitions mai= s=20 je ne sais comment l'y amener... D'autant plus que cette ann=C3=A9e il chan= ge=20 d'instrument et passe =C3=A0 la batterie. Et =C3=A7a je connais pas vraimen= t. Tant que=20 c'=C3=A9tait cornemuse ou diato j'assurais mais il va falloir maintenant qu= e je me=20 forme aux partitions pour percussions :-) Donc toute piste est la bienvenue pour en faire un lilypondeur convaincu. E= t=20 qui en convaincra d'autres comme je le connais :-) =2D-=20 Cordialement, Daniel Cartron =C2=AB Le rire n'est jamais gratuit : l'homme donne =C3=A0 pleurer mais pr= =C3=AAte =C3=A0 rire. =C2=BB Pierre Desproges - Fonds de tiroir From MAILER-DAEMON Mon Sep 07 13:34:44 2009 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1Mki72-0008AA-Bb for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2009 13:34:44 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mki6z-00089Q-Js for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2009 13:34:41 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mki6u-00087E-6E for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2009 13:34:40 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=48913 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Mki6u-00087B-1D for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2009 13:34:36 -0400 Received: from mail-fx0-f226.google.com ([209.85.220.226]:48192) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Mki6t-0001de-EC for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2009 13:34:35 -0400 Received: by fxm26 with SMTP id 26so2235968fxm.42 for ; Mon, 07 Sep 2009 10:34:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=aSoudiPAfbcoFjXgmIOLKz+i8ub0HpX44TGG0cwwZdk=; b=gsxjCmw1WgZgBNYz2iPVk/EphAJjHhD+w4K3yUFeOSh3sog7HgoGSvrAJBn5WjVw8L FIGZXOJDWiJ3bi8p2JsUO5fP0jcLuv8HcimMI0Q5bHACvfx9cStU94evCFVWEZFEJGgk obpWJZ72cti3IjKxpnm8Gt70eFo3cuHpsp2NE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=CiACfQsW2sl8vvcW/xo7MdU8PW9TMzqcqgtyvO9XpWDWdcor5s84Yw9HAo/izQ2ot+ XkaO7gSJilHOZy7Xf6mI+UpmZifA5H/M6YehiGggbs58kw+lM1z33WGWY1g7O65oN1qR r+L4LNge/c5LGRWqCbHGLwJ4PbqOAB9t6jE3E= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.23.66 with SMTP id q2mr12364044bkb.191.1252344872092; Mon, 07 Sep 2009 10:34:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <1252338349121-3598048.post@n2.nabble.com> From: Lasconic Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 19:34:12 +0200 Message-ID: <73451faf0909071034i59da6f08pb05251ddcd0dc43@mail.gmail.com> To: Valentin Villenave Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000325555eae3cc4d104730043d9 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) Cc: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Subject: Re: Un article sur LilyPond et les licences libres X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Sep 2009 17:34:42 -0000 --000325555eae3cc4d104730043d9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Je n'ai ni votre exp=E9rience p=E9dagogique, ni votre exp=E9rience musicale= . J'=E9coute donc votre opinion avec attention. Vous conviendrez toutefois que vous =EAtes un professeur de Lilypond particuli=E8rement comp=E9tent et donc je peux comprendre que vos =E9l=E8ves soient enthousiastes. J'ai d'abord utiliser le crayon et le papier, puis lilypond et ensuite des logiciels WYSIWYG et MuseScore. Je continue =E0 utiliser lilypond aujourd'hui pour les raisons que j'ai indiqu=E9, mais je pense vraiment que les approches sont compl=E9mentaires. Je ne pense pas que les gens soient habitu=E9s =E0 un logiciel graphique, m= ais plut=F4t au cot=E9 visuel d'une partition. Voir et =E9couter la musique que l'on =E9crit est la mani=E8re "ancestrale"= celle du papier et de l'instrument. Manipuler le cot=E9 graphique directement a donc un attrait certain. Lilypond offre la possibilit=E9 d'ecrire la musique diff=E9remment et c'est= tr=E8s bien, surtout avec un prof comp=E9tent =E0 cot=E9 de soi ou une envie suffisante pour fou= iller la doc ou poser des questions ici. Il fournit en plus une sortie magnifique et est extensible pour les plus courageux. MuseScore offre la possibilit=E9 (libre) d'=E9crire la musique directement = sur la feuille et de la jouer. C'est tr=E8s bien aussi et r=E9pond =E0 un besoin que la communaut=E9 du libre n'avait pas encore adress=E9. Je pense que ces deux logiciels libres ont leurs publics mais que ces publics sont loin d'=EAtre disjoints. Lasconic --000325555eae3cc4d104730043d9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Je n'ai ni votre exp=E9rience p=E9dagogique, ni votre exp=E9rience musi= cale. J'=E9coute donc votre opinion avec attention.
Vous conviendrez= toutefois que vous =EAtes un professeur de Lilypond particuli=E8rement com= p=E9tent
et donc je peux comprendre que vos =E9l=E8ves soient enthousiastes.

= J'ai d'abord utiliser le crayon et le papier, puis lilypond et ensu= ite des logiciels WYSIWYG et MuseScore.
Je continue =E0 utiliser lilypon= d aujourd'hui pour les raisons que j'ai indiqu=E9, mais je pense vr= aiment que les approches sont compl=E9mentaires.

Je ne pense pas que les gens soient habitu=E9s =E0 un logiciel graphiqu= e, mais plut=F4t au cot=E9 visuel d'une partition.
Voir et =E9couter= la musique que l'on =E9crit est la mani=E8re "ancestrale" ce= lle du papier et de l'instrument.
Manipuler le cot=E9 graphique directement a donc un attrait certain.
Lilypond offre la possibilit=E9 d'ecrire la musique diff=E9remment et = c'est tr=E8s bien, surtout
avec un prof comp=E9tent =E0 cot=E9 de s= oi ou une envie suffisante pour fouiller la doc ou poser des questions ici.=
Il fournit en plus une sortie magnifique et est extensible pour les plus co= urageux.

MuseScore offre la possibilit=E9 (libre) d'=E9crire la = musique directement sur la feuille et de la jouer. C'est tr=E8s bien au= ssi et r=E9pond
=E0 un besoin que la communaut=E9 du libre n'avait pas encore adress=E9= .
Je pense que ces deux logiciels libres ont leurs publics mais que ces = publics sont loin d'=EAtre disjoints.


Lasconic


--000325555eae3cc4d104730043d9-- From MAILER-DAEMON Mon Sep 07 13:36:41 2009 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1Mki8u-0000PX-TI for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2009 13:36:40 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mki8s-0000PR-6S for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2009 13:36:38 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mki8q-0000PF-Pd for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2009 13:36:36 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=48947 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Mki8q-0000PC-Ka for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2009 13:36:36 -0400 Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com ([72.14.220.155]:10319) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Mki8q-0001wg-5V for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2009 13:36:36 -0400 Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 22so1529836fge.12 for ; Mon, 07 Sep 2009 10:36:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=GiYeLj/7uH6V2Flv/kcm0uJGzJiOund4yODjRb2icrc=; b=NT6YTa02aLu3R6EVfI+AXMyfBbiihMcH8k7s5TY7my40/4xTYPoEaUmx46MYvjU5Aa fSWTZJjSVGeMXu1Szr4C1kUghWrh8n7WeWCjojwGXjJMpGARII8FuRqit8siaxnaOwHf f5tG4gS3modTb3t5oupSD1t0fTHnNWGahSWXQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=b9I1Dhalm/j1M50QNHo8WAc0PXbh/0Lmeag8yp4ewv41P3cg8u33adUVyLb/chtnjC H0g10Lmo5BTeS1qBY31njpagl6afAx1AN5485ZIYnGaJBUqsab9mJEzMtl4wEYPyz0Rk QJZCyhm95lOTNiq+8mscAzi3jfljVN9Q1bwFg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.86.254.17 with SMTP id b17mr7862910fgi.65.1252344994049; Mon, 07 Sep 2009 10:36:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <200909071922.39028.daniel@cartron.org> References: <1252338349121-3598048.post@n2.nabble.com> <200909071922.39028.daniel@cartron.org> Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 19:36:32 +0200 Message-ID: From: Valentin Villenave To: Daniel Cartron Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) Cc: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Subject: Re: Un article sur LilyPond et les licences libres X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Sep 2009 17:36:38 -0000 2009/9/7 Daniel Cartron : > > Donc toute piste est la bienvenue pour en faire un lilypondeur convaincu.= Et > qui en convaincra d'autres comme je le connais :-) Ma seule piste serait : essayer de lui faire LilyPonder une musique qu'il conna=C3=AEt bien, et chanter en =C3=A9crivant le nom des notes -- ma= is =C3=A7a ne marche pas pour tout le monde ;-) Valentin From MAILER-DAEMON Mon Sep 07 13:48:33 2009 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1MkiKP-0003U8-2X for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2009 13:48:33 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MkiKL-0003Sv-5I for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2009 13:48:30 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MkiKG-0003RZ-HQ for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2009 13:48:28 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=51894 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MkiKG-0003RW-CM for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2009 13:48:24 -0400 Received: from smtp20.orange.fr ([80.12.242.26]:36186) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MkiKF-0004N2-Rm for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2009 13:48:24 -0400 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2018.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 322FD2000079; Mon, 7 Sep 2009 19:48:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2018.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 226F92000074; Mon, 7 Sep 2009 19:48:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.96] (ALagny-153-1-42-159.w86-212.abo.wanadoo.fr [86.212.189.159]) by mwinf2018.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id BDA9D2000396; Mon, 7 Sep 2009 19:48:20 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20090907174820776.BDA9D2000396@mwinf2018.orange.fr Message-ID: <4AA54758.2000203@cathemline.org> Date: Mon, 07 Sep 2009 19:48:08 +0200 From: Martial User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Valentin Villenave References: <1252338349121-3598048.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. Cc: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org, lasconic Subject: Re: Un article sur LilyPond et les licences libres X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Sep 2009 17:48:31 -0000 Bonjour > Les gens qui sont habitu=C3=A9s =C3=A0 un logiciel graphique ont =C3=A9= norm=C3=A9ment de > mal =C3=A0 se faire =C3=A0 une interface textuelle, ... > La chose est tr=C3=A8s diff=C3=A9rente dans le cas de quelqu'un qui d=C3= =A9couvre=20 > l'=C3=A9dition musicale par le biais du code. .../... il s'agit pour eu= x > de "concevoir" plut=C3=B4t que de "voir". Paradoxalement on peut transposer pour l'=C5=93il: la m=C3=AAme difficult=C3=A9 est rencontr=C3=A9e en 3D avec le logiciel P= ov-Ray=20 (http://povray.org) qui est un descripteur de sc=C3=A8nes. Les Utilisate= urs=20 qui commence avec une interface o=C3=B9 l'on voit ce que l'ont fait ont=20 =C3=A9norm=C3=A9ment de mal =C3=A0 imaginer un volume en code. Exemple d'une sph=C3=A8re http://users.skynet.be/bs936509/povfr/objets/obj-solide-sphere.htm Pub ( vieilles sc=C3=A8nes tout en code ) O=C3=B9 pousse les guitares ? http://cathemline.org/povcheri/pov-images/guitare.jpg La chambre de la guitare http://cathemline.org/povcheri/pov-images/arbre_guitare.jpg Cordialement, --=20 Martial From MAILER-DAEMON Mon Sep 07 13:53:47 2009 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1MkiPT-0001ji-Cu for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2009 13:53:47 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MkiPR-0001f3-Lx for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2009 13:53:45 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MkiPN-0001Uv-Qe for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2009 13:53:45 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=35657 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MkiPN-0001UT-Ly for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2009 13:53:41 -0400 Received: from smtp2e.orange.fr ([80.12.242.111]:8499) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MkiPN-0005RY-6a for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2009 13:53:41 -0400 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2e28.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 3102A700008E for ; Mon, 7 Sep 2009 19:53:40 +0200 (CEST) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2e28.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 24594700008F for ; Mon, 7 Sep 2009 19:53:40 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost.localnet (Mix-Lyon-301-3-79.w193-250.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.250.16.79]) by mwinf2e28.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id C0DBF700008E for ; Mon, 7 Sep 2009 19:53:39 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20090907175339790.C0DBF700008E@mwinf2e28.orange.fr From: Daniel Cartron To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 19:53:50 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.4 (Linux/2.6.29.1-desktop-4mnb; KDE/4.2.2; i686; ; ) References: <200909071922.39028.daniel@cartron.org> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200909071953.50729.daniel@cartron.org> X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. Subject: Re: Un article sur LilyPond et les licences libres X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Sep 2009 17:53:46 -0000 Le lundi 7 septembre 2009, Valentin Villenave a =C3=A9crit : > 2009/9/7 Daniel Cartron : > > Donc toute piste est la bienvenue pour en faire un lilypondeur convainc= u. > > Et qui en convaincra d'autres comme je le connais :-) > > Ma seule piste serait : essayer de lui faire LilyPonder une musique > qu'il conna=C3=AEt bien, et chanter en =C3=A9crivant le nom des notes -- = mais =C3=A7a > ne marche pas pour tout le monde ;-) Arff avec lui =C3=A7a marchera pas, il a trop d'oreille (d=C3=BB =C3=A0 sa = formation initiale=20 musique trad s=C3=BBrement), pendant ses cours de sax il faisait juste semb= lant de=20 lire la partition, mais en fait il l'avait m=C3=A9moris=C3=A9e apr=C3=A8s u= ne seule =C3=A9coute... C'est pas qu'il aime pas le solf=C3=A8ge, simplement ses oreilles sont plus= efficaces=20 que ses yeux... =2D-=20 Cordialement, Daniel Cartron =C2=AB Pour =C3=AAtre heureux avec les =C3=AAtres, il ne faut leur demander= que ce qu'ils peuvent donner. =C2=BB Tristan Bernard From MAILER-DAEMON Mon Sep 07 13:58:05 2009 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1MkiTd-0005Wh-70 for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2009 13:58:05 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MkiTa-0005UO-Sq for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2009 13:58:02 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MkiTZ-0005T9-MZ for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2009 13:58:02 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=57406 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MkiTZ-0005T3-Iq for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2009 13:58:01 -0400 Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com ([72.14.220.156]:40514) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MkiTZ-0006KO-0V for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2009 13:58:01 -0400 Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id e21so677152fga.12 for ; Mon, 07 Sep 2009 10:57:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=3VqvRpXc1oG0G0KzecP99vItDyFbG168hL1MwvM9wRo=; b=IrMYJ49+EMIB+1DLePDk7LW9lvgfBnxFXS1S700NbW+SvgskkWjfqqPlf3wGsJRF6v v4RLYjS2/Cq/04elNqhPoxzlih8MfenVJ+jnjbmmJRKsa27Y5j1mDmpwPZBL0QRCtyxt niCrnqWNkQ+mUW+PecL98IsebUlax8EmwKAaQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=gPLsnN0RjJ5YLGR04V9VEXRLBgiN7GF14YALtLMycnNmqyUjAQDFaqyabe0jWiwi7V cSkSmKkTyQDbaGWISgFKqwg4G3XM2WPmH9Wumug6z1QQ0XEW1I++I8YEPJ4G1vDW4bn2 CGuQD+GNPwe6bWp0N5B+HWhvsNRHU4BKvEh2w= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.86.217.8 with SMTP id p8mr7800289fgg.73.1252346278166; Mon, 07 Sep 2009 10:57:58 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <73451faf0909071034i59da6f08pb05251ddcd0dc43@mail.gmail.com> References: <1252338349121-3598048.post@n2.nabble.com> <73451faf0909071034i59da6f08pb05251ddcd0dc43@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 19:57:58 +0200 Message-ID: From: Valentin Villenave To: Lasconic Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) Cc: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Subject: Re: Un article sur LilyPond et les licences libres X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Sep 2009 17:58:03 -0000 2009/9/7 Lasconic : > Je n'ai ni votre exp=C3=A9rience p=C3=A9dagogique, ni votre exp=C3=A9rien= ce musicale. > J'=C3=A9coute donc votre opinion avec attention. Je ne me pr=C3=A9vaux d'aucune v=C3=A9rit=C3=A9 d=C3=A9finitive :-) > Vous conviendrez toutefois que vous =C3=AAtes un professeur de Lilypond > particuli=C3=A8rement comp=C3=A9tent > et donc je peux comprendre que vos =C3=A9l=C3=A8ves soient enthousiastes. Lors d'une s=C3=A9ance d'initiation, l'enthousiasme n'appara=C3=AEt que lor= sque le premier fichier PDF appara=C3=AEt et qu'ils l'ouvrent pour voir la musique qu'ils ont con=C3=A7ue "en pens=C3=A9e" ou en mots, se r=C3=A9alise= r sous forme d'une "vraie" partition comme ce =C3=A0 quoi ils sont habitu=C3=A9s. > J'ai d'abord utiliser le crayon et le papier, puis lilypond et ensuite de= s > logiciels WYSIWYG et MuseScore. Au temps pour moi. Comme quoi il n'existe pas de "profil type". > Je continue =C3=A0 utiliser lilypond aujourd'hui pour les raisons que j'a= i > indiqu=C3=A9, mais je pense vraiment que les approches sont compl=C3=A9me= ntaires. > > Je ne pense pas que les gens soient habitu=C3=A9s =C3=A0 un logiciel grap= hique, mais > plut=C3=B4t au cot=C3=A9 visuel d'une partition. J'approuve. > Voir et =C3=A9couter la musique que l'on =C3=A9crit est la mani=C3=A8re "= ancestrale" celle > du papier et de l'instrument. J'approuve moins. Je ne sais ce que vous entendez exactement par l=C3=A0, mais pour moi le plus naturel (ou "ancestral") est plut=C3=B4t d'=C3=A9cout= er puis de chercher =C3=A0 reproduire ce qu'on a entendu, par le chant, la percussion, ou un instrument. =C3=80 mon avis le fait de "voir" du papier se situe =C3=A0 un niveau diff=C3=A9rent, et c'est toute la difficult=C3=A9= (et l=C3=A0 o=C3=B9 LilyPond peut aider) de faire le lien entre ces deux plans. > Manipuler le cot=C3=A9 graphique directement a donc un attrait certain. ... Et c'est l=C3=A0 que je cesse de vous rejoindre. Manipuler le c=C3=B4t= =C3=A9 graphique (en particulier sur un =C3=A9cran) est une activit=C3=A9 essentiellement, purement, graphique. Que cela ait un attrait, je n'en disconviens pas, mais pas plus qu'un logiciel de dessin. Or ce que nous cherchons est =C3=A0 s'approprier le langage musical. Dans ce cadre LilyPond, agissant comme un traducteur, permet de reconstituer exactement la d=C3=A9marche *inverse* de l'aprentissage classique (d=C3=A9chiffrage d'une partition, suivre avec son doigt sur le papier, etc) : au lieu de partir de l'=C3=A9crit et de reconstituer des notes (et =C3=A9ventuellement, mais beaucoup plus tard, un sens musical), on part de l'_essentiel_ : le nom des notes. Et une fois que les =C3=A9l=C3=A8ves ont compris qu'il fallait parler =C3=A0 LilyPond dans une = "langue" sp=C3=A9ciale, l'attrait de la manoeuvre r=C3=A9side dans le fait qu'appren= dre la langue de LilyPond, c'est aussi apprendre le langage musical : noms de notes, compter les temps pour faire tenir le bon rythme dans la mesure, etc. > Lilypond offre la possibilit=C3=A9 d'ecrire la musique diff=C3=A9remment = et c'est tr=C3=A8s > bien, surtout > avec un prof comp=C3=A9tent =C3=A0 cot=C3=A9 de soi ou une envie suffisan= te pour fouiller > la doc ou poser des questions ici. > Il fournit en plus une sortie magnifique et est extensible pour les plus > courageux. Oui. Non seulement c'est un r=C3=A9sultat magnifique pour qui est habitu=C3= =A9 aux partitions faites =C3=A0 la va-vite, mais m=C3=AAme pour quelqu'un peu familier cette partition a un charme certain : c'est qu'on l'a cr=C3=A9=C3= =A9e *soi-m=C3=AAme*, et qu'elle ne contient pas une note, pas un signe que l'on ait pas indiqu=C3=A9 soi-m=C3=AAme. L=C3=A0 o=C3=B9 le logiciel graphique d=C3=A9mystifie le processus, LilyPon= d proc=C3=A8de par magie, le code source =C3=A9tant la formule magique =C3=A0 formuler de = fa=C3=A7on correcte pour obtenir le r=C3=A9sultat. (D=C3=A9cid=C3=A9ment, ce sujet me rend lyrique.) > MuseScore offre la possibilit=C3=A9 (libre) d'=C3=A9crire la musique dire= ctement sur > la feuille et de la jouer. C'est tr=C3=A8s bien aussi et r=C3=A9pond > =C3=A0 un besoin que la communaut=C3=A9 du libre n'avait pas encore adres= s=C3=A9. Il en existe d'autres dans le monde Libre : Jazz++ depuis longtemps, NoteEdit puis Canorus, RoseGarden (trr=C3=A8s laid, nous sommes d'accord)... Et le retour incroyable de Denemo, que tout le monde croyait (l=C3=A9gitimement) mort et enterr=C3=A9. > Je pense que ces deux logiciels libres ont leurs publics mais que ces > publics sont loin d'=C3=AAtre disjoints. Il est certain que Lilypond apporte un paradigme de repr=C3=A9sentation de la musique compl=C3=A8tement nouveau ; faute d'exp=C3=A9riences =C3=A0 gran= de =C3=A9chelle il est encore trop t=C3=B4t pour distinguer ses avantages dans le domaine =C3=A9ducatif, mais les balbutiements (que ce soit mes stages ou la classe de Francisco Vila en Espagne) sont en tout cas prometteurs. Cordialement, Valentin From MAILER-DAEMON Mon Sep 07 14:01:15 2009 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1MkiWh-00074n-2i for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2009 14:01:15 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MkiWf-00073a-BR for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2009 14:01:13 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MkiWe-000730-Jn for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2009 14:01:12 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=57466 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MkiWe-00072t-GS for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2009 14:01:12 -0400 Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com ([72.14.220.158]:35132) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MkiWd-00077I-Vl for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2009 14:01:12 -0400 Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id e21so677655fga.12 for ; Mon, 07 Sep 2009 11:01:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=qsTLC0Qq2M5eBMREcUkU6DaCjKkQuIErm7g+8B3eSc4=; b=PAKkL/vjajAB8wEKM3nrnTukgKYUvz+jo+csYcmJCAwWVt2v0fMhnBoxSt9jW1Hx3r ugZBzrF2tT2KumMfRUJzKLOjK5okBOb1yUP0XD2eKVZlrcn4e768gZzjovt0v0qlZZOR eMSpDq4jh2cv0e8Q0A7PWE8wI0vGSTJtTZviQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=lm5NnixeTGjXCZNF19sf5UREWb1jYjmBcANJrwuzb+oahS1vjTwKHhOh316L1J6w91 Y8PCSFN9GtzkHrHChqOw5irBrEICCw0bFcD8Sk/ApfuZp4hMbD75TwnG0KLzgzX6Uxi5 waOLywtfPAOlA/0+CYErqLfHzTYFWY5SVjiPA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.86.209.23 with SMTP id h23mr7867130fgg.22.1252346471017; Mon, 07 Sep 2009 11:01:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4AA54758.2000203@cathemline.org> References: <1252338349121-3598048.post@n2.nabble.com> <4AA54758.2000203@cathemline.org> Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 20:01:10 +0200 Message-ID: From: Valentin Villenave To: Martial Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) Cc: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org, lasconic Subject: Re: Un article sur LilyPond et les licences libres X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Sep 2009 18:01:13 -0000 2009/9/7 Martial : > Paradoxalement on peut transposer pour l'=C5=93il: > la m=C3=AAme difficult=C3=A9 est rencontr=C3=A9e en 3D avec le logiciel P= ov-Ray > (http://povray.org) =C2=A0qui est un descripteur de sc=C3=A8nes. Les Util= isateurs qui > commence avec une interface o=C3=B9 l'on voit ce que l'ont fait ont =C3= =A9norm=C3=A9ment de > mal =C3=A0 imaginer un volume en code. C'est *exactement* comparable. Et je comprends tout =C3=A0 fait la logique qui sous-tend pov. (Sauf que l'id=C3=A9e de m=C3=A9langer des images au cod= e pour les textures me rend malade, mais c'est un autre probl=C3=A8me.) On pourrait aussi citer les glyphes de LilyPond, qui sont tous enti=C3=A8rement cod=C3=A9s =C3=A0 la main en Metafont. Valentin From MAILER-DAEMON Mon Sep 07 14:59:49 2009 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1MkjRN-0004Im-9K for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2009 14:59:49 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MkjRL-0004HF-OO for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2009 14:59:47 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MkjRJ-0004Gg-5d for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2009 14:59:45 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=49585 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MkjRJ-0004Gd-3Q for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2009 14:59:45 -0400 Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com ([72.14.220.152]:25967) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MkjRI-00018E-1d for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2009 14:59:44 -0400 Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 22so1544241fge.12 for ; Mon, 07 Sep 2009 11:59:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=yKwNR3pazYrtJ9icO4t7qMuSwFav9Qk4ke00lBEktbU=; b=fphuQ5J92sq7BjV8expnOLCGdDm8KJ98KGOjs1erGPWxQkJ7oLcQjSgp4HnYOMqpoz hfp+tFQj/FGswtnogrKhmZ5Ud24kxGZG/jde+AnMmagID8TSvx1yJfqxLMZB7YfrmbaL pdBrsYKgSOCtLZhsTkIpxkr6VN1OTNxdvPTIU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Y9AN93ROVwXqQGmU/FDZ3d89GPA5UVVnKWWWv6aXEbS+mb15qFMprAD+6hv+/Vbht+ CKpTi0XEdhgEVBX3ESsDR8YX3qUglvbvOHZofvchKRTyt4aMl0WLXUv669W/fMx7FyoZ 6I1ztzTHgB64H3CS7GnTowDZHY6yY+D5gr4aE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.86.251.6 with SMTP id y6mr7867482fgh.24.1252349982415; Mon, 07 Sep 2009 11:59:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4AA39B3F.4000501@cathemline.org> References: <4AA39B3F.4000501@cathemline.org> Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 20:59:42 +0200 Message-ID: From: Valentin Villenave To: Martial Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) Cc: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Subject: =?utf-8?q?Re=3A_LSR_demi_barr=C3=A9_pour_guitare?= X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Sep 2009 18:59:47 -0000 2009/9/6 Martial : > N'=C3=A9tant pas tr=C3=A8s dou=C3=A9 en anglais, s'il y a des fautes de l= angage une > correction avant validation ne me vexera pas ! > > http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?u=3D1&id=3D632 Corrig=C3=A9 et approuv=C3=A9 :) Valentin From MAILER-DAEMON Mon Sep 07 16:27:05 2009 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1Mkknp-00058g-MV for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2009 16:27:05 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mkknn-00057h-EO for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2009 16:27:03 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mkkni-00055n-IC for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2009 16:27:02 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=50678 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Mkkni-00055g-En for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2009 16:26:58 -0400 Received: from smtp28.orange.fr ([80.12.242.101]:55916) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Mkknf-0007Kn-8x for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2009 16:26:56 -0400 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2822.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 6C37D700009A; Mon, 7 Sep 2009 22:26:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2822.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 5FF14700009E; Mon, 7 Sep 2009 22:26:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.96] (ALagny-153-1-42-159.w86-212.abo.wanadoo.fr [86.212.189.159]) by mwinf2822.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 2390B700009A; Mon, 7 Sep 2009 22:26:52 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20090907202652145.2390B700009A@mwinf2822.orange.fr Message-ID: <4AA56C7F.2090306@cathemline.org> Date: Mon, 07 Sep 2009 22:26:39 +0200 From: Martial User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Valentin Villenave References: <4AA39B3F.4000501@cathemline.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. Cc: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Subject: Re: LSR demi =?utf-8?q?barr=C3=A9_pour_guitare?= X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Sep 2009 20:27:03 -0000 >> une correction avant validation ne me vexera pas ! >> http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?u=3D1&id=3D632 > Corrig=C3=A9 et approuv=C3=A9 :) Youpi et merci --=20 Martial From MAILER-DAEMON Tue Sep 08 06:01:54 2009 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1MkxWM-0001oq-Ga for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2009 06:01:54 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MkxCb-00018Z-4W for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2009 05:41:29 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MkxCV-00015b-EK for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2009 05:41:27 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=37319 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MkxCV-00015U-9p for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2009 05:41:23 -0400 Received: from mail-yw0-f184.google.com ([209.85.211.184]:46879) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MkxCU-0004ea-UZ for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2009 05:41:23 -0400 Received: by ywh14 with SMTP id 14so5633541ywh.24 for ; Tue, 08 Sep 2009 02:41:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=pCONF94OKQAXCVuiLEfCeQvlPQfi1d2sGLjVYkG4dao=; b=GwAjelL5Nzoz9rDELfiZQ6/WSiefk6kFjMIgScXzwrRGUDaG4an7cIuj6WSfrHs5wL Kr3sBJPWCbQcP0jqTN0H7k4GQC6cvO+VIx8t84vZ6JhS27sseg8UvKD7RCWDBs3e5PTO /bjatmO6fqS7Ex1dbcu03ccqETk1JQju15z8Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=qOH4wIGTVDi3Np/ApsPSnywfMzqBQPCKIxadAjzkQZ7fqPDbCCsZ0ugb5BgLy9OoQQ Mkqn3Y/3rj4FatNf5WVzKSF9YvqsG2+5iMfi/3RAmC97bTU4T5tYcP/TClFSK/YzIZPJ ehnBWsPYhliGmWeTRoJhuISsNnO0R6tHNp87c= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.151.5.8 with SMTP id h8mr25731060ybi.10.1252402881232; Tue, 08 Sep 2009 02:41:21 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 11:41:19 +0200 Message-ID: <823a22600909080241n5fd31f99v2da984819ce269ff@mail.gmail.com> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean_Gautier=2DBarill=E9?= To: LilyPond Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd24086da493004730dc443 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 08 Sep 2009 06:01:52 -0400 Subject: Police des Titres X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2009 09:41:29 -0000 --000e0cd24086da493004730dc443 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bonjour =E0 tous, Je cherche la changer la police par d=E9faut pour le titre principal, et =E9ventuellement pour tout le titrage, mais je ne trouve pas la solution da= ns le tutoriel; est-ce que quelqu' un peut me d=E9panner, avec mes remerciements. JEAN --000e0cd24086da493004730dc443 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bonjour =E0 tous,
Je cherche la changer la police par d=E9faut pour le t= itre principal, et =E9ventuellement pour tout le titrage, mais je ne trouve= pas la solution dans le tutoriel;
est-ce que quelqu' un peut me d= =E9panner, avec mes remerciements.
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--000e0cd24086da493004730dc443-- From MAILER-DAEMON Tue Sep 08 06:15:42 2009 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1Mkxji-0008EZ-C6 for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2009 06:15:42 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mkxjg-0008E6-NR for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2009 06:15:40 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mkxjg-0008Dt-6y for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2009 06:15:40 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=46686 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Mkxjf-0008Dq-V6 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2009 06:15:40 -0400 Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com ([72.14.220.153]:62795) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Mkxje-0006uB-Az for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2009 06:15:38 -0400 Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 22so1664952fge.12 for ; Tue, 08 Sep 2009 03:15:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Dq4ifxP8tFTNKsq70RKRLdPooASl554aH174UnmBiQw=; b=jIKnznkcRZCIG4V6OHt++9lTDNM5smkV/knEHO+h3e5QWIXPNlTJYd4NxRhGODpZ+N bnrlzyKmGbPG3C4iAhhJwYA0p9J0MEByQ3grgPxuQgJNrkco6Z+C72xByOd0Y+rBhlCB S0t+WfXjllHu2SNJLSZ51QI7qqi2yFmsw/9lo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ue8PaN/LBIAk9pstNlcPH/zaz4JSwR3Uj8Q1ZCeJLIwjQ52sIq0araoVNCKY1diqbw bLskTZDTaV4rnjL4UPKJaGyb1no8oCr+veZSMZiuCZdALROJmHwOaHI+TQVCzPet1qWY 1jsuVzJdqTczJCQkUspwxq0KfO90ni7xEN+2o= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.86.220.9 with SMTP id s9mr8139161fgg.40.1252404933777; Tue, 08 Sep 2009 03:15:33 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <823a22600909080241n5fd31f99v2da984819ce269ff@mail.gmail.com> References: <823a22600909080241n5fd31f99v2da984819ce269ff@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 12:15:33 +0200 Message-ID: From: Valentin Villenave To: =?UTF-8?Q?Jean_Gautier=2DBarill=C3=A9?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) Cc: LilyPond Subject: Re: Police des Titres X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2009 10:15:41 -0000 2009/9/8 Jean Gautier-Barill=C3=A9 : > Je cherche la changer la police par d=C3=A9faut pour le titre principal, = et > =C3=A9ventuellement pour tout le titrage, mais je ne trouve pas la soluti= on dans > le tutoriel; > est-ce que quelqu' un peut me d=C3=A9panner, avec mes remerciements. http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/user/lilypond/Fonts.fr.html Le plus simple est d'utiliser un \markup pour vos titres. Vous pouvez aussi l'appliquer =C3=A0 tous les textes de la partition avec : \layout { \context { \Score \override TextScript #''font-name =3D #"Votre_police" } } Cependant cela s'appliquera =C3=A0 toutes les indications textuelles d'expressivit=C3=A9 etc. (c'est donc peu recommand=C3=A9). Cordialement, V. Villenave. From MAILER-DAEMON Tue Sep 08 06:24:05 2009 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1Mkxrp-0004Da-B8 for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2009 06:24:05 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mkxrn-0004BH-DO for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2009 06:24:03 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mkxrh-00044o-Od for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2009 06:24:02 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=54195 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Mkxrh-00044c-Hr for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2009 06:23:57 -0400 Received: from ohno.evry.inra.fr ([193.51.165.6]:36453) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Mkxrg-0000Zo-Qd for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2009 06:23:57 -0400 Received: from [193.51.165.35] (morgan.bureautique.evry.inra.fr [193.51.165.35]) by ohno.evry.inra.fr (/8.13.4) with ESMTP id n88ANiS5012653; Tue, 8 Sep 2009 12:23:45 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4AA630B1.3090407@laposte.net> Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2009 12:23:45 +0200 From: Cile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean_Gautier-Barill=E9?= References: <823a22600909080241n5fd31f99v2da984819ce269ff@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <823a22600909080241n5fd31f99v2da984819ce269ff@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Greylist: Sender DNS name whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.6 (ohno.evry.inra.fr [193.51.165.6]); Tue, 08 Sep 2009 12:23:47 +0200 (CEST) X-Miltered: at ohno with ID 4AA630B0.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.2 at ohno X-Virus-Status: Clean X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 9 Cc: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Subject: Re: Police des Titres X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2009 10:24:03 -0000 Bonjour, Je n'ai pas mes sources sous la main en ce moment, tu peux chercher par=20 ici : Pour g=E9rer les markups : http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond/New-markup-comm= and-definition#New-markup-command-definition Pour le style/ la police : http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond/Font#Font http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond/Fonts#Fonts + tout le chapitre 1.8 en g=E9n=E9ral Le titre est par d=E9faut en bold, tu auras besoin de "medium" pour=20 enlever =E7a, si tu n'en veux pas bien s=FBr. Et enfin pour appliquer tout cela aux titres : http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond/Custom-titles#C= ustom-titles C=E9cile Le 08/09/2009 11:41, Jean Gautier-Barill=E9 a =E9crit : > Bonjour =E0 tous, > Je cherche la changer la police par d=E9faut pour le titre principal, e= t=20 > =E9ventuellement pour tout le titrage, mais je ne trouve pas la solutio= n=20 > dans le tutoriel; > est-ce que quelqu' un peut me d=E9panner, avec mes remerciements. > JEAN > -----------------------------------------------------------------------= - > > _______________________________________________ > liste de diffusion lilypond-user-fr > lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user-fr > =20 From MAILER-DAEMON Tue Sep 08 06:43:56 2009 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1MkyB2-00086Y-8H for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2009 06:43:56 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MkyB0-00085e-4r for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2009 06:43:54 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MkyAv-0007z9-84 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2009 06:43:53 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=58121 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MkyAv-0007z2-1Z for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2009 06:43:49 -0400 Received: from smtp2b.orange.fr ([80.12.242.146]:6173) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MkyAs-0005HT-B9 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2009 06:43:46 -0400 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2b23.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id C86F57000078 for ; Tue, 8 Sep 2009 12:43:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2b23.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id BC6647000079 for ; Tue, 8 Sep 2009 12:43:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost.localnet (Mix-Lyon-301-1-70.w193-250.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.250.5.70]) by mwinf2b23.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id AD4B07000078 for ; Tue, 8 Sep 2009 12:43:39 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20090908104339709.AD4B07000078@mwinf2b23.orange.fr From: Daniel Cartron To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 12:43:39 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.4 (Linux/2.6.29.1-desktop-4mnb; KDE/4.2.2; i686; ; ) References: <823a22600909080241n5fd31f99v2da984819ce269ff@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <823a22600909080241n5fd31f99v2da984819ce269ff@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary-00=_cVjpKKALI6/87lm" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200909081243.40447.daniel@cartron.org> X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. Subject: Re: Police des Titres X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2009 10:43:54 -0000 --Boundary-00=_cVjpKKALI6/87lm Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Le mardi 8 septembre 2009, Jean Gautier-Barill=C3=A9 a =C3=A9crit : > Je cherche la changer la police par d=C3=A9faut pour le titre principal, = et > =C3=A9ventuellement pour tout le titrage, mais je ne trouve pas la soluti= on dans > le tutoriel; http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond/Fonts.fr.html est int=C3=A9ressant aussi pour changer de fa=C3=A7on globale les polices. = C'est ce que=20 j'utilise. Faut juste ne pas oublier le myStaffSize en d=C3=A9but du bloc p= aper,=20 variable que l'on peut d'ailleurs nommer comme on veut du moment=20 que c'est le mm nom dans define fonts.=20 =2D-=20 Cordialement, Daniel Cartron =C2=AB Les Fran=C3=A7ais croient qu'ils parlent fran=C3=A7ais parce qu'ils = ne parlent aucune langue =C3=A9trang=C3=A8re. =C2=BB Tristan Bernard --Boundary-00=_cVjpKKALI6/87lm Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable p, li { white-space: pre-wrap; }Le mardi 8 septembre 2009, Jean Gautier-Barill=C3=A9 a =C3=A9= crit :
> Je cherche la changer la police par d=C3=A9faut pour le titre principa= l, et
> =C3=A9ventuellement pour tout le titrage, mais je ne trouve pas la sol= ution dans
> le tutoriel;


http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lily= pond/Fonts.fr.html


est int=C3=A9ressant aussi pour changer de fa=C3=A7on= globale les polices. C'est ce que j'utilise. Faut juste ne pas oublier le = myStaffSize en d=C3=A9b= ut du bloc paper, variable que l'on peut d'ailleurs nommer comme on veut du= moment que c'est le mm nom dans define fonts.


--
Cordialement, Daniel Cartron
=C2=AB=C2=A0Les Fran=C3=A7ais croient qu'ils parlent fran=C3=A7ais parce qu= 'ils ne parlent aucune
langue =C3=A9trang=C3=A8re. =C2=BB
Tristan Bernard


--Boundary-00=_cVjpKKALI6/87lm-- From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Sep 10 02:32:14 2009 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1MldCY-0006i5-E0 for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Sep 2009 02:32:14 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MldCW-0006fI-Of for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Sep 2009 02:32:12 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MldCS-0006ZW-FU for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Sep 2009 02:32:12 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=58870 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MldCS-0006ZT-9S for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Sep 2009 02:32:08 -0400 Received: from mx20.gnu.org ([199.232.41.8]:3931) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MldCR-0007ZW-NP for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Sep 2009 02:32:07 -0400 Received: from mail-bw0-f220.google.com ([209.85.218.220]) by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MldCO-0001hv-4B for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Sep 2009 02:32:04 -0400 Received: by bwz20 with SMTP id 20so1892890bwz.42 for ; Wed, 09 Sep 2009 23:31:59 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.136.217 with SMTP id s25mr582065bkt.149.1252564319543; Wed, 09 Sep 2009 23:31:59 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 08:31:59 +0200 Message-ID: From: =?UTF-8?B?RnLDqWTDqXJpYyBCcm9u?= To: lilypond-user-fr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Detected-Operating-System: by mx20.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) Subject: licence libre X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 06:32:13 -0000 Bonjour Valentin, Je suis en train de transcrire la 4=C3=A8me symphonie de Schumann pour ensemble de clarinettes. Bien s=C3=BBr, comme j'ai commenc=C3=A9 par recopi= er la partition originale, je vais la partatger sur Mutopia (dois-je la mettre ailleurs aussi ?). En ce qui concerne l'arrangement, j'aimerais le placer sous licence Creative Commons comme tu le proposes et celle qui me para=C3=AEt la plus adapt=C3=A9e est "Paternit=C3=A9-Partage des Conditions Initiales =C3=A0 l'Identique". Sais-tu comment je peux faire appara=C3=AEtre ceci sur la partition puisque c'est la seule chose que je vais distribuer ? Il faudrait que je puisse inclure dans la partition lilypond le logo de CC et de la licence choisie + lien web... Aurais-tu d=C3=A9j=C3=A0 quelque chose de pr=C3=AAt pour cela ? Merci d'avance, Fr=C3=A9d=C3=A9ric From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Sep 10 03:29:03 2009 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1Mle5W-0003bF-QU for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Sep 2009 03:29:02 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mle5V-0003Zr-J4 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Sep 2009 03:29:01 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mle5Q-0003X7-W5 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Sep 2009 03:29:01 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=59216 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Mle5Q-0003Wj-L5 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Sep 2009 03:28:56 -0400 Received: from mx20.gnu.org ([199.232.41.8]:7567) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Mle5Q-0007dA-2Y for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Sep 2009 03:28:56 -0400 Received: from smtp1-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.1]) by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Mle5O-0005AU-B6 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Sep 2009 03:28:55 -0400 Received: from smtp1-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp1-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 334F8940170 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 2009 09:28:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [88.184.126.48] (gan34-1-88-184-126-48.fbx.proxad.net [88.184.126.48]) by smtp1-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36F03940138 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 2009 09:28:47 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4AA8AADE.4060606@free.fr> Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 09:29:34 +0200 From: Philippe Hezaine User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090629) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lilypond-fr References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Detected-Operating-System: by mx20.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) Subject: Re: licence libre X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 07:29:01 -0000 Fr=C3=A9d=C3=A9ric Bron a =C3=A9crit : > Bonjour Valentin, >=20 > Je suis en train de transcrire la 4=C3=A8me symphonie de Schumann pour > ensemble de clarinettes. Bien s=C3=BBr, comme j'ai commenc=C3=A9 par re= copier la > partition originale, je vais la partatger sur Mutopia (dois-je la > mettre ailleurs aussi ?). > En ce qui concerne l'arrangement, j'aimerais le placer sous licence > Creative Commons comme tu le proposes et celle qui me para=C3=AEt la pl= us > adapt=C3=A9e est "Paternit=C3=A9-Partage des Conditions Initiales =C3=A0 > l'Identique". > Sais-tu comment je peux faire appara=C3=AEtre ceci sur la partition pui= sque > c'est la seule chose que je vais distribuer ? Il faudrait que je > puisse inclure dans la partition lilypond le logo de CC et de la > licence choisie + lien web... > Aurais-tu d=C3=A9j=C3=A0 quelque chose de pr=C3=AAt pour cela ? >=20 > Merci d'avance, >=20 > Fr=C3=A9d=C3=A9ric >=20 Bonjour Fr=C3=A9d=C3=A9ric, Si cela peut =C3=AAtre utile, je te joins le header de Mutopia. Il te=20 faudrait tout de m=C3=AAme v=C3=A9rifier sur le site que les choses n'ont= pas=20 chang=C3=A9. Celui-ci date de 2006. Il y a normalement une page d=C3=A9di= =C3=A9e =C3=A0 ce=20 probl=C3=A8me. \header { title =3D "Album pour la jeunesse" subtitle =3D "40 (43) pi=C3=A8ces de piano" subsubtitle =3D "-----" composer =3D "Robert Schumann (1810-1856)" opus =3D "Opus 68 N=C2=B01" instrument =3D "M=C3=A9lodie" copyright =3D "Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 2.5" % These are headers used by the Mutopia Project % http://www.mutopiaproject.org/ mutopiatitle =3D "Album pour la jeunesse - 1.M=C3=A9lodie " mutopiacomposer =3D "SchumannR" mutopiaopus =3D "O 68 n=C2=B01" mutopiainstrument =3D "Piano" date =3D "1848" source =3D "Peters " style =3D "Romantic" copyright =3D "Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 2.5" maintainer =3D "Philippe H=C3=A9zaine" maintainerEmail =3D "philippe.hezaine@free.fr" maintainerWeb =3D "" lastupdated =3D "2006/Jun/20" footer =3D "Mutopia-2006/01/" tagline =3D \markup { \override #'(box-padding . 1.0) \override=20 #'(baseline-skip . 2.7) \box \center-column { \fontsize #-2 \line {=20 Sheet music from \with-url #"http://www.MutopiaProject.org" \line {=20 \fontsize #-3 www. \hspace #-1.0 MutopiaProject \hspace #-1.0 \fontsize=20 #-3 .org \hspace #0.5 } =E2=80=A2 \hspace #0.5 \italic Free to download, = with=20 the \italic freedom to distribute, modify and perform. } \line {=20 \fontsize #-2 \line { Typeset using \with-url #"http://www.LilyPond.org"=20 \line { \fontsize #-3 www. \hspace #-1.0 LilyPond \hspace #-1.0=20 \fontsize #-3 .org } by \maintainer \hspace #-1.0 . \hspace #0.5=20 Copyright =C2=A9 2005. \hspace #0.5 Reference: \footer } } \line { \fonts= ize=20 #-4 \line { Licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike=20 2.5 License, for details see: \hspace #-0.5 \with-url=20 #"http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.5"=20 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.5 } } } } } Amicalement. --=20 Phil. From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Sep 10 04:34:19 2009 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1Mlf6g-0002Pq-T9 for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Sep 2009 04:34:18 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mlf6f-0002Og-2J for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Sep 2009 04:34:17 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mlf6e-0002OE-0d for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Sep 2009 04:34:16 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=49662 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Mlf6d-0002O7-Q5 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Sep 2009 04:34:15 -0400 Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com ([72.14.220.152]:48271) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Mlf6d-0003ne-Cc for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Sep 2009 04:34:15 -0400 Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 22so2210111fge.12 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 2009 01:34:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=hzDDGIyqIJ9bOGy7sghYADBUXfaH1LX+0GhvM8raU6g=; b=QD0uITjyFdXfGptsRSh0QZ5924lOx1+QPIdrxHN0N5bGVJ5HH4tbYHm9XefHfPj8pQ C5hJzR0ZnPdNi6aMOc5q5wWxHV2ZtVRZycYj2SWTmHCQtZpP5ajdiVWlS4FYIFll/yet NNz59Ncef13qDMl0RbgHwb1eG6LGK9ZxCklGg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=MLXp+AeLrfHamHlvBhyMbZn+bwPIdrEWvM89zfcqziUmH5xqCQyDH1SoIIVQsFCFgr Utnzq5wz1yi/+ua/riIXq/hDZj8AZOkt1iszcjPMlGS6OS6u0iUdKCjwohI8xI20hUyU TF0Y+0V4NJtLlwpHPQzmOrdHEL/nR/SZ2jku0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.86.230.30 with SMTP id c30mr910103fgh.68.1252571654598; Thu, 10 Sep 2009 01:34:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 10:34:14 +0200 Message-ID: From: Valentin Villenave To: =?UTF-8?B?RnLDqWTDqXJpYyBCcm9u?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) Cc: lilypond-user-fr Subject: Re: licence libre X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 08:34:17 -0000 2009/9/10 Fr=C3=A9d=C3=A9ric Bron : > Je suis en train de transcrire la 4=C3=A8me symphonie de Schumann pour > ensemble de clarinettes. Bien s=C3=BBr, comme j'ai commenc=C3=A9 par reco= pier la > partition originale, je vais la partatger sur Mutopia (dois-je la > mettre ailleurs aussi ?). Partout o=C3=B9 bon te semble :-) > En ce qui concerne l'arrangement, j'aimerais le placer sous licence > Creative Commons comme tu le proposes et celle qui me para=C3=AEt la plus > adapt=C3=A9e est "Paternit=C3=A9-Partage des Conditions Initiales =C3=A0 > l'Identique". Tr=C3=A8s bon choix. > Sais-tu comment je peux faire appara=C3=AEtre ceci sur la partition puisq= ue > c'est la seule chose que je vais distribuer ? Il faudrait que je > puisse inclure dans la partition lilypond le logo de CC et de la > licence choisie + lien web... > Aurais-tu d=C3=A9j=C3=A0 quelque chose de pr=C3=AAt pour cela ? Malheureusement non. Mais comme Philippe l'a fait remarquer, il est tr=C3=A8s facile de l'indiquer. En ce qui concerne les licences CC, un simple mention textuelle suffit, accompagn=C3=A9e d'une URI o=C3=B9 l'on pe= ut lire la licence in extenso. Si tu tiens =C3=A0 ajouter le logo, il te faudra l'enregistrer sur ton disque dur, puis le convertir au format .eps (avec le gimp ou inkscape), et l'inclure dans un markup avec la commande \epsfile (tout cela est expliqu=C3=A9 dans la documentation en anglais, chapitre 1.8.2 -- oui nous sommes en retard dans la traduction). Bon courage ! 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Cc: lilypond-user-fr Subject: Re: licence libre X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 14:04:19 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040706060706090807050405 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Sais-tu comment je peux faire appara=C3=AEtre ceci sur la partition pui= sque > c'est la seule chose que je vais distribuer ? 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by joe with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 10 Sep 2009 10:22:01 -0500 Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 10:22:01 -0500 (CDT) From: legoss To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Message-ID: <1252596121625-3617608.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <4A940849.5020903@cathemline.org> References: <1251205859747-3509641.post@n2.nabble.com> <5EABE726-EA34-4DBE-BDFA-4A1260EC4D62@wanadoo.fr> <4A940849.5020903@cathemline.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Nabble-From: laurent.escolier@aliceadsl.fr X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Sep 2009 15:22:01.0625 (UTC) FILETIME=[72025090:01CA322A] X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Windows 2000 SP4, XP SP1+ Subject: Re: lilypondtool introuvable X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 16:09:17 -0000 'jour =C3=A0 tous. J'ai suivi ces pr=C3=A9cieux conseils avec jedit_4.3pre17_all.deb (ben oui, j'essaie ubuntu). Mais toujours rien. Sniff... :-( _______________________________________________ liste de diffusion lilypond-user-fr lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user-fr --=20 View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/lilypondtool-introuvable= -tp3509641p3617608.html Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Sep 10 15:38:55 2009 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1MlpTr-0007JA-8x for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Sep 2009 15:38:55 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MlpTp-0007Ih-Q9 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Sep 2009 15:38:53 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MlpTl-0007Eu-7z for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Sep 2009 15:38:53 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=48213 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MlpTl-0007Ep-26 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Sep 2009 15:38:49 -0400 Received: from 216-139-250-150.aus.us.siteprotect.com ([216.139.250.150]:2072 helo=joe) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MlpTk-0005tg-Mh for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Sep 2009 15:38:48 -0400 Received: from joe ([127.0.0.1]) by joe with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 10 Sep 2009 14:38:48 -0500 Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 14:38:48 -0500 (CDT) From: BIGRE To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Message-ID: <1252611528968-3618560.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_1650_711708.1252611528968" X-Nabble-From: pc.cyberbauz@laposte.net X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Sep 2009 19:38:48.0968 (UTC) FILETIME=[51804880:01CA324E] X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Windows 2000 SP4, XP SP1+ Subject: Re: licence libre X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 19:38:54 -0000 ------=_Part_1650_711708.1252611528968 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ?! Pourquoi ne pas distribuer le code lilypond ? Fr=C3=A9d=C3=A9ric Bron (via Nabble) a =C3=A9crit : >=20 >=20 > Bonjour Valentin, >=20 > Je suis en train de transcrire la 4=C3=A8me symphonie de Schumann [...] > Sais-tu comment je peux faire appara=C3=AEtre ceci sur la partition puisq= ue > c'est la seule chose que je vais distribuer ?=20 --=20 View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/licence-libre-tp3618033p= 3618560.html Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ------=_Part_1650_711708.1252611528968 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Pourquoi ne pas distribuer le code lilypond ?

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> Bonjour Valentin,
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> Sais-tu comment je peux faire appara=C3=AEtre ceci sur la part= ition puisque
> c'est la seule chose que je vais distribuer ?=20





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------=_Part_1650_711708.1252611528968-- From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Sep 10 15:45:40 2009 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1MlpaO-00050f-Ed for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Sep 2009 15:45:40 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MlpaM-0004yv-TZ for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Sep 2009 15:45:39 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MlpaI-0004vN-5c for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Sep 2009 15:45:38 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=42634 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MlpaH-0004v3-Qq for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Sep 2009 15:45:33 -0400 Received: from smtp20.orange.fr ([80.12.242.26]:44654) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MlpaH-0006yC-90 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Sep 2009 15:45:33 -0400 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2002.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 1282820000A4; Thu, 10 Sep 2009 21:45:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2002.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id F166F20000F3; Thu, 10 Sep 2009 21:45:31 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.102] (ALagny-153-1-96-121.w90-3.abo.wanadoo.fr [90.3.119.121]) by mwinf2002.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id B360A20000F2; Thu, 10 Sep 2009 21:45:31 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20090910194531734.B360A20000F2@mwinf2002.orange.fr Message-ID: <4AA95743.8020004@cathemline.org> Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 21:45:07 +0200 From: Martial User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: BIGRE References: <1252611528968-3618560.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <1252611528968-3618560.post@n2.nabble.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. Cc: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Subject: Re: licence libre X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 19:45:39 -0000 > Sais-tu comment je peux faire appara=C3=AEtre ceci sur la partition pui= sque > c'est la seule chose que je vais distribuer ? mettre la partition et le code sur http://www.mutopiaproject.org/ et dans le tagline mettre l'adresse (comprise dans le tagline donn=C3=A9 = par=20 Philippe ) --=20 Martial From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Sep 10 16:47:22 2009 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1MlqY6-0001xm-9o for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Sep 2009 16:47:22 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MlqY4-0001vw-F4 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Sep 2009 16:47:20 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MlqXz-0001rV-IL for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Sep 2009 16:47:19 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=45685 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MlqXz-0001rK-D7 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Sep 2009 16:47:15 -0400 Received: from mail-fx0-f226.google.com ([209.85.220.226]:52636) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MlqXy-0001pe-UD for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Sep 2009 16:47:15 -0400 Received: by fxm26 with SMTP id 26so411732fxm.42 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 2009 13:47:11 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.153.202 with SMTP id l10mr1316660bkw.92.1252615629761; Thu, 10 Sep 2009 13:47:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4AA95743.8020004@cathemline.org> References: <1252611528968-3618560.post@n2.nabble.com> <4AA95743.8020004@cathemline.org> Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 22:47:09 +0200 Message-ID: From: =?UTF-8?B?RnLDqWTDqXJpYyBCcm9u?= To: Martial Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) Cc: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org, BIGRE Subject: Re: licence libre X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 20:47:20 -0000 > mettre la partition et le code sur http://www.mutopiaproject.org/ > et dans le tagline mettre l'adresse (comprise dans le tagline donn=C3=A9 = par > Philippe ) Oui je peux mettre l'arrangement sur mutopia en effet. Bonne id=C3=A9e. Fr=C3=A9d=C3=A9ric From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Sep 10 18:58:13 2009 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1Mlsaj-0007Dx-7s for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Sep 2009 18:58:13 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mlsah-0007Be-NK for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Sep 2009 18:58:11 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mlsag-00078g-Pr for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Sep 2009 18:58:10 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=37068 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Mlsag-000786-92 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Sep 2009 18:58:10 -0400 Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com ([72.14.220.155]:63496) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Mlsaf-0006qH-32 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Sep 2009 18:58:09 -0400 Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 22so195633fge.12 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 2009 15:58:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=OSQmVfMD2lF4700CBm1fNXGhTNaQhVnaFrfhPSMwhYs=; b=KWWA2tIlinYR1BaxQfs3yIbqqGcB8rfJBzFhwatDDk/erJ+ZkLfIgTk3FbBSV0gbrg t3zYpJftj3JUU1Rib3WaPY+v93txm2yNZG+1HIL7ANxtv9qLzf2SpcxBsGN3lyP0TSYl 9VPl2q1KUOlfZRw0b9lgL/wSTXcUWCQzRiFi8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=gbMFQ0+2zOLst+ki1hqx2K0HuTzfL5Lvz376CPEgLKZKRlDt9MjBfIv/BL5o5LZAuH Z51YxzB5srX1Pm35Bkl5Lr8skcxiGvo2fAU00ql37n/31hA8C7S26fS2U+TDu+63RcJY 86f6+4WuvQavGPDAGB9414VqxOAP73vziRtXM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.86.227.13 with SMTP id z13mr1704476fgg.72.1252623486927; Thu, 10 Sep 2009 15:58:06 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 00:58:06 +0200 Message-ID: From: Valentin Villenave To: =?UTF-8?B?RnLDqWTDqXJpYyBCcm9u?= , Lilypond Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) Cc: Subject: Re: licence libre X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 22:58:12 -0000 2009/9/10 Fr=C3=A9d=C3=A9ric Bron : > J'ai vu que pour ton op=C3=A9ra, tu as laiss=C3=A9 le signe copyright en = plus de > la mention de la licence libre. Est-ce que tu me conseilles de laisser > ce symbole ? Est-ce que ce symbole n'indique pas que la copie n'est > pas libre ? Non. Le symbole =C2=A9 indique simplement que l'oeuvre n'est pas dans le domaine public, et sert =C3=A0 indiquer qui est le d=C3=A9tenteur du droit d'auteur pour les prochaines d=C3=A9cennies. En effet les licences libres sont une forme de droit d'auteur : elles donnent certaines libert=C3=A9s, mais aussi certaines obligations, et sont =C3=A0 ce titre plus restrictives que le domaine public. Il est donc opportun, _m=C3=AAme_ pour une oeuvre sous licence libre, _m=C3=AAme_ si nous d=C3=A9testons cordialement le symbole copyright (que j= 'ai, =C3=A0 titre de d=C3=A9nonciation, fait voisiner avec le logo copyleft), d'indiquer clairement qui d=C3=A9tient le droit d'auteur (par exemple au cas o=C3=B9 -- comme ce fut le cas pour mon op=C3=A9ra -- quelqu'un voudrai= t obtenir l'autorisation d'utiliser l'oeuvre en dehors du cadre de sa licence). Au demeurant, il faut aussi savoir que l'usage du =C2=A9 n'est pas obligatoire. Par d=C3=A9faut, toute oeuvre de l'esprit (y compris ta liste de commissions) est "prot=C3=A9g=C3=A9e" par le droit d'auteur le plus restrictif, et ce dans tous les pays signataires de la convention de Berne (le symbole =C2=A9 a =C3=A9t=C3=A9 ajout=C3=A9 en 1971 pour renforcer= ces trait=C3=A9s, je crois). Cordialement, Valentin From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Sep 11 04:12:55 2009 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1Mm1FX-0004jd-Kx for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Sep 2009 04:12:55 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mm1FV-0004jV-MO for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Sep 2009 04:12:53 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mm1FR-0004j5-Mr for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Sep 2009 04:12:53 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=60754 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Mm1FR-0004ij-IV for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Sep 2009 04:12:49 -0400 Received: from mx20.gnu.org ([199.232.41.8]:3887) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Mm1FR-0005xq-3I for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Sep 2009 04:12:49 -0400 Received: from smtp2f.orange.fr ([80.12.242.152]) by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Mm1FO-0004vN-He for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Sep 2009 04:12:46 -0400 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2f21.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id EB7B280000A5 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 2009 10:12:43 +0200 (CEST) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2f21.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id DF94980000A6 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 2009 10:12:43 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost.localnet (Mix-Lyon-301-3-197.w193-250.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.250.16.197]) by mwinf2f21.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 4BF4D80000A5 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 2009 10:12:43 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20090911081243311.4BF4D80000A5@mwinf2f21.orange.fr From: Daniel Cartron To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 10:13:33 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.4 (Linux/2.6.29.1-desktop-4mnb; KDE/4.2.2; i686; ; ) References: <4A16DB27.70209@free.fr> In-Reply-To: <4A16DB27.70209@free.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200909111013.35130.daniel@cartron.org> X-detected-operating-system: by mx20.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) Subject: Re: Ecritures batterie X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 08:12:53 -0000 Bonjour tout le monde, Je relance ce fil car mon fiston a commenc=C3=A9 la batterie hier et bien e= ntendu=20 j'essaye de lui taper ses exercices dans lilypond. Voici ci-dessous ce que j'ai fait pour l'instant, si les batteurs de la li= ste=20 pouvaient me dire si c'est correct ou si ils feraient autrement ce serait=20 sympa, que je ne prenne pas de mauvaises habitudes. Petits d=C3=A9fauts =C3=A0 corriger si possible :=20 =2D les lettres a, b, c apara=C3=AEssent au dessus de la premi=C3=A8re note= de la mesure=20 alors que j'aimerais qu'elles soient au-dessus de la barre de mesure ; =2D les hampes de la grosse caisse sont vers le haut, je les pr=C3=A9f=C3= =A9rerais vers le=20 bas et j'ai jamais bien su r=C3=A9gler ce truc. Merci d'avance pour votre aide. \version "2.12.2" \header { title =3D "Pr=C3=A9paration =C3=A0 l'ind=C3=A9pendance" tagline =3D " " } Ride =3D \drummode { \repeat unfold 12 cymra4 \repeat unfold 24 cymra8 cymra8 cymra cymra4 cymra8 cymra cymra4=20 cymra8 cymra r4 cymra8 cymra r4=20 cymra8 cymra cymra4 cymra8 cymra r4 \repeat unfold 20 cymra4 cymra8 cymra cymra cymra cymra4 cymra } Charleston =3D \drummode { \set Staff.instrumentName =3D #"1" \bar ":|:" s4^"a" hhp s hhp \bar ":|:" hhp^"b" hhp hhp hhp \bar ":|:" hhp^"c" hhp hhp hhp \bar ":|:" \break \set Staff.instrumentName =3D #"2" s4^"a" hhp s hhp \bar ":|:" hhp^"b" hhp hhp hhp \bar ":|:" hhp^"c" hhp hhp hhp \bar ":|:" \break hhp^"d" hhp hhp hhp \bar ":|:" hhp^"e" hhp hhp hhp \bar ":|:" hhp^"f" hhp hhp hhp \bar ":|:" \break \set Staff.instrumentName =3D #"3" s4^"a" hhp s hhp s4 hhp s hhp \bar ":|:" hhp^"b" hhp hhp hhp \bar ":|:" \break s4^"c" hhp s hhp \bar ":|:" hhp^"d" hhp hhp hhp \bar ":|:" hhp^"e" hhp hhp hhp \bar ":|:" } GrosseCaisse =3D \drummode { bd4 s bd s bd4 s bd s bd4 bd bd bd bd4 s bd s bd4 s bd s bd4 bd bd bd bd4 s bd s bd4 s bd s bd4 s bd s bd4 s bd s bd8 bd s4 bd8 bd s4=20 bd4 s bd8 bd s4 bd8 bd s4 bd8 bd bd4=20 bd8 bd bd4 bd8 bd bd4=20 bd8 bd s4 bd8 bd s4=20 } \layout{ indent =3D #0=20 \context { \Score \remove "Bar_number_engraver" } } \new DrumStaff << \new DrumVoice { \voiceOne \Ride } \new DrumVoice { \voiceTwo \Charleston } \new DrumVoice { \voiceThree \GrosseCaisse } >> \paper { #(set-paper-size "a5" 'landscape) left-margin =3D 20\mm line-width =3D=20 180\mm top-margin =3D 15\mm bottom-margin =3D 10\mm% Format Carnet % #(set-paper-size "a4") left-margin =3D 20\mm line-width =3D 180\mm top- margin =3D 15\mm bottom-margin =3D 150\mm% Format A5 sur du A4 page-count =3D #1 % Partition en une seule page %ragged-last-bottom=3D##f } =2D-=20 Cordialement, Daniel Cartron =C2=AB Parler pour ne rien dire ou ne rien dire pour parler sont les deux principes majeurs de tous ceux qui feraient bien de la fermer avant de l'ouvrir. =C2=BB Pierre Dac From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Sep 11 05:02:47 2009 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1Mm21n-0002Hs-CI for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Sep 2009 05:02:47 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mm21l-0002HF-OJ for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Sep 2009 05:02:45 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mm21h-0002FY-Ad for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Sep 2009 05:02:45 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=43824 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Mm21g-0002FP-Im for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Sep 2009 05:02:40 -0400 Received: from smtp2f.orange.fr ([80.12.242.152]:36292) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Mm21g-0006B8-1o for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Sep 2009 05:02:40 -0400 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2f19.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 1180180000AE for ; Fri, 11 Sep 2009 11:02:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2f19.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 017D680000A2 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 2009 11:02:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost.localnet (Mix-Lyon-301-3-251.w193-250.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.250.15.251]) by mwinf2f19.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 0EAAA80000B1 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 2009 11:02:36 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20090911090236602.0EAAA80000B1@mwinf2f19.orange.fr From: Daniel Cartron To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 11:03:27 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.4 (Linux/2.6.29.1-desktop-4mnb; KDE/4.2.2; i686; ; ) References: <4A16DB27.70209@free.fr> <200909111013.35130.daniel@cartron.org> In-Reply-To: <200909111013.35130.daniel@cartron.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200909111103.27446.daniel@cartron.org> X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. Subject: Re: Ecritures batterie X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 09:02:45 -0000 Le vendredi 11 septembre 2009, Daniel Cartron a =C3=A9crit : > - les lettres a, b, c apara=C3=AEssent au dessus de la premi=C3=A8re note= de la > mesure alors que j'aimerais qu'elles soient au-dessus de la barre de mesu= re > ; =C3=A7a j'ai trouv=C3=A9 =2D-=20 Cordialement, Daniel Cartron =C2=AB En automne, toutes les feuilles des livres devraient tomber. =C2=BB Ramon Gomez de la Serna From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Sep 11 05:28:34 2009 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1Mm2Qk-0005X9-C6 for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Sep 2009 05:28:34 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mm2Qj-0005Ur-2k for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Sep 2009 05:28:33 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mm2Qe-0005Ly-5d for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Sep 2009 05:28:32 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=59749 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Mm2Qd-0005Lc-W1 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Sep 2009 05:28:28 -0400 Received: from smtp2f.orange.fr ([80.12.242.151]:39751) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Mm2Qd-0002p2-MC for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Sep 2009 05:28:27 -0400 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2f12.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 0F53D8000290 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 2009 11:28:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2f12.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 0292F8000292 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 2009 11:28:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost.localnet (Mix-Lyon-301-1-127.w193-250.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.250.5.127]) by mwinf2f12.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id AF6518000290 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 2009 11:28:24 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20090911092824718.AF6518000290@mwinf2f12.orange.fr From: Daniel Cartron To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 11:29:18 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.4 (Linux/2.6.29.1-desktop-4mnb; KDE/4.2.2; i686; ; ) References: <4A16DB27.70209@free.fr> <200909111013.35130.daniel@cartron.org> In-Reply-To: <200909111013.35130.daniel@cartron.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200909111129.19148.daniel@cartron.org> X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. Subject: Re: Ecritures batterie X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 09:28:33 -0000 Le vendredi 11 septembre 2009, Daniel Cartron a =C3=A9crit : > es hampes de la grosse caisse sont vers le haut, je les pr=C3=A9f=C3=A9re= rais vers le > bas et j'ai jamais bien su r=C3=A9gler ce truc. Je viens d'essayer avec un \stemDown au d=C3=A9but de ma partie GrosseCaiss= e, =C3=A7a=20 marche mais le charleston et la grosse caisse ne sont pas sur la mm hampe=20 (l=C3=A9g=C3=A8rement d=C3=A9cal=C3=A9s), c'est pas ce que je cherche. MA m= =C3=A9thode de saisie est=20 mauvaise ? =2D-=20 Cordialement, Daniel Cartron =C2=AB Je me flatte d'avoir toujours le dernier mot dans mon m=C3=A9nage...= Et ce mot est g=C3=A9n=C3=A9ralement oui. =C2=BB Jules Renard From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Sep 11 05:47:11 2009 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1Mm2il-0005yy-4G for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Sep 2009 05:47:11 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mm2ig-0005wD-B8 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Sep 2009 05:47:06 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mm2ib-0005rE-8Q for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Sep 2009 05:47:05 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=46513 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Mm2ib-0005r0-1A for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Sep 2009 05:47:01 -0400 Received: from smtp1-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.1]:38565) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Mm2ia-0005E6-7x for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Sep 2009 05:47:00 -0400 Received: from smtp1-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp1-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F3C5940134 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 2009 11:46:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [88.184.126.48] (gan34-1-88-184-126-48.fbx.proxad.net [88.184.126.48]) by smtp1-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6400C9400FB for ; Fri, 11 Sep 2009 11:46:53 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4AAA1CBD.5060000@free.fr> Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 11:47:41 +0200 From: Philippe Hezaine User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090629) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lilypond-fr References: <4A16DB27.70209@free.fr> <200909111013.35130.daniel@cartron.org> <200909111129.19148.daniel@cartron.org> In-Reply-To: <200909111129.19148.daniel@cartron.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Subject: Re: Ecritures batterie X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 09:47:06 -0000 Daniel Cartron a =C3=A9crit : > Le vendredi 11 septembre 2009, Daniel Cartron a =C3=A9crit : >> es hampes de la grosse caisse sont vers le haut, je les pr=C3=A9f=C3=A9= rerais vers le >> bas et j'ai jamais bien su r=C3=A9gler ce truc. >=20 > Je viens d'essayer avec un \stemDown au d=C3=A9but de ma partie GrosseC= aisse, =C3=A7a=20 > marche mais le charleston et la grosse caisse ne sont pas sur la mm ham= pe=20 > (l=C3=A9g=C3=A8rement d=C3=A9cal=C3=A9s), c'est pas ce que je cherche. = MA m=C3=A9thode de saisie est=20 > mauvaise ? Remplace: \new DrumVoice { \voiceThree \GrosseCaisse } par: \new DrumVoice { \voiceTwo \GrosseCaisse } --=20 Phil. From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Sep 11 06:12:26 2009 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1Mm37B-000482-Ur for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Sep 2009 06:12:25 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mm379-00047x-Se for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Sep 2009 06:12:23 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mm374-00047X-0o for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Sep 2009 06:12:22 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=36088 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Mm373-00047U-LJ for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Sep 2009 06:12:17 -0400 Received: from smtp2f.orange.fr ([80.12.242.152]:20658) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Mm373-0000fU-Ah for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Sep 2009 06:12:17 -0400 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2f16.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 89E7C80000A3 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 2009 12:12:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2f16.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 7DFA280000B0 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 2009 12:12:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost.localnet (Mix-Lyon-301-1-124.w193-250.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.250.5.124]) by mwinf2f16.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 39CC080000AB for ; Fri, 11 Sep 2009 12:12:16 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20090911101216236.39CC080000AB@mwinf2f16.orange.fr From: Daniel Cartron To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 12:13:09 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.4 (Linux/2.6.29.1-desktop-4mnb; KDE/4.2.2; i686; ; ) References: <200909111129.19148.daniel@cartron.org> <4AAA1CBD.5060000@free.fr> In-Reply-To: <4AAA1CBD.5060000@free.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200909111213.10421.daniel@cartron.org> X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. Subject: Re: Ecritures batterie X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 10:12:24 -0000 Le vendredi 11 septembre 2009, Philippe Hezaine a =C3=A9crit : > Remplace: > \new DrumVoice { \voiceThree \GrosseCaisse } > par: > \new DrumVoice { \voiceTwo \GrosseCaisse } Super, c'=C3=A9tait b=C3=AAtement =C3=A7a. Merci Philippe. Bon maintenant tout marche, reste la question de savoir si ma m=C3=A9thode = est=20 bonne ou si toi tu fais autrement pour ce genre de partition. =2D-=20 Cordialement, Daniel Cartron =C2=AB La science est un jeu dont la r=C3=A8gle du jeu consiste =C3=A0 trou= ver quelle est la=20 r=C3=A8gle du jeu. =C2=BB =46ran=C3=A7ois Cavanna - Le saviez-vous ? From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Sep 11 12:46:02 2009 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1Mm9G5-00069E-Vl for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Sep 2009 12:46:02 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mm9G3-00065K-Ir for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Sep 2009 12:45:59 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mm9Fx-0005u0-UC for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Sep 2009 12:45:58 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=55540 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Mm9Fx-0005tF-8h for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Sep 2009 12:45:53 -0400 Received: from smtp1-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.1]:54264) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Mm9Fw-0005z7-4o for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Sep 2009 12:45:53 -0400 Received: from smtp1-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp1-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24F799400FE for ; Fri, 11 Sep 2009 18:45:45 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [88.184.126.48] (gan34-1-88-184-126-48.fbx.proxad.net [88.184.126.48]) by smtp1-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EF799401B8 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 2009 18:45:43 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4AAA7EE6.7060103@free.fr> Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 18:46:30 +0200 From: Philippe Hezaine User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090629) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lilypond-fr References: <200909111129.19148.daniel@cartron.org> <4AAA1CBD.5060000@free.fr> <200909111213.10421.daniel@cartron.org> In-Reply-To: <200909111213.10421.daniel@cartron.org> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------020907020507000402030206" X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Subject: Re: Ecritures batterie X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 16:46:00 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020907020507000402030206 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Daniel Cartron a =C3=A9crit : > Le vendredi 11 septembre 2009, Philippe Hezaine a =C3=A9crit : >> Remplace: >> \new DrumVoice { \voiceThree \GrosseCaisse } >> par: >> \new DrumVoice { \voiceTwo \GrosseCaisse } >=20 > Super, c'=C3=A9tait b=C3=AAtement =C3=A7a. Merci Philippe. > Bon maintenant tout marche, reste la question de savoir si ma m=C3=A9th= ode est=20 > bonne ou si toi tu fais autrement pour ce genre de partition. Oui! c'est bon. J'ai pens=C3=A9 depuis un bout de temps =C3=A0 faire une =C3=A9dition des "BASES-STYLES" du (d=C3=A9j=C3=A0 vieux) Puzzle du Batteur pour un batteu= r r=C3=A9el. Je joins le mod=C3=A8le de l'=C3=A9poque agr=C3=A9ment=C3=A9 d'un petit e= xemple. Toute remarque sera la bienvenue. P.S. Je dis "d=C3=A9j=C3=A0 vieux" parce qu'une nouvelle version compl=C3= =A8tement remani=C3=A9e et qui sera GPL commence =C3=A0 pointer son nez. Si =C3=A7a= en vaut le coup, une =C3=A9dition pour un batteur r=C3=A9el pourrait peut-=C3=AAtre = suivre mais, de toute fa=C3=A7on, pas avant plusieurs mois. (si =C3=A7a en vaut le cou= p) Pour Valentin: Je me suis inscrit sur la liste midi de lilynet. D=C3=A8s = que je vais trouver un moment pour rassembler mes donn=C3=A9es je posterai un message, pour faire le point. (Et en anglais =C3=A7a me prend vraiment pl= us de temps) Amiti=C3=A9s. --=20 Phil. --------------020907020507000402030206 Content-Type: text/x-lilypond; name="00-modele-pour-un-batteur-reel.ly" Content-Disposition: inline; filename="00-modele-pour-un-batteur-reel.ly" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable \version "2.12.0" % \include "0-mydrums-style2.ly" #(ly:set-option 'delete-intermediate-files #t) \paper { ragged-bottom =3D ##f ragged-last-bottom =3D ##f } \header { title =3D "Mod=C3=A8le Batteur r=C3=A9el." copyright =3D \markup { \fontsize #3 \bold \override #'(box-paddin= g . 1.0) \override #'(baseline-skip . 2.7) \box \column { \center-column= { \fontsize #-2 \line { =E2=80=A2 \hspace #0.5 Copyleft: cette oeuvre e= st libre, vous pouvez la copier, la diffuser et la modifier. } \line { \= fontsize #-2 \line { Cr=C3=A9=C3=A9 avec LilyPond 2.11.63 \with-url #"h= ttp://www.LilyPond.org" \line { \with-color #blue \fontsize #-1 www. \hsp= ace #-1.0 \with-color #blue LilyPond \hspace #-1.0 \with-color #blue \fon= tsize #-1 .org } par Ph. Hardy } } \line { \fontsize #-4 \line {Copyleft = 11/2008: selon les termes de la Licence Art Libre , voir: \hspace #-0.5 \= with-url #"http://www.artlibre.org" \with-color #blue http://www.artlib= re.org } } } } }=20 tagline =3D \markup { \fontsize #3 \bold \override #'(box-padding= . 1.0) \override #'(baseline-skip . 2.7) \box \column { \center-column = { \fontsize #-2 \line { =E2=80=A2 \hspace #0.5 Copyleft: cette oeuvre es= t libre, vous pouvez la copier, la diffuser et la modifier. } \line { \f= ontsize #-2 \line { Cr=C3=A9=C3=A9 avec LilyPond 2.11.63 \with-url #"htt= p://www.LilyPond.org" \line { \with-color #blue \fontsize #-1 www. \hspac= e #-1.0 \with-color #blue LilyPond \hspace #-1.0 \with-color #blue \fonts= ize #-1 .org } par Ph. Hardy } } \line { \fontsize #-4 \line {Copyleft 11= /2008: selon les termes de la Licence Art Libre , voir: \hspace #-0.5 \wi= th-url #"http://www.artlibre.org" \with-color #blue http://www.artlibre= .org } } } } } } %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% PERCUSSIONS EN PLUS %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%= %%%%% maracas =3D \drummode {=20 \time 4/4=20 \tempo 4 =3D 80 } cabasa =3D \drummode {=20 \time 4/4=20 \tempo 4 =3D 80 } tambourin =3D \drummode {=20 \time 4/4=20 \tempo 4 =3D 80 } %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% BATTERIE SEULE %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%= % mains =3D \drummode {=20 \time 4/4=20 \tempo 4 =3D 80 r4 ss4 r4 ss4 | R1 | r4 ss4 r4 ss4 | cymra4 4 cymra4 4 | cymra4 4 cymra4 4 | cymca8 r8 r4 r2 | } pieds =3D \drummode {=20 \time 4/4=20 \tempo 4 =3D 80 \times 2/3 {8 r8 hhp8} \times 2/3 {hhp8 r8 hhp8} \times 2/3 {8 r8 hhp8} \times 2/3 {hhp8 r8 hhp8} | R1 | \times 2/3 {8 r8 hhp8} \times 2/3 {hhp8 r8 8} \times 2/3= {hhp8 r8 8} \times 2/3 {hhp8 r8 hhp8} | \times 2/3 {8 r8 hhp8} \times 2/3 {hhp8 r8 hhp8} \times 2/3 {8 r8 hhp8} \times 2/3 {hhp8 r8 8} | \times 2/3 {8 r8 hhp8} \times 2/3 {hhp8 r8 8} \times 2/3= {8 r8 8} \times 2/3 {hhp8 r8 hhp8} | bd8 r8 r4 r2 | } \score { << %{ \new DrumStaff \with {=20 drumStyleTable =3D #(alist->hash-table mydrums-style2) } << \set Staff.instrumentName =3D "maracas" \set Staff.shortInstrumentName =3D "mar" \set Staff.midiInstrument =3D "" \new DrumVoice { \maracas } \override DrumStaff.VerticalAxisGroup #'minimum-Y-extent =3D #'(-5 . 2.5= ) >> %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% \new DrumStaff \with {=20 drumStyleTable =3D #(alist->hash-table mydrums-style2) } << \set Staff.instrumentName =3D "cabasa" \set Staff.shortInstrumentName =3D "cab" \set Staff.midiInstrument =3D "" \new DrumVoice { \cabasa } \override DrumStaff.VerticalAxisGroup #'minimum-Y-extent =3D #'(-5 . 2.5= ) >> %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% \new DrumStaff \with {=20 drumStyleTable =3D #(alist->hash-table mydrums-style2) } << \set Staff.instrumentName =3D "tamb" \set Staff.shortInstrumentName =3D "tamb" \set Staff.midiInstrument =3D "" \new DrumVoice { \tambourin } \override DrumStaff.VerticalAxisGroup #'minimum-Y-extent =3D #'(-5 . 2.5= ) >> %} %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% \new DrumStaff \with { % drumStyleTable =3D #(alist->hash-table mydrums-style2) \override DrumStaff #'TimeSignature #'style =3D #'() fontSize =3D #1 \override StaffSymbol #'staff-space =3D #(magstep 1) } << \set Staff.instrumentName =3D "Drums" \set Staff.shortInstrumentName =3D "drums" \set Staff.midiInstrument =3D "" \override Score.MetronomeMark #'extra-offset =3D #'(-10 . 2.5) \new DrumVoice { \voiceOne \mains } \new DrumVoice { \voiceTwo \pieds } \override Staff.NoteCollision #'merge-differently-headed =3D ##t \override Staff.NoteCollision #'merge-differently-dotted =3D ##t >> >> \layout {} \midi { \context { \Score tempoWholesPerMinute =3D #(ly:make-moment 80 4) } } } --------------020907020507000402030206-- From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Sep 11 13:26:14 2009 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1Mm9t0-0003HV-1d for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Sep 2009 13:26:14 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mm9sz-0003Fv-14 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Sep 2009 13:26:13 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mm9su-00036e-3B for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Sep 2009 13:26:12 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=45343 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Mm9st-00036D-SK for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Sep 2009 13:26:07 -0400 Received: from smtp1-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.1]:53143) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Mm9st-000554-7Q for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Sep 2009 13:26:07 -0400 Received: from smtp1-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp1-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11DC5940106 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 2009 19:26:03 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [88.184.126.48] (gan34-1-88-184-126-48.fbx.proxad.net [88.184.126.48]) by smtp1-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB5EA9401A9 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 2009 19:26:00 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4AAA8858.7010002@free.fr> Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 19:26:48 +0200 From: Philippe Hezaine User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090629) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lilypond-fr References: <200909111129.19148.daniel@cartron.org> <4AAA1CBD.5060000@free.fr> <200909111213.10421.daniel@cartron.org> <4AAA7EE6.7060103@free.fr> In-Reply-To: <4AAA7EE6.7060103@free.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Subject: Re: Ecritures batterie X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 17:26:13 -0000 Philippe Hezaine a =C3=A9crit : La poste joue des tours. >=20 > \score { << %{ \new DrumStaff \with { =09 drumStyleTable =3D #(alist->hash-table mydrums-style2) Le % doit se trouver une ligne en dessous. Ugh. --=20 Phil. From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Sep 11 13:30:46 2009 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1Mm9xN-0006Cd-TO for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Sep 2009 13:30:45 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mm9xM-00069S-0x for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Sep 2009 13:30:44 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mm9xH-00062i-6g for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Sep 2009 13:30:43 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=42759 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Mm9xH-00062c-1r for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Sep 2009 13:30:39 -0400 Received: from smtp1-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.1]:50186) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Mm9xG-0005he-EQ for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Sep 2009 13:30:38 -0400 Received: from smtp1-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp1-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED655940170 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 2009 19:30:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [88.184.126.48] (gan34-1-88-184-126-48.fbx.proxad.net [88.184.126.48]) by smtp1-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A263940135 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 2009 19:30:32 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4AAA8967.8040205@free.fr> Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 19:31:19 +0200 From: Philippe Hezaine User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090629) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lilypond-fr References: <200909111129.19148.daniel@cartron.org> <4AAA1CBD.5060000@free.fr> <200909111213.10421.daniel@cartron.org> <4AAA7EE6.7060103@free.fr> <4AAA8858.7010002@free.fr> In-Reply-To: <4AAA8858.7010002@free.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Subject: Re: Ecritures batterie X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 17:30:44 -0000 Philippe Hezaine a =C3=A9crit : Re-Ugh. Je commence =C3=A0 =C3=AAtre surmen=C3=A9. Le pr=C3=A9c=C3=A9dent post en est un sympt=C3=B4me inqui=C3=A9tant. N'en tenez pas compte, les docteurs s'en occuperont. Ugh. --=20 Phil. From MAILER-DAEMON Sun Sep 13 05:52:12 2009 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1Mmlkh-0005UF-TP for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Sep 2009 05:52:11 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mmlkf-0005Sd-DI for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Sep 2009 05:52:09 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mmlka-0005O4-Eu for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Sep 2009 05:52:08 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=41891 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MmlkZ-0005No-PG for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Sep 2009 05:52:03 -0400 Received: from smtp20.orange.fr ([193.252.22.31]:28318) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MmlkZ-0003AU-B8 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Sep 2009 05:52:03 -0400 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2024.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 8288020000A0 for ; Sun, 13 Sep 2009 11:52:00 +0200 (CEST) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2024.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 71B1E20000A1 for ; Sun, 13 Sep 2009 11:52:00 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost.localnet (Mix-Lyon-301-2-61.w193-250.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.250.6.61]) by mwinf2024.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id C867920000A0 for ; Sun, 13 Sep 2009 11:51:57 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20090913095157820.C867920000A0@mwinf2024.orange.fr From: Daniel Cartron To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 11:53:05 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.4 (Linux/2.6.29.1-desktop-4mnb; KDE/4.2.2; i686; ; ) References: <200909111213.10421.daniel@cartron.org> <4AAA7EE6.7060103@free.fr> In-Reply-To: <4AAA7EE6.7060103@free.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200909131153.06243.daniel@cartron.org> X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. Subject: Re: Ecritures batterie X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 09:52:10 -0000 Le vendredi 11 septembre 2009, Philippe Hezaine a =C3=A9crit : > Je joins le mod=C3=A8le de l'=C3=A9poque agr=C3=A9ment=C3=A9 d'un petit e= xemple. Sympa le mod=C3=A8le. JE l'ai un peu modifi=C3=A9 pour l'adapter =C3=A0 mes= besoins et=20 habitudes (notamment papier) mais la base est int=C3=A9ressante. Et m'inspi= re qq=20 questions. Je vois que tu ne fais que deux voix, mains et pieds, puis-je en conclure q= ue=20 les mains seront tjs en haut de la port=C3=A9e avec les hampes vers le haut= et les=20 pieds en bas ? Si c'est bien le cas (ce qui me semble logique en plus) ta=20 m=C3=A9thode est plus int=C3=A9ressante que la mienne, et l'utilisation des= chevrons=20 rend les partitions plus lisibles que la mienne. Adopt=C3=A9 ! Tiens je vai= s=20 r=C3=A9=C3=A9crire son exercice pour voir. Tu r=C3=A9p=C3=A8tes le tempo dans chaque voix, est-ce n=C3=A9cessaire ? Je ne comprend pas tous tes override, je vais =C3=A9tudier =C3=A7a tranquil= lement. Par=20 contre j'ai besoin d'en mettre un en plus et je butte toujours sur ce truc,= =20 comment faire pour que les ligatures des croches fassent un temps et non de= ux=20 ? Si j'ai 4 croches pour la cymbale, elles sont group=C3=A9es toutes les 4 = et je=20 les voudrais 2 par 2. Merci. =2D-=20 Cordialement, Daniel Cartron =C2=AB L'argent n'est que la fausse monnaie du bonheur. =C2=BB E. et J. de Goncourt From MAILER-DAEMON Sun Sep 13 06:33:14 2009 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1MmmOQ-000076-Eq for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Sep 2009 06:33:14 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MmmON-00005S-6r for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Sep 2009 06:33:11 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MmmOI-0008WS-Ik for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Sep 2009 06:33:10 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=50760 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MmmOI-0008WP-BG for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Sep 2009 06:33:06 -0400 Received: from smtp6-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.6]:43578) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MmmOH-0008G7-Bi for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Sep 2009 06:33:06 -0400 Received: from smtp6-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp6-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20393E080C5; Sun, 13 Sep 2009 12:32:59 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (vir91-4-82-238-183-78.fbx.proxad.net [82.238.183.78]) by smtp6-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCDACE080E2; Sun, 13 Sep 2009 12:32:56 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4AACCAF7.9080209@laposte.net> Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 12:35:35 +0200 From: Cile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Daniel Cartron References: <200909111213.10421.daniel@cartron.org> <4AAA7EE6.7060103@free.fr> <200909131153.06243.daniel@cartron.org> In-Reply-To: <200909131153.06243.daniel@cartron.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090912-0, 12/09/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Cc: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Subject: Re: Ecritures batterie X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 10:33:11 -0000 Le 13/09/2009 11:53, Daniel Cartron a =E9crit : > Je ne comprend pas tous tes override, je vais =E9tudier =E7a tranquille= ment. Par=20 > contre j'ai besoin d'en mettre un en plus et je butte toujours sur ce t= ruc,=20 > comment faire pour que les ligatures des croches fassent un temps et no= n deux=20 > ? Si j'ai 4 croches pour la cymbale, elles sont group=E9es toutes les 4= et je=20 > les voudrais 2 par 2. Pour les croches group=E9es par 2 j'ai cette mini fonction dans mon=20 fichier init : CrochesParDeux =3D { #(override-auto-beam-setting '(end * * * *) 1 4 'Score) #(override-auto-beam-setting '(end * * * *) 2 4 'Score) #(override-auto-beam-setting '(end * * * *) 3 4 'Score) } Apr=E8s il te suffit de placer \CrochesParDeux dans le global de ton=20 morceau et le tour est jou=E9. A+ C=E9cile From MAILER-DAEMON Sun Sep 13 06:39:19 2009 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1MmmUJ-0003gK-DP for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Sep 2009 06:39:19 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MmmUF-0003dP-Sn for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Sep 2009 06:39:16 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MmmUA-0003Yu-2D for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Sep 2009 06:39:14 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=35058 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MmmU9-0003YW-P3 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Sep 2009 06:39:09 -0400 Received: from smtp20.orange.fr ([80.12.242.26]:28990) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MmmU9-0000SZ-8v for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Sep 2009 06:39:09 -0400 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2018.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id E70392000046 for ; Sun, 13 Sep 2009 12:39:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2018.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id D75D020000B0 for ; Sun, 13 Sep 2009 12:39:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost.localnet (Mix-Lyon-301-2-61.w193-250.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.250.6.61]) by mwinf2018.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 0197D2000046 for ; Sun, 13 Sep 2009 12:39:04 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20090913103904660.0197D2000046@mwinf2018.orange.fr From: Daniel Cartron To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 12:40:04 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.4 (Linux/2.6.29.1-desktop-4mnb; KDE/4.2.2; i686; ; ) References: <200909131153.06243.daniel@cartron.org> <4AACCAF7.9080209@laposte.net> In-Reply-To: <4AACCAF7.9080209@laposte.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200909131240.05855.daniel@cartron.org> X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. Subject: Re: Ecritures batterie X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 10:39:17 -0000 Le dimanche 13 septembre 2009, Cile a =E9crit : > Pour les croches group=E9es par 2 j'ai cette mini fonction Bingo c'est =E7a ! J'ai d=E9j=E0 utilis=E9 ce truc une ou deux fois mais je= ne me=20 souviens jamais dans quel fichier il faut que je recopie, je devrais bien m= e=20 faire un pense-b=EAte, moi... Merci =2D-=20 Cordialement, Daniel Cartron =AB La v=E9ritable absence, c'est quand on ne sait pas qui est absent. =BB Robert Sabatier - Le livre de la d=E9raison souriante From MAILER-DAEMON Sun Sep 13 06:51:24 2009 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1Mmmfz-0007NV-41 for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Sep 2009 06:51:23 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mmmfv-0007Mu-Rg for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Sep 2009 06:51:20 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mmmfp-0007LX-8H for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Sep 2009 06:51:18 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=42101 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Mmmfm-0007KC-DY for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Sep 2009 06:51:10 -0400 Received: from smtp20.orange.fr ([193.252.22.31]:46374) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Mmmfl-0001qu-Hl for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Sep 2009 06:51:09 -0400 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2019.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 0314920000AF for ; Sun, 13 Sep 2009 12:51:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2019.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id E98DE20000B2 for ; Sun, 13 Sep 2009 12:51:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.102] (ALagny-153-1-96-121.w90-3.abo.wanadoo.fr [90.3.119.121]) by mwinf2019.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id B503720000AF for ; Sun, 13 Sep 2009 12:51:06 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20090913105106741.B503720000AF@mwinf2019.orange.fr Message-ID: <4AACCE7A.9060604@cathemline.org> Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 12:50:34 +0200 From: Martial User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org References: <200909111213.10421.daniel@cartron.org> <4AAA7EE6.7060103@free.fr> <200909131153.06243.daniel@cartron.org> <4AACCAF7.9080209@laposte.net> In-Reply-To: <4AACCAF7.9080209@laposte.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. Subject: Re: Ecritures batterie X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 10:51:21 -0000 bonjour Sauf erreur avec la version "2.13.3" les croches sortent group=E9es 2/2 > CrochesParDeux =3D { > #(override-auto-beam-setting '(end * * * *) 1 4 'Score) > #(override-auto-beam-setting '(end * * * *) 2 4 'Score) > #(override-auto-beam-setting '(end * * * *) 3 4 'Score) > } --=20 Martial From MAILER-DAEMON Sun Sep 13 07:13:08 2009 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1Mmn11-0004H8-Ky for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Sep 2009 07:13:07 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mmn0x-0004CA-Nr for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Sep 2009 07:13:03 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mmn0r-00048k-KF for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Sep 2009 07:13:01 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=58667 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Mmn0r-00048W-DU for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Sep 2009 07:12:57 -0400 Received: from smtp20.orange.fr ([80.12.242.26]:25320) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Mmn0r-0004oi-1l for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Sep 2009 07:12:57 -0400 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2002.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 08F5020000A2 for ; Sun, 13 Sep 2009 13:12:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2002.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id ED93B20000BF for ; Sun, 13 Sep 2009 13:12:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost.localnet (Mix-Lyon-301-2-61.w193-250.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.250.6.61]) by mwinf2002.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id E58B720000B4 for ; Sun, 13 Sep 2009 13:12:43 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20090913111243940.E58B720000B4@mwinf2002.orange.fr From: Daniel Cartron To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 13:13:40 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.4 (Linux/2.6.29.1-desktop-4mnb; KDE/4.2.2; i686; ; ) References: <4AACCAF7.9080209@laposte.net> <4AACCE7A.9060604@cathemline.org> In-Reply-To: <4AACCE7A.9060604@cathemline.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200909131313.41928.daniel@cartron.org> X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. Subject: Re: Ecritures batterie X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 11:13:04 -0000 Le dimanche 13 septembre 2009, Martial a =E9crit : > Sauf erreur avec la version "2.13.3" les croches sortent group=E9es 2/2 Merci du tuyau =2D-=20 Cordialement, Daniel Cartron =AB G=E9n=E9ralement les gens demandent des conseils et puis ils ne les sui= vent pas=20 ! =BB Sacha Guitry - Faisons un r=EAve From MAILER-DAEMON Sun Sep 13 07:23:50 2009 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1MmnBO-000742-Ln for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Sep 2009 07:23:50 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MmnBN-00072K-O1 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Sep 2009 07:23:49 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MmnBI-0006nt-N8 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Sep 2009 07:23:48 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=58348 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MmnBH-0006mg-Tm for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Sep 2009 07:23:44 -0400 Received: from smtp20.orange.fr ([193.252.22.31]:57729) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MmnBH-00068V-Gl for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Sep 2009 07:23:43 -0400 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2023.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 6844B200004D for ; Sun, 13 Sep 2009 13:23:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2023.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 5641F20000AC for ; Sun, 13 Sep 2009 13:23:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.102] (ALagny-153-1-96-121.w90-3.abo.wanadoo.fr [90.3.119.121]) by mwinf2023.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id B187A200004D for ; Sun, 13 Sep 2009 13:23:41 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20090913112341727.B187A200004D@mwinf2023.orange.fr Message-ID: <4AACD61C.2070109@cathemline.org> Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 13:23:08 +0200 From: Martial User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org References: <200909111213.10421.daniel@cartron.org> <4AAA7EE6.7060103@free.fr> <200909131153.06243.daniel@cartron.org> <4AACCAF7.9080209@laposte.net> <4AACCE7A.9060604@cathemline.org> In-Reply-To: <4AACCE7A.9060604@cathemline.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. Subject: Re: Ecritures batterie X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 11:23:50 -0000 > Sauf erreur avec la version "2.13.3" les croches sortent group=E9es 2/= 2 Apr=E8s avoir r=E9install=E9 la version 2.10 et tester les 2 versions je confirme le changement avec la version 2.13.3; du coup pour avoir des croches group=E9es par quatre : CrochesParQuatre =3D { #(override-auto-beam-setting '(end * * * *) 1 2 'Score) #(override-auto-beam-setting '(end * * * *) 2 2 'Score) #(override-auto-beam-setting '(end * * * *) 3 2 'Score) } --=20 Martial From MAILER-DAEMON Sun Sep 13 07:27:09 2009 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1MmnEb-0000OH-Cv for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Sep 2009 07:27:09 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MmnEa-0000O4-8o for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Sep 2009 07:27:08 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MmnEU-0000Ns-TM for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Sep 2009 07:27:06 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=59782 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MmnEU-0000Np-Mu for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Sep 2009 07:27:02 -0400 Received: from smtp20.orange.fr ([80.12.242.26]:50282) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MmnEU-0006aG-CE for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Sep 2009 07:27:02 -0400 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2029.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id B8DB91C00088 for ; Sun, 13 Sep 2009 13:27:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2029.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id A94021C0009B for ; Sun, 13 Sep 2009 13:27:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost.localnet (Mix-Lyon-109-3-228.w193-250.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.250.20.228]) by mwinf2029.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 68A4A1C00088 for ; Sun, 13 Sep 2009 13:27:01 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20090913112701428.68A4A1C00088@mwinf2029.orange.fr From: Daniel Cartron To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 13:28:16 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.4 (Linux/2.6.29.1-desktop-4mnb; KDE/4.2.2; i686; ; ) References: <4AACCE7A.9060604@cathemline.org> <4AACD61C.2070109@cathemline.org> In-Reply-To: <4AACD61C.2070109@cathemline.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200909131328.17332.daniel@cartron.org> X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. Subject: Re: Ecritures batterie X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 11:27:08 -0000 Le dimanche 13 septembre 2009, Martial a =E9crit : > Apr=E8s avoir r=E9install=E9 la version 2.10 et tester les 2 versions je > confirme le changement avec la version 2.13.3; T'es trop sympa ! Merci. =2D-=20 Cordialement, Daniel Cartron =AB Si tous ceux qui croient avoir raison n'avaient pas tort, la v=E9rit=E9= ne serait pas loin. =BB Pierre Dac From MAILER-DAEMON Sun Sep 13 10:19:13 2009 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1Mmpv7-0005uM-1g for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Sep 2009 10:19:13 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mmpv5-0005uH-20 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Sep 2009 10:19:11 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mmpuz-0005tt-94 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Sep 2009 10:19:09 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=55273 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Mmpuy-0005tq-TR for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Sep 2009 10:19:04 -0400 Received: from smtp1-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.1]:48118) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Mmpuo-0003we-VS for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Sep 2009 10:19:04 -0400 Received: from smtp1-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp1-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id A739894011F for ; Sun, 13 Sep 2009 16:18:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [88.184.126.48] (gan34-1-88-184-126-48.fbx.proxad.net [88.184.126.48]) by smtp1-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 829D89400AF for ; Sun, 13 Sep 2009 16:18:02 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4AACFF42.4040404@free.fr> Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 16:18:42 +0200 From: Philippe Hezaine User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090629) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lilypond-fr References: <200909111213.10421.daniel@cartron.org> <4AAA7EE6.7060103@free.fr> <200909131153.06243.daniel@cartron.org> In-Reply-To: <200909131153.06243.daniel@cartron.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Subject: Re: Ecritures batterie X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 14:19:11 -0000 Daniel Cartron a =C3=A9crit : > Tu r=C3=A9p=C3=A8tes le tempo dans chaque voix, est-ce n=C3=A9cessaire = ? >=20 Non. Mais en cas de changement de tempo c'est plus facile de se rep=C3=A9= rer. C'est parce que je suis un gros fain=C3=A9ant qui n'=C3=A9crit pas ses nu= m=C3=A9ros de=20 mesures. Ugh! --=20 Phil. From MAILER-DAEMON Mon Sep 14 05:34:01 2009 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1Mn7wf-0001SK-Ix for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Sep 2009 05:34:01 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mn7wd-0001Rv-BF for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Sep 2009 05:33:59 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mn7wX-0001LX-UN for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Sep 2009 05:33:58 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=48146 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Mn7wX-0001LC-NS for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Sep 2009 05:33:53 -0400 Received: from smtp19.orange.fr ([80.12.242.17]:10832) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Mn7wX-0001QS-8p for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Sep 2009 05:33:53 -0400 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1906.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 1A9AE2000067 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 2009 11:33:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1906.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 0B41820002C9 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 2009 11:33:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost.localnet (Mix-Lyon-301-3-62.w193-250.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.250.15.62]) by mwinf1906.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id C9297200005B for ; Mon, 14 Sep 2009 11:33:31 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20090914093331824.C9297200005B@mwinf1906.orange.fr From: Daniel Cartron To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 11:34:34 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.4 (Linux/2.6.29.1-desktop-4mnb; KDE/4.2.2; i686; ; ) References: <4AACCAF7.9080209@laposte.net> <4AACCE7A.9060604@cathemline.org> In-Reply-To: <4AACCE7A.9060604@cathemline.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200909141134.36015.daniel@cartron.org> X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. Subject: Re: Ecritures batterie X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 09:34:00 -0000 Le dimanche 13 septembre 2009, Martial a =E9crit : > Sauf erreur avec la version "2.13.3" les croches sortent group=E9es 2/2 Je pense =E0 un truc, comment sont-elles group=E9es dans le cas d'une mesur= e=20 compos=E9e ? Et si je change de mesure en cours de morceau, par exemple de = 3/4=20 =E0 9/8 est-ce que les groupement suivent ? =2D-=20 Cordialement, Daniel Cartron =AB Je plains celui qui n'a pas =E9t=E9 r=E9volutionnaire =E0 vingt ans : c= 'est qu'il=20 manque de coeur. Je plains celui qui est toujours r=E9volutionnaire =E0 qua= rante=20 ans: c'est qu'il manque de t=EAte. =BB George Bernard Shaw From MAILER-DAEMON Mon Sep 14 13:14:44 2009 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1MnF8W-0002Zk-C0 for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Sep 2009 13:14:44 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MnF8U-0002ZZ-I2 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Sep 2009 13:14:42 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MnF8Q-0002Z9-19 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Sep 2009 13:14:42 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=41240 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MnF8P-0002Z6-Rp for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Sep 2009 13:14:37 -0400 Received: from smtp20.orange.fr ([80.12.242.26]:19784) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MnF8P-0006rm-C1 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Sep 2009 13:14:37 -0400 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2027.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 3B659200005D for ; Mon, 14 Sep 2009 19:14:35 +0200 (CEST) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2027.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 2DC51200004B for ; Mon, 14 Sep 2009 19:14:35 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.102] (ALagny-153-1-96-121.w90-3.abo.wanadoo.fr [90.3.119.121]) by mwinf2027.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 9AB3E200005D for ; Mon, 14 Sep 2009 19:14:34 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20090914171434635.9AB3E200005D@mwinf2027.orange.fr Message-ID: <4AAE79F6.8010102@cathemline.org> Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 19:14:30 +0200 From: Martial User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org References: <4AACCAF7.9080209@laposte.net> <4AACCE7A.9060604@cathemline.org> <200909141134.36015.daniel@cartron.org> In-Reply-To: <200909141134.36015.daniel@cartron.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. Subject: Re: Ecritures batterie X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 17:14:42 -0000 Salut > si je change de mesure en cours de morceau, par exemple de 3/4 > =E0 9/8 est-ce que les groupement suivent ? il suffit d'essayer pour voir 3/4 croche par 2 2x2x2x2 9/8 2x2x2x3 %%------------------------------------------------- CrochesParDeux =3D { #(override-auto-beam-setting '(end * * * *) 1 4 'Score) #(override-auto-beam-setting '(end * * * *) 2 4 'Score) #(override-auto-beam-setting '(end * * * *) 3 4 'Score) } \relative c'{ \time 3/4 \CrochesParDeux c8 c c c c c | c c c c c c | \time 9/8 c8 c c c c c c c c | c c c c c c c c c } %%------------------------------------------------- --=20 Martial From MAILER-DAEMON Tue Sep 15 17:22:59 2009 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1MnfUJ-0003L8-9K for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Sep 2009 17:22:59 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mnf7z-0007JU-VB for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Sep 2009 16:59:56 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mnf7u-0007J6-IO for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Sep 2009 16:59:54 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=56870 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Mnf7u-0007J3-Cp for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Sep 2009 16:59:50 -0400 Received: from mail-ew0-f211.google.com ([209.85.219.211]:56161) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Mnf7t-0003C6-UG for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Sep 2009 16:59:50 -0400 Received: by ewy7 with SMTP id 7so2774642ewy.31 for ; Tue, 15 Sep 2009 13:59:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=9Jm3mrlk3HfyyMnMRV/zVbpFfgy9aZruurvwLVfcq3I=; b=rqNGfwq3PBSuPY3oDgavzsiMwKWlM3m2Rb4qsqz3iVvGAouP2SL+OwJNpFE6OZFjpK wrsCM2G0uvndf1B49GpsgZmL4QcOFFfGFNjrR9487B1ImhA4eLeFMhmCu3mUUHA8SxKj SsrTpW4OLL5pyzhs7B0GUTkxGJgc6ucbpXT8s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=S8aMsjVLJIaaCHCVDr23iPDZkKO7HMzJv6dVkTLmG8h16gSLOcAPN7VaU/wOCUQXfZ qyKktF2GscIDYIIhmlJBCbbypG4fgWTpK+yYVz1QtRIDVma5yBxLSJGp+flLeeHF2Y+A r4fP7lTG6zD8UVZ/8coif9HiX9vhqtfu+MxIo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.211.155.20 with SMTP id h20mr1355387ebo.44.1253048387015; Tue, 15 Sep 2009 13:59:47 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 22:59:47 +0200 Message-ID: <222d64690909151359o75f31179we8b667d016fd64e1@mail.gmail.com> From: Philippe Labat To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00504502ca6afe95980473a40fff X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 17:22:57 -0400 Subject: Impossible lancer .jar dans jEdit + plugin Lilypond X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 20:59:56 -0000 --00504502ca6afe95980473a40fff Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bonjour, J'ai t=E9l=E9charg=E9 sur Macintosh jEdit avec le plugin Lilypond =E0 parti= r de votre site, dans le but d'=E9diter de belles partitions musicales... Apr=E8s avoir g=E9n=E9r=E9 un fichier texte contenant mon premier essai, je= demande =E0 jEdit de lancer Lilypond pour g=E9n=E9rer la partition pdf. Un message me r=E9pond qu'il est impossible de lancer LilyPond ("...LilyPondTool.jar: cannot execute"). LilyPondTool.jar existe bien dans la library de jEdit, dans le dossier "jars". J'ai les versions 5.0 et 6 de Java sur mon syst=E8me Mac OS X 10.5.8... et = ne suis pas sp=E9cialiste de Java (mon but est de faire de la musique!). > Pourriez-vous m'indiquer que faire? Merci d'avance, Philippe Labat --00504502ca6afe95980473a40fff Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bonjour,

J'ai t=E9l=E9charg=E9 sur Macintosh jEdit avec le plugi= n Lilypond =E0 partir de votre site, dans le but d'=E9diter de belles p= artitions musicales...
Apr=E8s avoir g=E9n=E9r=E9 un fichier texte conte= nant mon premier essai, je demande =E0 jEdit de lancer Lilypond pour g=E9n= =E9rer la partition pdf.
Un message me r=E9pond qu'il est impossible de lancer LilyPond (".= ..LilyPondTool.jar: cannot execute").
LilyPondTool.jar existe bien = dans la library de jEdit, dans le dossier "jars".
J'ai les= versions 5.0 et 6 de Java sur mon syst=E8me Mac OS X 10.5.8... et ne suis = pas sp=E9cialiste de Java (mon but est de faire de la musique!).

> Pourriez-vous m'indiquer que faire?

Merci d'avance,=
Philippe Labat
--00504502ca6afe95980473a40fff-- From MAILER-DAEMON Tue Sep 15 19:18:32 2009 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1MnhI8-0000TB-1P for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Sep 2009 19:18:32 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MnhI6-0000RK-2f for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Sep 2009 19:18:30 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MnhI0-0000Jq-Hg for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Sep 2009 19:18:28 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=56050 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MnhI0-0000JR-4x for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Sep 2009 19:18:24 -0400 Received: from mail-ew0-f211.google.com ([209.85.219.211]:34452) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MnhHz-00070n-P7 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Sep 2009 19:18:23 -0400 Received: by ewy7 with SMTP id 7so2858638ewy.31 for ; Tue, 15 Sep 2009 16:18:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=qfA9TSLnI2dWhEWxFGReAlwB5ijOzVvB+SbkBP5SOks=; b=Omvz8f9cxP3Tvvg1RQgVBkg/PuX+Wou6AhJ263Tu02Uzxf/t/saK+c0qGPGoPz2wmk aU96E21gKM2antV1YVmgCOH5v60s4Dmb4McuHE13rPkUZvTUOsfCH78USAxwBe71JRmp T/2GXH9jkdP+EQ07EfUPpDaLDbZjeJovmFIyQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=kVU8xybkkG3zF/rZMylGCEjxM9FWo0rhG9apd71e0DbEpOvuPFfWXTzGl8wIICofXX 2w+5UNGCa8y+qkoajpO9TMOmX8KPozVNazaZPk1Mrl4fn/jD53koQ7WCf2/DRdcVPpjv flvhZoy6pdoY94WHijY8jncoRCSS+uBTnBekc= Received: by 10.211.132.28 with SMTP id j28mr1512915ebn.56.1253056701289; Tue, 15 Sep 2009 16:18:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.5? (245.114-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [81.242.114.245]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 7sm553776eyb.21.2009.09.15.16.18.20 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 15 Sep 2009 16:18:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4AB020B9.2080607@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 01:18:17 +0200 From: Xavier Scheuer User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Philippe Labat References: <222d64690909151359o75f31179we8b667d016fd64e1@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <222d64690909151359o75f31179we8b667d016fd64e1@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) Cc: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Subject: Re: Impossible lancer .jar dans jEdit + plugin Lilypond X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 23:18:30 -0000 Philippe Labat a écrit : > J'ai les versions 5.0 et 6 de Java sur mon système Mac OS X 10.5.8... et > ne suis pas spécialiste de Java (mon but est de faire de la musique!). C'est gentil de donner tes versions de Java et de Mac OS X mais il serait peut-être tout aussi utile de nous donner ta version de jEdit (et, tant qu'on y est, de lilypond et LilyPondTool). ;-) > J'ai téléchargé sur Macintosh jEdit avec le plugin Lilypond à partir > de votre site, dans le but d'éditer de belles partitions musicales... > Après avoir généré un fichier texte contenant mon premier essai, je > demande à jEdit de lancer Lilypond pour générer la partition pdf. > Un message me répond qu'il est impossible de lancer LilyPond > ("...LilyPondTool.jar: cannot execute"). > LilyPondTool.jar existe bien dans la library de jEdit, dans le dossier > "jars". Il est possible que l'emplacement du programme lilypond ne soit pas correct dans les options de LilyPondTool. Dans jEdit, fais "Plugins -> Plugin Options", ensuite "LilyPondTool -> Commandes" et vérifie que l'emplacement de lilypond corresponde bien à ce que tu as sous Mac OS X. Je ne suis pas sous Mac mais d'après ce que j'ai lu ça doit ressembler à "/Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin/". Sinon je te conseille, si ce n'est pas le cas, d'utiliser la dernière version de jEdit (4.3pre17) et d'installer LilyPondTool via le "Plugin Manager" de jEdit (LilyPondTool 2.12.879 normalement), et non de le télécharger et installer manuellement. > et ne suis pas spécialiste de Java (mon but est de faire de la > musique!). > > > Pourriez-vous m'indiquer que faire? > > Merci d'avance, En te souhaitant beaucoup de plaisir avec lilypond, Xavier From MAILER-DAEMON Tue Sep 15 19:44:17 2009 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1Mnhh3-0004nq-Op for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Sep 2009 19:44:17 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mnhh2-0004nh-5h for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Sep 2009 19:44:16 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mnhgw-0004mZ-KJ for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Sep 2009 19:44:14 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=39063 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Mnhgw-0004mV-H1 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Sep 2009 19:44:10 -0400 Received: from mail-ew0-f211.google.com ([209.85.219.211]:64799) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Mnhgw-0004aS-5L for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Sep 2009 19:44:10 -0400 Received: by ewy7 with SMTP id 7so2869986ewy.31 for ; Tue, 15 Sep 2009 16:44:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=uj+xlL4vkfmvt5F6oxPUJlNKkgiE/TBsqaAfcuECW+w=; b=UkSFLIO7L3C6PO4Xb/l7rHZSa9lQWFIHMWV73EybbkVohuLKfN67seuMWpxxS2+ps8 ijSIUtp1cCFXunlRXncUGPfCpyPWzsdwIv4dbW4ItMAqPrxlhKgmhrRz6p9DE1Svyy8h xjwRh5bTdt2rFs/KbcaK07cwHG0CeyJLc3lNw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=hDf1c6zQ421hh5kzQc5+9SbcTnK9xzXk9oMKrmNA1MF9bZ7Y8OMRlmcLZP8Y+ldgi6 5+dM/U9ZxM2X/0XdtWvc9edb1qSTbjyQE8tYedx34qImtHLX7qfN9fsqhQzELc3A9kZz aHT9WgINZlTQ2HaXWos2Zs5f62PNyY2xFqsCk= Received: by 10.210.106.12 with SMTP id e12mr9155810ebc.11.1253058249092; Tue, 15 Sep 2009 16:44:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.5? (245.114-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [81.242.114.245]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 5sm1412889eyf.41.2009.09.15.16.44.07 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 15 Sep 2009 16:44:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4AB026C4.3050109@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 01:44:04 +0200 From: Xavier Scheuer User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: legoss References: <1251205859747-3509641.post@n2.nabble.com> <5EABE726-EA34-4DBE-BDFA-4A1260EC4D62@wanadoo.fr> <4A940849.5020903@cathemline.org> <1252596121625-3617608.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <1252596121625-3617608.post@n2.nabble.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) Cc: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Subject: Re: lilypondtool introuvable X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 23:44:16 -0000 Ma réponse presque une semaine plus tard... legoss a écrit : > 'jour à tous. > J'ai suivi ces précieux conseils avec jedit_4.3pre17_all.deb (ben oui, > j'essaie ubuntu). > Mais toujours rien. Sniff... :-( LilyPondTool est bien présent dans jedit 4.3pre17 sous Ubuntu chez moi. Peut-être avais-tu déjà installé LilyPondTool (dans ce cas il n'est plus dans l'onglet "Install" mais "Manage"). Enfin je suppose que c'est résolu... Bien à vous tous, Xavier From MAILER-DAEMON Wed Sep 16 01:20:41 2009 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1Mnmwb-0004sy-4u for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Sep 2009 01:20:41 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MnmwY-0004rh-1F for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Sep 2009 01:20:38 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MnmwT-0004rL-EL for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Sep 2009 01:20:37 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=46091 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MnmwT-0004rF-61 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Sep 2009 01:20:33 -0400 Received: from 216-139-250-150.aus.us.siteprotect.com ([216.139.250.150]:2613 helo=joe) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MnmwS-0007qK-RF for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Sep 2009 01:20:33 -0400 Received: from joe ([127.0.0.1]) by joe with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 16 Sep 2009 00:20:31 -0500 Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 00:20:30 -0500 (CDT) From: legoss To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Message-ID: <1253078430921-3654197.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <4AB026C4.3050109@gmail.com> References: <1251205859747-3509641.post@n2.nabble.com> <5EABE726-EA34-4DBE-BDFA-4A1260EC4D62@wanadoo.fr> <4A940849.5020903@cathemline.org> <1252596121625-3617608.post@n2.nabble.com> <4AB026C4.3050109@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Nabble-From: laurent.escolier@aliceadsl.fr X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Sep 2009 05:20:31.0015 (UTC) FILETIME=[68CEC370:01CA368D] X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Windows 2000 SP4, XP SP1+ Subject: Re: lilypondtool introuvable X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 05:20:38 -0000 Xavier Scheuer wrote: >=20 > Peut-=C3=AAtre avais-tu d=C3=A9j=C3=A0 install=C3=A9 LilyPondTool (dans c= e cas il n'est plus=20 > dans l'onglet "Install" mais "Manage"). >=20 Ben non... Je n'y comprends rien. J'ai souvent install=C3=A9 Lilypond et jE= dit apr=C3=A8s restauration du syst=C3=A8me, =C3=A7a ne m'=C3=A9tait jamais arr= iv=C3=A9. L=C3=A0, que ce soit sous vista ou sous Ubuntu, lors d'une premi=C3=A8re installation, la ligne LilyPondTool dans jEdit est absente. Je vais faire un autre essai avec une uSbuntu, sur laquelle LilyPondTool ne sera pas encore install=C3=A9. Pour l'instant potage donc... Pour ceux que cela int=C3=A9resse :=20 http://www.slym.fr/?p=3D113 --=20 View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/lilypondtool-introuvable= -tp3509641p3654197.html Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. 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(245.114-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [81.242.114.245]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 5sm175980eyf.17.2009.09.16.14.25.04 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 16 Sep 2009 14:25:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4AB157AE.60004@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 23:25:02 +0200 From: Xavier Scheuer User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Philippe Labat References: <222d64690909151359o75f31179we8b667d016fd64e1@mail.gmail.com> <4AB020B9.2080607@gmail.com> <222d64690909160055n4e123d51g72e81dc2b9be1a10@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <222d64690909160055n4e123d51g72e81dc2b9be1a10@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) Cc: lilypondeurs Subject: Re: Impossible lancer .jar dans jEdit + plugin Lilypond X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 21:25:13 -0000 Philippe Labat a écrit : > Bonjour, > > Grand merci pour ta réponse rapide. Hop, avec la liste en copie au cas où d'autres auraient le même problème ou, plus intéressant, au cas où d'autres auraient la solution. ;-D > J'ai les versions de jEdit et LilyPond Tool indiquées dans ton message > (i.e. 4.3pre17 et 2.12.879). > J'ai installé LilyPondTool à partir du Plugin Manager de jEdit. > Mais il n'y avait pas trace de LilyPond.app dans le dossier > Applications... j'ai donc installé en plus (j'avais oublié) la version > 2.12.2-1 à partir du site LilyPond, l'ai placée dans le dossier > Applications et indiqué son chemin d'accès /Applications dans les > Plugins Options. Ah, c'est sûr que si tu n'avais pas installé le logiciel LilyPond, il était normal que jEdit/LilyPondTool ne puisse pas le lancer et donc ne génère pas la partition en pdf. LilyPondTool est juste un plugin qui te permet d'éditer plus facilement tes fichiers .ly avec jEdit (via la coloration syntaxique, la complétion des commandes, les modèles, ...). Il ne "contient" pas le logiciel LilyPond, auquel il fait appel pour générer le pdf. > On progresse... mais ça ne marche pas encore: jEdit me dit "... > LilyPond.app: cannot execute". > Quand je lance LilyPond directement en cliquant sur son icône, elle se > lance, m'ouvre un fichier test, qui me demande de sélectionner la > commande "Compile" dans le menu. Mais il n'y a pas de menu déroulant > associé au menu LilyPond qui apparaît à côté du menu Pomme du Mac. Comme dit dans le message précédent je ne suis pas sous Mac, et donc je me retrouve bien démuni pour t'aider pour les étapes suivantes. Autant sous Windows ou Linux je sais installer et utiliser LilyPond, autant je n'ai jamais eu de Mac et mes ressources dans ce domaine sont pour ainsi dire nulles : j'ignore comment on installe un logiciel sous Mac OS X, s'il y a une console (un terminal), comment se présente LilyPond sous Mac... Je n'ai pas compris l'histoire du menu déroulant quand tu cliques sur l'icône de LilyPond. Peut-être que ce serait plus clair avec une capture d'écran mais je pense que c'est plutôt spécifique à lilypond sous Mac. Si tu cliques sur un fichier .ly il se passe quoi ? LilyPond se lance et génère le pdf ? Je dirais que soit lilypond est mal installé, soit c'est jEdit via le plugin LilyPondTool qui ne sait pas l'invoquer (problème de droit ou de configuration de l'emplacement). Ce que je ferais à ta place c'est tout désinstaller complètement (en supprimant les fichiers de configuration), puis réinstaller dans l'ordre suivant : - d'abord LilyPond (la dernière version en développement est 'clickable' pour Mac OS X, j'ignore ce que ça veut dire) ; - ensuite jEdit ; - et enfin LilyPondTool via le "Plugins Manager", en espérant que lors de l'installation de ce dernier il détecte "automatiquement" le chemin du programme lilypond (sous Mac OS X)... > > Peux-tu m'aider pour les étapes suivantes? -- j'ai hâte de voir ma > première partition! Jette peut-être un coup d'œil (si ce n'est déjà fait) à cette page qui reprend des infos concernant lilypond sur Mac OS X : http://ivo.bouwmans.name/lilypondleopard/ Sinon attends qu'un utilisateur de la pomme passe par ici ou essaie de contacter la liste anglophone où tu devrais avoir plus de chances d'obtenir des réponses à ton problème actuel. Je suis désolé, c'est tout ce que je peux faire pour t'aider en ce moment. Cela dit, n'hésite pas à venir frapper à la porte si tu as des problèmes/questions lors de la création de tes partitions. Lilypondement, Xavier From MAILER-DAEMON Wed Sep 16 17:36:59 2009 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1Mo2BP-0007xq-7R for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Sep 2009 17:36:59 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mo2BN-0007xf-Ra for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Sep 2009 17:36:57 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mo2BJ-0007xF-MI for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Sep 2009 17:36:57 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=55657 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Mo2BJ-0007xC-HA for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Sep 2009 17:36:53 -0400 Received: from mail-ew0-f211.google.com ([209.85.219.211]:37006) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Mo2BI-00039O-P8 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Sep 2009 17:36:53 -0400 Received: by ewy7 with SMTP id 7so3725650ewy.31 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 2009 14:36:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=UxPxR4K3zrbSLp4l3DqtmhSIRnlyeeJ+ponKUOgsiYo=; b=I/NOrbGWSujV5fE9WfVHtEiP+wFG5zdxEt6/AD1T5MNw+12Z0hmSMy4bzDy4zW4zGZ YiCvELAT68q4JI1kSF/vywpqOdOvhP1bSOne55a465xSAwwQ1qLObQYCqPU5BC6qx5tQ 6kBALV2rAJryG/cwNCnyUXIWaK9ukMSHjfWw8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=fCbT8N+fzBZ7q5PHlWa4wWe4CQ+1HEgK2ioN3Mx6NcmLVMQbphMhr5jHLVJq59ilLC G5DkkScWMifenBEgy+pX0lOdu6MQcQ61YHFHZMZqm5F4mQLr72AVeBk780Ufb6iObm1b WjQWnc5/ZN562HF7YrTSmDTy7YWIYzq6IxruQ= Received: by 10.211.161.16 with SMTP id n16mr10762049ebo.20.1253137009199; Wed, 16 Sep 2009 14:36:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.5? (245.114-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [81.242.114.245]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 7sm100491eyg.6.2009.09.16.14.36.43 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 16 Sep 2009 14:36:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4AB15A6A.2090903@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 23:36:42 +0200 From: Xavier Scheuer User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Philippe Labat References: <222d64690909151359o75f31179we8b667d016fd64e1@mail.gmail.com> <4AB020B9.2080607@gmail.com> <222d64690909160055n4e123d51g72e81dc2b9be1a10@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <222d64690909160055n4e123d51g72e81dc2b9be1a10@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) Cc: lilypondeurs Subject: Re: Impossible lancer .jar dans jEdit + plugin Lilypond X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 21:36:58 -0000 Je viens de relire ton message et j'ai également, par curiosité, téléchargé les archives 2.12.2-1 et 2.13.3-0 de LilyPond pour Mac OS X pour voir à quoi ça ressemblait à l'intérieur. Je suis pris d'un doute / j'ai peut-être trouvé la solution : Philippe Labat a écrit : > Mais il n'y avait pas trace de LilyPond.app dans le dossier > Applications... j'ai donc installé en plus (j'avais oublié) la version > 2.12.2-1 à partir du site LilyPond, l'ai placée dans le dossier > Applications et indiqué son chemin d'accès /Applications dans les > Plugins Options. Le chemin d'accès de LilyPond que tu as indiqué dans les options de LilyPondTool ("Plugin Options"), c'est "/Applications" ? Si oui essaie un peu "/Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin/", comme je l'avais indiqué dans mon premier message. Ensuite prends un fichier .ly quelconque, ouvre-le avec jEdit et essaie de le compiler avec LilyPondTool. Voila, j'espère que c'était "simplement ça". Good luck, Xavier From MAILER-DAEMON Wed Sep 16 17:51:59 2009 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1Mo2Pv-0005Td-GH for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Sep 2009 17:51:59 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mo2Pt-0005Si-Td for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Sep 2009 17:51:57 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mo2Pp-0005Pt-Cm for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Sep 2009 17:51:57 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=60327 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Mo2Po-0005Pk-W2 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Sep 2009 17:51:53 -0400 Received: from mail-ew0-f211.google.com ([209.85.219.211]:41663) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Mo2Po-00057m-Eb for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Sep 2009 17:51:52 -0400 Received: by ewy7 with SMTP id 7so3735600ewy.31 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 2009 14:51:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=LSHGhBMwZ94JJ8KJUomMxWuSGFK3ZpsL7cBbBgUntCA=; b=nFFJ6cChN0HsO808ofV5tCEFstbAIyXYDw5jRBhWPgSnVxBWkmEpodfqNPLGcRlwVg KZCS/L7Cf7bgpYypHUg5BYdnTvHNj+bvnV5lQe+dfsLmdZkBsR/zRnsY5QLorbpuISgx eweyhDb/bkjJuz95XMjSS7MXdstNpxzwRiyKk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=AmoY1MMtCdmr0CenHKKBbA09lM45ipob3+HRvoU0nGmn9BaueS8lMmo0VoiryKGA95 eyZoPO/OcTPk0mz7NWYlTrXGml0BXecVY2hrgXUZLQ7Gwj7ndN4mHd/fjNpcw0x8OIpk BQIIM3NMkdmYOYfOWpWmb3uZrLnjg5gfTNMps= Received: by 10.210.101.7 with SMTP id y7mr10502407ebb.99.1253137911279; Wed, 16 Sep 2009 14:51:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.5? (245.114-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [81.242.114.245]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 10sm747414eyd.40.2009.09.16.14.51.48 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 16 Sep 2009 14:51:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4AB15DF2.6050004@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 23:51:46 +0200 From: Xavier Scheuer User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: legoss References: <1251205859747-3509641.post@n2.nabble.com> <5EABE726-EA34-4DBE-BDFA-4A1260EC4D62@wanadoo.fr> <4A940849.5020903@cathemline.org> <1252596121625-3617608.post@n2.nabble.com> <4AB026C4.3050109@gmail.com> <1253078430921-3654197.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <1253078430921-3654197.post@n2.nabble.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) Cc: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Subject: Re: lilypondtool introuvable X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 21:51:58 -0000 legoss a écrit : > Ben non... Je n'y comprends rien. J'ai souvent installé Lilypond et jEdit > après restauration du système, ça ne m'était jamais arrivé. Là, que ce soit > sous vista ou sous Ubuntu, lors d'une première installation, la ligne > LilyPondTool dans jEdit est absente. Euh... Quand tu dis "la ligne LilyPondTool dans jEdit est absente", tu veux dire que la "barre d'outils" LilyPondTool est absente ? "lors d'une première utilisation", tu veux dire lorsque tu ouvres jEdit seul (i.e. pas ouvrir un fichier .ly avec jEdit) ? Si oui, c'est normal, c'est pareil chez moi aussi (sous Win XP et Ubuntu). Il faut ouvrir un fichier .ly ou, dans jEdit, enregistrer ton fichier avec l'extension .ly pour que la barre d'outils LilyPondTool apparaisse. Sinon je suppose quand même que LilyPondTool doit quand même être présent dans le menu "Plugins", dans "Plugin Manager" "Install", "Manage" ou "Update"... Ou alors j'ai rien compris à ton problème. :-p Xavier From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Sep 17 18:05:14 2009 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1MoP6I-00072c-12 for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 17 Sep 2009 18:05:14 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MoP6H-00072X-He for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 17 Sep 2009 18:05:13 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MoP6D-00072L-0g for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 17 Sep 2009 18:05:13 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=53242 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MoP6C-00072I-Ue for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 17 Sep 2009 18:05:08 -0400 Received: from mail-ew0-f211.google.com ([209.85.219.211]:64285) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MoP6C-0006hf-DY for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 17 Sep 2009 18:05:08 -0400 Received: by ewy7 with SMTP id 7so816958ewy.31 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 2009 15:05:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ArbaXEdF4LIav1K4xwfMjqotWOZ5InmEPoNeJF0A/WY=; b=sCMGuLzHPgHSWgVEvDbiFGRe82IiUwsQkDzghx/MYcGB4ljpkKa5ak2Fj7KmSTQfie hJ+NDxsMf59S+ev2xMzV75QM3fcGbOMSAV+/qMb8p+y//Np50Husj58iR9k1xYm4WRvJ v61JBItY+L94ILjicxbzJMo9MnjGDihbc9zYA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=uvmwcOiqfhGumvBrXmXCUsfB+EbrHL6fpImDEBnipvNll6nyTnFlCrwKdrW1AGO/CW bMZIgyqlijpp1q7Bv6wpPGTI0j7ZEMeNf2Hwxx278EWO7gY0H+lNHvQj1R1V7fbR3lDq BoA+Vo6COMtEcQVuh2XvYI48GyEvCS9DY9yGk= Received: by 10.211.132.28 with SMTP id j28mr261194ebn.56.1253225103245; Thu, 17 Sep 2009 15:05:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.5? (5.54-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [81.242.54.5]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 28sm3155466eye.38.2009.09.17.15.05.01 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 17 Sep 2009 15:05:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4AB2B28B.5040404@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 00:04:59 +0200 From: Xavier Scheuer User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Philippe Labat References: <222d64690909151359o75f31179we8b667d016fd64e1@mail.gmail.com> <4AB020B9.2080607@gmail.com> <222d64690909160055n4e123d51g72e81dc2b9be1a10@mail.gmail.com> <4AB15A6A.2090903@gmail.com> <222d64690909171356k54b82c30k591aedcce416ff68@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <222d64690909171356k54b82c30k591aedcce416ff68@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) Cc: lilypondeurs Subject: Re: Impossible lancer .jar dans jEdit + plugin Lilypond X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 22:05:13 -0000 Bonsoir, Pour les prochains mails que tu envoies via la liste de diffusion, essaie de penser à mettre lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org en copie (ou simplement faire un "répondre à tous"), comme ça les autres abonnés de la liste peuvent également suivre la discussion et l'évolution de ton problème. De plus, de cette manière, les messages seront consultables via les archives de la liste et pourront peut-être à l'avenir être utiles dans le cas ou quelqu'un se retrouverait confronté au même problème. Philippe Labat a écrit : > Bonsoir, > > Bingo, c'était "simplement ça". > Je viens donc de voir les premières notes d'une gamme s'afficher dans > la visualisation pdf de LilyPond, super! Ah, ben content que ton problème soit résolu. Ce n'était pas si compliqué finalement. > Je n'aurais pas pu deviner, car "LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin" > (sans le dernier "slash" d'ailleurs) n'apparaît pas comme un sous > dossier de /Applications sur le Mac (mystère). > Il ne me reste plus qu'à trouver comment j'arrive à sauvegarder ce pdf > quelque part, mais je devrais y arriver avec la documentation en > ligne. Normalement ce pdf se trouve dans le même répertoire, là où tu as sauvegardé ton fichier .ly. Puisque Mac OS X fait partie de la famille des systèmes d'exploitation UNIX il doit comporter un terminal. Tu peux donc invoquer lilypond en ligne de commande. Ainsi via l'option --output=FILE (ou, plus court -o FILE) tu peux définir le nom et l'emplacement du fichier de sortie (pdf). Ainsi la commande lilypond -o /dossier1/dossier2/nomchoisi nomfichier.ly te donnera un fichier nomchoisi.pdf dans /dossier1/dossier2 C'est dans la documentation (en anglais) ici : http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/user/lilypond-program/Command_002dline-usage Cela dit, le plus simple pour quelqu'un qui débute est peut-être de tout faire via jEdit/LilyPondTool et de renommer/déplacer le pdf par après, via ton gestionnaire de fichier. > Encore merci pour ton support, De rien, ce fut un plaisir. > cordialement, > Philippe De même, Xavier From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Sep 18 02:49:47 2009 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1MoXHv-00061T-LM for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Sep 2009 02:49:47 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MoXHu-000600-5L for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Sep 2009 02:49:46 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MoXHp-0005vk-FU for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Sep 2009 02:49:45 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=59177 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MoXHp-0005vP-AG for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Sep 2009 02:49:41 -0400 Received: from kuber.nabble.com ([216.139.236.158]:39389) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MoXHo-00088z-RA for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Sep 2009 02:49:41 -0400 Received: from tervel.nabble.com ([192.168.236.150]) by kuber.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1MoXHl-0008RY-V7 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 17 Sep 2009 23:49:37 -0700 Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 23:49:37 -0700 (PDT) From: legoss To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Message-ID: <1253256577961-3667870.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <4AB15DF2.6050004@gmail.com> References: <1251205859747-3509641.post@n2.nabble.com> <5EABE726-EA34-4DBE-BDFA-4A1260EC4D62@wanadoo.fr> <4A940849.5020903@cathemline.org> <1252596121625-3617608.post@n2.nabble.com> <4AB026C4.3050109@gmail.com> <1253078430921-3654197.post@n2.nabble.com> <4AB15DF2.6050004@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Nabble-From: laurent.escolier@aliceadsl.fr X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Subject: Re: lilypondtool introuvable X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 06:49:46 -0000 Xavier Scheuer wrote: >=20 > Ou alors j'ai rien compris =C3=A0 ton probl=C3=A8me. :-p >=20 Bon, si tu n'as pas compris, c'est s=C3=BBrement que j'ai mal expliqu=C3=A9= . Voil=C3=A0 comment je proc=C3=A8de d'habitude pour cr=C3=A9er de belles partitions ave= c Lilypond. (NB : je ne fais les installations et les r=C3=A9glages qu'une seule fois != Je tourne en rond, mais faut pas pousser... :drunk:) 1 - t=C3=A9l=C3=A9chargement et installation de Lilypond (pas bien compliqu= =C3=A9) 2 - t=C3=A9l=C3=A9chargement et installation de jEdit (pas la mer =C3=A0 bo= ire... heureusement !). 3 - ouverture de jEdit et installation de LilyponTool sans aucun probl=C3= =A8me, et quelle que soit la version de jEdit utilis=C3=A9e dans Plugins\Plugin manager\Install\LilypondTool\Install. 4 - r=C3=A9glages des options des plugins 5 - plugins\LilypondTool\Partition\Assistant de cr=C3=A9ation de partition 6 - Ecriture de la partion, et g=C3=A9n=C3=A9ration du pdf qui va bien. J'ai toujours fait comme =C3=A7a et c'est la 1=C3=A8re fois que jEdit ne me= donne pas LilyponTool dans Plugins\Plugin manager\Install\LilypondTool\Install. Est-c= e que la proc=C3=A9dure n'est pas la bonne ? Est-ce Alzheimer qui guette ? Su= is-je un extra-terrestre ? Ou bien jEdit qui fait des siennes ? :confused: En esp=C3=A9rant avoir =C3=A9t=C3=A9 plus clair... Merrrci ben --=20 View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/lilypondtool-introuvable= -tp3509641p3667870.html Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. 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(VPS 090917-0, 17/09/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. Cc: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Subject: Re: lilypondtool introuvable X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 09:40:54 -0000 legoss a =C3=A9crit : > Xavier Scheuer wrote: > =20 >> Ou alors j'ai rien compris =C3=A0 ton probl=C3=A8me. :-p >> >> =20 > Bon, si tu n'as pas compris, c'est s=C3=BBrement que j'ai mal expliqu=C3= =A9. Voil=C3=A0 > comment je proc=C3=A8de d'habitude pour cr=C3=A9er de belles partitions= avec Lilypond. > (NB : je ne fais les installations et les r=C3=A9glages qu'une seule fo= is ! Je > tourne en rond, mais faut pas pousser... :drunk:) > 1 - t=C3=A9l=C3=A9chargement et installation de Lilypond (pas bien comp= liqu=C3=A9) > =20 ......................................................................... > J'ai toujours fait comme =C3=A7a et c'est la 1=C3=A8re fois que jEdit n= e me donne pas > LilyponTool dans Plugins\Plugin manager\Install\LilypondTool\Install. E= st-ce > que la proc=C3=A9dure n'est pas la bonne ? Est-ce Alzheimer qui guette = ? Suis-je > un extra-terrestre ? Ou bien jEdit qui fait des siennes ? :confused: > > En esp=C3=A9rant avoir =C3=A9t=C3=A9 plus clair... > Merrrci ben > =20 > =20 Lors de ma derni=C3=A8re installation sur Vista, il faut charger un fichi= er=20 lilypond ou en cr=C3=A9er un pour voir apparaitre les menus Lilypondtool. 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Cc: Philippe Labat Subject: Re: Impossible lancer .jar dans jEdit + plugin Lilypond X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 11:07:38 -0000 Bonjour, Comme je suis un vieil habitu=E9 du mac, je peu essayer de r=E9pondre = aux =20 diverses questions relatives au mac. > > Je n'aurais pas pu deviner, car "LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/=20 > bin" en fait, MacOS cache un grand nombre de fichiers : les fichiers qui se =20= terminent en ".app' et beaucoup d'autres ne sont pas des vrais =20 fichiers mais des dossiers. Pour naviguer dans le contenu, il faut faire un clic droit + "Afficher =20= le contenu du paquet" ; on obtient une nouvelle fen=EAtre avec tous les =20= fichiers. > Puisque Mac OS X fait partie de la famille des syst=E8mes =20 > d'exploitation UNIX il doit comporter un terminal. Tu peux donc =20 > invoquer lilypond en ligne de commande. C'est exact, mais le chemin d'acc=E8s vers lilypond n'est pas connu par =20= le syst=E8me. Pour utiliser la ligne de commande, utilisez le Terminal (dans =20 Applications/Utilitaires) Pour le chemin d'acc=E8s, cela d=E9pend de l'interpr=E9teur de commande =20= utilis=E9. Je crois que par d=E9faut, c'est bash et la commande =E0 = mettre =20 au d=E9but du terminal est : export PATH=3D/Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin:$PATH et lilypond sera reconnu dans les commandes qui suivent. La commande =20 peut =EAtre plac=E9e dans un fichier invisible .profile dans ton dossier = =20 utilisateur pour qu'on ait plus besoin de la taper. pour se d=E9placer dans le syst=E8me de fichiers la commande est cd "mon = =20 dossier" pour lister les fichiers dans le dossier courant, la commande est ls pour avoir le d=E9tail d'une commande, utiliser man "nom de la =20 commande" , par exemple : man ls Le monde de la ligne de commande est infini, mais il vaut mieux passer =20= son permis avant... > > Quand je lance LilyPond directement en cliquant sur son ic=F4ne, =20 > elle se > > lance, m'ouvre un fichier test, qui me demande de s=E9lectionner la > > commande "Compile" dans le menu. Mais il n'y a pas de menu d=E9roulant= > > associ=E9 au menu LilyPond qui appara=EEt =E0 c=F4t=E9 du menu Pomme = du Mac. L=E0, c'est un gros bug dans une librairie qui n'a pas l'air d'=EAtre =20= support=E9 pour le Mac. C'est pas grave parce que Jedit fait tout =20 beaucoup mieux. @+, Pascal Le 18 sept. 09 =E0 00:04, Xavier Scheuer a =E9crit : > > Bonsoir, > > Pour les prochains mails que tu envoies via la liste de diffusion, =20 > essaie de penser =E0 mettre lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org en copie (ou =20 > simplement faire un "r=E9pondre =E0 tous"), comme =E7a les autres = abonn=E9s =20 > de la liste peuvent =E9galement suivre la discussion et l'=E9volution = de =20 > ton probl=E8me. > De plus, de cette mani=E8re, les messages seront consultables via les =20= > archives de la liste et pourront peut-=EAtre =E0 l'avenir =EAtre = utiles =20 > dans le cas ou quelqu'un se retrouverait confront=E9 au m=EAme = probl=E8me. > > > Philippe Labat a =E9crit : >> Bonsoir, >> Bingo, c'=E9tait "simplement =E7a". > > Je viens donc de voir les premi=E8res notes d'une gamme s'afficher =20= > dans > la visualisation pdf de LilyPond, super! > > Ah, ben content que ton probl=E8me soit r=E9solu. Ce n'=E9tait pas si =20= > compliqu=E9 finalement. > > > Je n'aurais pas pu deviner, car "LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/=20 > bin" > > (sans le dernier "slash" d'ailleurs) n'appara=EEt pas comme un sous > > dossier de /Applications sur le Mac (myst=E8re). > > Il ne me reste plus qu'=E0 trouver comment j'arrive =E0 sauvegarder = ce =20 > pdf > > quelque part, mais je devrais y arriver avec la documentation en > > ligne. > > Normalement ce pdf se trouve dans le m=EAme r=E9pertoire, l=E0 o=F9 tu = as =20 > sauvegard=E9 ton fichier .ly. > > Puisque Mac OS X fait partie de la famille des syst=E8mes =20 > d'exploitation UNIX il doit comporter un terminal. Tu peux donc =20 > invoquer lilypond en ligne de commande. Ainsi via l'option --=20 > output=3DFILE (ou, plus court -o FILE) tu peux d=E9finir le nom et =20 > l'emplacement du fichier de sortie (pdf). Ainsi la commande > > lilypond -o /dossier1/dossier2/nomchoisi nomfichier.ly > > te donnera un fichier nomchoisi.pdf dans /dossier1/dossier2 > > C'est dans la documentation (en anglais) ici : = http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/user/lilypond-program/Command_= 002dline-usage > > Cela dit, le plus simple pour quelqu'un qui d=E9bute est peut-=EAtre = de =20 > tout faire via jEdit/LilyPondTool et de renommer/d=E9placer le pdf par = =20 > apr=E8s, via ton gestionnaire de fichier. > > > Encore merci pour ton support, > De rien, ce fut un plaisir. > > > cordialement, > > Philippe > De m=EAme, > Xavier > > > _______________________________________________ > liste de diffusion lilypond-user-fr > lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user-fr > From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Sep 18 07:21:08 2009 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1MobWV-0004Nk-P2 for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Sep 2009 07:21:07 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MobWS-0004Mm-Su for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Sep 2009 07:21:04 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MobWN-0004Lh-Th for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Sep 2009 07:21:04 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=36208 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MobWN-0004Ld-Qe for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Sep 2009 07:20:59 -0400 Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com ([72.14.220.154]:26653) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MobWN-0007HZ-CQ for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Sep 2009 07:20:59 -0400 Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id e21so189237fga.12 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 2009 04:20:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:cc:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-mailer; bh=HXNaPIk13s1viD8MXMGz0okbwdO/JWOdCMHwvJcVm3U=; b=DDvrEDVRaMvdhSprItS4QY5NE/oyHomnMd8xjqED/wUjowBpHZQmZPOuRw+qnaie6X Xq0BvGqIldvE0SIOIPdGIIoEiZWsW+l+1DN1waFkZeK2QLf091wup66V/qBEJeAMdpeN HeqFQ9oLsJoq6JCR8KDIVi6wnQ7YNm4tZo3p4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=cc:message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type:mime-version:subject :date:references:x-mailer; b=nhKjtKt+i3N1VIWaTQtlAKoTLgEK5OIbdcgER7ZftgBZuF6gZx7ASokcgbe0PAOD10 NfzURcQDowlcti57/xuRNH40ZFMxEfy1dW030uZEXjLlJY9P+vqgAGfAG7XJQvyjZx1l pqa/sx2ILq4scNTftN5q3ekY5tlBVd4DnRT3I= Received: by 10.86.243.15 with SMTP id q15mr1655321fgh.21.1253272856899; Fri, 18 Sep 2009 04:20:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?147.94.64.241? ([147.94.64.241]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e20sm1679462fga.12.2009.09.18.04.20.55 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 18 Sep 2009 04:20:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <7E32C5C0-71E3-4B5F-A582-B429A60F0D79@gmail.com> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=C9douard_Gilbert?= To: Pascal Legris In-Reply-To: <18B89BC0-D97E-4333-851B-288B357E792C@wanadoo.fr> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=Apple-Mail-274-87742604 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 13:20:49 +0200 References: <222d64690909151359o75f31179we8b667d016fd64e1@mail.gmail.com> <4AB020B9.2080607@gmail.com> <222d64690909160055n4e123d51g72e81dc2b9be1a10@mail.gmail.com> <4AB15A6A.2090903@gmail.com> <222d64690909171356k54b82c30k591aedcce416ff68@mail.gmail.com> <4AB2B28B.5040404@gmail.com> <18B89BC0-D97E-4333-851B-288B357E792C@wanadoo.fr> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) Cc: lilypondeurs , Philippe Labat Subject: Re: Impossible lancer .jar dans jEdit + plugin Lilypond X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 11:21:05 -0000 --Apple-Mail-274-87742604 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Le 18 sept. 09 =E0 13:07, Pascal Legris a =E9crit : > Bonjour, > Comme je suis un vieil habitu=E9 du mac, je peu essayer de r=E9pondre =20= > aux diverses questions relatives au mac. > >> > Je n'aurais pas pu deviner, car "LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/=20= >> bin" > > en fait, MacOS cache un grand nombre de fichiers : les fichiers qui =20= > se terminent en ".app' et beaucoup d'autres ne sont pas des vrais =20 > fichiers mais des dossiers. > Pour naviguer dans le contenu, il faut faire un clic droit + =20 > "Afficher le contenu du paquet" ; on obtient une nouvelle fen=EAtre =20= > avec tous les fichiers. > >> Puisque Mac OS X fait partie de la famille des syst=E8mes =20 >> d'exploitation UNIX il doit comporter un terminal. Tu peux donc =20 >> invoquer lilypond en ligne de commande. > > C'est exact, mais le chemin d'acc=E8s vers lilypond n'est pas connu =20= > par le syst=E8me. > Pour utiliser la ligne de commande, utilisez le Terminal (dans =20 > Applications/Utilitaires) > Pour le chemin d'acc=E8s, cela d=E9pend de l'interpr=E9teur de = commande =20 > utilis=E9. Je crois que par d=E9faut, c'est bash et la commande =E0 = mettre =20 > au d=E9but du terminal est : > export PATH=3D/Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin:$PATH Plus simplement, on peut aussi appeler Lilypond avec le chemin d=92acc=E8s= =20 complet. Plut=F4t que de taper lilypond fichier.ly taper /Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin/lilypond fichier.ly Mieux encore, d=E9finir un alias pour lilypond avec la commande : alias lilypond=3D/Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin/=20 lilypond que l=92on peut =E9galement ajouter =E0 son .profile (ou son .aliases). Bien s=FBr, si l=92on ce sert d=92autres utilitaires que lilypond comme =20= lilypondbook ou un truc du genre, compl=E9ter le $PATH est aussi simple. > et lilypond sera reconnu dans les commandes qui suivent. La commande =20= > peut =EAtre plac=E9e dans un fichier invisible .profile dans ton = dossier =20 > utilisateur pour qu'on ait plus besoin de la taper. > > pour se d=E9placer dans le syst=E8me de fichiers la commande est cd = "mon =20 > dossier" > pour lister les fichiers dans le dossier courant, la commande est ls > pour avoir le d=E9tail d'une commande, utiliser man "nom de la =20 > commande" , par exemple : man ls > Le monde de la ligne de commande est infini, mais il vaut mieux =20 > passer son permis avant... > > >> > Quand je lance LilyPond directement en cliquant sur son ic=F4ne, =20= >> elle se >> > lance, m'ouvre un fichier test, qui me demande de s=E9lectionner = la >> > commande "Compile" dans le menu. Mais il n'y a pas de menu =20 >> d=E9roulant >> > associ=E9 au menu LilyPond qui appara=EEt =E0 c=F4t=E9 du menu = Pomme du Mac. > > L=E0, c'est un gros bug dans une librairie qui n'a pas l'air d'=EAtre =20= > support=E9 pour le Mac. C'est pas grave parce que Jedit fait tout =20 > beaucoup mieux. Je trouve jEdit assez insupportable sous Mac OS. Il ne s=92int=E8gre pas = =20 du tout dans mon environnement de travail. Je me dis encore qu=92un =20 jour, je tenterai de relancer le bundle LilyPond de TextMate, mais je =20= laisse d=E9j=E0 =E0 l=92abandon ce que j=92avais entam=E9 pour XML, = alors... > > @+, > Pascal > > > Le 18 sept. 09 =E0 00:04, Xavier Scheuer a =E9crit : > >> >> Bonsoir, >> >> Pour les prochains mails que tu envoies via la liste de diffusion, =20= >> essaie de penser =E0 mettre lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org en copie (ou =20 >> simplement faire un "r=E9pondre =E0 tous"), comme =E7a les autres = abonn=E9s =20 >> de la liste peuvent =E9galement suivre la discussion et l'=E9volution = =20 >> de ton probl=E8me. >> De plus, de cette mani=E8re, les messages seront consultables via les = =20 >> archives de la liste et pourront peut-=EAtre =E0 l'avenir =EAtre = utiles =20 >> dans le cas ou quelqu'un se retrouverait confront=E9 au m=EAme = probl=E8me. >> >> >> Philippe Labat a =E9crit : >>> Bonsoir, >>> Bingo, c'=E9tait "simplement =E7a". >> > Je viens donc de voir les premi=E8res notes d'une gamme s'afficher =20= >> dans > la visualisation pdf de LilyPond, super! >> >> Ah, ben content que ton probl=E8me soit r=E9solu. Ce n'=E9tait pas si = =20 >> compliqu=E9 finalement. >> >> > Je n'aurais pas pu deviner, car "LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/=20= >> bin" >> > (sans le dernier "slash" d'ailleurs) n'appara=EEt pas comme un sous >> > dossier de /Applications sur le Mac (myst=E8re). >> > Il ne me reste plus qu'=E0 trouver comment j'arrive =E0 sauvegarder = =20 >> ce pdf >> > quelque part, mais je devrais y arriver avec la documentation en >> > ligne. >> >> Normalement ce pdf se trouve dans le m=EAme r=E9pertoire, l=E0 o=F9 = tu as =20 >> sauvegard=E9 ton fichier .ly. >> >> Puisque Mac OS X fait partie de la famille des syst=E8mes =20 >> d'exploitation UNIX il doit comporter un terminal. Tu peux donc =20 >> invoquer lilypond en ligne de commande. Ainsi via l'option --=20 >> output=3DFILE (ou, plus court -o FILE) tu peux d=E9finir le nom et =20= >> l'emplacement du fichier de sortie (pdf). Ainsi la commande >> >> lilypond -o /dossier1/dossier2/nomchoisi nomfichier.ly >> >> te donnera un fichier nomchoisi.pdf dans /dossier1/dossier2 >> >> C'est dans la documentation (en anglais) ici : = http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/user/lilypond-program/Command_= 002dline-usage >> >> Cela dit, le plus simple pour quelqu'un qui d=E9bute est peut-=EAtre = de =20 >> tout faire via jEdit/LilyPondTool et de renommer/d=E9placer le pdf =20= >> par apr=E8s, via ton gestionnaire de fichier. >> >> > Encore merci pour ton support, >> De rien, ce fut un plaisir. >> >> > cordialement, >> > Philippe >> De m=EAme, >> Xavier >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> liste de diffusion lilypond-user-fr >> lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org >> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user-fr >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > liste de diffusion lilypond-user-fr > lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user-fr =C9douard GILBERT edouard.gilbert@gmail.com --Apple-Mail-274-87742604 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename*=ISO-8859-1''%C9douard%20Gilbert.vcf Content-Type: text/directory; x-mac-hide-extension=yes; x-unix-mode=0644; name="=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=C9douard_Gilbert.vcf?=" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable BEGIN:VCARD=0D=0AVERSION:3.0=0D=0AN:Gilbert;=C3=89douard;;;=0D=0A= FN:=C3=89douard=20Gilbert=0D=0AORG:Universit=C3=A9=20Charles=20de=20= Gaulle=20=E2=80=94=C2=A0Lille=C2=A03;=0D=0A= EMAIL;type=3DINTERNET;type=3DWORK;type=3Dpref:edouard.gilbert@inria.fr=0D= =0ATEL;type=3DWORK:+33=203=2059=2057=2078=2063=0D=0A= item1.ADR;type=3DWORK:;;INRIA=20Lille=20=E2=80=93=C2=A0Nord=20= Europe\nParc=20Scientifique=20de=20la=20Haute=20Borne\nPark=20Plaza=20-=20= B=C3=A2t=20A=20-=2040=20avenue=20Halley;Villeneuve=20= d'Ascq;;59650;France=0D=0Aitem1.X-ABADR:fr=0D=0A= X-JABBER;type=3DWORK:edouard.gilbert@inria.fr=0D=0A= X-ABUID:C65CA7A2-8CEF-45B5-82FF-EA0F5934F3DE\:ABPerson=0D=0AEND:VCARD=0D=0A= --Apple-Mail-274-87742604 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --Apple-Mail-274-87742604-- From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Sep 18 07:24:35 2009 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1MobZr-00053X-7q for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Sep 2009 07:24:35 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MobZp-00051k-QS for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Sep 2009 07:24:33 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MobZl-0004yj-9C for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Sep 2009 07:24:33 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=36294 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MobZl-0004yg-2m for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Sep 2009 07:24:29 -0400 Received: from smtp-msa-out01.orange.fr ([193.252.23.120]:13035) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MobZk-0007nF-KJ for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Sep 2009 07:24:28 -0400 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf5a03.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id D8AA71C00081; Fri, 18 Sep 2009 13:24:27 +0200 (CEST) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf5a03.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id CC1C61C00096; Fri, 18 Sep 2009 13:24:27 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.144] (ASte-Genev-Bois-154-1-33-223.w86-198.abo.wanadoo.fr [86.198.16.223]) by mwinf5a03.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 792CC1C00081; Fri, 18 Sep 2009 13:24:27 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20090918112427496.792CC1C00081@mwinf5a03.orange.fr X-ME-User-Auth: legrispascal Message-Id: <78B3E971-B1B0-448B-A368-8F27564C6CBB@wanadoo.fr> From: Pascal Legris To: lilypondeurs fr In-Reply-To: <1253256577961-3667870.post@n2.nabble.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 13:24:26 +0200 References: <1251205859747-3509641.post@n2.nabble.com> <5EABE726-EA34-4DBE-BDFA-4A1260EC4D62@wanadoo.fr> <4A940849.5020903@cathemline.org> <1252596121625-3617608.post@n2.nabble.com> <4AB026C4.3050109@gmail.com> <1253078430921-3654197.post@n2.nabble.com> <4AB15DF2.6050004@gmail.com> <1253256577961-3667870.post@n2.nabble.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. Cc: legoss Subject: Re: lilypondtool introuvable X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 11:24:34 -0000 Bonjour, Si Lilypond n'est pas dans la liste, je vois deux raisons possibles : 1) lilypond est d=E9j=E0 install=E9 et il est sous l'onglet "manage" 2) la liste des serveurs n'est pas =E0 jour -> bouton "Download =20 options..." ensuite bouton "Update mirror list". choisir par exemple =20 Lausanne A tout hasard, s'il y a une erreur d'ex=E9cution, on peut r=E9cup=E9rer = une =20 trace Java (sur Mac c'est dans /Applications/Utilitaire/Console). Elle =20= peut aider =E0 comprendre. Enfin, en dernier ressort, on peut effacer (ou renommer) le dossier =20 jEdit (sur Mac c'est dans le dossier Biblioth=E8que) et refaire une =20 install propre. Il est possible que =E7a vienne d'une librairie plus =20 tr=E8s compatible avec la derni=E8re version de jEdit. Bon courage, Pascal Le 18 sept. 09 =E0 08:49, legoss a =E9crit : > > > Xavier Scheuer wrote: >> >> Ou alors j'ai rien compris =E0 ton probl=E8me. :-p >> > Bon, si tu n'as pas compris, c'est s=FBrement que j'ai mal expliqu=E9. = =20 > Voil=E0 > comment je proc=E8de d'habitude pour cr=E9er de belles partitions avec = =20 > Lilypond. > (NB : je ne fais les installations et les r=E9glages qu'une seule =20 > fois ! Je > tourne en rond, mais faut pas pousser... :drunk:) > 1 - t=E9l=E9chargement et installation de Lilypond (pas bien = compliqu=E9) > 2 - t=E9l=E9chargement et installation de jEdit (pas la mer =E0 = boire... > heureusement !). > 3 - ouverture de jEdit et installation de LilyponTool sans aucun =20 > probl=E8me, > et quelle que soit la version de jEdit utilis=E9e dans Plugins\Plugin > manager\Install\LilypondTool\Install. > 4 - r=E9glages des options des plugins > 5 - plugins\LilypondTool\Partition\Assistant de cr=E9ation de = partition > 6 - Ecriture de la partion, et g=E9n=E9ration du pdf qui va bien. > > J'ai toujours fait comme =E7a et c'est la 1=E8re fois que jEdit ne me =20= > donne pas > LilyponTool dans Plugins\Plugin manager\Install\LilypondTool=20 > \Install. Est-ce > que la proc=E9dure n'est pas la bonne ? Est-ce Alzheimer qui guette ? =20= > Suis-je > un extra-terrestre ? Ou bien jEdit qui fait des siennes ? :confused: > > En esp=E9rant avoir =E9t=E9 plus clair... > Merrrci ben > --=20 > View this message in context: = http://n2.nabble.com/lilypondtool-introuvable-tp3509641p3667870.html > Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at =20 > Nabble.com. > > > _______________________________________________ > liste de diffusion lilypond-user-fr > lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user-fr From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Sep 18 11:34:34 2009 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1MofTm-00075P-IG for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Sep 2009 11:34:34 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MofTk-00074a-QP for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Sep 2009 11:34:32 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MofTg-00072Y-Lo for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Sep 2009 11:34:32 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=55988 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MofTg-00072T-Db for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Sep 2009 11:34:28 -0400 Received: from kuber.nabble.com ([216.139.236.158]:50087) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MofTf-0004wo-VX for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Sep 2009 11:34:28 -0400 Received: from tervel.nabble.com ([192.168.236.150]) by kuber.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1MofTe-0002jy-Eo for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Sep 2009 08:34:26 -0700 Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 08:34:26 -0700 (PDT) From: legoss To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Message-ID: <1253288066455-3670586.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <4AB355A1.703@laposte.net> References: <1251205859747-3509641.post@n2.nabble.com> <5EABE726-EA34-4DBE-BDFA-4A1260EC4D62@wanadoo.fr> <4A940849.5020903@cathemline.org> <1252596121625-3617608.post@n2.nabble.com> <4AB026C4.3050109@gmail.com> <1253078430921-3654197.post@n2.nabble.com> <4AB15DF2.6050004@gmail.com> <1253256577961-3667870.post@n2.nabble.com> <4AB355A1.703@laposte.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Nabble-From: laurent.escolier@aliceadsl.fr X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Subject: Re: lilypondtool introuvable X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 15:34:33 -0000 la_poste wrote: >=20 > Lors de ma derni=C3=A8re installation sur Vista, il faut charger un fichi= er=20 > lilypond ou en cr=C3=A9er un pour voir apparaitre les menus Lilypondtool. >=20 Bon. J'ai tout d=C3=A9sinstall=C3=A9, tout r=C3=A9install=C3=A9. Cr=C3=A9= =C3=A9 un fichier *.ly... aucun menu Lilypondtool =C3=A0 l'horizon. Peut-=C3=AAtre une subtilit=C3=A9 que je n'ai pas saisie... Pascal Legris-2 wrote: >=20 > 1) lilypond est d=C3=A9j=C3=A0 install=C3=A9 et il est sous l'onglet "man= age" > 2) la liste des serveurs n'est pas =C3=A0 jour -> bouton "Download =20 > options..." ensuite bouton "Update mirror list". choisir par exemple =20 > Lausanne=20 >=20 1) Lilypond est install=C3=A9 mais lilypondtool n'appara=C3=AEt pas sous "m= anage" 2) J'ai fait tous les miroirs pr=C3=A9sents, rien non plus... Quelqu'un a-t-il essay=C3=A9 de virer lilypondtool et de le r=C3=A9installe= r pour voir s'il =C3=A9tait toujours pr=C3=A9sent dans un des miroirs ? En tout cas merci pour votre aide ! --=20 View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/lilypondtool-introuvable= -tp3509641p3670586.html Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Sep 18 11:38:13 2009 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1MofXI-0000aB-W1 for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Sep 2009 11:38:13 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MofXF-0000Wo-OF for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Sep 2009 11:38:10 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MofXB-0000Ta-2M for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Sep 2009 11:38:08 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=39560 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MofX9-0000SZ-Nj for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Sep 2009 11:38:04 -0400 Received: from kuber.nabble.com ([216.139.236.158]:52752) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MofX6-0005VJ-SX for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Sep 2009 11:38:02 -0400 Received: from tervel.nabble.com ([192.168.236.150]) by kuber.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1MofX2-0002uS-Ub for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Sep 2009 08:37:56 -0700 Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 08:37:56 -0700 (PDT) From: legoss To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Message-ID: <1253288276945-3670621.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <1253288066455-3670586.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1251205859747-3509641.post@n2.nabble.com> <5EABE726-EA34-4DBE-BDFA-4A1260EC4D62@wanadoo.fr> <4A940849.5020903@cathemline.org> <1252596121625-3617608.post@n2.nabble.com> <4AB026C4.3050109@gmail.com> <1253078430921-3654197.post@n2.nabble.com> <4AB15DF2.6050004@gmail.com> <1253256577961-3667870.post@n2.nabble.com> <4AB355A1.703@laposte.net> <1253288066455-3670586.post@n2.nabble.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Nabble-From: laurent.escolier@aliceadsl.fr X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Subject: Re: lilypondtool introuvable X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 15:38:11 -0000 Je viens de m'apercevoir que Philippe =C3=A0 aussi un probl=C3=A8me avec li= lypondtool, mais sous Mac cette fois, ici : http://n2.nabble.com/Impossible-lancer-jar-dans-jEdit-plugin-Lilypond-td365= 1974.html#a3651974 Ne serait-ce pas le m=C3=AAme probl=C3=A8me ? --=20 View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/lilypondtool-introuvable= -tp3509641p3670621.html Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Sep 18 12:59:39 2009 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1Mogo7-00033m-N9 for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Sep 2009 12:59:39 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mogo5-00032W-Vj for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Sep 2009 12:59:37 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mogo0-00031Y-76 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Sep 2009 12:59:36 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=37707 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Mogo0-00031V-3M for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Sep 2009 12:59:32 -0400 Received: from smtp-msa-out01.orange.fr ([193.252.23.120]:46744) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Mognz-0004lc-D3 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Sep 2009 12:59:31 -0400 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf5a03.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 383A81C0009B; Fri, 18 Sep 2009 18:59:29 +0200 (CEST) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf5a03.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 2B1F61C0008E; Fri, 18 Sep 2009 18:59:29 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.144] (ASte-Genev-Bois-154-1-33-223.w86-198.abo.wanadoo.fr [86.198.16.223]) by mwinf5a03.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id CE01C1C0009B; Fri, 18 Sep 2009 18:59:28 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20090918165928844.CE01C1C0009B@mwinf5a03.orange.fr X-ME-User-Auth: legrispascal Message-Id: <220E68AE-E96D-4A4F-B4EA-4B5C75EB6E78@wanadoo.fr> From: Pascal Legris To: lilypondeurs fr In-Reply-To: <1253288066455-3670586.post@n2.nabble.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 18:59:27 +0200 References: <1251205859747-3509641.post@n2.nabble.com> <5EABE726-EA34-4DBE-BDFA-4A1260EC4D62@wanadoo.fr> <4A940849.5020903@cathemline.org> <1252596121625-3617608.post@n2.nabble.com> <4AB026C4.3050109@gmail.com> <1253078430921-3654197.post@n2.nabble.com> <4AB15DF2.6050004@gmail.com> <1253256577961-3667870.post@n2.nabble.com> <4AB355A1.703@laposte.net> <1253288066455-3670586.post@n2.nabble.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. Cc: legoss Subject: Re: lilypondtool introuvable X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 16:59:38 -0000 Bon, j'ai enlev=E9 les fichiers LilyPondTool.jar et LilyJHelp.jar du =20 dossier jEdit/jar et LilyPondTool appara=EEt sous l'onglet install. Je =20= peux alors le r=E9installer (je suis sur le serveur de Lausanne). Il s'agit peut-=EAtre d'un probl=E8me de version java. Peux-tu taper la =20= commande sur le terminal : java -version sur ma machine, j'obtiens : java version "1.6.0_15" Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_15-b03-226) Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 14.1-b02-92, mixed mode) J'ai fait un essai rapide avec une version 5. =C7a a toujours l'air de =20= marcher, mais =E7a ne veut rien dire, il est toujours possible de forcer = =20 une version de java lorsqu'il y en a plusieurs d'install=E9es, ce qui =20= est mon cas. Je suis all=E9 faire un petit tour dans les fichier de lilypondTool (le =20= format .jar et identique au .zip, il suffit de renommer le fichier =20 pour voir le contenu). Il appara=EEt que c'est g=E9n=E9r=E9 avec une = version =20 1.5 de Java (ou java5). Il n'y a pas beaucoup de diff=E9rences avec la =20= version 1.6, mais on ne sait jamais. @+, Pascal Le 18 sept. 09 =E0 17:34, legoss a =E9crit : > > > la_poste wrote: >> >> Lors de ma derni=E8re installation sur Vista, il faut charger un =20 >> fichier >> lilypond ou en cr=E9er un pour voir apparaitre les menus = Lilypondtool. >> > Bon. J'ai tout d=E9sinstall=E9, tout r=E9install=E9. Cr=E9=E9 un = fichier *.ly... =20 > aucun > menu Lilypondtool =E0 l'horizon. > Peut-=EAtre une subtilit=E9 que je n'ai pas saisie... > > Pascal Legris-2 wrote: >> >> 1) lilypond est d=E9j=E0 install=E9 et il est sous l'onglet "manage" >> 2) la liste des serveurs n'est pas =E0 jour -> bouton "Download >> options..." ensuite bouton "Update mirror list". choisir par exemple >> Lausanne >> > 1) Lilypond est install=E9 mais lilypondtool n'appara=EEt pas sous =20 > "manage" > 2) J'ai fait tous les miroirs pr=E9sents, rien non plus... > > Quelqu'un a-t-il essay=E9 de virer lilypondtool et de le r=E9installer = =20 > pour voir > s'il =E9tait toujours pr=E9sent dans un des miroirs ? > > En tout cas merci pour votre aide ! > > --=20 > View this message in context: = http://n2.nabble.com/lilypondtool-introuvable-tp3509641p3670586.html > Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at =20 > Nabble.com. > > > _______________________________________________ > liste de diffusion lilypond-user-fr > lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user-fr From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Sep 18 14:34:28 2009 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1MoiHr-0005f4-Qp for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Sep 2009 14:34:27 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MoiHp-0005eO-J4 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Sep 2009 14:34:25 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MoiHk-0005cU-Fy for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Sep 2009 14:34:24 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=34379 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MoiHk-0005cO-7p for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Sep 2009 14:34:20 -0400 Received: from kuber.nabble.com ([216.139.236.158]:33643) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MoiHj-0005qD-Mt for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Sep 2009 14:34:20 -0400 Received: from tervel.nabble.com ([192.168.236.150]) by kuber.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1MoiHh-0001Qj-UL for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Sep 2009 11:34:17 -0700 Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 11:34:17 -0700 (PDT) From: legoss To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Message-ID: <1253298857934-3671501.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <220E68AE-E96D-4A4F-B4EA-4B5C75EB6E78@wanadoo.fr> References: <5EABE726-EA34-4DBE-BDFA-4A1260EC4D62@wanadoo.fr> <4A940849.5020903@cathemline.org> <1252596121625-3617608.post@n2.nabble.com> <4AB026C4.3050109@gmail.com> <1253078430921-3654197.post@n2.nabble.com> <4AB15DF2.6050004@gmail.com> <1253256577961-3667870.post@n2.nabble.com> <4AB355A1.703@laposte.net> <1253288066455-3670586.post@n2.nabble.com> <220E68AE-E96D-4A4F-B4EA-4B5C75EB6E78@wanadoo.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Nabble-From: laurent.escolier@aliceadsl.fr X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Subject: Re: lilypondtool introuvable X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 18:34:25 -0000 voici le r=C3=A9sulat : java version "1.6.0_16" Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_16-b01) Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 14.2-b01, mixed mode, sharing) Qu'est-ce que tu me conseilles ? --=20 View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/lilypondtool-introuvable= -tp3509641p3671501.html Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Sep 18 16:45:32 2009 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1MokKi-0007qY-2E for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Sep 2009 16:45:32 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MokKg-0007qT-IB for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Sep 2009 16:45:30 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MokKb-0007q5-Iu for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Sep 2009 16:45:29 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=45839 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MokKb-0007q2-EP for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Sep 2009 16:45:25 -0400 Received: from smtp-msa-out01.orange.fr ([193.252.23.120]:27073) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MokKa-0004io-U2 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Sep 2009 16:45:25 -0400 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf5a03.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id D40C31C00085; Fri, 18 Sep 2009 22:45:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf5a03.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id C622E1C00089; Fri, 18 Sep 2009 22:45:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.144] (ASte-Genev-Bois-154-1-33-223.w86-198.abo.wanadoo.fr [86.198.16.223]) by mwinf5a03.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 8230E1C00085; Fri, 18 Sep 2009 22:45:23 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20090918204523533.8230E1C00085@mwinf5a03.orange.fr X-ME-User-Auth: legrispascal Message-Id: From: Pascal Legris To: lilypondeurs fr In-Reply-To: <1253298857934-3671501.post@n2.nabble.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 22:45:22 +0200 References: <5EABE726-EA34-4DBE-BDFA-4A1260EC4D62@wanadoo.fr> <4A940849.5020903@cathemline.org> <1252596121625-3617608.post@n2.nabble.com> <4AB026C4.3050109@gmail.com> <1253078430921-3654197.post@n2.nabble.com> <4AB15DF2.6050004@gmail.com> <1253256577961-3667870.post@n2.nabble.com> <4AB355A1.703@laposte.net> <1253288066455-3670586.post@n2.nabble.com> <220E68AE-E96D-4A4F-B4EA-4B5C75EB6E78@wanadoo.fr> <1253298857934-3671501.post@n2.nabble.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. Cc: legoss Subject: Re: lilypondtool introuvable X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 20:45:31 -0000 Sur le site de LilypondTool ( http://lilypondtool.organum.hu/=20 86.html ), il demande la version Java Runtime 5 (JRE5). On peut la =20 t=E9l=E9charger sur http://java.sun.com/javase/downloads/index_jdk5.jsp (Java Runtime =20 Environment (JRE) 5.0 Update 21) En principe, plusieurs versions de java peuvent cohabiter (en tout =20 cas, c'est comme =E7a sur mon Mac). @+, Pascal Le 18 sept. 09 =E0 20:34, legoss a =E9crit : > > voici le r=E9sulat : > > java version "1.6.0_16" > Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_16-b01) > Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 14.2-b01, mixed mode, sharing) > > Qu'est-ce que tu me conseilles ? > --=20 > View this message in context: = http://n2.nabble.com/lilypondtool-introuvable-tp3509641p3671501.html > Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at =20 > Nabble.com. > > > _______________________________________________ > liste de diffusion lilypond-user-fr > lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user-fr From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Sep 18 17:41:08 2009 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1MolCW-0008EN-1a for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Sep 2009 17:41:08 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MolCU-0008EF-Kt for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Sep 2009 17:41:06 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MolCQ-0008Dw-3z for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Sep 2009 17:41:06 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=37184 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MolCQ-0008Dt-1H for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Sep 2009 17:41:02 -0400 Received: from ey-out-1920.google.com ([74.125.78.145]:19507) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MolCP-00044v-Ic for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Sep 2009 17:41:01 -0400 Received: by ey-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 3so632013eyh.34 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 2009 14:41:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=lQ6skmFSCQxCco2nBjwWa4Er2jlYjd7fHSkpcQedj98=; b=nrU6MwHatNMS33u5NT9U8FEIIv8myJZ384Pk6AOJ1mvdCgQOsdHisq7E8+X4ajTjd0 GWxJPFXt4Vv90E4Ko2zozZtc89vNoMZytQaVMgNgTt5+YFh8n4uMbTTB/DlTHmf+4nL4 6mH1DrXjfeZVWBWGrnB72+RjAhACWiMSGP4Jk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=XrmqMwYEpzQHDoD5f6LxgXvO5fgFX1XG7TwcNuq8stzEx25Fl7ErJTx+s2LryedHx1 zpRJSAyaa2LfkRQkcehFxx94uGxTHj+l9UkDf5g6ST7z2IFrEQquQOYI+Kflwp+EH8rW p8Mqzm9JjwMTJsXVROh1lgWQ8K4IjyllgMDlQ= Received: by 10.210.6.21 with SMTP id 21mr34704ebf.58.1253310060117; Fri, 18 Sep 2009 14:41:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.5? (108.124-245-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [81.245.124.108]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 28sm1092933eyg.9.2009.09.18.14.40.58 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 18 Sep 2009 14:40:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4AB3FE69.8040905@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 23:40:57 +0200 From: Xavier Scheuer User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pascal Legris References: <5EABE726-EA34-4DBE-BDFA-4A1260EC4D62@wanadoo.fr> <4A940849.5020903@cathemline.org> <1252596121625-3617608.post@n2.nabble.com> <4AB026C4.3050109@gmail.com> <1253078430921-3654197.post@n2.nabble.com> <4AB15DF2.6050004@gmail.com> <1253256577961-3667870.post@n2.nabble.com> <4AB355A1.703@laposte.net> <1253288066455-3670586.post@n2.nabble.com> <220E68AE-E96D-4A4F-B4EA-4B5C75EB6E78@wanadoo.fr> <1253298857934-3671501.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) Cc: lilypondeurs fr , legoss Subject: Re: lilypondtool introuvable X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 21:41:06 -0000 Pascal Legris a écrit : > Sur le site de LilypondTool ( http://lilypondtool.organum.hu/86.html ), > il demande la version Java Runtime 5 (JRE5). On peut la télécharger sur > http://java.sun.com/javase/downloads/index_jdk5.jsp (Java Runtime > Environment (JRE) 5.0 Update 21) J'ai exactement la même chose que legoss pour la version de Java mais je n'ai aucun problème avec LilyPondTool. legoss a écrit : > Quelqu'un a-t-il essayé de virer lilypondtool et de le réinstaller pour voir > s'il était toujours présent dans un des miroirs ? Je viens de supprimer et réinstaller LilyPondTool plusieurs fois et il était toujours présent dans les miroirs (j'en ai essayé 4-5). Tu as un fichier LilyPondTool.jar dans /home/legoss/.jedit/jars/LilyPondTool.jar ? Sinon j'essayerais la réinstallation propre (en supprimant les fichiers de configuration) de jEdit, puis de LilyPondTool, comme proposé par Pascal. > Je viens de m'apercevoir que Philippe à aussi un problème avec > lilypondtool, mais sous Mac cette fois, ici : > http://n2.nabble.com/Impossible-lancer-jar-dans-jEdit-plugin-Lilypond-td3651974.html#a3651974 > Ne serait-ce pas le même problème ? Non, c'était différent. 1. Il n'avait pas installé LilyPond. 2. Le chemin de lilypond dans les options de LilyPondTool était incorrect. C'est réglé à présent pour lui. Bonne continuation, Xavier From MAILER-DAEMON Sat Sep 19 08:38:20 2009 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1MozCm-0006vI-Q7 for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Sep 2009 08:38:20 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MozCl-0006v1-Br for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Sep 2009 08:38:19 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MozCg-0006uY-LH for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Sep 2009 08:38:19 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=43969 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MozCg-0006uS-Hv for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Sep 2009 08:38:14 -0400 Received: from kuber.nabble.com ([216.139.236.158]:53513) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MozCg-0005Md-3h for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Sep 2009 08:38:14 -0400 Received: from tervel.nabble.com ([192.168.236.150]) by kuber.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1MozCc-0002ox-Vq for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Sep 2009 05:38:10 -0700 Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 05:38:10 -0700 (PDT) From: legoss To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Message-ID: <1253363890978-3675260.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <4AB3FE69.8040905@gmail.com> References: <4AB026C4.3050109@gmail.com> <1253078430921-3654197.post@n2.nabble.com> <4AB15DF2.6050004@gmail.com> <1253256577961-3667870.post@n2.nabble.com> <4AB355A1.703@laposte.net> <1253288066455-3670586.post@n2.nabble.com> <220E68AE-E96D-4A4F-B4EA-4B5C75EB6E78@wanadoo.fr> <1253298857934-3671501.post@n2.nabble.com> <4AB3FE69.8040905@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Nabble-From: laurent.escolier@aliceadsl.fr X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Subject: Re: lilypondtool introuvable X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 12:38:19 -0000 J'en suis l=C3=A0 : Installation de Lilypond 2.12.2 Installation de jedit4.3pre16install (je ne peux ps ouvrir la jedit4.3pre17install. Version de java :=20 java version "1.6.0_16" Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_16-b01) Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 14.2-b01, mixed mode, sharing) Version compatible selon ceci : http://www.jedit.org/index.php?page=3Dcompatibility#win Toujours pas de LilypondTool en vue... 'devient p=C3=A9nible tout =C3=A7a... --=20 View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/lilypondtool-introuvable= -tp3509641p3675260.html Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From MAILER-DAEMON Sat Sep 19 17:23:28 2009 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1Mp7Oy-0004u8-AX for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Sep 2009 17:23:28 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mp7Ow-0004tu-Il for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Sep 2009 17:23:26 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mp7Ot-0004tW-1t for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Sep 2009 17:23:26 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=37272 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Mp7Os-0004tT-RK for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Sep 2009 17:23:22 -0400 Received: from smtp20.orange.fr ([80.12.242.26]:11043) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Mp7Os-0001jJ-Ca for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Sep 2009 17:23:22 -0400 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2006.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 16A5520000AA; Sat, 19 Sep 2009 23:23:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2006.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 03A9320000AD; Sat, 19 Sep 2009 23:23:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.102] (ALagny-153-1-79-110.w90-3.abo.wanadoo.fr [90.3.102.110]) by mwinf2006.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id B006F20000AA; Sat, 19 Sep 2009 23:23:17 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20090919212317721.B006F20000AA@mwinf2006.orange.fr Message-ID: <4AB54BC3.7000400@cathemline.org> Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 23:23:15 +0200 From: Martial User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: legoss References: <4AB026C4.3050109@gmail.com> <1253078430921-3654197.post@n2.nabble.com> <4AB15DF2.6050004@gmail.com> <1253256577961-3667870.post@n2.nabble.com> <4AB355A1.703@laposte.net> <1253288066455-3670586.post@n2.nabble.com> <220E68AE-E96D-4A4F-B4EA-4B5C75EB6E78@wanadoo.fr> <1253298857934-3671501.post@n2.nabble.com> <4AB3FE69.8040905@gmail.com> <1253363890978-3675260.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <1253363890978-3675260.post@n2.nabble.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. Cc: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Subject: Re: lilypondtool introuvable X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 21:23:26 -0000 > Toujours pas de LilypondTool en vue... > 'devient p=C3=A9nible tout =C3=A7a... J'imagine, et compati deux propositions 1) Essaye la version pr=C3=A9c=C3=A9dente de lilyPondTool en installation manuel http://tinyurl.com/kuz5z4 d=C3=A9s fois qu'il y'ai un bug dans la derni=C3=A8re version ! 2) vire tout, jEdit, LilyPondTool y compris java et r=C3=A9installe. ( chez moi sous XP j'ai la java 1.6.0_16 et =C3=A7a fonctionne ) Bon courage --=20 Martial From MAILER-DAEMON Mon Sep 21 04:45:18 2009 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1MpeWL-0005Qd-UF for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Sep 2009 04:45:18 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MpeWJ-0005Nw-RJ for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Sep 2009 04:45:15 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MpeWF-0005Dx-8u for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Sep 2009 04:45:15 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=36415 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MpeWF-0005Dm-6X for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Sep 2009 04:45:11 -0400 Received: from kuber.nabble.com ([216.139.236.158]:38497) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MpeWE-0002ls-M2 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Sep 2009 04:45:10 -0400 Received: from tervel.nabble.com ([192.168.236.150]) by kuber.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1MpeWC-0000dR-7R for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Sep 2009 01:45:08 -0700 Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 01:45:08 -0700 (PDT) From: legoss To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Message-ID: <1253522708225-3683890.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <4AB54BC3.7000400@cathemline.org> References: <4AB15DF2.6050004@gmail.com> <1253256577961-3667870.post@n2.nabble.com> <4AB355A1.703@laposte.net> <1253288066455-3670586.post@n2.nabble.com> <220E68AE-E96D-4A4F-B4EA-4B5C75EB6E78@wanadoo.fr> <1253298857934-3671501.post@n2.nabble.com> <4AB3FE69.8040905@gmail.com> <1253363890978-3675260.post@n2.nabble.com> <4AB54BC3.7000400@cathemline.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Nabble-From: laurent.escolier@aliceadsl.fr X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Subject: Re: lilypondtool introuvable X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 08:45:16 -0000 Martial-2 wrote: >=20 > 1) Essaye la version pr=C3=A9c=C3=A9dente de lilyPondTool > en installation manuel http://tinyurl.com/kuz5z4 >=20 Cette solution ne fonctionne pas. J'essaie la suivante... --=20 View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/lilypondtool-introuvable= -tp3509641p3683890.html Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From MAILER-DAEMON Mon Sep 21 05:23:48 2009 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1Mpf7c-0008Sv-C2 for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Sep 2009 05:23:48 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mpf7a-0008SS-8D for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Sep 2009 05:23:46 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mpf7V-0008RO-Eu for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Sep 2009 05:23:45 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=40035 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Mpf7V-0008RJ-5T for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Sep 2009 05:23:41 -0400 Received: from kuber.nabble.com ([216.139.236.158]:50544) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Mpf7U-0003IX-JH for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Sep 2009 05:23:40 -0400 Received: from tervel.nabble.com ([192.168.236.150]) by kuber.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Mpf7T-0001xR-3C for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Sep 2009 02:23:39 -0700 Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 02:23:39 -0700 (PDT) From: legoss To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Message-ID: <1253525019094-3684064.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <4AB54BC3.7000400@cathemline.org> References: <4AB15DF2.6050004@gmail.com> <1253256577961-3667870.post@n2.nabble.com> <4AB355A1.703@laposte.net> <1253288066455-3670586.post@n2.nabble.com> <220E68AE-E96D-4A4F-B4EA-4B5C75EB6E78@wanadoo.fr> <1253298857934-3671501.post@n2.nabble.com> <4AB3FE69.8040905@gmail.com> <1253363890978-3675260.post@n2.nabble.com> <4AB54BC3.7000400@cathemline.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Nabble-From: laurent.escolier@aliceadsl.fr X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Subject: Re: lilypondtool introuvable X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 09:23:46 -0000 Martial-2 wrote: >=20 > 2) vire tout, jEdit, LilyPondTool y compris java et r=C3=A9installe. > ( chez moi sous XP j'ai la java 1.6.0_16 et =C3=A7a fonctionne ) >=20 =C3=A7a fonctionne ! :drunk: voici ce que j'ai fait sous Vista (dans l'ordre) : 1 - d=C3=A9sinstallation de java, lilypond et jEdit ; 2 - red=C3=A9marrage ; 3 - Installation de la derni=C3=A8re version de java ; 4 - Installation de Lilypond 2.12.2-1 ; 5 - Installation de jEdit 4.3pre17 6 - Ouverture sans probl=C3=A8me de jEdit... plugin manager... install et LilypondTool appara=C3=AEt ! 7 - Installation au poil. :clap: Pour l'instant, =C3=A7a fonctionne ! Cependant, je ne comprends toujours pas pourquoi =C3=A7a plantait avant... Merci pour ton aide ! :handshake: @+ --=20 View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/lilypondtool-introuvable= -tp3509641p3684064.html Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From MAILER-DAEMON Mon Sep 21 05:29:22 2009 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1MpfD0-0001dM-0V for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Sep 2009 05:29:22 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MpfCy-0001d8-3x for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Sep 2009 05:29:20 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MpfCt-0001c7-Ao for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Sep 2009 05:29:19 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=50690 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MpfCt-0001c4-4o for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Sep 2009 05:29:15 -0400 Received: from kuber.nabble.com ([216.139.236.158]:51612) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MpfCs-0004Lm-Oh for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Sep 2009 05:29:14 -0400 Received: from tervel.nabble.com ([192.168.236.150]) by kuber.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1MpfCr-00027P-7D for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Sep 2009 02:29:13 -0700 Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 02:29:13 -0700 (PDT) From: legoss To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Message-ID: <1253525353218-3684084.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <1253525019094-3684064.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1253256577961-3667870.post@n2.nabble.com> <4AB355A1.703@laposte.net> <1253288066455-3670586.post@n2.nabble.com> <220E68AE-E96D-4A4F-B4EA-4B5C75EB6E78@wanadoo.fr> <1253298857934-3671501.post@n2.nabble.com> <4AB3FE69.8040905@gmail.com> <1253363890978-3675260.post@n2.nabble.com> <4AB54BC3.7000400@cathemline.org> <1253525019094-3684064.post@n2.nabble.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Nabble-From: laurent.escolier@aliceadsl.fr X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Subject: Re: lilypondtool introuvable X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 09:29:20 -0000 Reste =C3=A0 faire "la m=C3=AAme chose" sous ubuntu. Sauf que l=C3=A0, je crois que =C3=A7a sera beaucoup plus simple... =3D) --=20 View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/lilypondtool-introuvable= -tp3509641p3684084.html Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From MAILER-DAEMON Mon Sep 21 07:13:58 2009 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1MpgqE-0003Sb-K0 for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Sep 2009 07:13:58 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MpgqC-0003SN-EV for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Sep 2009 07:13:56 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mpgq7-0003Ro-Id for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Sep 2009 07:13:55 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=34266 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Mpgq7-0003Rj-8t for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Sep 2009 07:13:51 -0400 Received: from smtp20.orange.fr ([193.252.22.31]:48335) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Mpgq6-0002Bg-U3 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Sep 2009 07:13:51 -0400 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2019.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id C286F200004E; Mon, 21 Sep 2009 13:13:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2019.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id B07AB2000057; Mon, 21 Sep 2009 13:13:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.102] (ALagny-153-1-79-110.w90-3.abo.wanadoo.fr [90.3.102.110]) by mwinf2019.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 2406D200004E; Mon, 21 Sep 2009 13:13:46 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20090921111346147.2406D200004E@mwinf2019.orange.fr Message-ID: <4AB75FE6.2010106@cathemline.org> Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 13:13:42 +0200 From: Martial User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: legoss References: <1253256577961-3667870.post@n2.nabble.com> <4AB355A1.703@laposte.net> <1253288066455-3670586.post@n2.nabble.com> <220E68AE-E96D-4A4F-B4EA-4B5C75EB6E78@wanadoo.fr> <1253298857934-3671501.post@n2.nabble.com> <4AB3FE69.8040905@gmail.com> <1253363890978-3675260.post@n2.nabble.com> <4AB54BC3.7000400@cathemline.org> <1253525019094-3684064.post@n2.nabble.com> <1253525353218-3684084.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <1253525353218-3684084.post@n2.nabble.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. Cc: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Subject: Re: lilypondtool introuvable X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 11:13:56 -0000 > Pour l'instant, =C3=A7a fonctionne ! Youpi ! > Cependant, je ne comprends toujours pas pourquoi =C3=A7a plantait avan= t... Un bl=C3=A8me =C3=A0 la pr=C3=A9c=C3=A9dente installation de JEdit ou Lil= yPondTool voir un soucis de donn=C3=A9es sur le disque dur ! =C3=A7a arrive, pas grave ... > Reste =C3=A0 faire "la m=C3=AAme chose" sous ubuntu. > Sauf que l=C3=A0, je crois que =C3=A7a sera beaucoup plus simple... =3D= ) Tiens nous au courant ! --=20 Martial From MAILER-DAEMON Tue Sep 22 05:44:16 2009 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1Mq1uy-00076g-D1 for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Sep 2009 05:44:16 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mq1uw-000761-8I for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Sep 2009 05:44:14 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mq1ur-00074h-0a for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Sep 2009 05:44:13 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=45647 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Mq1uq-00074Z-Or for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Sep 2009 05:44:08 -0400 Received: from mx-out.libertysurf.net ([213.36.80.91]:6802 helo=mail.libertysurf.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Mq1uq-00038A-54 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Sep 2009 05:44:08 -0400 Received: from imac-de-philippe-perret.local (83.157.100.158) by mail.libertysurf.net (7.3.118.8) id 4AB79A3300022514 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Sep 2009 12:41:58 +0200 Message-ID: <4AB89BAC.90504@yahoo.fr> Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 11:41:00 +0200 From: Phil User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) Subject: Affichage conditionnel (if / else) X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 09:44:14 -0000 Bonjour =E0 tous, Apr=E8s deux heures de recherche sur les archives et le net, je dois m'en= =20 remettre =E0 vous. Je cherche =E0 ins=E9rer des conditions dans un fichier Lilypond (me=20 permettant entre autres choses de sortir plusieurs versions d'une m=EAme=20 partition en changeant simplement une variable). J'ai d=E9j=E0 d=E9couvert qu'on pouvait utiliser la syntaxe : #(if (.... (p.e. "#(if (< MaVariable 4) (define AutreChose '(4 5 9))" ) Mais j'aimerais trouver une explication compl=E8te de la syntaxe =E0=20 utiliser pour ces blocs conditionnels (else if, else, etc.). Quelqu'un=20 aurait-il une id=E9e ? Dois-je simplement chercher du c=F4t=E9 de Scheme = ? Un grand merci =E0 vous pour votre aide, quelle qu'elle soit Phil (=E0 votre disposition pour toute question purement musicale) From MAILER-DAEMON Tue Sep 22 16:02:30 2009 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1MqBZG-0003pF-FH for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Sep 2009 16:02:30 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MqBZE-0003o8-OE for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Sep 2009 16:02:28 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MqBZA-0003lW-RU for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Sep 2009 16:02:28 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=45680 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MqBZA-0003lQ-G4 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Sep 2009 16:02:24 -0400 Received: from smtp3-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.3]:55095) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MqBZ9-0008Q9-J7 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Sep 2009 16:02:24 -0400 Received: from smtp3-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp3-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A58E818079; Tue, 22 Sep 2009 22:02:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.9] (aqu33-3-82-226-195-151.fbx.proxad.net [82.226.195.151]) by smtp3-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BC2F818190; Tue, 22 Sep 2009 22:02:14 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <799263C8-0227-4986-AD3D-9931BCD9D995@free.fr> From: Nicolas Sceaux To: Phil In-Reply-To: <4AB89BAC.90504@yahoo.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 22:02:13 +0200 References: <4AB89BAC.90504@yahoo.fr> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Cc: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Subject: Re: Affichage conditionnel (if / else) X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 20:02:29 -0000 Le 22 sept. 09 =E0 11:41, Phil a =E9crit : > Bonjour =E0 tous, > > Apr=E8s deux heures de recherche sur les archives et le net, je dois =20= > m'en remettre =E0 vous. > > Je cherche =E0 ins=E9rer des conditions dans un fichier Lilypond (me =20= > permettant entre autres choses de sortir plusieurs versions d'une =20 > m=EAme partition en changeant simplement une variable). > > J'ai d=E9j=E0 d=E9couvert qu'on pouvait utiliser la syntaxe : > > #(if (.... (p.e. "#(if (< MaVariable 4) (define AutreChose '(4 5 =20 > 9))" ) > > Mais j'aimerais trouver une explication compl=E8te de la syntaxe =E0 =20= > utiliser pour ces blocs conditionnels (else if, else, etc.). =20 > Quelqu'un aurait-il une id=E9e ? Dois-je simplement chercher du c=F4t=E9= =20 > de Scheme ? > > Un grand merci =E0 vous pour votre aide, quelle qu'elle soit Il vaudrait mieux commencer par donner exemple concret de ce que tu veux obtenir. Par exemple : Dans le cas un, je voudrais que =E7a fasse [telle chose=1B=1F=1B = exprim=E9e =20 en code LilyPond] Dans le cas deux, je voudrais que =E7a fasse [telle autre chose =20 exprim=E9e en code LilyPond] et alors il sera plus facile de te conseiller. Tr=E8s probablement cela n=E9cessitera de recourir =E0 du code Scheme. Nicolas From MAILER-DAEMON Tue Sep 22 20:30:42 2009 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1MqFko-0001hT-Pp for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Sep 2009 20:30:42 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MqFkm-0001hL-V7 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Sep 2009 20:30:40 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MqFki-0001fx-54 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Sep 2009 20:30:40 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=51247 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MqFki-0001fu-2S for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Sep 2009 20:30:36 -0400 Received: from smtp5-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.5]:38535) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MqFkh-0007uq-4E for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Sep 2009 20:30:35 -0400 Received: from smtp5-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp5-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2945BD4802F; Wed, 23 Sep 2009 02:30:30 +0200 (CEST) Received: from imac-de-philippe-perret.local (83-157-97-11.rev.libertysurf.net [83.157.97.11]) by smtp5-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4D1AD48054; Wed, 23 Sep 2009 02:30:27 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4AB96B68.2000102@yahoo.fr> Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 02:27:20 +0200 From: Phil User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nicolas Sceaux References: <4AB89BAC.90504@yahoo.fr> <799263C8-0227-4986-AD3D-9931BCD9D995@free.fr> In-Reply-To: <799263C8-0227-4986-AD3D-9931BCD9D995@free.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Cc: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Subject: Re: Affichage conditionnel (if / else) X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 00:30:41 -0000 Bonjour Nicolas, Merci pour ta r=E9ponse. D=E9sol=E9 de ne pas avoir =E9t=E9 tr=E8s pr=E9cis, mais ce que je cherch= e n'est pas=20 pr=E9cis, je veux dire : ne se limite pas =E0 un cas unique. C'est une=20 information g=E9n=E9rale sur les ressources et la syntaxe de Scheme adapt= =E9e=20 =E0 Lilypond. Je vais prendre un exemple extr=EAmement pr=E9cis (donc limitatif par=20 rapport =E0 l'aide que je cherche) : Je cr=E9e des tablatures pour la guitare pour des chansons de Ane Brun. Dans son interpr=E9tation de plusieurs chansons, elle utilise un=20 open-tuning (accord ouvert) de r=E9 (c'est-=E0-dire un accordage non=20 conventionnel de la guitare). Or, il se trouve que certains de ses morceaux ne n=E9cessitent pas=20 vraiment cet accordage, peuvent =EAtre jou=E9s avec un accordage=20 traditionnel (e b g d a e). Donc, je voudrais =E0 partir d'un seul fichier lilypond pouvoir sortir le= s=20 deux versions de la tablature des-dits morceaux. Version 1 : la tablature du morceau en accordage normal Version 2 : la tablature du morceau en open-tuning (Note : merci de ne pas m'interroger sur la pertinence de ces deux=20 versions. =C0 l'usage, elles sont int=E9ressantes : la premi=E8re pour ce= lui=20 qui n'a pas envie ou ne peut pas r=E9-accorder sa guitare, la seconde pou= r=20 celui qui cherche le morceau exact) Pour ce faire, je voudrais utiliser une seule variable (ci-dessous=20 NONOPENTUNING) qui me permettrait, en =E9tant modifi=E9e avant compilatio= n,=20 de sortir tr=E8s facilement ces deux versions : NONOPENTUNING est true =3D> la tablature est compil=E9e en accordage norm= al NONOPENTUNING est false =3D> la tablature est compil=E9e en open-tuning Actuellement, j'utilise par exemple : *** d=E9but de code *** NOTOPENTUNING =3D 0 #(if (> NOTOPENTUNING 0) (define SetOpenTuning '(+4 -1 -5 -10 -15 -20) ) (define SetOpenTuning '(+2 -3 -6 -10 -15 -22) ) ) *** fin de code *** Puis j'utilise la variable SetOpenTuning dans le contexte de la TabStaff *** d=E9but de code *** \set TabStaff.stringTunings =3D \SetOpenTuning *** fin de code *** En mettant NOTOPENTUNING =E0 1, j'obtiens la version en accordage normal. Si je n'avais qu'=E0 modifier le `TabStaff.stringTunings`, je pourrais me= =20 contenter d'un : *** d=E9but de code *** \set TabStaff.stringTunings =3D (+4 -1 -5 -10 -15 -20) % \set TabStaff.stringTunings =3D (+2 -3 -6 -10 -15 -22) *** fin de code *** =85 en d=E9commentant l'une ou l'autre des deux lignes suivant ce que je=20 veux obtenir. Seulement, de nombreuses choses doivent =EAtre chang=E9es d'une version =E0= =20 l'autre : l'explication sur la version de la tablature vis=E9e,=20 l'explication de l'accordage =E0 utiliser (quand open-tuning), le pied de= =20 page, le contenu de l'ent=EAte, etc. Je n'ai pas envie de d=E9commenter/commenter chaque ligne concern=E9e =E0= la main. Je voudrais n'utiliser que la d=E9finition de la variable NOTOPENTUNING=20 pour modifier tout =E7a. Mais vois-tu, je n'arrive m=EAme pas =E0 faire le test tout b=EAte pour s= avoir=20 NOTOPENTUNING est #t ou #f, je n'ai pas trouv=E9 la syntaxe qui fonctionn= e=20 et je dois me contenter pour le moment de mettre cette valeur =E0 0 ou 1=20 et de faire un malheureux test avec ">" comme ci-dessus. Voil=E0, d=E9sol=E9 d'avoir =E9t=E9 un peu long, mais puisqu'il fallait =EA= tre=20 pr=E9cis ;-) Merci pour toute aide qu'on pourra m'apporter (qui, pour faire court, se=20 r=E9sume =E0 m'indiquer o=F9 je serais susceptible de trouver de la docum= ent=20 sur l'utilisation de Scheme avec Lilypond). Bien =E0 toi, Bien =E0 vous tous, Phil Nicolas Sceaux a =E9crit : > Il vaudrait mieux commencer par donner exemple concret de ce que tu > veux obtenir. Par exemple : > > Dans le cas un, je voudrais que =E7a fasse [telle chose=1B=1F=1B exprim= =E9e en=20 > code LilyPond] > Dans le cas deux, je voudrais que =E7a fasse [telle autre chose exprim=E9= e=20 > en code LilyPond] > > et alors il sera plus facile de te conseiller. > Tr=E8s probablement cela n=E9cessitera de recourir =E0 du code Scheme. > > Nicolas > > From MAILER-DAEMON Wed Sep 23 15:07:55 2009 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1MqXBz-000741-Jq for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Sep 2009 15:07:55 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MqXBy-00073H-16 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Sep 2009 15:07:54 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MqXBt-00070r-CM for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Sep 2009 15:07:53 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=50992 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MqXBt-00070l-47 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Sep 2009 15:07:49 -0400 Received: from smtp3-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.3]:49307) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MqXBs-0000YD-5F for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Sep 2009 15:07:48 -0400 Received: from smtp3-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp3-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 655698181DB; Wed, 23 Sep 2009 21:07:43 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.9] (aqu33-3-82-226-195-151.fbx.proxad.net [82.226.195.151]) by smtp3-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C8918180FB; Wed, 23 Sep 2009 21:07:41 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <8DC89C50-66F6-4A94-ADA8-4E526FA5F462@free.fr> From: Nicolas Sceaux To: Phil In-Reply-To: <4AB96B68.2000102@yahoo.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 21:07:41 +0200 References: <4AB89BAC.90504@yahoo.fr> <799263C8-0227-4986-AD3D-9931BCD9D995@free.fr> <4AB96B68.2000102@yahoo.fr> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Cc: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Subject: Re: Affichage conditionnel (if / else) X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 19:07:54 -0000 Le 23 sept. 09 =E0 02:27, Phil a =E9crit : > Bonjour Nicolas, > > Merci pour ta r=E9ponse. > > D=E9sol=E9 de ne pas avoir =E9t=E9 tr=E8s pr=E9cis, mais ce que je = cherche n'est =20 > pas pr=E9cis, je veux dire : ne se limite pas =E0 un cas unique. C'est = =20 > une information g=E9n=E9rale sur les ressources et la syntaxe de = Scheme =20 > adapt=E9e =E0 Lilypond. > > Je vais prendre un exemple extr=EAmement pr=E9cis (donc limitatif par =20= > rapport =E0 l'aide que je cherche) : > > Je cr=E9e des tablatures pour la guitare pour des chansons de Ane = Brun. > Dans son interpr=E9tation de plusieurs chansons, elle utilise un open-=20= > tuning (accord ouvert) de r=E9 (c'est-=E0-dire un accordage non =20 > conventionnel de la guitare). > > Or, il se trouve que certains de ses morceaux ne n=E9cessitent pas =20 > vraiment cet accordage, peuvent =EAtre jou=E9s avec un accordage =20 > traditionnel (e b g d a e). > > Donc, je voudrais =E0 partir d'un seul fichier lilypond pouvoir sortir = =20 > les deux versions de la tablature des-dits morceaux. > Version 1 : la tablature du morceau en accordage normal > Version 2 : la tablature du morceau en open-tuning > Selon les cas, la technique pourra =EAtre assez diff=E9rente, et c'est toujours plus facile de partir d'un exemple concret. Dans le cas que tu d=E9cris, voici comment on peut faire les choses. %%%%%%%%%%%%%% open-tuning-test.ly %%%%%%%%%%%%%% \version "2.13.4" %% To switch to open tuning, either compile the file with %% -dopen-tuning option, or uncomment the following line: %%#(ly:set-option 'open-tuning #t) \layout { \context { \TabStaff stringTunings =3D #(if (eqv? (ly:get-option 'open-tuning) #t) '(+2 -3 -6 -10 -15 -22) '(+4 -1 -5 -10 -15 -20)) } } \new TabStaff { c' d' e' f' } %%%%%%%%%%%%%% open-tuning-test.ly %%%%%%%%%%%%%% Les deux cas sont atteints de la mani=E8re suivante : lilypond open-tuning-test.ly =3D=3D> tablatures avec accordage normal lilypond -dopen-tuning open-tuning-test.ly =3D=3D> tablatures avec accordage open tuning Nicolas= From MAILER-DAEMON Wed Sep 23 15:45:53 2009 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1MqXmj-000584-IA for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Sep 2009 15:45:53 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MqXmi-00057n-2s for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Sep 2009 15:45:52 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MqXmh-00057O-AH for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Sep 2009 15:45:51 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=36470 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MqXmh-00057I-5r for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Sep 2009 15:45:51 -0400 Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com ([72.14.220.153]:15238) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MqXmg-0006ne-Qq for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Sep 2009 15:45:50 -0400 Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 22so331220fge.12 for ; Wed, 23 Sep 2009 12:45:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Oh9jepG6rvUVHaY43yQO9FtPeKqKMWMvo4QWMJB2xTU=; b=WBl+St9CddgNBb7Z1iZmoCQRUTLrql//9UScKu6iM0yerZix8yXU6uqjXkbPFkxoaB gNh7FG22o8AH65LKjLA40Z7KU1yrqPm6Z8f29ZJxqAIR6puyV4SLmIgODhwKrZAJCijY oyzTpx3CrjcdTrpM87843VIJxi4b2lyF4R9qQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=OVmq0h4v0IlRAQOpEJwXKFK3T0ASoehtdcX5c7/gdJOxbspVaIIy8DvuemiwjpbDTa 2b6vHr+dbUDv5NV+ro8dj2RCAWdQHZtuSy7Pe+mXz68cCMIs6SQdmh3+e61k5bzF6Exu N5nvbz0VnrKl1r7Kecqrd98czggvnoDsViHl8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.86.209.23 with SMTP id h23mr2339713fgg.22.1253735149314; Wed, 23 Sep 2009 12:45:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <8DC89C50-66F6-4A94-ADA8-4E526FA5F462@free.fr> References: <4AB89BAC.90504@yahoo.fr> <799263C8-0227-4986-AD3D-9931BCD9D995@free.fr> <4AB96B68.2000102@yahoo.fr> <8DC89C50-66F6-4A94-ADA8-4E526FA5F462@free.fr> Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 21:45:49 +0200 Message-ID: From: Valentin Villenave To: Nicolas Sceaux Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) Cc: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org, Phil Subject: Re: Affichage conditionnel (if / else) X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 19:45:52 -0000 2009/9/23 Nicolas Sceaux : > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 stringTunings =3D #(if (eqv? (ly:get-option 'open-tuning) #= t) > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0'(+2 -3 -6 -10 -15 -22) > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0'(+4 -1 -5 -10 -15 -20)) > =C2=A0 } > } Et un petit bonus pour Phil (si je puis me permettre) : si de telles fonctions vous semblent int=C3=A9ressantes, n'h=C3=A9sitez pas =C3=A0 en fa= ire b=C3=A9n=C3=A9ficier toute la communaut=C3=A9 en les ajoutant sur le LilyPo= nd Snippet Repository ! http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/ Cordialement, Valentin From MAILER-DAEMON Wed Sep 23 20:11:37 2009 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1Mqbvt-0003vA-FG for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Sep 2009 20:11:37 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mqbvr-0003uz-SV for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Sep 2009 20:11:35 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mqbvn-0003un-6v for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Sep 2009 20:11:35 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=60160 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Mqbvn-0003uk-2U; Wed, 23 Sep 2009 20:11:31 -0400 Received: from mail-ew0-f223.google.com ([209.85.219.223]:62154) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Mqbvm-0000ES-Of; Wed, 23 Sep 2009 20:11:30 -0400 Received: by ewy23 with SMTP id 23so1167144ewy.2 for ; Wed, 23 Sep 2009 17:11:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=8hWf+JkctyfQl1xZFmJ6JOXS0Pje+0M1JK0JeXYp3eI=; b=cnkhPTMSvPUTi4lea9nNRlgGvMrz1Ww+092nsFwULFuLbj/myNhieRmMld3fKYvbE8 S+P32TID+iDtnqGye3r4gS5yPgDAfJA31PmpeJASWpxDSwVx9a8fWpIOQ2TAUksY7WLd TvLzqfSmTVmVoO2WPxoWmBTu89KUNwTCIW8xk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=nPg9qOD2v7nTk9FgHsaI5n6htrkz8+M+Ok8bhrjGFrh9dBHlZF+R3d1OqzeTRWmMuT Lo9SE+3jsMP2QDcWmbNMTYwA1yHZ05qbL3G8XHiSPKCykzG1K+j7ZTf9cE3L9a/SBXkg 9Zze9kk0Wh+xlexxN1tBmGm7P8eqQMi1he0AI= Received: by 10.211.132.37 with SMTP id j37mr3318311ebn.76.1253751089203; Wed, 23 Sep 2009 17:11:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.3? ([91.177.99.65]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 28sm716841eyg.4.2009.09.23.17.11.27 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 23 Sep 2009 17:11:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4ABAB92D.9050902@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 02:11:25 +0200 From: Xavier Scheuer User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pierre-Yves Gousenbourger , Valentin Villenave References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) Cc: lilypondeurs Subject: Re: Texte et Lilypond X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 00:11:36 -0000 Dites vous aviez remarqué que vous étiez sur la mailing-list anglophone (lilypond-user@gnu.org) ? Pierre-Yves, si tu veux poser tes questions en français (et que les autres utilisateurs francophones puissent te lire et te répondre, en français également), utilise plutôt la liste de diffusion francophone (lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org) avec le "-fr" après le "user". ;-) So let's go on lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org... > Pierre-Yves Gousenbourger a écrit : >> Bonsoir. >> >> Je cherche un moyen de créer un document texte dans lequel j'insère des objets >> Lilypond (des petites partitions/portées par-ci par-là). >> J'ai trouvé sur la doc une partie qui parle de lilypond-book. Mais ça commence à >> devenir incompréhensible quand ça parle de lignes de commandes. >> >> Sachant que j'ai Windows XP (et pas Linux, donc plus difficilement accès aux >> lignes de commande), et que je possède LaTeX... quelqu'un pourrait m'aider :( ? >> Siouplé... >> >> Pierre-Yves Valentin Villenave a écrit : > Bonsoir, > > LilyPond-book est un outil extraordinaire mais relativement > complexe... il existe encore plus simple : si vous utilisez > OpenOffice, un plugin du nom de http://ooolilypond.sourceforge.net > peut vous permettre d'intégrer facilement des fragments de partition > dans votre document. (Il existe également la même chose pour Scribus.) > > Cependant LilyPond-book fonctionne sans trop de mal sous Windows (mais > je laisserai quelqu'un d'autre vous renseigner, moi dès que je vois > deux lignes de laTeX je fuis en criant). > > Cordialement, > Valentin Villenave. Je me souviens avoir utilisé (il y a bien longtemps) lilypond-book sans trop de problème. Mais il me semble que c'était sous Linux (en général je fais du LaTeX sous Linux, avec Kile). Pierre-Yves, tu utilises quoi pour LaTeX sous Windows ? MiKTeX ? TeXnicCenter ou un autre éditeur ? Je vais y jeter un coup d'Å“il la prochaine fois que je boote sous Windows (dans les prochains jours). Cordialement, Xavier From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Sep 24 03:02:57 2009 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1MqiLx-0007nj-QX for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Sep 2009 03:02:57 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MqiLw-0007nZ-9i for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Sep 2009 03:02:56 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MqiLq-0007mx-OO for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Sep 2009 03:02:54 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=35533 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MqiLq-0007mu-IH for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Sep 2009 03:02:50 -0400 Received: from mx20.gnu.org ([199.232.41.8]:8655) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MqiLp-0003hI-Vh for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Sep 2009 03:02:50 -0400 Received: from kuber.nabble.com ([216.139.236.158]) by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MqiLo-0005cr-C6 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Sep 2009 03:02:48 -0400 Received: from tervel.nabble.com ([192.168.236.150]) by kuber.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1MqiLh-0004tx-Cx for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Sep 2009 00:02:41 -0700 Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 00:02:41 -0700 (PDT) From: legoss To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Message-ID: <1253775761388-3704490.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <4AB75FE6.2010106@cathemline.org> References: <1253288066455-3670586.post@n2.nabble.com> <220E68AE-E96D-4A4F-B4EA-4B5C75EB6E78@wanadoo.fr> <1253298857934-3671501.post@n2.nabble.com> <4AB3FE69.8040905@gmail.com> <1253363890978-3675260.post@n2.nabble.com> <4AB54BC3.7000400@cathemline.org> <1253525019094-3684064.post@n2.nabble.com> <1253525353218-3684084.post@n2.nabble.com> <4AB75FE6.2010106@cathemline.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Nabble-From: laurent.escolier@aliceadsl.fr X-detected-operating-system: by mx20.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) Subject: Re: lilypondtool introuvable X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 07:02:56 -0000 =C3=A7a y est installation faite au poil, dans le meme ordre que sous vista= . Re-:drunk: Remarque : j'ai install=C3=A9 la version 4.3pre16 de jEdit, la plus r=C3=A9= cente pr=C3=A9sente dans les d=C3=A9pots d'Ubuntu. LilypondTool y est absent dans= plugin manager. Sur la version jEdit 4.3pre17, en *.deb probl=C3=A8me r=C3=A9solu !=20 MERCI A TOUS POUR VOTRE AIDE ! :handshake: Conclusion (la mienne en tous cas) : Ce n'est pas java qui semble poser probl=C3=A8me, mais la version de jEdit.=20 --=20 View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/lilypondtool-introuvable= -tp3509641p3704490.html Sent from the LilyPond French Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Sep 24 04:41:39 2009 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1MqjtT-0007SG-GJ for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Sep 2009 04:41:39 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MqjtR-0007RW-KW for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Sep 2009 04:41:37 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MqjtN-0007Pn-0T for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Sep 2009 04:41:37 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=40369 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MqjtM-0007Ph-Qz for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Sep 2009 04:41:32 -0400 Received: from smtp4-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.4]:58570) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MqjtL-0004HH-Q6 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Sep 2009 04:41:32 -0400 Received: from smtp4-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6554E4C8134; Thu, 24 Sep 2009 10:41:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: from imac-de-philippe-perret.local (91-164-42-58.rev.libertysurf.net [91.164.42.58]) by smtp4-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31F594C80EF; Thu, 24 Sep 2009 10:41:23 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4ABB2FF8.8080204@yahoo.fr> Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 10:38:16 +0200 From: Phil User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nicolas Sceaux References: <4AB89BAC.90504@yahoo.fr> <799263C8-0227-4986-AD3D-9931BCD9D995@free.fr> <4AB96B68.2000102@yahoo.fr> <8DC89C50-66F6-4A94-ADA8-4E526FA5F462@free.fr> In-Reply-To: <8DC89C50-66F6-4A94-ADA8-4E526FA5F462@free.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Cc: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Subject: Re: Affichage conditionnel (if / else) X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 08:41:37 -0000 Hello Nicolas, Merci pour ta r=E9ponse et l'=E9l=E9gance de ta solution. Cela =E9tant j'en reviens =E0 ma question de d=E9part, car ta solution (p= our=20 laquelle je te remercie encore) ne r=E9pond qu'=E0 ces questions : - 'eqv' est l'op=E9ration =E0 utiliser pour comparer deux expressions - on peut utiliser du code Scheme (?) =E0 l'int=E9rieur d'un contexte de=20 lilypond (layout, score, TabStaff, etc.) - true s'=E9crit #t et non pas ##t dans ce contexte-l=E0 - et en bonus (=E7a c'est du grand art p=E9dagogique de ta part ;-) ) : o= n=20 peut utiliser une option de compilation dans le code lilypond pour=20 faciliter les choses. C'est d=E9j=E0 =E9norme, mais pour =EAtre tout =E0 fait combl=E9, voil=E0= ce que=20 j'aimerais savoir (d=E9sol=E9 pour la s=E9mantique, je ne suis pas un "pu= r"=20 informaticien) : 1/ Est-ce du "pur" Scheme qui est utilis=E9 dans Lilypond ? ou est-ce un=20 langage d=E9riv=E9 (de la m=EAme mani=E8re que Scheme est un langage d=E9= riv=E9 de=20 Lisp =97 du peu que j'en sache) 2/ Peut-on utiliser toutes les ressources (I mean : boucles, op=E9rateurs= ,=20 fonctions, etc. etc.) de Scheme dans le code Lilypond ? Ou y a-t-il=20 d'importantes restrictions. 3/ Quelles sont les meilleures adresses pour apprendre les bases de ce=20 langage ? (seulement si vous avez ces adresses sous la main bien=20 entendu, sinon je demanderai =E0 google) Merci pour toute aide que vous pourriez m'apporter. Bien =E0 vous tous, Phil Nicolas Sceaux a =E9crit : > > Le 23 sept. 09 =E0 02:27, Phil a =E9crit : > >> Bonjour Nicolas, >> >> Merci pour ta r=E9ponse. >> >> D=E9sol=E9 de ne pas avoir =E9t=E9 tr=E8s pr=E9cis, mais ce que je ch= erche n'est=20 pas pr=E9cis, je veux dire : ne se limite pas =E0 un cas unique. C'est un= e=20 information g=E9n=E9rale sur les ressources et la syntaxe de Scheme adapt= =E9e=20 =E0 Lilypond. > >> >> Je vais prendre un exemple extr=EAmement pr=E9cis (donc limitatif par= =20 rapport =E0 l'aide que je cherche) : >> >> Je cr=E9e des tablatures pour la guitare pour des chansons de Ane Bru= n. >> Dans son interpr=E9tation de plusieurs chansons, elle utilise un=20 open-tuning (accord ouvert) de r=E9 (c'est-=E0-dire un accordage non=20 conventionnel de la guitare). >> >> Or, il se trouve que certains de ses morceaux ne n=E9cessitent pas=20 vraiment cet accordage, peuvent =EAtre jou=E9s avec un accordage=20 traditionnel (e b g d a e). >> >> Donc, je voudrais =E0 partir d'un seul fichier lilypond pouvoir sorti= r=20 les deux versions de la tablature des-dits morceaux. >> Version 1 : la tablature du morceau en accordage normal >> Version 2 : la tablature du morceau en open-tuning >> > > Selon les cas, la technique pourra =EAtre assez diff=E9rente, et c'est > toujours plus facile de partir d'un exemple concret. > > Dans le cas que tu d=E9cris, voici comment on peut faire les choses. > > %%%%%%%%%%%%%% open-tuning-test.ly %%%%%%%%%%%%%% > \version "2.13.4" > > %% To switch to open tuning, either compile the file with > %% -dopen-tuning option, or uncomment the following line: > %%#(ly:set-option 'open-tuning #t) > > \layout { > \context { > \TabStaff > stringTunings =3D #(if (eqv? (ly:get-option 'open-tuning) #t) > '(+2 -3 -6 -10 -15 -22) > '(+4 -1 -5 -10 -15 -20)) > } > } > > \new TabStaff { c' d' e' f' } > %%%%%%%%%%%%%% open-tuning-test.ly %%%%%%%%%%%%%% > > Les deux cas sont atteints de la mani=E8re suivante : > > lilypond open-tuning-test.ly > =3D=3D> tablatures avec accordage normal > > lilypond -dopen-tuning open-tuning-test.ly > =3D=3D> tablatures avec accordage open tuning > > Nicolas From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Sep 24 04:46:21 2009 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1Mqjy1-0000UC-6y for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Sep 2009 04:46:21 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mqjxy-0000TC-U7 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Sep 2009 04:46:18 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mqjxt-0000Rs-Rc for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Sep 2009 04:46:18 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=42244 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Mqjxt-0000Rp-Dy for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Sep 2009 04:46:13 -0400 Received: from mx-out.libertysurf.net ([213.36.80.91]:43250 helo=mail.libertysurf.fr) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Mqjxs-0006Se-QL for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Sep 2009 04:46:13 -0400 Received: from imac-de-philippe-perret.local (91.164.42.58) by mail.libertysurf.fr (8.5.016.1) id 4AB12860002F1CE1; Thu, 24 Sep 2009 11:28:01 +0200 Message-ID: <4ABB3116.70005@yahoo.fr> Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 10:43:02 +0200 From: Phil User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Valentin Villenave References: <4AB89BAC.90504@yahoo.fr> <799263C8-0227-4986-AD3D-9931BCD9D995@free.fr> <4AB96B68.2000102@yahoo.fr> <8DC89C50-66F6-4A94-ADA8-4E526FA5F462@free.fr> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Cc: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Subject: Re: Affichage conditionnel (if / else) X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 08:46:19 -0000 Bonjour Valentin, > en faire > b=C3=A9n=C3=A9ficier toute la communaut=C3=A9 en les ajoutant sur le L= ilyPond Snippet > Repository ! Le probl=C3=A8me est que je suis tout nouveau sur votre site, je n'en con= nais=20 pas encore la d=C3=A9ontologie et la philosophie, ni les besoins propres,= et=20 il m'est donc tr=C3=A8s difficile d'estimer la pertinence de ce type de=20 fonction=E2=80=A6 J'ai l'impression qu'elle reste par trop particuli=C3=A8= re, et je=20 ne voudrais pas polluer. J'irai jeter un =C5=93il aux codes concernant d=C3=A9j=C3=A0 les open-tun= ings. Bien =C3=A0 vous, Phil Valentin Villenave a =C3=A9crit : > Et un petit bonus pour Phil (si je puis me permettre) : si de telles > fonctions vous semblent int=C3=A9ressantes, n'h=C3=A9sitez pas =C3=A0 = en faire > b=C3=A9n=C3=A9ficier toute la communaut=C3=A9 en les ajoutant sur le L= ilyPond Snippet > Repository ! > http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/ > > Cordialement, > Valentin > From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Sep 24 06:52:02 2009 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1Mqlvd-0007gc-Pn for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Sep 2009 06:52:01 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mqlvb-0007gP-Kq for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Sep 2009 06:51:59 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MqlvZ-0007eT-MN for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Sep 2009 06:51:58 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=59555 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MqlvZ-0007eD-G5 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Sep 2009 06:51:57 -0400 Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com ([72.14.220.157]:29260) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MqlvY-0005lP-Ps for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Sep 2009 06:51:56 -0400 Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id e21so1603726fga.12 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 2009 03:51:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=J69xbauNein4hqCNSDNbrBp8pVlTW7jfLCo0oFHYlVs=; b=G+60zggqI126USMsLaaSNXmTYkMpBk/dZV0ETb4HjjE7ylm7jo8Uo73wrOd8qGCksq 3i8hupfimaxzy9sv8jBMivCQlcg+DM5QsCvRdcnk4x45ZRolbxkM+mSpdGGv20t1Ay1r U5SQBmGU6SfxW5Z87w3M2eLgzzqL5g833Dov8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=qJ1cZvAtmTBLogQ/kVDpUyL9R0P5nYAslBV2nXgSwQEB/NBMVWXSMgJVup89qteqDX jl14RKT4HIfmEBXYmyL8YN+FrkMXp/0H7ea9kpQLnWFfK4cmEoLMQOAXi04pSRDfCOOb l4lo41ay7PBW/YtXksPTfhKtaTdA+CLG9ttNw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.86.225.38 with SMTP id x38mr2877719fgg.59.1253789512668; Thu, 24 Sep 2009 03:51:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4ABB3116.70005@yahoo.fr> References: <4AB89BAC.90504@yahoo.fr> <799263C8-0227-4986-AD3D-9931BCD9D995@free.fr> <4AB96B68.2000102@yahoo.fr> <8DC89C50-66F6-4A94-ADA8-4E526FA5F462@free.fr> <4ABB3116.70005@yahoo.fr> Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 12:51:52 +0200 Message-ID: From: Valentin Villenave To: Phil Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) Cc: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Subject: Re: Affichage conditionnel (if / else) X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 10:51:59 -0000 2009/9/24 Phil : > Le probl=C3=A8me est que je suis tout nouveau sur votre site, je n'en con= nais pas > encore la d=C3=A9ontologie et la philosophie, ni les besoins propres, et = il m'est > donc tr=C3=A8s difficile d'estimer la pertinence de ce type de fonction= =E2=80=A6 J'ai > l'impression qu'elle reste par trop particuli=C3=A8re, et je ne voudrais = pas > polluer. Bien au contraire, sans quoi je ne vous l'aurais pas sugg=C3=A9r=C3=A9. La premi=C3=A8re =C3=A9tape est de vous cr=C3=A9er un compte sur https://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/list.php?type=3Dusr Puis d'aller sur https://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/list.php?type=3Dsnippet et de cr=C3=A9er votre "snippet" : un exemple minimum (comme celui de Nicolas), un titre et une br=C3=A8ve description. Il y a =C3=A9galement des "tags" que vous pouvez choisir dans la liste : en l'occurence le tag "fretted strings" serait tout indiqu=C3=A9. De toute fa=C3=A7on, tous les snippets post=C3=A9s ainsi doivent =C3=AAtre = valid=C3=A9s et corrig=C3=A9s si n=C3=A9cessaire par le responsable du LSR (en l'occurrence votre serviteur), donc n'h=C3=A9sitez pas =C3=A0 prendre de telles initiati= ves. Cordialement, Valentin Villenave. 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(VPS 090923-0, 23/09/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Subject: Re: Re: Texte et Lilypond X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: christophe_cgy.godefroy@laposte.net List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 11:27:55 -0000 salut a tous,

j'ai utilisé lilypond dans des fichiers Latex. ça fonctionne très bien dès que tu as compris comment cela doit être utilisé. ma configuration est la suivante :
Windows XP
winedt
MiKTeX

voilà un exemple de code qui fonctionne:


\section{Les {\oe}uvres étudiés}
\subsection{Kis Korál}
Kis Korál est une petite pièce extraite des \emph{jeux} de Kurtág. \emph{Les Jeux} ont été écrits pour que les enfants
prennent la partition spontanément, qu'ils expérimentent les sons et caressent le piano. \emph{Les Jeux} sont un ensemble de
petites pièces didactiques. pour Kurtág, jouer c'est juste jouer. Cela require une grande liberté et de l'initiative. Kurtág
laisse venir les ides et les retranscrit tel quel. \emph{Les jeux} sont aussi appelés \emph{microludes} faut-il y voir un
hommage à Bartók\index{Bartok@Bela Bartók} (\emph{microcosmos}) qui a très largement influencé la musique de Kurtág?\newline
Kis Korál est une rencontre entre l'harmonie et le contrepoint. On peut en faire aussi bien une lecture verticale que
mélodique. Le premier système est une game diatonique de DO descendante.

\lilypondfile{Kurtag_sys1.ly}

Sur la dernière mesure, l'apparition du Ré à la main droite donne envie de monter ce qui introduit le 2ieme système avec une
gamme de Do $\sharp$ cette fois montante:

\lilypondfile{Kurtag_sys2.ly}

avec Kurtag_sys1.ly

\version "2.12.1"
\header {
    }

\include "italiano.ly"
TimeKey = { \key sib \minor \time 4/2}

#(set-global-staff-size 17)

One= \relative do'' {
              do1
            <si do>
            <si do>
            <si do>
            <si do>
            <la si do>
            <la si do>
            <sol la si do re> \fermata
             \bar "|."   
}
Two= \relative la' {
            r1
                  r1
                la
            <sol la>
            <fa sol la>
            <mi fa sol>
            <re mi fa sol>
            <do re mi fa sol> \fermata
              }

\score {
        \context PianoStaff
    <<
    \new PianoStaff <<
        \set PianoStaff.instrumentName = \markup{ \fontsize #2 {"Piano"}
        \hspace #1.0 }
        \context Staff=upper \One
        \context Staff=lower \Two
          >>
    >>
\layout {}
}


ensuite tu compiles avec lilypond book ( lilypond-book --output=out --pdf Analyse_A1.tex ) et tu obtiendras un truc du style :

{%
\parindent 0pt%
\ifx\preLilyPondExample \undefined%
 \relax%
\else%
 \preLilyPondExample%
\fi%
\def\lilypondbook{}%
\input ee/lily-375bd95b-systems.tex%
\ifx\postLilyPondExample \undefined%
 \relax%
\else%
 \postLilyPondExample%
\fi%
}

Sur la dernière mesure, l'apparition du Ré à la main droite donne envie de monter ce qui introduit le 2ieme système avec une
gamme de Do $\sharp$ cette fois montante:

{%
\parindent 0pt%
\ifx\preLilyPondExample \undefined%
 \relax%
\else%
 \preLilyPondExample%
\fi%
\def\lilypondbook{}%
\input 57/lily-cabf1864-systems.tex%
\ifx\postLilyPondExample \undefined%
 \relax%
\else%
 \postLilyPondExample%
\fi%
}

que je compile alors avec winedt et il me génère un fichier PDF tout à fait agréable à lire.
est-ce que cela t'aide ?


a+
christophe




Xavier Scheuer a écrit :
<div class="moz-text-flowed" style="font-family: -moz-fixed">Dites vous aviez remarqué que vous étiez sur la mailing-list anglophone (lilypond-user@gnu.org) ?

Pierre-Yves, si tu veux poser tes questions en français (et que les autres utilisateurs francophones puissent te lire et te répondre, en français également), utilise plutôt la liste de diffusion francophone (lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org) avec le "-fr" après le "user".  ;-)

So let's go on lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org...


Pierre-Yves Gousenbourger a écrit :
Bonsoir.

Je cherche un moyen de créer un document texte dans lequel j'insère des objets Lilypond (des petites partitions/portées par-ci par-là).
J'ai trouvé sur la doc une partie qui parle de lilypond-book. Mais ça commence à devenir incompréhensible quand ça parle de lignes de commandes.

Sachant que j'ai Windows XP (et pas Linux, donc plus difficilement accès aux lignes de commande), et que je possède LaTeX... quelqu'un pourrait m'aider :( ? Siouplé...

Pierre-Yves


Valentin Villenave a écrit :
Bonsoir,

LilyPond-book est un outil extraordinaire mais relativement
complexe... il existe encore plus simple : si vous utilisez
OpenOffice, un plugin du nom de http://ooolilypond.sourceforge.net
peut vous permettre d'intégrer facilement des fragments de partition
dans votre document. (Il existe également la même chose pour Scribus.)

Cependant LilyPond-book fonctionne sans trop de mal sous Windows (mais
je laisserai quelqu'un d'autre vous renseigner, moi dès que je vois
deux lignes de laTeX je fuis en criant).

Cordialement,
Valentin Villenave.


Je me souviens avoir utilisé (il y a bien longtemps) lilypond-book sans trop de problème. Mais il me semble que c'était sous Linux (en général je fais du LaTeX sous Linux, avec Kile).

Pierre-Yves, tu utilises quoi pour LaTeX sous Windows ? MiKTeX ? TeXnicCenter ou un autre éditeur ?
Je vais y jeter un coup d'œil la prochaine fois que je boote sous Windows (dans les prochains jours).

Cordialement,


Xavier



</div>

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Cc: Lilypond-fr Subject: Re: Affichage conditionnel (if / else) X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 13:46:48 -0000 >1/ Est-ce du "pur" Scheme qui est utilis=E9 dans Lilypond ? ou est-ce un >langage d=E9riv=E9 (de la m=EAme mani=E8re que Scheme est un langage d=E9= riv=E9 de >Lisp =97 du peu que j'en sache) Je peux pas te r=E9pondre sur ma "puret=E9" du scheme, mais simplement qu= e Lilypond utilise Guile dont le manuel d'utilisation est ici : http://www.gnu.org/software/guile/manual/guile.html et en prticulier le chapitre 5 : http://www.gnu.org/software/guile/manual/guile.html#API-Reference >2/ Peut-on utiliser toutes les ressources (I mean : boucles, op=E9rateur= s, >fonctions, etc. etc.) de Scheme dans le code Lilypond ? A chaque fois que j'ai voulu utiliser les fonctions d=E9crites dans le li= en ci-dessus, =E7a a march=E9 ! ( euh enfin si, parfois =E7a plante, mais c= 'est toujours une erreur de programation de ma part et non celle d'un non-supp= ort d'une fonction Guile dans Lilypond) >- 'eqv' est l'op=E9ration =E0 utiliser pour comparer deux expressions Si tu veux en savoir plus sur les =E9galit=E9s, rendez-vous =E0 http://www.gnu.org/software/guile/manual/guile.html#Equality < - true s'=E9crit #t et non pas ##t dans ce contexte-l=E0 Dans Lilypond, on introduit du code Scheme (donc interpr=E9t=E9 par Guile= ) a l'aide du caract=E8re #. Comme en Scheme, true et false se code #t et #f on peut se retrouver ave= c 2 # dans du code Lilypond : Par exemple : \override NoteHead.stencil =3D ##f mais on aura #(define une-variable #f) Petite indication, th=E9oriquement on peut taper du code Scheme sans pass= er par Lilypond, en tapant : guile en ligne de commande, mais =E7a ne marche pas directement sous Windows : (pas chez moi en tout cas : ERROR: In procedure primitive-load-path: ERROR: Unable to find file "ice-9/boot-9.scm" in load path). Une astuce consiste a cr=E9er un script (lanceGuile.bat par exemple) ave= c la commande start qui permet de sp=E9cifier un r=E9pertoire de d=E9marrage : start "" /B /D c:\Lilypond\usr guile (modifier le chemin de Lilypond\usr selon sa config.) Pour lancer un fichier *.scm, il faut rajouter l'option -l start "" /B /D c:\Lilypond\usr guile -l %1 Gilles From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Sep 24 10:04:19 2009 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1Mqovj-0007oS-Gj for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Sep 2009 10:04:19 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mqovh-0007nc-It for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Sep 2009 10:04:17 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mqovf-0007mn-MR for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Sep 2009 10:04:17 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=57608 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Mqovf-0007mh-HB for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Sep 2009 10:04:15 -0400 Received: from smtp23.services.sfr.fr ([93.17.128.19]:28851) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Mqove-00011o-Qj for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Sep 2009 10:04:15 -0400 Received: from filter.sfr.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by msfrf2303.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id B752A70000A6; Thu, 24 Sep 2009 16:04:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: from pc64 (93.254.66-86.rev.gaoland.net [86.66.254.93]) by msfrf2303.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 5EFA870000A3; Thu, 24 Sep 2009 16:04:13 +0200 (CEST) X-SFR-UUID: 20090924140413389.5EFA870000A3@msfrf2303.sfr.fr Message-ID: From: "Gilles THIBAULT" To: "Gilles THIBAULT" , "Phil" , "Nicolas Sceaux" References: <4AB89BAC.90504@yahoo.fr><799263C8-0227-4986-AD3D-9931BCD9D995@free.fr><4AB96B68.2000102@yahoo.fr><8DC89C50-66F6-4A94-ADA8-4E526FA5F462@free.fr><4ABB2FF8.8080204@yahoo.fr> Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 16:04:21 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=original X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. Cc: Lilypond-fr Subject: Re: Affichage conditionnel (if / else) X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 14:04:17 -0000 > Je peux pas te r=E9pondre sur ma "puret=E9" du scheme Euh, il fallait lire sur LA puret=E9 du Scheme ... D=E9sol=E9 ... Gilles From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Sep 24 10:12:52 2009 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1Mqp40-0003Fz-Iu for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Sep 2009 10:12:52 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mqp3y-0003Dw-RC for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Sep 2009 10:12:50 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mqp3u-00035s-3G for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Sep 2009 10:12:50 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=56385 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Mqp3t-00035e-Rn for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Sep 2009 10:12:45 -0400 Received: from smtp4-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.4]:48687) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Mqp3s-0002kA-Dp for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Sep 2009 10:12:45 -0400 Received: from smtp4-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAC714C8025; Thu, 24 Sep 2009 16:12:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: from imac-de-philippe-perret.local (91-164-42-58.rev.libertysurf.net [91.164.42.58]) by smtp4-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9836D4C80DB; Thu, 24 Sep 2009 16:12:36 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4ABB7D99.1090309@yahoo.fr> Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 16:09:29 +0200 From: Phil User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gilles THIBAULT References: <4AB89BAC.90504@yahoo.fr><799263C8-0227-4986-AD3D-9931BCD9D995@free.fr><4AB96B68.2000102@yahoo.fr><8DC89C50-66F6-4A94-ADA8-4E526FA5F462@free.fr> <4ABB2FF8.8080204@yahoo.fr> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Cc: Lilypond-fr Subject: Re: Affichage conditionnel (if / else) X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 14:12:51 -0000 Bonjour Gilles, Un grand merci =E0 toi, ce sont exactement les informations et=20 renseignements que je cherchais ! Voil=E0, je suis combl=E9 ;-) Phil Gilles THIBAULT a =E9crit : > > >> 1/ Est-ce du "pur" Scheme qui est utilis=E9 dans Lilypond ? ou est-ce = un >> langage d=E9riv=E9 (de la m=EAme mani=E8re que Scheme est un langage d= =E9riv=E9 de >> Lisp =97 du peu que j'en sache) > Je peux pas te r=E9pondre sur ma "puret=E9" du scheme, mais simplement = que > Lilypond utilise Guile dont > le manuel d'utilisation est ici : > http://www.gnu.org/software/guile/manual/guile.html > et en prticulier le chapitre 5 : > http://www.gnu.org/software/guile/manual/guile.html#API-Reference > > >> 2/ Peut-on utiliser toutes les ressources (I mean : boucles, op=E9rate= urs, >> fonctions, etc. etc.) de Scheme dans le code Lilypond ? > A chaque fois que j'ai voulu utiliser les fonctions d=E9crites dans le = lien > ci-dessus, =E7a a march=E9 ! ( euh enfin si, parfois =E7a plante, mais= c'est > toujours une erreur de programation de ma part et non celle d'un=20 > non-support > d'une fonction Guile dans Lilypond) > > >> - 'eqv' est l'op=E9ration =E0 utiliser pour comparer deux expressions > Si tu veux en savoir plus sur les =E9galit=E9s, rendez-vous =E0 > http://www.gnu.org/software/guile/manual/guile.html#Equality > < - true s'=E9crit #t et non pas ##t dans ce contexte-l=E0 > Dans Lilypond, on introduit du code Scheme (donc interpr=E9t=E9 par Gui= le) a > l'aide du caract=E8re #. > Comme en Scheme, true et false se code #t et #f on peut se retrouver=20 > avec 2 > # dans du code Lilypond : > Par exemple : > \override NoteHead.stencil =3D ##f > mais on aura > #(define une-variable #f) > > Petite indication, th=E9oriquement on peut taper du code Scheme sans pa= sser > par Lilypond, en tapant : > guile > en ligne de commande, mais =E7a ne marche pas directement sous Windows = : > (pas chez moi en tout cas : > ERROR: In procedure primitive-load-path: > ERROR: Unable to find file "ice-9/boot-9.scm" in load path). > Une astuce consiste a cr=E9er un script (lanceGuile.bat par exemple)=20 > avec la > commande start qui permet de sp=E9cifier un r=E9pertoire de d=E9marrage= : > start "" /B /D c:\Lilypond\usr guile > (modifier le chemin de Lilypond\usr selon sa config.) > > Pour lancer un fichier *.scm, il faut rajouter l'option -l > start "" /B /D c:\Lilypond\usr guile -l %1 > > Gilles > > > From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Sep 24 10:31:56 2009 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1MqpMS-0002AM-O7 for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Sep 2009 10:31:56 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MqpMQ-000295-H3 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Sep 2009 10:31:54 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MqpML-000258-LH for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Sep 2009 10:31:53 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=35196 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MqpML-00024t-Gv for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Sep 2009 10:31:49 -0400 Received: from smtp1-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.1]:48713) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MqpMK-00067A-4E for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Sep 2009 10:31:49 -0400 Received: from smtp1-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp1-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F547940188 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 2009 16:31:43 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [88.184.126.48] (gan34-1-88-184-126-48.fbx.proxad.net [88.184.126.48]) by smtp1-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82A56940128 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 2009 16:31:41 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4ABB830B.3010802@free.fr> Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 16:32:43 +0200 From: Philippe Hezaine User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090921) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lilypond-fr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Subject: Le nouveau Puzzle du Batteur: =?utf-8?b?McOocmUgw6lkaXRpb24u?= X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 14:31:55 -0000 Bonjour =C3=A0 tous, Voici la toute nouvelle version du Puzzle du Batteur-The Drummer's Gigsaw= . Elle est maintenant sous license GPLv3 et + et pour le moment seulement disponible sous Linux. N'ayant plus grand chose =C3=A0 voir avec les versions ant=C3=A9rieures, = la premi=C3=A8re chose =C3=A0 faire sera de lire le LISEZ-MOI. Tout retour d'exp=C3=A9rience, toute id=C3=A9e d'am=C3=A9lioration, toute= critique qui vous passe par la t=C3=AAte sera bien s=C3=BBr la bienvenue. Vous pouvez la t=C3=A9l=C3=A9charger ici: (archive tar.bz2) http://philippe.hezaine.free.fr/spip.php?article46 Ayez du bonheur. --=20 Phil. 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Cc: lilypondeurs , Pierre-Yves Gousenbourger Subject: Re: Texte et Lilypond X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 21:34:13 -0000 Bonsoir configuration winXP MiTex Voici comment je proc=C3=A8de Apr=C3=A8s avoir =C3=A9cris mon fichier tex =C3=A0 l'exemple du message p= r=C3=A9c=C3=A9dent %%-----------------------test.lytex \documentclass[a4paper]{proc} \usepackage[french]{babel} \usepackage[T1]{fontenc} \title{ Ma belle Partition } \begin{document} \maketitle J'=C3=A9dite en \LaTeX{}!\\ et que c'est bien n'est--ce pas ?\\ \begin{lilypond} \new Staff << \relative c'{ c4 e g c_"vive LateX" } >> \end{lilypond} \end{document} %%-------------------- Je fait un fichier batch. C'est =C3=A0 dire un fichier texte enregistrer sous compile.bat Dans ce fichier d'appel %%-------------------------compile.bat lilypond-book.py --output=3Dout --pdf test.lytex cd out pdflatex test.tex del /S *.aux;*.out;*.log;*.bbl;*.blg;*.dvi; %%-------------------------- j'enregistre les fichiers *.lytex et *.bat dans le m=C3=AAme dossier Il reste a cliquer sur le fichier *bat et hop : lilypond-book.py compile, puis Mitex ... le fichier test.pdf se trouve dans le dossier out qui vient d'=C3=AAtre c= r=C3=A9=C3=A9 --=20 Martial From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Sep 25 07:06:26 2009 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1Mr8d7-00041f-T0 for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Sep 2009 07:06:25 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MqoLd-0004wM-3D for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Sep 2009 09:27:01 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MqoLX-0004tY-Cl for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Sep 2009 09:26:59 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=44612 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MqoLX-0004tT-6T for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Sep 2009 09:26:55 -0400 Received: from eir.is.scarlet.be ([193.74.71.27]:35807) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MqoLW-0001p0-KH for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Sep 2009 09:26:55 -0400 Received: from OCTAVE (ip-62-235-208-198.dsl.scarlet.be [62.235.208.198]) by eir.is.scarlet.be (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n8ODQnvs032171 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 2009 15:26:49 +0200 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=scarlet.be; s=scarlet; t=1253798810; bh=cOzj2kwtElzvUneHphY4+1zKCMDAXlPGKnEBO/NZNdw=; h=From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=DuBTjuPqMrwCGkLJ8tie+6OMSCS4DX5lZ2uFADNmRtnJGR+lCn1Zh2/V6oBBkfq/C i1nuZmqT5kuB1YN9mpF5ZSO8d44gJNXTcDE1uHjO226AUSXT1zvIV/h4Qsw9QxT4bO 1+S8ZGC39tKWeBo4bQ629tfafcWDnYYo8qjpcrrU= From: "Pierre-Yves Gousenbourger" To: Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 15:26:48 +0200 Message-ID: <000c01ca3d1a$ac69a850$33de020a@OCTAVE> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000D_01CA3D2B.6FF27850" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Aco9GqqyKHhCy6f0TxGTlYzspJ+Y7Q== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090923-0, 23/09/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: eir 20001; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 07:06:24 -0400 Subject: Lilypond VS LaTeX X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 13:27:01 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01CA3D2B.6FF27850 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Parce que je me suis tromp=E9 de page, je m=92excuse d=E9j=E0 platement. =20 Cela =E9tant, je repose ma question ici, histoire que tout le monde = puisse la voir : =20 Je doit r=E9aliser un document texte dans lequel je voudrais ins=E9rer = des partitions que j=92=E9dite avec Lilypond. Pour faire ce texte, j=92utilise LaTeX, puisqu=92il semble qu=92il y a = un moyen d=92ins=E9rer des codes lilypond dedans (avec un truc qui s=92appelle Lilypond-book). Je n=92ai =E0 peu pr=E8s rien compris de ce qui =E9tait =E9crit sur le = site=85 =20 Pour le moment, je fais un printscreen des fichiers PDF (honte sur moi), = et j=92ajoute l=92image (retouch=E9e) dans LaTeX. J=92utilise MikTeX. =20 Pourriez-vous m=92informer de la m=E9thode =E0 suivre pour arriver =E0 = mettre des partitions dans un texte ? Je commence vraiment =E0 d=E9sesp=E9rer. Merci beaucoup, d=92avance. =20 Pierre-Yves =20 PS : merci d=E9j=E0 =E0 ceux qui ont r=E9pondu, mais =E7a ne r=E9pondait = pas vraiment =E0 ma question=85 =20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01CA3D2B.6FF27850 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Parce que je me suis tromp=E9 de page, je = m’excuse d=E9j=E0 platement.

 

Cela =E9tant, je repose ma question ici, = histoire que tout le monde puisse la voir :

 

Je doit r=E9aliser un document texte dans = lequel je voudrais ins=E9rer des partitions que j’=E9dite avec = Lilypond.

Pour faire ce texte, j’utilise LaTeX, = puisqu’il semble qu’il y a un moyen d’ins=E9rer des codes lilypond = dedans (avec un truc qui s’appelle Lilypond-book).

Je n’ai =E0 peu pr=E8s rien compris de = ce qui =E9tait =E9crit sur le site…

 

Pour le moment, je fais un printscreen des = fichiers PDF (honte sur moi), et j’ajoute l’image (retouch=E9e) dans = LaTeX. =A0J’utilise MikTeX.

 

Pourriez-vous m’informer de la = m=E9thode =E0 suivre pour arriver =E0 mettre des partitions dans un texte ? Je = commence vraiment =E0 d=E9sesp=E9rer.

Merci beaucoup, = d’avance.

 

Pierre-Yves

 

PS : merci d=E9j=E0 =E0 ceux qui ont = r=E9pondu, mais =E7a ne r=E9pondait pas vraiment =E0 ma = question…

 

 

------=_NextPart_000_000D_01CA3D2B.6FF27850-- From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Sep 25 07:48:55 2009 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1Mr9IE-00031l-9t for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Sep 2009 07:48:54 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mr9IA-00031I-Ho for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Sep 2009 07:48:50 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mr9I4-00030b-HD for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Sep 2009 07:48:49 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=36540 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Mr9I3-00030P-NJ for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Sep 2009 07:48:44 -0400 Received: from mail11.bluewin.ch ([195.186.18.61]:7820) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Mr9I3-0000SA-67 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Sep 2009 07:48:43 -0400 X-FXIT-IP: IPv4[62.202.95.10] Epoch[1253879319] Received: from [62.202.95.10] ([62.202.95.10:11321] helo=bameylan-desktop.localnet) by mail11.bluewin.ch (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.41 r(31179/31189)) with ESMTP id 17/92-21946-71EACBA4; Fri, 25 Sep 2009 11:48:39 +0000 From: Bernard Meylan Organization: The Barock'n Roll Office To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 13:48:40 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.2 (Linux/2.6.28-15-generic; KDE/4.2.2; i686; ; ) References: <000c01ca3d1a$ac69a850$33de020a@OCTAVE> In-Reply-To: <000c01ca3d1a$ac69a850$33de020a@OCTAVE> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200909251348.40309.bameylan@bluewin.ch> X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. Subject: Re: Lilypond VS LaTeX X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 11:48:52 -0000 Le jeudi, 24 septembre 2009 15.26:48 Pierre-Yves Gousenbourger, vous avez = =E9crit : > Je doit r=E9aliser un document texte dans lequel je voudrais ins=E9rer des > partitions que j=92=E9dite avec Lilypond. > > Pourriez-vous m=92informer de la m=E9thode =E0 suivre pour arriver =E0 me= ttre des > partitions dans un texte ? Je commence vraiment =E0 d=E9sesp=E9rer. Je n'ai pas lu (ou pas remarqu=E9) les r=E9ponses qui t'ont =E9t=E9 faites,= mais: as-tu OpenOffice?=20 parce qu'avec traitement de texte tu as un outil appel=E9 OOoLilyPond (=20 http://ooolilypond.sourceforge.net/ ); tu cr=E9es ton document texte, puis,= =E0 l'endroit=20 voulu, tu presses un petit bouton (Oly) et tu as un =E9cran qui s'ouvre, et= l=E0 tu tapes ton=20 code LilyPond pour obtenir tes partitions. Bernard=20 From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Sep 25 08:16:55 2009 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1Mr9jL-0004N2-Hk for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Sep 2009 08:16:55 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mr9jH-0004MW-T2 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Sep 2009 08:16:51 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mr9jC-0004Lp-K8 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Sep 2009 08:16:51 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=48814 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Mr9jC-0004Lk-AB for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Sep 2009 08:16:46 -0400 Received: from smtp20.orange.fr ([80.12.242.26]:29531) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Mr9jB-0005eR-NV for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Sep 2009 08:16:45 -0400 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2017.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id B193720000B0; Fri, 25 Sep 2009 14:16:44 +0200 (CEST) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2017.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id A48D020000BB; Fri, 25 Sep 2009 14:16:44 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.102] (ALagny-153-1-49-136.w86-218.abo.wanadoo.fr [86.218.24.136]) by mwinf2017.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 4FDA120000B0; Fri, 25 Sep 2009 14:16:44 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20090925121644327.4FDA120000B0@mwinf2017.orange.fr Message-ID: <4ABCB499.10104@cathemline.org> Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 14:16:25 +0200 From: Martial User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bernard Meylan References: <000c01ca3d1a$ac69a850$33de020a@OCTAVE> <200909251348.40309.bameylan@bluewin.ch> In-Reply-To: <200909251348.40309.bameylan@bluewin.ch> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. Cc: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Subject: Re: Lilypond VS LaTeX X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 12:16:52 -0000 > Je doit r=C3=A9aliser un document texte dans lequel je voudrais ins=C3= =A9rer des > partitions que j=E2=80=99=C3=A9dite avec Lilypond. Il y a une solution simple : Utiliser OpenOffice http://fr.openoffice.org/ installer OpenOffice puis t=C3=A9l=C3=A9charger le plugin OoLilyPond http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/node/2533 pour installer cliquer sur le fichier t=C3=A9l=C3=A9charg=C3=A9 Il y aura un bouton Oly en plus dans la barre de menu clic dessus pour ins=C3=A9rer de la musique > Pour faire ce texte, j=E2=80=99utilise LaTeX, puisqu=E2=80=99il semble= qu=E2=80=99il y a un > moyen d=E2=80=99ins=C3=A9rer des codes lilypond dedans (avec un truc q= ui s=E2=80=99appelle > Lilypond-book). avec winXP MikTex et lilyPond pour ins=C3=A9rer de la musique dans du Latex En partant du principe que l'on sait utiliser LaTex (ce que je ne sais pas bien) ins=C3=A9rer la partie LilyPond dans les scrips laTex apr=C3=A8s \begin{document] \begin {lilypond} blabla bal \end{lilypond} exemple %%%-------------test.lytex \documentclass[12pt]{article} \usepackage[latin1]{inputenc} \title{ Ma belle Partextion } \begin{document} \maketitle %%Le texte \paragraph{} J'=C3=A9dite en \LaTeX et que c'est bien n'est-ce pas ?\\ %%La musique \begin{lilypond} \new Staff << \relative c'{ c4 e g c_"vive LilyPondtex" } >> \end{lilypond} \paragraph{} Ben =C3=A7a marche ! \end{document} %%%----------------------- enregistrer sous test.lytex pour compiler faire un fichier compile.bat exemple simple rem------------compile.bat lilypond-book.py --pdf test.lytex pdflatex test.tex rem---------------------- mettre le fichier lytex et bat dans le m=C3=AAme dossier y'a plus ka cliquer sur le fichier compile.bat ! --=20 Martial From MAILER-DAEMON Sat Sep 26 06:03:59 2009 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1MrU8F-00081l-Mq for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Sep 2009 06:03:59 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MrU8D-00081g-IA for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Sep 2009 06:03:57 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MrU8A-00081M-00 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Sep 2009 06:03:57 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=59415 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MrU89-00081J-Lc for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Sep 2009 06:03:53 -0400 Received: from smtp20.orange.fr ([193.252.22.31]:35094) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MrU89-0004DZ-3j for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Sep 2009 06:03:53 -0400 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2022.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 97D902000046 for ; Sat, 26 Sep 2009 12:03:50 +0200 (CEST) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2022.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 38738200004F; Sat, 26 Sep 2009 12:03:50 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.102] (ALagny-153-1-49-136.w86-218.abo.wanadoo.fr [86.218.24.136]) by mwinf2022.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id E46FF200004C; Sat, 26 Sep 2009 12:03:49 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20090926100349935.E46FF200004C@mwinf2022.orange.fr Message-ID: <4ABDE6EF.2060700@cathemline.org> Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 12:03:27 +0200 From: Martial User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Fred.Bousquet" References: <20090719183121.7B00.3B78A5C2@wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <20090719183121.7B00.3B78A5C2@wanadoo.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. Cc: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Subject: OOolilypond X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 10:03:58 -0000 Je reviens sur cette question voici la solutions : il suffit de ne pas mettre entre score { ... } \new Staff \with {\remove "Time_signature_engraver" } { c' d' e' f' g' f' e' d' c' } lilypond version "2.13.4 OOoLilyPond version 0.4.0 > je cherche depuis une bonne heure... > comment supprimer l'indication de mesure dans un document openoffice, > avec OOolilypond, et je s=E8che lamentablement. >=20 > Autant c'est facile avec lilypond,=20 > http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=3D165 >=20 > autant je ne vois pas du tout comment faire ! > Si vous avez une id=E9e, je vous en serai extr=EAmement reconnaissante.= .. >=20 > version "2.12.2 lilypond > version OOoLilyPond 0.4.0 --=20 Martial From MAILER-DAEMON Sat Sep 26 06:45:40 2009 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1MrUma-00027M-0M for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Sep 2009 06:45:40 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MrUmV-00026R-2c for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Sep 2009 06:45:35 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MrUmP-000259-EB for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Sep 2009 06:45:34 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=35057 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MrUmN-00024l-Cv for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Sep 2009 06:45:27 -0400 Received: from smtp20.orange.fr ([193.252.22.31]:47806) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MrUef-0002Sa-AH for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Sep 2009 06:37:29 -0400 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2019.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id ADBAB2000045 for ; Sat, 26 Sep 2009 12:37:27 +0200 (CEST) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2019.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id A0E15200004C for ; Sat, 26 Sep 2009 12:37:27 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.102] (ALagny-153-1-49-136.w86-218.abo.wanadoo.fr [86.218.24.136]) by mwinf2019.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 620092000045 for ; Sat, 26 Sep 2009 12:37:27 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20090926103727401.620092000045@mwinf2019.orange.fr Message-ID: <4ABDEED1.5050306@cathemline.org> Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 12:37:05 +0200 From: Martial User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. Subject: Croches Par Deux X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 10:45:35 -0000 Bonjour nouvelle version 2.13.4 Il semble que : 1) Les croches ne sont plus li=C3=A9 2/2 2) #(override-auto-beam-setting ... n'est plus support=C3=A9 du coup la syntaxe est la suivante : %%-------------------------------------- CrochesParDeux =3D { %\overrideBeamSettings #'Score #'(2 . 4) #'end #'((* . ( 1 1))) \overrideBeamSettings #'Score #'(3 . 4) #'end #'((* . ( 1 1 1))) \overrideBeamSettings #'Score #'(4 . 4) #'end #'((* . ( 1 1 1 1))) } \relative c'{ %\CrochesParDeux \time 2/4 c8 c c c | c c c c \break \time 3/4 =09 c8 c c c c c | c c c c c c \break \time 4/4 c8 c c c c c c c | c8 c c c c c c c } %%----------------------------------- --=20 Martial From MAILER-DAEMON Sat Sep 26 13:02:14 2009 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1Mraf0-000490-OH for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Sep 2009 13:02:14 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mraez-00048n-Jc for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Sep 2009 13:02:13 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mraeu-00046o-RD for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Sep 2009 13:02:13 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=47773 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Mraeu-00046k-Nl for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Sep 2009 13:02:08 -0400 Received: from mail-vw0-f187.google.com ([209.85.212.187]:63632) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Mraeu-00042I-0Y for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Sep 2009 13:02:08 -0400 Received: by vws17 with SMTP id 17so1672811vws.24 for ; Sat, 26 Sep 2009 10:02:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=9Fedkq/BGVieJwIoItsQQwJHRC07afe23IMt9TCqI/o=; b=PM2uZrZLdYNUF/9dzZmPsJSAJ50p0McEoco3tlIqI2vJoGG67rDk/FJTkk9J5+E9rq S7NTUAUR/z8PCcaN9PSS/gYh54t+5Iu+THsTXEpMQoC90JmbpbWpuLBow+D4InNWbskK b7/IBFfnxkLj5G9bXOu1MefuGBpRBPyjjNFKo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Ctkb4NqMjVGMyL8QPMj/Z2EaXhl1g7tDCciS01BI3V6bd2j0pAqIRSX9UYnUPGj75R wFSfotjltjOohelPXPTwCLFuIfFolE6f7ySA5TdoHHi4rmN40WEmxjzXb3DB8OpPZzgV QL/Q9pkyJVyilD/wdm3qt9k6l04Fs7ljcCd/4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.108.232 with SMTP id g40mr2596451vcp.50.1253984527170; Sat, 26 Sep 2009 10:02:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4ABDEED1.5050306@cathemline.org> References: <4ABDEED1.5050306@cathemline.org> Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 19:02:07 +0200 Message-ID: From: Valentin Villenave To: Martial Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) Cc: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Subject: Re: Croches Par Deux X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 17:02:13 -0000 2009/9/26 Martial : > 1) Les croches ne sont plus li=C3=A9 2/2 Je crois que c'est fait expr=C3=A8s. Mais si tu as un exemple qui fait vraiment moche je posterai un rapport de bug :) > 2) #(override-auto-beam-setting ... n'est plus support=C3=A9 > > du coup la syntaxe est la suivante : > > %%-------------------------------------- > CrochesParDeux =3D { > %\overrideBeamSettings =C2=A0#'Score #'(2 . 4) #'end #'((* . ( 1 1))) > \overrideBeamSettings =C2=A0#'Score #'(3 . 4) #'end #'((* . ( 1 1 1))) > \overrideBeamSettings =C2=A0#'Score #'(4 . 4) #'end #'((* . ( 1 1 1 1))) > } J'utilise un syst=C3=A8me diff=C3=A9rent (j'ai peut-=C3=AAtre tort) : #(define my-auto-beam-settings (append default-beam-settings `( ((end * * 3 4) . ,(ly:make-moment 1 4)) ((end * * 3 4) . ,(ly:make-moment 1 2)) ((end * * 4 4) . ,(ly:make-moment 1 4)) ((end * * 4 4) . ,(ly:make-moment 3 4)) ((end * * 2 2) . ,(ly:make-moment 1 4)) ((end * * 2 2) . ,(ly:make-moment 1 2)) ((end * * 2 2) . ,(ly:make-moment 3 4)) ((end * * 2 8) . ,(ly:make-moment 1 4)) ((be * * 5 8) . ,(ly:make-moment 1 8)) ((end * * 5 8) . ,(ly:make-moment 5 8)) ))) \layout { \context { \Score autoBeamSettings =3D #my-auto-beam-settings } } Cordialement, Valentin From MAILER-DAEMON Sat Sep 26 13:52:52 2009 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1MrbS0-0008QZ-Kt for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Sep 2009 13:52:52 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MrbRz-0008PN-Cm for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Sep 2009 13:52:51 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MrbRu-0008NQ-LN for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Sep 2009 13:52:51 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=51035 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MrbRu-0008NN-IH for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Sep 2009 13:52:46 -0400 Received: from smtp20.orange.fr ([80.12.242.27]:57198) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MrbRu-0004r1-04 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Sep 2009 13:52:46 -0400 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2011.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id D596F20000AC; Sat, 26 Sep 2009 19:52:44 +0200 (CEST) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2011.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id C8BFC20000B2; Sat, 26 Sep 2009 19:52:44 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.102] (ALagny-153-1-49-136.w86-218.abo.wanadoo.fr [86.218.24.136]) by mwinf2011.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 85C9120000AC; Sat, 26 Sep 2009 19:52:44 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20090926175244548.85C9120000AC@mwinf2011.orange.fr Message-ID: <4ABE54D5.1070700@cathemline.org> Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 19:52:21 +0200 From: Martial User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Valentin Villenave References: <4ABDEED1.5050306@cathemline.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. Cc: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Subject: Re: Croches Par Deux X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 17:52:51 -0000 b'soir >> 1) Les croches ne sont plus group=C3=A9es 2/2 > Je crois que c'est fait expr=C3=A8s. Mais si tu as un exemple qui fait > vraiment moche je posterai un rapport de bug :) non c'est comme avant la version 2.13.. il me semble. en 2/4 group=C3=A9es 2 par 2 en 3/4 group=C3=A9es par 6 (toutes group=C3=A9es dans la mesure) en 4/4 group=C3=A9es 4 par 4 C'est juste que pour chanter on est habitu=C3=A9 en 2/2 =C3=A7a colle mieux en g=C3=A9n=C3=A9ral sous les mots. (Il y a des partition vocales o=C3=B9 aucune croches ne sont group=C3=A9e= s.) Et que la syntaxe =C3=A0 chang=C3=A9. > J'utilise un syst=C3=A8me diff=C3=A9rent (j'ai peut-=C3=AAtre tort) : C'est sioux mais sauf si je n'ai pas compris ou fait un mauvais test, je ne vois pas=20 de changement par rapport au 'beaming' par d=C3=A9faut. Cordialement --=20 Martial From MAILER-DAEMON Sat Sep 26 17:15:43 2009 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1MrecJ-0003Pv-M5 for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Sep 2009 17:15:43 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MrecH-0003Pq-Pn for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Sep 2009 17:15:41 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MrecC-0003Pe-Ep for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Sep 2009 17:15:40 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=32815 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MrecC-0003Pb-8o for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Sep 2009 17:15:36 -0400 Received: from mail-vw0-f187.google.com ([209.85.212.187]:56762) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MrecC-0007rP-1k for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Sep 2009 17:15:36 -0400 Received: by vws17 with SMTP id 17so1755892vws.24 for ; Sat, 26 Sep 2009 14:15:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=fpB64AVsjc2x1BtJbwTKiw9wAmA9FnMu7K0v+gNRa7g=; b=dMaRxnZm6wGQEuVANBbYbDf0eM2kXjFUOxHFeOcCS7BzIW6Hos+sj1QHcc3cZxNoAK h5gACdB3u/LZ/uoFus/Qb0zuzEKRa6kqyeCdXW2TwFdzGZ+iRh/hsDJi6j8qgy+/gkpe FoFd6GIJiDQ05TkVnUNfMiEWEFywGPcZgW2yc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Tvs6BYZCU+YG4wWnHLwq8Fd3KAv3sN4JKZ4TL94Y8hlpKpQPW2hOOVvfyme8nAEwd3 C3p5r/6f04RIrj6X8e7YXFUaAS/9eaitOCV37yYFt0WuZuSVSUAxt5fVJHu+124WaPWp qEgqYtvwlbZyy09Vu456iIXN3+dwU6Bka+Yew= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.116.137 with SMTP id m9mr2936590vcq.65.1253999735615; Sat, 26 Sep 2009 14:15:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4ABE54D5.1070700@cathemline.org> References: <4ABDEED1.5050306@cathemline.org> <4ABE54D5.1070700@cathemline.org> Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 23:15:35 +0200 Message-ID: From: Valentin Villenave To: Martial Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) Cc: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Subject: Re: Croches Par Deux X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 21:15:41 -0000 2009/9/26 Martial : > C'est sioux > mais sauf si je n'ai pas compris ou fait un mauvais test, je ne vois pas = de > changement par rapport au 'beaming' par d=C3=A9faut. Arf. Si =C3=A7a se trouve =C3=A7a ne marche plus avec le nouveau code... (pfff, va encore falloir que je d=C3=A9bugge mon op=C3=A9ra, =C3=A7a me goo= nfle...) Valentin From MAILER-DAEMON Sat Sep 26 17:39:12 2009 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1Mrez2-0007sX-BG for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Sep 2009 17:39:12 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MrHdJ-0002Wh-Jp for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Sep 2009 16:43:13 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MrHdH-0002U9-UU for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Sep 2009 16:43:13 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=39423 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MrHdH-0002Tk-Mf for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Sep 2009 16:43:11 -0400 Received: from ey-out-1920.google.com ([74.125.78.146]:46745) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MrHdG-0004ad-S0 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Sep 2009 16:43:11 -0400 Received: by ey-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 3so1225166eyh.34 for ; Fri, 25 Sep 2009 13:43:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=/PqBI41+9eqO/I7CSeyokL0pr9YT55WhaN2/Lxd33Xk=; b=X7u8aOwjWVVyWPu1ZWx9OXGBdLi+YID2REzLunMFHiZ8EsflreRVeA+10X663irj5n 17r5w4xkItOoDPrc8qlXJ5eqE1sAP+LePyc58TLalnP5aSs8qV3mt52gf+zW1orvP3Z+ 1JKs7I8DDGI/w+SQs3E9JxOtPn3Z+lydVyT48= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=LNxJgU4XfWGRHSHjUv4sPq0a2BQi3d6AI4iQkjkXEHCMXkoRI92DT+8L+cy/4gGmML JKs4TE3qfME69MIjrRWLI9+RPQ831zRycXhVVzdXTinfUZx6C0Td5N5VM+Ogo+r4yBoP VjXlccIsTT+gqqq2tYO88NxGYc+s8sCttRm5w= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.211.130.6 with SMTP id h6mr636005ebn.97.1253911389322; Fri, 25 Sep 2009 13:43:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <7E32C5C0-71E3-4B5F-A582-B429A60F0D79@gmail.com> References: <222d64690909151359o75f31179we8b667d016fd64e1@mail.gmail.com> <4AB020B9.2080607@gmail.com> <222d64690909160055n4e123d51g72e81dc2b9be1a10@mail.gmail.com> <4AB15A6A.2090903@gmail.com> <222d64690909171356k54b82c30k591aedcce416ff68@mail.gmail.com> <4AB2B28B.5040404@gmail.com> <18B89BC0-D97E-4333-851B-288B357E792C@wanadoo.fr> <7E32C5C0-71E3-4B5F-A582-B429A60F0D79@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 22:43:09 +0200 Message-ID: <222d64690909251343m67fd62bcl537f44b110df311d@mail.gmail.com> From: Philippe Labat To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=C9douard_Gilbert?= , Xavier Scheuer , Pascal Legris Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00504502cf98f0c14404746cfe87 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 17:39:10 -0400 Cc: lilypondeurs Subject: Re: Impossible lancer .jar dans jEdit + plugin Lilypond X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 20:43:14 -0000 --00504502cf98f0c14404746cfe87 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bonjour, Grand merci =E0 tous pour votre aide et disponibilit=E9, tout marche mainte= nant. Avec l'aide en ligne, j'ai fait ma premi=E8re partition (une composition personnelle pour piano jazz), et c'est superbe -- la partition, pour la musique on attendra le concert... Longue vie =E0 LilyPond et tous les lilypondeurs. Cordialement, Philippe Le 18 septembre 2009 13:20, =C9douard Gilbert a =E9crit : > Le 18 sept. 09 =E0 13:07, Pascal Legris a =E9crit : > > Bonjour, >> Comme je suis un vieil habitu=E9 du mac, je peu essayer de r=E9pondre au= x >> diverses questions relatives au mac. >> >> > Je n'aurais pas pu deviner, car "LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin" >>> >> >> en fait, MacOS cache un grand nombre de fichiers : les fichiers qui se >> terminent en ".app' et beaucoup d'autres ne sont pas des vrais fichiers = mais >> des dossiers. >> Pour naviguer dans le contenu, il faut faire un clic droit + "Afficher l= e >> contenu du paquet" ; on obtient une nouvelle fen=EAtre avec tous les fic= hiers. >> >> Puisque Mac OS X fait partie de la famille des syst=E8mes d'exploitatio= n >>> UNIX il doit comporter un terminal. Tu peux donc invoquer lilypond en l= igne >>> de commande. >>> >> >> C'est exact, mais le chemin d'acc=E8s vers lilypond n'est pas connu par = le >> syst=E8me. >> Pour utiliser la ligne de commande, utilisez le Terminal (dans >> Applications/Utilitaires) >> Pour le chemin d'acc=E8s, cela d=E9pend de l'interpr=E9teur de commande = utilis=E9. >> Je crois que par d=E9faut, c'est bash et la commande =E0 mettre au d=E9b= ut du >> terminal est : >> export PATH=3D/Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin:$PATH >> > > Plus simplement, on peut aussi appeler Lilypond avec le chemin d=92acc=E8= s > complet. > > Plut=F4t que de taper > > lilypond fichier.ly > > taper > > /Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin/lilypond fichier.ly > > Mieux encore, d=E9finir un alias pour lilypond avec la commande : > > alias lilypond=3D/Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin/lilypo= nd > > que l=92on peut =E9galement ajouter =E0 son .profile (ou son .aliases). > > Bien s=FBr, si l=92on ce sert d=92autres utilitaires que lilypond comme > lilypondbook ou un truc du genre, compl=E9ter le $PATH est aussi simple. > > et lilypond sera reconnu dans les commandes qui suivent. La commande peu= t >> =EAtre plac=E9e dans un fichier invisible .profile dans ton dossier util= isateur >> pour qu'on ait plus besoin de la taper. >> >> pour se d=E9placer dans le syst=E8me de fichiers la commande est cd "mon >> dossier" >> pour lister les fichiers dans le dossier courant, la commande est ls >> pour avoir le d=E9tail d'une commande, utiliser man "nom de la commande"= , >> par exemple : man ls >> Le monde de la ligne de commande est infini, mais il vaut mieux passer s= on >> permis avant... >> >> >> > Quand je lance LilyPond directement en cliquant sur son ic=F4ne, elle= se >>> > lance, m'ouvre un fichier test, qui me demande de s=E9lectionner la >>> > commande "Compile" dans le menu. Mais il n'y a pas de menu d=E9roulan= t >>> > associ=E9 au menu LilyPond qui appara=EEt =E0 c=F4t=E9 du menu Pomme = du Mac. >>> >> >> L=E0, c'est un gros bug dans une librairie qui n'a pas l'air d'=EAtre su= pport=E9 >> pour le Mac. C'est pas grave parce que Jedit fait tout beaucoup mieux. >> > > Je trouve jEdit assez insupportable sous Mac OS. Il ne s=92int=E8gre pas = du > tout dans mon environnement de travail. Je me dis encore qu=92un jour, je > tenterai de relancer le bundle LilyPond de TextMate, mais je laisse d=E9j= =E0 =E0 > l=92abandon ce que j=92avais entam=E9 pour XML, alors... > > > >> @+, >> Pascal >> >> >> Le 18 sept. 09 =E0 00:04, Xavier Scheuer a =E9crit : >> >> >>> Bonsoir, >>> >>> Pour les prochains mails que tu envoies via la liste de diffusion, essa= ie >>> de penser =E0 mettre lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org en copie (ou simplement >>> faire un "r=E9pondre =E0 tous"), comme =E7a les autres abonn=E9s de la = liste peuvent >>> =E9galement suivre la discussion et l'=E9volution de ton probl=E8me. >>> De plus, de cette mani=E8re, les messages seront consultables via les >>> archives de la liste et pourront peut-=EAtre =E0 l'avenir =EAtre utiles= dans le >>> cas ou quelqu'un se retrouverait confront=E9 au m=EAme probl=E8me. >>> >>> >>> Philippe Labat a =E9crit : >>> >>>> Bonsoir, >>>> Bingo, c'=E9tait "simplement =E7a". >>>> >>> > Je viens donc de voir les premi=E8res notes d'une gamme s'afficher da= ns > >>> la visualisation pdf de LilyPond, super! >>> >>> Ah, ben content que ton probl=E8me soit r=E9solu. Ce n'=E9tait pas si c= ompliqu=E9 >>> finalement. >>> >>> > Je n'aurais pas pu deviner, car "LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin" >>> > (sans le dernier "slash" d'ailleurs) n'appara=EEt pas comme un sous >>> > dossier de /Applications sur le Mac (myst=E8re). >>> > Il ne me reste plus qu'=E0 trouver comment j'arrive =E0 sauvegarder c= e pdf >>> > quelque part, mais je devrais y arriver avec la documentation en >>> > ligne. >>> >>> Normalement ce pdf se trouve dans le m=EAme r=E9pertoire, l=E0 o=F9 tu = as >>> sauvegard=E9 ton fichier .ly. >>> >>> Puisque Mac OS X fait partie de la famille des syst=E8mes d'exploitatio= n >>> UNIX il doit comporter un terminal. Tu peux donc invoquer lilypond en l= igne >>> de commande. Ainsi via l'option --output=3DFILE (ou, plus court -o FILE= ) tu >>> peux d=E9finir le nom et l'emplacement du fichier de sortie (pdf). Ains= i la >>> commande >>> >>> lilypond -o /dossier1/dossier2/nomchoisi nomfichier.ly >>> >>> te donnera un fichier nomchoisi.pdf dans /dossier1/dossier2 >>> >>> C'est dans la documentation (en anglais) ici : >>> http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/user/lilypond-program/Comma= nd_002dline-usage >>> >>> Cela dit, le plus simple pour quelqu'un qui d=E9bute est peut-=EAtre de= tout >>> faire via jEdit/LilyPondTool et de renommer/d=E9placer le pdf par apr= =E8s, via >>> ton gestionnaire de fichier. >>> >>> > Encore merci pour ton support, >>> De rien, ce fut un plaisir. >>> >>> > cordialement, >>> > Philippe >>> De m=EAme, >>> Xavier >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> liste de diffusion lilypond-user-fr >>> lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org >>> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user-fr >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> liste de diffusion lilypond-user-fr >> lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org >> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user-fr >> > > =C9douard GILBERT > edouard.gilbert@gmail.com > > > > > > --00504502cf98f0c14404746cfe87 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bonjour,

Grand merci =E0 tous pour votre aide et disponibilit=E9, tout marche maintenant.

Avec l'aide en ligne, j'ai fait ma premi=E8re pa= rtition (une composition personnelle pour piano jazz), et c'est superbe -- la partition, pour la musique on attendra le concert...

Longue vie =E0 LilyPond et tous les lilypondeurs.

Cordialement,
Philippe

Le 18 septembre 2009 13:20, =C9d= ouard Gilbert <edouard.gilbert@gmail.com> a =E9crit :
Le 18 sept. 09 =E0 13:07, Pascal Legris a =E9crit :


Bonjour,
Comme je suis un vieil habitu=E9 du mac, je peu essayer de r=E9pondre aux d= iverses questions relatives au mac.

> Je n'aurais pas pu deviner, car "LilyPond.app/Contents/Resour= ces/bin"

en fait, MacOS cache un grand nombre de fichiers : les fichiers qui se term= inent en ".app' et beaucoup d'autres ne sont pas des vrais fic= hiers mais des dossiers.
Pour naviguer dans le contenu, il faut faire un clic droit + "Afficher= le contenu du paquet" ; on obtient une nouvelle fen=EAtre avec tous l= es fichiers.

Puisque Mac OS X fait partie de la famille des syst=E8mes d'exploitatio= n UNIX il doit comporter un terminal. Tu peux donc invoquer lilypond en lig= ne de commande.

C'est exact, mais le chemin d'acc=E8s vers lilypond n'est pas c= onnu par le syst=E8me.
Pour utiliser la ligne de commande, utilisez le Terminal (dans Applications= /Utilitaires)
Pour le chemin d'acc=E8s, cela d=E9pend de l'interpr=E9teur de comm= ande utilis=E9. Je crois que par d=E9faut, c'est bash et la commande = =E0 mettre au d=E9but du terminal est :
export PATH=3D/Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin:$PATH

Plus simplement, on peut aussi appeler Lilypond avec le chemin d=92acc=E8s = complet.

Plut=F4t que de taper

lilypond fichier.ly

taper

/Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin/lilypond fichier.ly

Mieux encore, d=E9finir un alias pour lilypond avec la commande :

alias lilypond=3D/Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin/lilypond=

que l=92on peut =E9galement ajouter =E0 son .profile (ou son .aliases).

Bien s=FBr, si l=92on ce sert d=92autres utilitaires que lilypond comme lil= ypondbook ou un truc du genre, compl=E9ter le $PATH est aussi simple.


et lilypond sera reconnu dans les commandes qui suivent. La commande peut = =EAtre plac=E9e dans un fichier invisible .profile dans ton dossier utilisa= teur pour qu'on ait plus besoin de la taper.

pour se d=E9placer dans le syst=E8me de fichiers la commande est cd "m= on dossier"
pour lister les fichiers dans le dossier courant, la commande est ls
pour avoir le d=E9tail d'une commande, utiliser man "nom de la com= mande" , par exemple : man ls
Le monde de la ligne de commande est infini, mais il vaut mieux passer son = permis avant...


> Quand je lance LilyPond directement en cliquant sur son ic=F4ne, elle = se
> lance, m'ouvre un fichier test, qui me demande de =A0s=E9lectionne= r la
> commande "Compile" dans le menu. Mais il n'y a pas de me= nu d=E9roulant
> associ=E9 au menu LilyPond qui appara=EEt =E0 c=F4t=E9 du menu Pomme d= u Mac.

L=E0, c'est un gros bug dans une librairie qui n'a pas l'air d&= #39;=EAtre support=E9 pour le Mac. C'est pas grave parce que Jedit fait= tout beaucoup mieux.

Je trouve jEdit assez insupportable sous Mac OS. Il ne s=92int=E8gre pas du= tout dans mon environnement de travail. Je me dis encore qu=92un jour, je = tenterai de relancer le bundle LilyPond de TextMate, mais je laisse d=E9j= =E0 =E0 l=92abandon ce que j=92avais entam=E9 pour XML, alors...



@+,
Pascal


Le 18 sept. 09 =E0 00:04, Xavier Scheuer a =E9crit :


Bonsoir,

Pour les prochains mails que tu envoies via la liste de diffusion, essaie d= e penser =E0 mettre lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org en copie (ou simplement faire un "= r=E9pondre =E0 tous"), comme =E7a les autres abonn=E9s de la liste peu= vent =E9galement suivre la discussion et l'=E9volution de ton probl=E8m= e.
De plus, de cette mani=E8re, les messages seront consultables via les archi= ves de la liste et pourront peut-=EAtre =E0 l'avenir =EAtre utiles dans= le cas ou quelqu'un se retrouverait confront=E9 au m=EAme probl=E8me.<= br>

Philippe Labat a =E9crit :
Bonsoir,
Bingo, c'=E9tait "simplement =E7a".
> Je viens donc de voir les premi=E8res notes d'une gamme s'affi= cher dans > la visualisation pdf de LilyPond, super!

Ah, ben content que ton probl=E8me soit r=E9solu. Ce n'=E9tait pas si c= ompliqu=E9 finalement.

> Je n'aurais pas pu deviner, car "LilyPond.app/Contents/Resour= ces/bin"
> (sans le dernier "slash" d'ailleurs) n'appara=EEt pa= s comme un sous
> dossier de /Applications sur le Mac (myst=E8re).
> Il ne me reste plus qu'=E0 trouver comment j'arrive =E0 sauveg= arder ce pdf
> quelque part, mais je devrais y arriver avec la documentation en
> ligne.

Normalement ce pdf se trouve dans le m=EAme r=E9pertoire, l=E0 o=F9 tu as s= auvegard=E9 ton fichier .ly.

Puisque Mac OS X fait partie de la famille des syst=E8mes d'exploitatio= n UNIX il doit comporter un terminal. Tu peux donc invoquer lilypond en lig= ne de commande. Ainsi via l'option --output=3DFILE (ou, plus court -o F= ILE) tu peux d=E9finir le nom et l'emplacement du fichier de sortie (pd= f). Ainsi la commande

lilypond -o /dossier1/dossier2/nomchoisi nomfichier.ly

te donnera un fichier nomchoisi.pdf dans /dossier1/dossier2

C'est dans la documentation (en anglais) ici : http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/user/lilypo= nd-program/Command_002dline-usage

Cela dit, le plus simple pour quelqu'un qui d=E9bute est peut-=EAtre de= tout faire via jEdit/LilyPondTool et de renommer/d=E9placer le pdf par apr= =E8s, via ton gestionnaire de fichier.

> Encore merci pour ton support,
De rien, ce fut un plaisir.

> cordialement,
> Philippe
De m=EAme,
Xavier


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--00504502cf98f0c14404746cfe87-- From MAILER-DAEMON Sat Sep 26 17:59:54 2009 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1MrfJ4-0008PD-Fh for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Sep 2009 17:59:54 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MrfJ2-0008P4-Rj for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Sep 2009 17:59:52 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MrfIy-0008ND-3r for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Sep 2009 17:59:52 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=41802 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MrfIx-0008N6-RX for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Sep 2009 17:59:47 -0400 Received: from smtp1-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.1]:50057) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MrfIw-0005Er-U4 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Sep 2009 17:59:47 -0400 Received: from smtp1-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp1-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CCE99400A6 for ; Sat, 26 Sep 2009 23:59:37 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [88.184.126.48] (gan34-1-88-184-126-48.fbx.proxad.net [88.184.126.48]) by smtp1-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E608940069 for ; Sat, 26 Sep 2009 23:59:35 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4ABE8F06.7040402@free.fr> Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 00:00:38 +0200 From: Philippe Hezaine User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090921) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lilypond-fr References: <4ABB830B.3010802@free.fr> In-Reply-To: <4ABB830B.3010802@free.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Subject: Re: Le nouveau Puzzle du Batteur: =?utf-8?b?McOocmUgw6lkaXRpb24u?= X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 21:59:53 -0000 Philippe Hezaine a =C3=A9crit : >=20 > Ayez du bonheur. >=20 Tu parles. J'esp=C3=A8re que vous aurez plus de bonheur avec cette version corrig=C3= =A9e des sources. En effet des erreurs m'ont =C3=A9chapp=C3=A9 dans l'=C3=A9dition= des PATH. Ne craignez pas de hurler =C3=A0 l'imposture si =C3=A7a ne marche toujour= s pas. Je pr=C3=A9f=C3=A8re =C3=A7a =C3=A0 un no man's land. Donc, 2 jours apr=C3=A8s, voici la version corrig=C3=A9e des sources: http://philippe.hezaine.free.fr/spip.php?article46 Ayez enfin du bonheur malgr=C3=A9 cette laborieuse installation. P.S. J'ai essay=C3=A9 un script bash mais je ne comprends pas pourquoi le= s /*/* ne sont pas reconnus dans cette commande: #!/bin/bash export DRUMMER_S_GIGSAW=3D/home/badaboum/tchack # en une seule ligne perl -pi -e 's#/MONCHEMINVERS#$ENV{DRUMMER_S_GIGSAW}#g' /Drummer-s-Gigsaw/*/* Si quelqu'un peut m'=C3=A9clairer =C3=A7a serait sympa. --=20 Phil. 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(98.52-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [81.242.52.98]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 10sm1421069eyz.26.2009.09.26.15.08.40 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 26 Sep 2009 15:08:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4ABE90E7.7090108@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 00:08:39 +0200 From: Xavier Scheuer User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Martial , Valentin Villenave References: <4ABDEED1.5050306@cathemline.org> In-Reply-To: <4ABDEED1.5050306@cathemline.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) Cc: lilypondeurs Subject: Re: Croches Par Deux X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 22:08:49 -0000 Martial a écrit : > Bonjour > nouvelle version 2.13.4 > Il semble que : > 1) Les croches ne sont plus lié 2/2 Oui, c'est mieux non ? En 4/4 il est plutôt d'usage de les ligaturer par 4. C'était le cas dans les version précédentes (2.10 et 2.11 notamment), j'avais lu que ces règles allaient être redéfinies et j'attendais cette version pour recompiler certaines de mes partitions. :-) > 2) #(override-auto-beam-setting ... n'est plus supporté Il m'avait fallu un certain temps pour bien comprendre le fonctionnement de ces règles de ligatures. J'espère qu'il m'en faudra moins pour m'habituer à cette nouvelle syntaxe ! ;-) En tout cas (à première vue) ça a l'air plus « puissant », permettant des réglages plus fins. La doc semble également à jour (et plus cassée), un grand merci aux contributeurs. Valentin Villenave a écrit : > Arf. Si ça se trouve ça ne marche plus avec le nouveau code... Oui, il me semble aussi que le code que tu as donné correspond aux anciennes règles. Je ne l'ai pas testé cependant. > (pfff, va encore falloir que je débugge mon opéra, ça me goonfle...) Il doit y avoir une règle convert-ly je suppose. Et puis il est pas buggé ton opéra, j'aime beaucoup le rendu des partitions. J'ai aussi jeté un coup d'œil au code (merci le Libre) pour m'inspirer de la structure, etc. il y a juste les parties en Scheme où j'ai plus de mal. Merci Valentin. Sincèrement, Xavier From MAILER-DAEMON Sat Sep 26 19:35:01 2009 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1Mrgn7-0001HS-Mu for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Sep 2009 19:35:01 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mrgn5-0001Ew-9W for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Sep 2009 19:34:59 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mrgn0-0001BW-Tq for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Sep 2009 19:34:59 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=54719 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Mrgn0-0001BT-Np for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Sep 2009 19:34:54 -0400 Received: from mail-vw0-f187.google.com ([209.85.212.187]:62222) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Mrgn0-00080y-DM for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Sep 2009 19:34:54 -0400 Received: by vws17 with SMTP id 17so1797077vws.24 for ; Sat, 26 Sep 2009 16:34:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=3iETV3hr5gejVmVJWYJPnjl63TDP7Qlu88lnsaRmWgM=; b=DxGsUy0vSXuOHWpbC0QEm5HCdEV+JcsIKMChmuajisOuUYAxaGxntjUY8z1mprUxDD 9H7wrWJko2l9+9yavGNqQYJYSKmfkPeZj5pkgonumCW1zF9pVBbbPvwlvGsVtyRDhCTA zYDwssyNMnZuUd657ncJ7JJxuyU5TZ6vLJUxs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=lOXvjPMTnnjdRk0hcA5Yp8KAGtpqgXLqb6/6nCuEK5wv2vzr9T0WF7aZtgnqrPfcWB vTZCUuNWF0G3svdXMfQUGIjeSPl1wtyhppY/3FPDDf4k78fNpkQEzMf/gSOHqHVNea3L wxfMtP8d/IeZ7ziliSf6J8r+PQdbJcOQYBF5o= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.88.6 with SMTP id y6mr3151404vcl.23.1254008093012; Sat, 26 Sep 2009 16:34:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4ABE90E7.7090108@gmail.com> References: <4ABDEED1.5050306@cathemline.org> <4ABE90E7.7090108@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 01:34:52 +0200 Message-ID: From: Valentin Villenave To: Xavier Scheuer Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) Cc: lilypondeurs Subject: Re: Croches Par Deux X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 23:34:59 -0000 2009/9/27 Xavier Scheuer : > Et puis il est pas bugg=C3=A9 ton op=C3=A9ra, j'aime beaucoup le rendu de= s > partitions. J'ai aussi jet=C3=A9 un coup d'=C5=93il au code (merci le Lib= re) pour > m'inspirer de la structure, etc. il y a juste les parties en Scheme o=C3= =B9 > j'ai plus de mal. [off-topic] Mon code est un v=C3=A9ritable d=C3=A9potoir =C3=A0 comparer de celui de Ni= colas : http://repo.or.cz/w/nenuvar.git et -- quoique dans une moindre mesure -- de celui de Reinhold : http://repo.or.cz/w/orchestrallily.git D'un point de vue personnel, je suis absolument ravi d'avoir pass=C3=A9 des mois =C3=A0 r=C3=A9inventer la roue =C3=A0 ma fa=C3=A7on, mais ce n'est cer= tes pas un mod=C3=A8le ! De plus (comme dans le cas de EasyLilyPond) je n'ai pas maintenu mon code de fa=C3=A7on d=C3=A9cente : cela demande une patience et une humilit= =C3=A9 dont je m'avoue incapable -- Nicolas Sceaux est tout simplement un saint :-) Cordialement, Valentin From MAILER-DAEMON Sun Sep 27 04:08:41 2009 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1MrooD-0003co-3a for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 04:08:41 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MrooB-0003bj-Jp for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 04:08:39 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mroo6-0003bV-RG for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 04:08:38 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=55429 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Mroo6-0003bS-Ku for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 04:08:34 -0400 Received: from smtp3-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.3]:57866) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Mroo5-0003hl-Pu for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 04:08:34 -0400 Received: from smtp3-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp3-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC8BF818103; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 10:08:28 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.9] (aqu33-3-82-226-195-151.fbx.proxad.net [82.226.195.151]) by smtp3-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBB6C8180B8; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 10:08:25 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: From: Nicolas Sceaux To: Valentin Villenave In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 10:08:25 +0200 References: <4ABDEED1.5050306@cathemline.org> <4ABE54D5.1070700@cathemline.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Cc: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Subject: Re: Croches Par Deux X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 08:08:39 -0000 Le 26 sept. 09 =E0 23:15, Valentin Villenave a =E9crit : > 2009/9/26 Martial : >> C'est sioux >> mais sauf si je n'ai pas compris ou fait un mauvais test, je ne =20 >> vois pas de >> changement par rapport au 'beaming' par d=E9faut. > > Arf. Si =E7a se trouve =E7a ne marche plus avec le nouveau code... Eh non, il ne marche plus avec 2.13.4. Les noms de variables ont chang=E9= (il n'y a plus le "auto" dedans), ainsi que le contenu (les donn=E9es = sont exprim=E9es diff=E9remment). > (pfff, va encore falloir que je d=E9bugge mon op=E9ra, =E7a me = goonfle...) Bienvenue au club. Cependant, les nouvelles valeur par d=E9faut me convienne mieux que les pr=E9c=E9dentes, donc la plupart du temps j'ai purement et simplement = retir=E9 des indications de beaming. From MAILER-DAEMON Sun Sep 27 05:30:40 2009 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1Mrq5Y-0003FJ-AQ for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 05:30:40 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mrq5W-0003FB-HC for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 05:30:38 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mrq5R-0003Ez-D1 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 05:30:37 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=42467 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Mrq5Q-0003Ew-N4 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 05:30:32 -0400 Received: from smtp3-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.3]:48354) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Mrq5P-0008S8-Ua for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 05:30:32 -0400 Received: from smtp3-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp3-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCB398180AC; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 11:30:27 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.9] (aqu33-3-82-226-195-151.fbx.proxad.net [82.226.195.151]) by smtp3-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF3C28180E2; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 11:30:24 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: From: Nicolas Sceaux To: Martial In-Reply-To: <4ABE54D5.1070700@cathemline.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 11:30:24 +0200 References: <4ABDEED1.5050306@cathemline.org> <4ABE54D5.1070700@cathemline.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Cc: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Subject: Re: Croches Par Deux X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 09:30:39 -0000 Le 26 sept. 09 =E0 19:52, Martial a =E9crit : > b'soir > >>> 1) Les croches ne sont plus group=E9es 2/2 >> Je crois que c'est fait expr=E8s. Mais si tu as un exemple qui fait >> vraiment moche je posterai un rapport de bug :) > > non c'est comme avant la version 2.13.. il me semble. > en 2/4 group=E9es 2 par 2 > en 3/4 group=E9es par 6 (toutes group=E9es dans la mesure) > en 4/4 group=E9es 4 par 4 > > C'est juste que pour chanter on est habitu=E9 en 2/2 > =E7a colle mieux en g=E9n=E9ral sous les mots. > (Il y a des partition vocales o=F9 aucune croches ne sont group=E9es.) J'aurais dit l'inverse : "il y a des partitions vocales o=F9 les croches sont syst=E9matiquement group=E9es, mais que c'est vilain" :-) Pour changer le comportement en 4/4 de ligature des croches : \overrideBeamSettings #'Score #'(4 . 4) #'end #'(((1 . 8) . (2 2 2 =20= 2))) On peut aussi changer le param=E9trage par d=E9faut de fa=E7on globale, = mais =20 c'est un peu compliqu=E9 pour l'instant. nicolas From MAILER-DAEMON Sun Sep 27 08:34:20 2009 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1MrsxI-0003RJ-2E for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 08:34:20 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MrsxF-0003P0-J7 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 08:34:17 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MrsxA-0003LP-MQ for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 08:34:16 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=44086 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MrsxA-0003LG-9m for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 08:34:12 -0400 Received: from smtp27.orange.fr ([80.12.242.94]:13798) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Mrsx9-0002Ne-Sj for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 08:34:12 -0400 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2704.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id EFC2A20000A1; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 14:34:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2704.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id E293420000A6; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 14:34:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: from machine.maison (AMarseille-551-1-2-26.w80-9.abo.wanadoo.fr [80.9.73.26]) by mwinf2704.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 9338B20000A2; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 14:34:09 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20090927123409603.9338B20000A2@mwinf2704.orange.fr Message-ID: <4ABF5BC1.1000802@orange.fr> Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 14:34:09 +0200 From: Jean-Charles Malahieude User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.1) Gecko/20090814 Fedora/3.0-2.6.b3.fc11 Thunderbird/3.0b3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: frederic.bron@m4x.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. Cc: lilypondeurs , frogs@lilynet.net Subject: Re: [frogs] Frogs documentation task X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 12:34:17 -0000 Le 27/09/2009 13:23, Fr=C3=A9d=C3=A9ric Bron disait : > >> Thanks, pushed. > > Just a doubt: is there something to do for the translations? > > Fr=C3=A9d=C3=A9ric > Not for the French part; vocal.itely in French will be completely=20 reworked once I've completed NR1 and redistributed the material=20 according to Graham's movings. Unless I get some help with my translating process... Je me sens de plus = en plus comme Lucky Luke... @+ Jean-Charles From MAILER-DAEMON Sun Sep 27 11:24:30 2009 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1Mrvby-0004Hj-Nq for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 11:24:30 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mrvbx-0004He-I5 for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 11:24:29 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mrvbs-0004HL-3I for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 11:24:28 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=44963 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Mrvbr-0004HI-Se for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 11:24:23 -0400 Received: from smtp20.orange.fr ([80.12.242.26]:59469) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Mrvbr-0004FT-JN for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 11:24:23 -0400 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2014.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 83211200009F; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 17:24:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2014.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 70A9820000AD; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 17:24:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.102] (ALagny-153-1-49-136.w86-218.abo.wanadoo.fr [86.218.24.136]) by mwinf2014.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 12BB8200009F; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 17:24:21 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20090927152421768.12BB8200009F@mwinf2014.orange.fr Message-ID: <4ABF83A4.1070104@cathemline.org> Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 17:24:20 +0200 From: Martial User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nicolas Sceaux References: <4ABDEED1.5050306@cathemline.org> <4ABE54D5.1070700@cathemline.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. Cc: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org Subject: Re: Croches Par Deux X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 15:24:29 -0000 > J'aurais dit l'inverse : "il y a des partitions vocales o=F9 les croche= s > sont syst=E9matiquement group=E9es, mais que c'est vilain" :-) oui c'est plut=F4t =E7a ! > Pour changer le comportement en 4/4 de ligature des croches : > \overrideBeamSettings #'Score #'(4 . 4) #'end #'(((1 . 8) . (2 2 2 2)= )) ha ben ceci donnait un bon r=E9sultat \overrideBeamSettings #'Score #'(4 . 4) #'end #'((* . ( 1 1 1 1))) mais apr=E8s avoir lu en d=E9tail http://tinyurl.com/beam22 Donc pour ceux qui utilise cette 'macro' CrochesParDeux =3D { \overrideBeamSettings #'Score #'(3 . 4) #'end #'(((1 . 8) . ( 2 2 2))) \overrideBeamSettings #'Score #'(4 . 4) #'end #'(((1 . 8) . ( 2 2 2 2))) } > On peut aussi changer le param=E9trage par d=E9faut de fa=E7on globale,= mais=20 > c'est un peu compliqu=E9 pour l'instant. --=20 Martial From MAILER-DAEMON Wed Sep 30 18:16:29 2009 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1Mt7TJ-0001zb-AA for mharc-lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 18:16:29 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mt7TH-0001x9-Ao for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 18:16:27 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mt7TC-0001pR-BB for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 18:16:26 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=36542 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Mt7TB-0001p3-SQ for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 18:16:22 -0400 Received: from smtp1-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.1]:38962) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Mt7TA-0005bN-Dw for lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 18:16:21 -0400 Received: from smtp1-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp1-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 642669400BC for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 00:16:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [88.184.126.48] (gan34-1-88-184-126-48.fbx.proxad.net [88.184.126.48]) by smtp1-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73FDE940060 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 00:16:14 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4AC3D8F1.10007@free.fr> Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 00:17:21 +0200 From: Philippe Hezaine User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090921) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lilypond-fr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Subject: Le Puzzle du Batteur: =?utf-8?b?MsOobWUgw6lkaXRpb24=?= X-BeenThere: lilypond-user-fr@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond French-speaking list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 22:16:27 -0000 Le Puzzle du Batteur: 2=C3=A8me =C3=A9dition. Il y a vraiment un manque dans le monde du Libre pour trouver des rythmes de batterie d=C3=A9j=C3=A0 construits comme dans une bo=C3=AE= te =C3=A0 rythmes. Autant pour un d=C3=A9butant que pour un compositeur de chansons qui veut esquisser une pr=C3=A9-maquette d=E2=80=99arrangement, le constat est l=C3= =A0 : il n=E2=80=99y a pas de base de donn=C3=A9es libres vraiment cons=C3=A9quentes. Le projet "Le Puzzle du Batteur" vise =C3=A0 combler ce manque. En temps voulu, il y aura une version similaire pour un batteur r=C3=A9el= . C=E2=80=99est un projet =C3=A9dit=C3=A9 sous une license GPLv3. Quoi de neuf? - Vous devez ajouter une commande dans votre fichier /home/.vimrc Voir le LISEZ-MOI. - Il y a un INSTALL.sh script d=C3=A9sormais. J'esp=C3=A8re qu'il vous fa= cilitera l'installation du Puzzle. - Il n'y a plus d'accents dans les fichiers appel=C3=A9s. - Il y a un r=C3=A9pertoire en plus: DEBUG - J'ai ajout=C3=A9 2 scripts: 00-automate-Batterie-seule.vim 00-automate-Percussions-seules.vim et les mod=C3=A8les correspondants: Z-2-modele-Batterie-seule-22pistes.ly-0 Z-2-modele-Percussions-seules-26pistes.ly-0 Vous pourrez les utiliser =C3=A0 partir de MA-BASE/0-run-process. T=C3=A9l=C3=A9chargement: http://philippe.hezaine.free.fr/spip.php?article46 Jusqu'=C3=A0 maintenant je n'ai eu aucun retour d'exp=C3=A9rience. Je suppose que =C3=A7a ne marchait pas mais je pense en avoir trouv=C3=A9= la raison. Dites-moi si vous obtenez le MY-SONG+veloc dans MA-MASE. Feedback... feedback... feedback... telle une longue plainte dans le d=C3=A9sert. :=3D) Cordialement. --=20 Phil. Superbonus-Project (Site principal) Superbonus-Project (Plate-forme d'=C3=A9change):